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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.08.13 23:39:00 -
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I remember watching a review of Dust 514 after t came out, and a reviewer was so confused that he actually got a lot of things wrong. He could only get an AUR scrambler rifle because he didn't have the skill, but as a result, he thought that the scrambler rifles (and other weapons) could only be obtained through microtransaction. You could argue it was his fault for not understanding how the game's progression and currencies work, but the game didn't make things very clear, even to this day. New players who don't understand the progression system, and who see that only the AUR version is usable will be obligated to buy AUR, think the game is pay-to-win, and will be turned off. On top of that, the AUR items just add a lot of clutter to the assets. Almost every item has an AUR version, and sometimes they have several AUR versions (some have both 'neo' and 'pyrus' versions).
Another issue is the progression system itself. You go to the skill tree, buy a skill book, raise a skill, then you go to the market, buy the item, then you go to the fittings, and then place the item in a fit. This is a needlessly long and fractured experience. The act of unlocking a skill feel very disconnected from it's effects, and it can all be pretty confusing.
Now, imagine if things worked like this:
1) You get on Dust, you do some battles, and as salvage you get hundreds of standard items, dozens of advanced items, and very few prototype items.
2) The market is divided into 2 sections: the ISK-player market, and the AUR market. You can place your items in the ISK player market for sale, and you set the prices. Every single item in the ISK market is something obtained/crafted by, and sold by a fellow merc (hence the need for massive increase in loot).
3) Prices of items in the ISK store would be determined by demand, and scarcity. This would naturally cause rare proto items to be worth more than standard ones. This is where the AUR market comes in: in addition to letting you buy cosmetic items, keys, boxes, and boosters, the AUR market lets you purchase bulk packs of rare items for AUR. ISK and AUR items should have the same skill requirements to prevent the kind of confusion I covered in the first paragraph of this thread.
4) All guns start as a singular BPO, but that BPO can be fitted with consumable parts to "craft" different variants and tiers. For example, you have mass diver BPO, it has a "core" slot, and the fitted "core" module's tier (standard, advanced, prototype, or officer) decides the effective mass driver. If you want the equivalent of or current prototype "Freedom mass driver," you just fit a prototype "core". There is also a "fire" slot which holds a "fire module" which comes in many flavors (assault, breach, tactical) which determines how the mass driver shoots. Weapons would have their own fitting menu like dropsuits and vehicles, and saved fittings of weapons can then be sold, or fitted inside dropsuit fits. This not only gives players more freedom, but eliminates the need for devs to create so many different versions of a gun. This idea is borrowed from Aeon Amadi.
5) All dropsuits are the same tier (no standard, advanced proto, etc), bur they all have a "power core" slot. The effective tier of a dropsuit is determined by a "power core" module, which decides how much PG/CPU the dropsuit has. Dropsuits can all then be turned into BPOs, and let the "power core" and other fitted item determine the price of the fit. Credit to Aero Yassavi, and Avallo Kantor.
*Starter fits start with militia "cores" for both dropsuits and weapons*
6) Now to progression, and the skill tree. The actual suits and weapons won't have any skill requirements, but the skills decide what "cores" you're allowed to use on the base weapons. Say you want some scrambler rifles, so you raise the scrambler rifle skill to level 1 without having to waste time buying a skill book first. Aside from the bonus and unlocking the ability to use standard "cores", raising the scrambler rifle operation skill to level 1 gives you a free scrambler rifle BPO with x50 standard "cores". Raising it to level 3 gives you x15 advanced "cores". After that, there could be a prompt to go to the fittings to put on what you just unlocked. The effect is that this is much faster (no buying skill books), and the rewards of unlocking a skill become immediately apparent since you get some free items. Raising it to level 5 unlocks x5 prototype "cores". This was inspired by Legion's progression talk at Fanfest, but I have to say that I still hate the idea of locking items behind role-based trees; I don't want to have to unlock a bunch of scout stuff I don't want just to get to a shotgun. For clear role-based progression, something like the "progression" menu in Dust's current incarnation can be implemented.
