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Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.03 23:22:00 - [1] - Quote How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the the assault rifle got nerfed by 5m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level? What would this do? 1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges 2 it will become a CQC monstrosity 3 it will be envoy to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be) My personal opinion- Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault. Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range" Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now. CEO of T-W-L Want to host an event? Click^
Immortal John Ripper 28	Posted - 2015.09.03 23:39:00 - [2] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the vanilla assault rifle got nerfed by 5m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level? What would this do? 1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges 2 it will become a CQC monstrosity 3 it will be envoy to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be) My personal opinion- Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault. Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range" Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now. Yes. Give the assault rifle a purpose again. > Permanently Banned
General John Ripper 28	Posted - 2015.09.03 23:39:00 - [3] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the vanilla assault rifle got nerfed by 5m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level? What would this do? 1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges 2 it will become a CQC monstrosity 3 it will be envoy to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be) My personal opinion- Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault. Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range" Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now. Yes. Give the assault rifle a purpose again. > Permanently Banned
Mahmun Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 19	Posted - 2015.09.03 23:57:00 - [4] - Quote So this time, instead of nerfing the rr down to the other rifles' levels, we're buffing the other rifles to match rr's inhumane power Chicken is good
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.09.03 23:59:00 - [5] - Quote No. It need just rang nerf. No damage buff. Weapon OP, need balance. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Dreis ShadowWeaver Abstract Requiem 6	Posted - 2015.09.04 00:08:00 - [6] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: No. It need just rang nerf. No damage buff. Weapon OP, need balance. You must be joking. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog CEO of Abstract Requiem
Mahmun Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 23	Posted - 2015.09.04 00:11:00 - [7] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: No. It need just rang nerf. No damage buff. Weapon OP, need balance. Have I missed something? Cuz the last time I checked AR wasn't OP Chicken is good
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.09.04 00:31:00 - [8] - Quote I know neutron stars that are less dense than people on these forums. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.09.04 00:36:00 - [9] - Quote Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun? I vote no. Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.04 00:38:00 - [10] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun? Not totally but to a certain point, isn't that what the assault rifle should be? And just to make it clear, adding so would make the pro assault rifle do kalante damage without the rof so.... I don't see it boing to much a problem. And the assault rifle is outclassed by like every other rifle at cqc so yeah it should be like so. The ar needs a cqc buff CEO of T-W-L Want to host an event? Click^
Void Echo Helix Evolution I.W.C 3	Posted - 2015.09.04 00:40:00 - [11] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Void Echo wrote: Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun? Not totally but to a certain point, isn't that what the assault rifle should be? And just to make it clear, adding so would make the pro assault rifle do kalante damage without the rof so.... I don't see it boing to much a problem. And the assault rifle is outclassed by like every other rifle at cqc so yeah it should be like so. The ar needs a cqc buff Just add 3 point of damage to the AR, there's no need to make it to where you need to be 5 feet away from the enemy to even hit him, that's what shotguns are for. The range on the AR is fine, there's no need to change it. Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.04 00:48:00 - [12] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Void Echo wrote: Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun? Not totally but to a certain point, isn't that what the assault rifle should be? And just to make it clear, adding so would make the pro assault rifle do kalante damage without the rof so.... I don't see it boing to much a problem. And the assault rifle is outclassed by like every other rifle at cqc so yeah it should be like so. The ar needs a cqc buff Just add 3 point of damage to the AR, there's no need to make it to where you need to be 5 feet away from the enemy to even hit him, that's what shotguns are for. The range on the AR is fine, there's no need to change it. I mean, that was my idea but i figured should users would start to complain and stuff so I just added that range nerf in there. Tbh the ar actually needs like 5m more and around 3 more damage per level to be a cqc King. CEO of T-W-L Want to host an event? Click^
