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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.09.03 23:22:00 -
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How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the the assault rifle got nerfed by 5m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level?
What would this do?
1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges
2 it will become a CQC monstrosity
3 it will be envoy to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be)
My personal opinion-
Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault.
Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range"
Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now.
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.09.03 23:39:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the vanilla assault rifle got nerfed by 5m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level?
What would this do?
1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges
2 it will become a CQC monstrosity
3 it will be envoy to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be)
My personal opinion-
Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault.
Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range"
Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now.
Yes. Give the assault rifle a purpose again.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.09.03 23:39:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the vanilla assault rifle got nerfed by 5m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level?
What would this do?
1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges
2 it will become a CQC monstrosity
3 it will be envoy to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be)
My personal opinion-
Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault.
Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range"
Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now.
Yes. Give the assault rifle a purpose again.
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Mahmun
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Posted - 2015.09.03 23:57:00 -
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So this time, instead of nerfing the rr down to the other rifles' levels, we're buffing the other rifles to match rr's inhumane power
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.09.03 23:59:00 -
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No. It need just rang nerf. No damage buff. Weapon OP, need balance.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.09.04 00:08:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:No. It need just rang nerf. No damage buff. Weapon OP, need balance.
You must be joking.
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Mahmun
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Posted - 2015.09.04 00:11:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:No. It need just rang nerf. No damage buff. Weapon OP, need balance.
Have I missed something? Cuz the last time I checked AR wasn't OP
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.09.04 00:31:00 -
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Void Echo
Helix Evolution I.W.C
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Posted - 2015.09.04 00:36:00 -
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Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun?
I vote no.
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.04 00:38:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun?
Not totally but to a certain point, isn't that what the assault rifle should be? And just to make it clear, adding so would make the pro assault rifle do kalante damage without the rof so.... I don't see it boing to much a problem. And the assault rifle is outclassed by like every other rifle at cqc so yeah it should be like so. The ar needs a cqc buff
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2015.09.04 00:40:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Void Echo wrote:Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun? Not totally but to a certain point, isn't that what the assault rifle should be? And just to make it clear, adding so would make the pro assault rifle do kalante damage without the rof so.... I don't see it boing to much a problem. And the assault rifle is outclassed by like every other rifle at cqc so yeah it should be like so. The ar needs a cqc buff
Just add 3 point of damage to the AR, there's no need to make it to where you need to be 5 feet away from the enemy to even hit him, that's what shotguns are for. The range on the AR is fine, there's no need to change it.
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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.09.04 00:48:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Void Echo wrote:Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun? Not totally but to a certain point, isn't that what the assault rifle should be? And just to make it clear, adding so would make the pro assault rifle do kalante damage without the rof so.... I don't see it boing to much a problem. And the assault rifle is outclassed by like every other rifle at cqc so yeah it should be like so. The ar needs a cqc buff Just add 3 point of damage to the AR, there's no need to make it to where you need to be 5 feet away from the enemy to even hit him, that's what shotguns are for. The range on the AR is fine, there's no need to change it.
I mean, that was my idea but i figured should users would start to complain and stuff so I just added that range nerf in there.
Tbh the ar actually needs like 5m more and around 3 more damage per level to be a cqc King.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.09.04 00:51:00 -
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I would love for all rifles to receive a range nerf , I say this because of how unreliable hit detection is and the saturation of long range rifles , now most would oppose this but I would like to feel more like what I'm doing has more of a role instead of the fact that the poor performance has more of an influence over the outcomes of most gunfights .
If you have to nerf HMG ranges then I'm for that too , might just help with the melee as well as the SG's not registering as well .
70 to 80 m is just too far to me and I could be in my optimal and still get out DPS's by a CR because my shots are not registering and most of the time I have to re-fire two sometimes three times before the damage registers .
Could have something to do with distance ?
I'm for anything that limits the shortcomings of this game having more of an influence then actual skill .
Might just solve some problems as well but yes , I would love for the AR to be the CQC king that it's suppose to be .
Maybe if all rifles had a range nerf and the AR received a slight buff relative to a certain distance , that could be possible and it could make for better gunfights .
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Mad Kras
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Posted - 2015.09.04 02:17:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:
Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. .
Considering your kdr you don't have a strong point, just joking 
The range nerf will make the vanilla AR useless, I already prefer using the burst or the tactical version cuz of more range.
You're basically asking for an AR with the optimal range of a HMG but with half of the DPS..
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Mahmun
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Posted - 2015.09.04 02:24:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I know neutron stars that are less dense than people on these forums.
Your the one to speak, I wouldn't even try to insult a neutron star my comparing you to one
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.09.04 03:33:00 -
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Mahmun wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:I know neutron stars that are less dense than people on these forums. Your the one to speak, I wouldn't even try to insult a neutron star my comparing you to one
Does your recum ever get tired of having splinters? Does your underwear get sick of being bloodstained? Do your trapezius muscles ever get tired of being lopsided?
Rhetorical questions, of course, of course, for you are as banal as a dead horse.