7) Point number 3 mentioned people being able to buy bulk packs of rare items (like prototype and maybe officer), and this can lead to issues, but those issues can avoided if public battles into different levels, each with their own meta-level limits for fits. This means you can't use prototype fits in low level public battles, but you can still use them in high level ones, FW, PC, and PVE (hopefully someday).
I also want things like PVE, some kind attack/defend modes, open sandbox area, social spaces like space stations, racial parity (every race having one of each type of weapon, like shotguns, long range rifles, launchers, heavy weapons. Each race having one of each type of vehicle, and equal amount of map outposts), varied exotic environments, but I don't think a big wishlist of dreams would be productive. This list is basically how I think existing systems should be revamped for a new platform.
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.13 23:42:00 -
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This is why Kagehoshi is Best Poster.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.08.14 00:57:00 -
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Open to feedback on how existing assets and systems should be modified.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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NoExsplosionsMgee
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.14 01:18:00 -
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Bump
PRAISE THE SUN!! \ |Gö¼|' /
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.08.14 04:31:00 -
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I still hope
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Agent Overkill
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.14 07:29:00 -
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- There should be a codex of categorized information that should always be kept up-to-date somewhere.
For example: there should be a damage profile topic that shows how the types of weapons perform against shield and armor, and under that a button to expand it showing all weapons neatly nested under the correct type.
- There should be a tab showing a weapon's damage profile and above the description it should state that type.
- There should be levels of tutorials (basic, intermediate, and advanced) that feed players info and guide them through parts of the game. Players should be rewarded for completing these.
[Basic tutorials]:
Player must walk, sprint, crouch, and jump.
Player must fire, aim down sights, throw a grenade, fast switch weapons, and switch to equipment.
Intermediate tutorials:
Walk/run away from a grenade indicator
Reward: 5x Standard grenades of all types. (locus, flux, etc)
There are several cloaked drones around the player. Have a cloaked drone shoot, then face it by following the damage indicator, and shoot it.
Create a squad & Set squad orders.
[Advanced]:
Player spawns with a dropsuit with a scrambler rifle & massdriver. Objective is to Remove targets' shields with scrambler then their armor with a massdriver to kill them. The target will have high shield and armor HP.
Player is required to spawn in with a suit without codebreakers. Objective: Hack two points, go to the supply depot next to it, switch to a fit with a complex codebreaker and hack two points.
Reward: 20 standard, 10 advanced, & 5 Prototype codebreakers.
Dedicated Vehicle Specialist. :D
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Boot Booter
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.14 07:32:00 -
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I wish ccp would listen solely to you. Every single post you make is constructed with well thought out and defended points. I feel however that we have strayed to far at our current state to achieve things like a completely salvage based player market. Although it would be awesome. I see that you say a new platform soooo... Yeah I'll leave it at that.
We definitely should push for weapon and dropsuit "cores" as soon as possible, in the current platform. This would really remove a lot of clutter. Also, unnecessary and redundant aurum items should be removed and replaced with standard items you could buy with isk that don't have different skill requirements. I. E. You can buy a proto shotgun with isk or you could buy the same proto shotgun with the same skill requirements for aurum etc. No more different names for the same item. If we have the "cores" you'd simply just be able to buy a "prototype weapon core" for either isk or aurum.
Less clutter, less lag... Dust needs this now. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.08.14 11:34:00 -
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More thoughts are welcomed
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.14 12:00:00 -
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you point about the old reviewer reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oUM25ICiEU
there was so much optimism back in those days.
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Danja Dom
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
12
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Posted - 2015.08.14 12:08:00 -
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Yes, yes and yes can't disagree with any of it. Now all ccp need to do is listen to the people who play their game...
"Rules were made to be broken"
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.14 12:09:00 -
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It infected the press as much as it infected us.
It'd be nice to see that optimism back in play at the hands of a new Dust 514.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.14 12:38:00 -
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Recently I have been gaming with NPC mercs just getting on to the game.. and dddaaaayyyyyuuuummm it's nasty 
Many may not know/care, but back in the day, players at DMG reached out to these guys and tried to show them what they were working with and how to get the most out of the game, after months of repeat explanations just to feed some poor bastard to the next wave of stompers.. I tired of it, and kept my game time focused on Corp instead.
about 20 months later...