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Nikushimi no Noroi 2	Posted - 2015.09.04 00:51:00 - [13] - Quote I would love for all rifles to receive a range nerf , I say this because of how unreliable hit detection is and the saturation of long range rifles , now most would oppose this but I would like to feel more like what I'm doing has more of a role instead of the fact that the poor performance has more of an influence over the outcomes of most gunfights . If you have to nerf HMG ranges then I'm for that too , might just help with the melee as well as the SG's not registering as well . 70 to 80 m is just too far to me and I could be in my optimal and still get out DPS's by a CR because my shots are not registering and most of the time I have to re-fire two sometimes three times before the damage registers . Could have something to do with distance ? I'm for anything that limits the shortcomings of this game having more of an influence then actual skill . Might just solve some problems as well but yes , I would love for the AR to be the CQC king that it's suppose to be . Maybe if all rifles had a range nerf and the AR received a slight buff relative to a certain distance , that could be possible and it could make for better gunfights . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Mad Kras 498	Posted - 2015.09.04 02:17:00 - [14] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. . Considering your kdr you don't have a strong point, just joking The range nerf will make the vanilla AR useless, I already prefer using the burst or the tactical version cuz of more range. You're basically asking for an AR with the optimal range of a HMG but with half of the DPS.. DCd again Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦n++ Gö+GöüGö+ Find your new home
Mahmun Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 28	Posted - 2015.09.04 02:24:00 - [15] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: I know neutron stars that are less dense than people on these forums. Your the one to speak, I wouldn't even try to insult a neutron star my comparing you to one Chicken is good
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.09.04 03:33:00 - [16] - Quote Mahmun wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: I know neutron stars that are less dense than people on these forums. Your the one to speak, I wouldn't even try to insult a neutron star my comparing you to one Does your recum ever get tired of having splinters? Does your underwear get sick of being bloodstained? Do your trapezius muscles ever get tired of being lopsided? Rhetorical questions, of course, of course, for you are as banal as a dead horse. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Mahmun Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 28	Posted - 2015.09.04 03:38:00 - [17] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Mahmun wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: I know neutron stars that are less dense than people on these forums. Your the one to speak, I wouldn't even try to insult a neutron star my comparing you to one Does your recum ever get tired of having splinters? Does your underwear get sick of being bloodstained? Do your trapezius muscles ever get tired of being lopsided? Rhetorical questions, of course, of course, for you are as banal as a dead horse. And you are a dead horse Chicken is good
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.09.04 03:43:00 - [18] - Quote C'mon. Stop being illiterate. I'm a Minotaur. And if you want me dead, 1v1 me, oh, what's the phrase... uh, u feggit? Yeah, that's it. ARs are off the table, of course, due to how overpowered they are. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Mahmun Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 30	Posted - 2015.09.04 03:45:00 - [19] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: C'mon. Stop being illiterate. I'm a Minotaur. And if you want me dead, 1v1 me, oh, what's the phrase... uh, u feggit? Yeah, that's it. ARs are off the table, of course, due to how overpowered they are. If you are so scared of me pulling out an AR then I wonder how hard you're gonna **** your pants when I pull out my double rrs on my calmando Chicken is good
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.09.04 03:48:00 - [20] - Quote Jokes on you: I poop my pants for sexual gratification. I win no matter what. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Mahmun Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 30	Posted - 2015.09.04 03:51:00 - [21] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Jokes on you: I poop my pants for sexual gratification. I win no matter what. I still made you **** your pants thats a win to me. Win-win scenario I'll take it. Chicken is good
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.09.04 04:00:00 - [22] - Quote Indeed. But if I film myself, I'll be able to sell the video to certain... Uh, German... film outlets. DUST also would get some notice from Germany. Me: 2 You: 1 DUST: 1 I still come out on top, if you catch muh drift. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ç¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Mahmun Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 30	Posted - 2015.09.04 04:04:00 - [23] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Indeed. But if I film myself, I'll be able to sell the video to certain... Uh, German... film outlets. DUST also would get some notice from Germany. Me: 2 You: 1 DUST: 1 I still come out on top, if you catch muh drift. hmm... suppose so, can't argue with the content in German film outlets Chicken is good
Jakkal Shoobah Eternal Beings Smart Deploy 224	Posted - 2015.09.04 04:20:00 - [24] - Quote I wanted to give some feedback but this thread is uh . . . What ? ?? Been using the ar since my first day.I would not be opposed to trying the change. I would like to see how it would affect it. If I'm not mistaken the last buffs the vanilla AR received were to base damage and rof a long long time ago While slow to anger and occasionally indecisive, they are also capable of harnessing enormous resolve when truly tested.
