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Union118 NON-Fatal Condemnation 658	Posted - 2015.08.16 08:12:00 - [1] - Quote It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1	Posted - 2015.08.16 09:03:00 - [2] - Quote +20 shield -20 armor What more do you want? It's already bad enough against armor. So is that heavy with his aiming "skills". The summer's here.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.08.16 09:11:00 - [3] - Quote Just forget about it. Rattati sees no problem in ScR. It's hard to tell him otherwise. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
xavier zor Abyss of Universe 2	Posted - 2015.08.16 09:25:00 - [4] - Quote Union118 wrote: It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. the combat rifle melts shield suits with stacked damage mods as well Zor's double ISK service
The KTM Duke 0uter.Heaven 559	Posted - 2015.08.16 09:30:00 - [5] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Union118 wrote: It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. the combat rifle melts shield suits with stacked damage mods as well Stacking dam modes is a your choice, isnt it? Selling voice bubbles 24/7
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 428	Posted - 2015.08.16 09:35:00 - [6] - Quote If it was nerfed what would be the purpose of using it? I already dont want to use it now cause of the heat buildup and my assault rail rifle outperforms it in almost every situation. On top of the it really only works on amarr commandos and amarr assaults. "Make America Great Again" Donald Trump 2016
Union118 NON-Fatal Condemnation 658	Posted - 2015.08.16 09:47:00 - [7] - Quote Idk all i see is scramblers on the kill feed most games. Idk how my caldari with stacked armor plates melts faster thank my shields. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 65	Posted - 2015.08.16 10:39:00 - [8] - Quote Union118 wrote: Idk all i see is scramblers on the kill feed most games. Idk how my caldari with stacked armor plates melts faster thank my shields. You mean you see Assault Scramblers mostly. The other thing there no any good balanced CQC rifle, how about GEK's? Ppl who r always moaning on forums about "FOTM" already made this game more unbalanced as it was post Uprising. I've skilled AR to almost perfect and even than i still prefer adv ASCR to pro AR for CQC, as its outperform it and even has scope. But you right, regardless from official stats, ASCR and SCR do better against shields and armor in comparison to AR. Wich should be actually vice versa. The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.08.16 10:44:00 - [9] - Quote Union118 wrote: It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. An SMG does more dps to armour than a scrambler rifle.
Count- -Crotchula 302	Posted - 2015.08.16 11:07:00 - [10] - Quote Union118 wrote: It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. yup 800damage in a second from some laggy brazillian player yesterday. I don't really use the SCR anymore, not without a CR combo anyway because it's just ridiculous how fast you die to that thing it's scrubby even using it on it's own.

Echo 1991 Corrosive Synergy No Context 923	Posted - 2015.08.16 11:16:00 - [11] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Union118 wrote: It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. An SMG does more dps to armour than a scrambler rifle. No it doesn't. It does nearly twice as much damage than an smg but only fires 250 rpm slower (not 100% on the fire rate but I'm sure it's close). Wanna play eve?
axis alpha Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 828	Posted - 2015.08.16 14:40:00 - [12] - Quote Maybe in an error with game and isn't doing correct damage for its profile. Or whatever. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
Raven-747 WarRavens Imperium Eden 159	Posted - 2015.08.16 16:31:00 - [13] - Quote The cause of all these problems is "Respec". Get rid of lag
Echo 1991 Corrosive Synergy No Context 923	Posted - 2015.08.16 16:55:00 - [14] - Quote Raven-747 wrote: The cause of all these problems is "Respec". when you can earn 600k+ skill points in a day, I don't see how the problem is being able to respec. Wanna play eve?