I go back to doing the same, reach out to the sucker with 2/17 on the killboard and poke it with a stick.. then not only does it spawn repeatedly and get REKT, but it also speaks!!  and you realise.. the merc you fighting is some unfortunate soul, who saw a FPS on PSN and thought I'll try this... as standard COD-fish rely on being spoon fed they end up here with no idea, of what they should do to get anything other than a list of deaths from the game.. so they get stomped and quit.
(In TWO years, newbies are having the exact same issues, I overlook a lot of flaws here, but that is messed up!!)
The default setting on Push To Talk, activating voice in chats, having voice chat enabled are the first blocks.
^ newbie immediatly assumes his stuff or the game is broken
Skill Tree - No indication of what will help them, so they spend randomly
Fittings, a wave of ISK/AUR crap, confusing players and sending them around in circles..
This along with pub stompz fo dayyyzz are the greatest blocks to having gamers enjoy Dust514
- From my view, the game is worthless until we get a system in place for NPE.
SOONtm
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.08.14 15:30:00 -
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Or, the game could be moved to the PC where the big boys are, and like EVE CCP could just say, "Mwuhahaha, figure it out" and also like EVE, the playerbase would.
DUST shouldn't have been on a console for just this reason GÇô it simply doesn't jibe with what console kiddies are used to and therefore it hurts DUSTGÇÿs player retention.
Only after five or so years did EVE begin to add tutorials and even then they are still rudimentary.
A simple manditory automatic walkthrough from buying a skill to going to market to setting up a fit the first time a player plays would suffice.
MY CPM2 PLATFORM
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.14 15:40:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I still hope
That's a shame :/
I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease
Swarms everywhere.
So-bittervet
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Count- -Crotchula
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Posted - 2015.08.14 18:07:00 -
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you forget that DUST is basically a freemium game that has been cracked.
The people who abused PC play a very different game to a new player, they don't have to worry about ISK, there is no risk or reward, they broke the game, they don't have to go ISK positive.
Whereas a new player ONLY has access to rubbish gear or AUR gear, they are supposed to see the AUR gear is a way to compete. That's why everyone is stuck in with each other, if it's MLT vs MLT or PRO vs PRO, where is the incentive to buy AUR?
DUST IS and always will be a freemium game, you're SUPPOSED to run out of gear, you're supposed to replace ISK with real money.
A freemium game isn't fun for a new player, the paywall is pretty much immediately when it comes to DUST as well. |
Count- -Crotchula
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Posted - 2015.08.14 18:10:00 -
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You also forget that the PS3 is old and slowly not being supported, DUST cannot run or look any better, CCP do not care about DUST and look at the amount of bugs.
Look at the smallest silliest bug you can think of that has been in DUST for over a year and hasn't been fixed. Do you even think one paragraph of your wasted posts and ideas will be implemented if these small bugs that have existed for over a year haven't been fixed!
DUST is not going anywhere but downhill, it does not have the same support as a lot of other games do. It's a relatively old IP now, it never came to fruition, no EVE connection, nothing happened and nothing ever will happen so stop wasting your time. |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.14 18:17:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:You also forget that the PS3 is old and slowly not being supported, DUST cannot run or look any better, CCP do not care about DUST and look at the amount of bugs.
Look at the smallest silliest bug you can think of that has been in DUST for over a year and hasn't been fixed. Do you even think one paragraph of your wasted posts and ideas will be implemented if these small bugs that have existed for over a year haven't been fixed!
DUST is not going anywhere but downhill, it does not have the same support as a lot of other games do. It's a relatively old IP now, it never came to fruition, no EVE connection, nothing happened and nothing ever will happen so stop wasting your time.
We got the WoD treatment as CCP ran off chasing their Golden Goose.
I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease
Swarms everywhere.
WoD 514
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
283
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Posted - 2015.08.14 18:22:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:You also forget that the PS3 is old and slowly not being supported, DUST cannot run or look any better, CCP do not care about DUST and look at the amount of bugs.