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.04 11:06:00 - [25] - Quote Bump CEO of T-W-L
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 973	Posted - 2015.09.04 12:00:00 - [26] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun? I vote no. It'd basically be a third shotgun option having slightly more range then the breach but less damge and to add on to that I dont see why Gal assault players dont use the breach more often if they want a CQC weapon that wrecks seriously mayhaps its because all these scrubs have no gun game at all click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 12	Posted - 2015.09.04 15:36:00 - [27] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Void Echo wrote: Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun? I vote no. It'd basically be a third shotgun option having slightly more range then the breach but less damge and to add on to that I dont see why Gal assault players dont use the breach more often if they want a CQC weapon that wrecks seriously mayhaps its because all these scrubs have no gun game at all I've been using the Vanilla AR for three years now. Familiarity with a weapon trumps a weapons overall performance for me in this case. Had I just started the game I'd probably go for the breach. Sgt Kirk's Propaganda Youtube Channel
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.04 21:00:00 - [28] - Quote Bump CEO of T-W-L
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3	Posted - 2015.09.04 21:15:00 - [29] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the vanilla assault rifle got nerfed by 5m-10m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level? What would this do? 1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges 2 it will become a CQC monstrosity 3 it will be encouraged to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be) My personal opinion- Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault. Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range" Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now. I agree with you even though im not a loyalist. My StormTrooper will not complain, giving up range or HP for damage is a reasonable sacrifice. I'd think that 10m nerf would be too much though. Still, what about the BreachAR? Its a monster in CQC & mid-range. The TAC is good for longer range. I'm wondering how the nerf-buff vanilla AR would compete with the Breach. Gallente Scout Rifleman, Matari Scout Masochist 599k to CA CK.0 Knives are the assassins tool
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.04 21:20:00 - [30] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the vanilla assault rifle got nerfed by 5m-10m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level? What would this do? 1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges 2 it will become a CQC monstrosity 3 it will be encouraged to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be) My personal opinion- Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault. Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range" Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now. I agree with you even though im not a loyalist. My StormTrooper will not complain, giving up range or HP for damage is a reasonable sacrifice. I'd think that 10m nerf would be too much though. Still, what about the BreachAR? Its a monster in CQC & mid-range. The TAC is good for longer range. I'm wondering how the nerf-buff vanilla AR would compete with the Breach. The other varients are ok imo I wreck with the breach but I like to use all my rifles and I really hate seeing how low performance my vanilla rifle gives in cqc. This post is for vanilla assault rifle only. CEO of T-W-L
SgtNoNeck Wasssup Ancient Exiles. 375	Posted - 2015.09.04 21:53:00 - [31] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the vanilla assault rifle got nerfed by 5m-10m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level? What would this do? 1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges 2 it will become a CQC monstrosity 3 it will be encouraged to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be) My personal opinion- Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault. Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range" Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now. Ok lets be honest guys the CR and the ACR suck to shield but are great to armor. the AR is great to shield variants are OP to shield like a scr. WHY buff the AR it does what its suppose to do just because it doesn't melt armor does not mean it needs a buff ffs. Also 2 to 4 damage points more per level would make it OP end of story.