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1	Posted - 2015.08.16 17:02:00 - [15] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Raven-747 wrote: The cause of all these problems is "Respec". when you can earn 600k+ skill points in a day, I don't see how the problem is being able to respec. Mother of God! I get like 200k a week AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.08.16 17:08:00 - [16] - Quote Union118 wrote: It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. The only reason it has any strength against armor is because of everyone running around with a free damage mod on in the form of the warbarge cancelling out a large chunk of the -20. Players who have reached +7 or higher on the warbarge can throw 1 damage mod on and now be very close to a zero profile against armor. Sucks for you, we paid to win and it is working as intended. Go buy some more warbarge components so you can do the same to your combat rifle against shields and boom you will shred through Amarr assaults before they can even manage to take out half your armor. Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.08.16 17:14:00 - [17] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Raven-747 wrote: The cause of all these problems is "Respec". when you can earn 600k+ skill points in a day, I don't see how the problem is being able to respec. For the same amount of money as a respec you can easily clear 5 million SP in a week and possibly even reach 7 million. Respecs mean nothing when you can max out almost anything in a week. Back in early uprising you were pretty much maxed at 300k SP per week with boosters meaning if you went to only your core skills it would take roughly 25 weeks just to max your core skills. Obviously this depended on if you had passive boosters running as well. Under present conditions you can max your cores in 2 weeks no problem if you are willing to splash a little cash and grind. Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
SLENDER M4N Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 963	Posted - 2015.08.16 17:21:00 - [18] - Quote Union118 wrote: Idk all i see is scramblers on the kill feed most games. Idk how my caldari with stacked armor plates melts faster thank my shields. Eww an armor stacked caldari. Uwotm8?
Echo 1991 Corrosive Synergy No Context 924	Posted - 2015.08.16 17:22:00 - [19] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Raven-747 wrote: The cause of all these problems is "Respec". when you can earn 600k+ skill points in a day, I don't see how the problem is being able to respec. Mother of God! I get like 200k a week I get around the same, I used to have boosters on 24/7 but that was before silly SP cap and cash grab. Wanna play eve?
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 12	Posted - 2015.08.16 17:27:00 - [20] - Quote Union118 wrote: It too powerful. FTFY SLENDER M4N wrote: Eww an armor stacked caldari. What do you expect them to do? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)

2 NOITCEFREP YLOH Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2015.08.16 20:30:00 - [21] - Quote a darth can melt anything in a charge and a follow up shot.
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.08.17 03:36:00 - [22] - Quote 2 NOITCEFREP YLOH wrote: a darth can melt anything in a charge and a follow up shot. Like the agimus,or the Alex,or the kubo,or the ghalag........... Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.08.17 06:57:00 - [23] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: Union118 wrote: It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. An SMG does more dps to armour than a scrambler rifle. No it doesn't. It does nearly twice as much damage than an smg but only fires 250 rpm slower (not 100% on the fire rate but I'm sure it's close). Edit: rpm difference is 400 but it still deals more DPS. I ran the numbers. I am correct.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 901	Posted - 2015.08.17 07:01:00 - [24] - Quote Assault variant is OP. But the normal one isn't IMO. That heavy probably sucked too. And you know, it's normal that a proto assault ak.0 destroys a militia or basic heavy suit. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 506	Posted - 2015.08.17 08:52:00 - [25] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: Union118 wrote: It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. An SMG does more dps to armour than a scrambler rifle. No it doesn't. It does nearly twice as much damage than an smg but only fires 250 rpm slower (not 100% on the fire rate but I'm sure it's close). Edit: rpm difference is 400 but it still deals more DPS. I ran the numbers. I am correct. edit: Scramber rifle: Damage 65 7 shots a second average (generous) dps = 657 = 455 dps vs armour = 455 0.8(damage profile) = 364 dps SMG: dps = 350 vs armour = 350 * 1.15(damage profile) * 1.15(proficiency) = 463 dps Comparision: 364/463 = 79% . Against armour the scrambler rifle does only about 79% of the dps of an smg. 7 shots a second? Lol While I do a agree the 10 shots per second isn't reachable without a turbo controller, I tested how many times I could fire it and it's 8.5 shots per second. And I know plenty of people that are slightly faster than me so 9 shots per second. Six kin SMG : 442.75 DPS against armour Viziam ScR (8.5 shots) : 486.2 Viziam 9 shots : 514.8 Viziam 10 shots : 572 And even if you had a lower DPS vs armour than the SMG, it still wouldn't compensate the crazy DPS you reach against shield and the charge shot. The true balance would be to have a LOWER base DPS than all the other rifles without the charge shot and to outDPS them with the charge shot ready. That would be balanced and require some skill.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.08.17 08:59:00 - [26] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: 7 shots a second? Lol While I do a agree the 10 shots per second isn't reachable without a turbo controller, I tested how many times I could fire it and it's 8.5 shots per second. And I know plenty of people that are slightly faster than me so 9 shots per second. Your average, in-battle, shots per second? A reasonable number to use to considers balance? Anyone that believes this hasn't taken the time to engage their brain at all.