Dust could look and run a hell of a lot better, if CCP Shanghai had decent staff and leadership from the beginning.
But I agree that they don't care about Dust, unless they are wedging in more crap that people can pay real money for.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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Ahkhomi Cypher
0uter.Heaven
985
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Posted - 2015.08.14 18:38:00 -
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Sup homie o7
I applaud you for trying to mentor these newberries this late in the game. The Learning Coalition channel used to be my place to send/rf# newbs to try and help out with the NPE. It's just that seeing so many ppl i personally put time into burn out in under a month got me all types of demoralized.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.14 19:07:00 -
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A player market simply will not function as long as AUR gear exists. When supply permanently out weighs demand there is no economy. Gear which can be used early should only come from FW and AUR prefits which can not be edited.
A market would also not work based around salvage. Maybe some day we will get a form of manufacturing which will allow us to be a step closer to a full realization of Dust.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.08.14 20:42:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:You also forget that the PS3 is old and slowly not being supported, DUST cannot run or look any better, CCP do not care about DUST and look at the amount of bugs.
Look at the smallest silliest bug you can think of that has been in DUST for over a year and hasn't been fixed. Do you even think one paragraph of your wasted posts and ideas will be implemented if these small bugs that have existed for over a year haven't been fixed!
DUST is not going anywhere but downhill, it does not have the same support as a lot of other games do. It's a relatively old IP now, it never came to fruition, no EVE connection, nothing happened and nothing ever will happen so stop wasting your time.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.08.14 20:47:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:A player market simply will not function as long as AUR gear exists. When supply permanently out weighs demand there is no economy. Gear which can be used early should only come from FW and AUR prefits which can not be edited.
A market would also not work based around salvage. Maybe some day we will get a form of manufacturing which will allow us to be a step closer to a full realization of Dust.
AUR-bought versions could be trade-locked to prevent negative effects on the market. Even if it isn't, most people don't buy AUR anyway, so the effects on the economy wouldn't be that large (though I would prefer if they were trade-locked).
I don't see why an economy based on salvage can't be a thing.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.08.15 07:36:00 -
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More thoughts are welcome
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2015.08.15 13:35:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:deezy dabest wrote:A player market simply will not function as long as AUR gear exists. When supply permanently out weighs demand there is no economy. Gear which can be used early should only come from FW and AUR prefits which can not be edited.
A market would also not work based around salvage. Maybe some day we will get a form of manufacturing which will allow us to be a step closer to a full realization of Dust. AUR-bought versions could be trade-locked to prevent negative effects on the market. Even if it isn't, most people don't buy AUR anyway, so the effects on the economy wouldn't be that large (though I would prefer if they were trade-locked). I don't see why an economy based on salvage can't be a thing.
If the items bought from the limitless AUR supply are trade-locked. Players who are selling items should be able to put AUR as an alternative payment method. That way people would have a way to use AUR to buy and sell items with players.
Escalation game mode
Infantry: Velvet Overkill
Vehicles: Agent Overkill
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2015.08.15 14:08:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:You also forget that the PS3 is old and slowly not being supported, DUST cannot run or look any better, CCP do not care about DUST and look at the amount of bugs.
Look at the smallest silliest bug you can think of that has been in DUST for over a year and hasn't been fixed. Do you even think one paragraph of your wasted posts and ideas will be implemented if these small bugs that have existed for over a year haven't been fixed!
DUST is not going anywhere but downhill, it does not have the same support as a lot of other games do. It's a relatively old IP now, it never came to fruition, no EVE connection, nothing happened and nothing ever will happen so stop wasting your time.