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.04 22:01:00 - [32] - Quote Yes but tell me what can be done to make it the best at cqc? I mean, te other option could be to boost its rof from 800 to 900 so that it acts like the kalante and range can stay the same but no one else wants to give an idea or something. CEO of T-W-L
DaBOMB dotCOM 313	Posted - 2015.09.04 22:01:00 - [33] - Quote SgtNoNeck Wasssup wrote: Ok lets be honest guys the CR and the ACR suck to shield but are great to armor. the AR is great to shield variants are OP to shield like a scr. WHY buff the AR it does what its suppose to do just because it doesn't melt armor does not mean it needs a buff ffs. Also 2 to 4 damage points more per level would make it OP end of story. Hi NoNuts :) pâ+(n+ípâ+-ëpâ+n+í)
SgtNoNeck Wasssup Ancient Exiles. 376	Posted - 2015.09.04 22:15:00 - [34] - Quote DaBOMB dotCOM wrote: SgtNoNeck Wasssup wrote: Ok lets be honest guys the CR and the ACR suck to shield but are great to armor. the AR is great to shield variants are OP to shield like a scr. WHY buff the AR it does what its suppose to do just because it doesn't melt armor does not mean it needs a buff ffs. Also 2 to 4 damage points more per level would make it OP end of story. Hi NoNuts :) LOL hey Bomb LFS Scrub you know you want me to backpack you in pubs ;) <3
Regnier Feros Pielords 654	Posted - 2015.09.04 23:17:00 - [35] - Quote SgtNoNeck Wasssup wrote: DaBOMB dotCOM wrote: SgtNoNeck Wasssup wrote: Ok lets be honest guys the CR and the ACR suck to shield but are great to armor. the AR is great to shield variants are OP to shield like a scr. WHY buff the AR it does what its suppose to do just because it doesn't melt armor does not mean it needs a buff ffs. Also 2 to 4 damage points more per level would make it OP end of story. Hi NoNuts :) LOL hey Bomb LFS Scrub you know you want me. ;) <3 Woah! Dabomb is a 12 year old boy, odd are the fbi is coming to your place as I type this. ZariaOwnsWhips
Summa Militum Art.of.Death Smart Deploy 686	Posted - 2015.09.04 23:21:00 - [36] - Quote Increase damage only. Don't mess with the range and don't mess with the ROF.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.09.05 03:58:00 - [37] - Quote Mahmun wrote: So this time, instead of nerfing the rr down to the other rifles' levels, we're buffing the other rifles to match rr's inhumane power The Assault Rail Rifle deals the least DPS to its designed tank type than any other assault variant rifle does to its designed tank not to mention it probably has the most recoil.
Mahmun Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 37	Posted - 2015.09.05 05:22:00 - [38] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mahmun wrote: So this time, instead of nerfing the rr down to the other rifles' levels, we're buffing the other rifles to match rr's inhumane power The Assault Rail Rifle deals the least DPS to its designed tank type than any other assault variant rifle does to its designed tank not to mention it probably has the most recoil. Hmm... I was talking about the normal rr and besides this is a post about AR, but I'll go there if I have to. The arr deals less dps I'll give you that, but it has pretty good cqc performance especially considering the fact that it shreds armor. And that most ppl stack armor. Also, if you skill into proficiency and calmando or even just run proto dmg mods you can deal more base dmg than the normal rr. Chicken is good
Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 265	Posted - 2015.09.05 06:35:00 - [39] - Quote Mmm, I've always considered the idea of a range decrease. However, facing off against HMG users is always what makes me vote against that, even if the AR gets a damage boost. And if the AR WAS on par with the HMG, that itself would be a problem, considering a Light weapon can go toe to toe with a Heavy weapon. I would prefer that RoF over a flat damage increase though. I do feel like addressing the SUIT bonus is something we Gallente should be focusing more on though. Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.05 15:06:00 - [40] - Quote Bump CEO of T-W-L
Gydian Dubois Horizons' Edge No Context 346	Posted - 2015.09.05 16:00:00 - [41] - Quote I don't use AR. But when I had the Centurion, I modded it to use AR. The main AR does suck in CQC. Not what you would expect. The TacAR I like and the Breach as well, but that limited time using them, I have to agree the AR needs some sort of fix. Vacka De Fallna - - Awaken The Fallen
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.09.05 18:29:00 - [42] - Quote Mahmun wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mahmun wrote: So this time, instead of nerfing the rr down to the other rifles' levels, we're buffing the other rifles to match rr's inhumane power The Assault Rail Rifle deals the least DPS to its designed tank type than any other assault variant rifle does to its designed tank not to mention it probably has the most recoil. Hmm... I was talking about the normal rr and besides this is a post about AR, but I'll go there if I have to. The arr deals less dps I'll give you that, but it has pretty good cqc performance especially considering the fact that it shreds armor. And that most ppl stack armor. Also, if you skill into proficiency and calmando or even just run proto dmg mods you can deal more base dmg than the normal rr. The RR has less DPS than the ARR and the ACR (without prof.) has more damage vs. Armor than a prof. V ARR. In CQC the CR has both more DPS and better accuracy and a Minmatar commando with all damage mods and an ACR has more DPS than a Caldari commando with an ARR and all damage mods...