Omaarion27 Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2015.08.17 09:00:00 - [27] - Quote V1RONXSS wrote: Union118 wrote: Idk all i see is scramblers on the kill feed most games. Idk how my caldari with stacked armor plates melts faster thank my shields. You mean you see Assault Scramblers mostly. The other thing there no any good balanced CQC rifle, how about GEK's? Ppl who r always moaning on forums about "FOTM" already made this game more unbalanced as it was post Uprising. I've skilled AR to almost perfect and even than i still prefer adv ASCR to pro AR for CQC, as its outperform it and even has scope. But you right, regardless from official stats, ASCR and SCR do better against shields and armor in comparison to AR. Wich should be actually vice versa. i totally agree even with maxed proficiency in ar the scrambler without proficiency still takes out shield better in my opnion "They hate us because they Anus" CAL n GAL FTFW disagree meet me in battle n taste the RAILnPLASMA flavor
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 506	Posted - 2015.08.17 10:38:00 - [28] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Francois Sanchez wrote: 7 shots a second? Lol While I do a agree the 10 shots per second isn't reachable without a turbo controller, I tested how many times I could fire it and it's 8.5 shots per second. And I know plenty of people that are slightly faster than me so 9 shots per second. Your average, in-battle, shots per second? A reasonable number to use to considers balance? Anyone that believes this hasn't taken the time to engage their brain at all. And yes it's my average tested in batlle. And if you think nobody can go over 7 shots a second you wouldn't mind a max RoF nerf to 450 RPM right?
Union118 NON-Fatal Condemnation 663	Posted - 2015.08.17 11:24:00 - [29] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: Union118 wrote: It too powerful against armor. It supposed to be a shield melter. It melts armor even faster. I watched it melt a heavy in what seemed like a 3 seconds. The heavy should have won hand down considering how close they were yet the amarr survived with a few ticks. An SMG does more dps to armour than a scrambler rifle. No it doesn't. It does nearly twice as much damage than an smg but only fires 250 rpm slower (not 100% on the fire rate but I'm sure it's close). Edit: rpm difference is 400 but it still deals more DPS. I ran the numbers. I am correct. edit: Scramber rifle: Damage 65 7 shots a second average (generous) dps = 657 = 455 dps vs armour = 455 0.8(damage profile) = 364 dps SMG: dps = 350 vs armour = 350 * 1.15(damage profile) * 1.15(proficiency) = 463 dps Comparision: 364/463 = 79% . Against armour the scrambler rifle does only about 79% of the dps of an smg. Thats fine and dandy but take in consideration how close you have to be to use the smg. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.08.17 11:24:00 - [30] - Quote Omaarion27 wrote: V1RONXSS wrote: Union118 wrote: Idk all i see is scramblers on the kill feed most games. Idk how my caldari with stacked armor plates melts faster thank my shields. You mean you see Assault Scramblers mostly. The other thing there no any good balanced CQC rifle, how about GEK's? Ppl who r always moaning on forums about "FOTM" already made this game more unbalanced as it was post Uprising. I've skilled AR to almost perfect and even than i still prefer adv ASCR to pro AR for CQC, as its outperform it and even has scope. But you right, regardless from official stats, ASCR and SCR do better against shields and armor in comparison to AR. Wich should be actually vice versa. i totally agree even with maxed proficiency in ar the scrambler without proficiency still takes out shield better in my opnion Funny thing about opinions... Plus a ScR without proficiency would have a 120% on shields while an AR would have a 125%. So yes that's all your opinion is, just a fallacy. But let's not forget that semi-autos and full autos have different damage output... Or don't, most people do anyway. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."



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