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Mahmun
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Posted - 2015.09.04 03:38:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Mahmun wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:I know neutron stars that are less dense than people on these forums. Your the one to speak, I wouldn't even try to insult a neutron star my comparing you to one Does your recum ever get tired of having splinters? Does your underwear get sick of being bloodstained? Do your trapezius muscles ever get tired of being lopsided? Rhetorical questions, of course, of course, for you are as banal as a dead horse.
And you are a dead horse
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.09.04 03:43:00 -
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C'mon.
Stop being illiterate. I'm a Minotaur. And if you want me dead, 1v1 me, oh, what's the phrase... uh, u feggit? Yeah, that's it.
ARs are off the table, of course, due to how overpowered they are.
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Posted - 2015.09.04 03:45:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:C'mon.
Stop being illiterate. I'm a Minotaur. And if you want me dead, 1v1 me, oh, what's the phrase... uh, u feggit? Yeah, that's it.
ARs are off the table, of course, due to how overpowered they are.
If you are so scared of me pulling out an AR then I wonder how hard you're gonna **** your pants when I pull out my double rrs on my calmando
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Posted - 2015.09.04 03:48:00 -
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Jokes on you: I poop my pants for sexual gratification.
I win no matter what.
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Posted - 2015.09.04 03:51:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Jokes on you: I poop my pants for sexual gratification.
I win no matter what.
I still made you **** your pants thats a win to me. Win-win scenario I'll take it.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.09.04 04:00:00 -
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Indeed. But if I film myself, I'll be able to sell the video to certain... Uh, German... film outlets. DUST also would get some notice from Germany.
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Mahmun
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Posted - 2015.09.04 04:04:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Indeed. But if I film myself, I'll be able to sell the video to certain... Uh, German... film outlets. DUST also would get some notice from Germany.
Me: 2
You: 1
DUST: 1
I still come out on top, if you catch muh drift.
hmm... suppose so, can't argue with the content in German film outlets
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Posted - 2015.09.04 04:20:00 -
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I wanted to give some feedback but this thread is uh . . . What ? ??
Been using the ar since my first day.I would not be opposed to trying the change. I would like to see how it would affect it. If I'm not mistaken the last buffs the vanilla AR received were to base damage and rof a long long time ago
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.04 11:06:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.09.04 12:00:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun?
I vote no.
It'd basically be a third shotgun option having slightly more range then the breach but less damge
and to add on to that I dont see why Gal assault players dont use the breach more often if they want a CQC weapon that wrecks seriously mayhaps its because all these scrubs have no gun game at all
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Posted - 2015.09.04 15:36:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Void Echo wrote:Wouldn't this turn it into a medium range shotgun?
I vote no. It'd basically be a third shotgun option having slightly more range then the breach but less damge and to add on to that I dont see why Gal assault players dont use the breach more often if they want a CQC weapon that wrecks seriously mayhaps its because all these scrubs have no gun game at all
I've been using the Vanilla AR for three years now.
Familiarity with a weapon trumps a weapons overall performance for me in this case.
Had I just started the game I'd probably go for the breach.
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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.09.04 21:00:00 -
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Posted - 2015.09.04 21:15:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the vanilla assault rifle got nerfed by 5m-10m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level?
What would this do?
1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges
2 it will become a CQC monstrosity
3 it will be encouraged to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be)
My personal opinion-
Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault.
Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range"
Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now.
I agree with you even though im not a loyalist. My StormTrooper will not complain, giving up range or HP for damage is a reasonable sacrifice. I'd think that 10m nerf would be too much though.
Still, what about the BreachAR? Its a monster in CQC & mid-range. The TAC is good for longer range. I'm wondering how the nerf-buff vanilla AR would compete with the Breach.
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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.09.04 21:20:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:How many of you Gallente loyalists would be ok if the vanilla assault rifle got nerfed by 5m-10m range but recieved a nice 2-4 damage points more per level?
What would this do?
1 it will make the assault rifle pretty much Suck at mid ranges
2 it will become a CQC monstrosity
3 it will be encouraged to be used with Gallente suits (tanky and fast like they should be)
My personal opinion-
Id be completely fine with this. I like cqc. It's my strong point. 1v1. And with my Gallente assault, what better combo could there be? It's the perfect Gallente assault.
Pro- op in CQC, will do a great job against armor and will be like eve blasters that "wreck in close range"
Cons- caldari suits will start to whine BUT they should know that we have less range now. I agree with you even though im not a loyalist. My StormTrooper will not complain, giving up range or HP for damage is a reasonable sacrifice. I'd think that 10m nerf would be too much though. Still, what about the BreachAR? Its a monster in CQC & mid-range. The TAC is good for longer range. I'm wondering how the nerf-buff vanilla AR would compete with the Breach.
The other varients are ok imo I wreck with the breach but I like to use all my rifles and I really hate seeing how low performance my vanilla rifle gives in cqc. This post is for vanilla assault rifle only.
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