Mahmun Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 38	Posted - 2015.09.05 18:33:00 - [43] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mahmun wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mahmun wrote: So this time, instead of nerfing the rr down to the other rifles' levels, we're buffing the other rifles to match rr's inhumane power The Assault Rail Rifle deals the least DPS to its designed tank type than any other assault variant rifle does to its designed tank not to mention it probably has the most recoil. Hmm... I was talking about the normal rr and besides this is a post about AR, but I'll go there if I have to. The arr deals less dps I'll give you that, but it has pretty good cqc performance especially considering the fact that it shreds armor. And that most ppl stack armor. Also, if you skill into proficiency and calmando or even just run proto dmg mods you can deal more base dmg than the normal rr. The RR has less DPS than the ARR and the ACR (without prof.) has more damage vs. Armor than a prof. V ARR. In CQC the CR has both more DPS and better accuracy and a Minmatar commando with all damage mods and an ACR has more DPS than a Caldari commando with an ARR and all damage mods... I thought we were talking about comparing rr to AR how did we get into minmado and calmando? Chicken is good
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 1	Posted - 2015.09.05 19:00:00 - [44] - Quote Mahmun wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mahmun wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mahmun wrote: So this time, instead of nerfing the rr down to the other rifles' levels, we're buffing the other rifles to match rr's inhumane power The Assault Rail Rifle deals the least DPS to its designed tank type than any other assault variant rifle does to its designed tank not to mention it probably has the most recoil. Hmm... I was talking about the normal rr and besides this is a post about AR, but I'll go there if I have to. The arr deals less dps I'll give you that, but it has pretty good cqc performance especially considering the fact that it shreds armor. And that most ppl stack armor. Also, if you skill into proficiency and calmando or even just run proto dmg mods you can deal more base dmg than the normal rr. The RR has less DPS than the ARR and the ACR (without prof.) has more damage vs. Armor than a prof. V ARR. In CQC the CR has both more DPS and better accuracy and a Minmatar commando with all damage mods and an ACR has more DPS than a Caldari commando with an ARR and all damage mods... I thought we were talking about comparing rr to AR how did we get into minmado and calmando? O thought I made this post only for the assault rifle but apparently... CEO of T-W-L
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:40:00 - [45] - Quote Mahmun wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mahmun wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Mahmun wrote: So this time, instead of nerfing the rr down to the other rifles' levels, we're buffing the other rifles to match rr's inhumane power The Assault Rail Rifle deals the least DPS to its designed tank type than any other assault variant rifle does to its designed tank not to mention it probably has the most recoil. Hmm... I was talking about the normal rr and besides this is a post about AR, but I'll go there if I have to. The arr deals less dps I'll give you that, but it has pretty good cqc performance especially considering the fact that it shreds armor. And that most ppl stack armor. Also, if you skill into proficiency and calmando or even just run proto dmg mods you can deal more base dmg than the normal rr. The RR has less DPS than the ARR and the ACR (without prof.) has more damage vs. Armor than a prof. V ARR. In CQC the CR has both more DPS and better accuracy and a Minmatar commando with all damage mods and an ACR has more DPS than a Caldari commando with an ARR and all damage mods... I thought we were talking about comparing rr to AR how did we get into minmado and calmando? You were complaining that the RR was over performing (which it is IMHO not) so once you're convinced the RR and ARR are not over powered we can focus on AR balance because you seem convinced buffing the AR to RR levels would make it OP.

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