For example: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2671003
Escalation game mode
Infantry: Velvet Overkill
Vehicles: Agent Overkill
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12
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Posted - 2015.08.19 22:24:00 -
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I know CCP Rouge is slumbering in his his mighty executive producer tomb-ship after his great feast of tears from the "Rouge Wedding", but I am hoping the dark god will awaken and take notice.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Saint Winter
THE N.O.O.B.S
49
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Posted - 2015.08.19 23:01:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I 4) All guns start as a singular BPO, but that BPO can be fitted with consumable parts to "craft" different variants & tiers. For example, you have mass diver BPO, it has a "core" slot, & the fitted "core" module's tier (standard, advanced, prototype, or officer) decides the effective tier of the mass driver. If you want the equivalent of or current prototype "Freedom mass driver," you just fit a prototype "core". There is also a "fire" slot which holds a "fire module" which comes in many flavors (assault, breach, etc) which determines how the mass driver shoots. Weapons would have their own fitting menu like dropsuits, & saved fittings of weapons can then be sold, or fitted inside dropsuit fits. This not only gives players more freedom, but eliminates the need for devs to create so many different versions of a gun. This idea is borrowed from Aeon Amadi.
I like me this part, he me remembers to one that I had .
I hope that they read it it is very good, you prop this that in dust 514 every weapon is unique, and every who who could create his own weapon nobody capablly of copying his idea to less, that he says his core and the modules. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.08.20 16:10:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I know CCP Rouge is slumbering in his mighty executive producer tomb-ship after his great feast of tears from the "Rouge Wedding", but I am hoping the dark god will awaken and take notice.
I just sacrificed some Fanfest attendees to CCP Rouge improve the chances.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Fanfest2014 Attendee
Y0UTHINASIA
191
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Posted - 2015.08.20 16:11:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I just sacrificed some Fanfest attendees to CCP Rouge improve the chances. You would not survive the attempt, Kagehoshi. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12
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Posted - 2015.08.24 05:21:00 -
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More thoughts welcomed.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
MeatBag Disposal Service LOGISTICS
2
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Posted - 2015.08.24 05:40:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:This is why Kagehoshi is Best Poster.
I've always felt like this , he's one of my Dust Hero's.
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Terry Webber
Molon Labe.
RUST415
841
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Posted - 2015.08.24 05:44:00 -
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Agent Overkill wrote:- There should be a codex of categorized information that should always be kept up-to-date somewhere.
For example: there should be a damage profile topic that shows how the types of weapons perform against shield and armor, and under that a button to expand it showing all weapons neatly nested under the correct type.
- There should be a tab showing a weapon's damage profile and above the description it should state that type.
- There should be levels of tutorials (basic, intermediate, and advanced) that feed players info and guide them through parts of the game. Players should be rewarded for completing these.
[Basic tutorials]:
Player must walk, sprint, crouch, and jump.
Player must fire, aim down sights, throw a grenade, fast switch weapons, and switch to equipment.
[Intermediate tutorials]:
Walk/run away from a grenade indicator
Reward: 5x Standard grenades of all types. (locus, flux, etc)
There are several cloaked drones around the player. Have a cloaked drone shoot, then face it by following the damage indicator, and shoot it.
Create a squad & Set squad orders.
[Advanced]:
Player spawns with a dropsuit with a scrambler rifle & massdriver. Objective is to Remove targets' shields with scrambler then their armor with a massdriver to kill them. The target will have high shield and armor HP.
Player is required to spawn in with a suit without codebreakers. Objective: Hack two points, go to the supply depot next to it, switch to a fit with a complex codebreaker and hack two points.
Reward: 20 standard, 10 advanced, & 5 Prototype codebreakers.
I like this idea. In-game game lore could explain them as your NPC corporation's boot camp.
Inertial Booster Module
Vehicle Installation
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
26
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Posted - 2015.08.24 13:03:00 -
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If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
6
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Posted - 2015.08.24 13:07:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
So modular weapons, then? Following the proposed system of attaching the cost of the asset to the powercore it uses?
I like that idea, and it'd lead to some really neat variety of weapons used in matches.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Jared Fogle
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.08.24 13:15:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
So you would support wiping isk, assets, and SP?
Wut kinda devil are you?
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.08.24 13:28:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
Does that means powercores are currently not feasible or just taking waaaay too much damm time?
'As salty as salt can get.' how I describe the dust player base.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
10
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Posted - 2015.08.24 13:51:00 -
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This is pretty much a textbook example of a solid wish list for the future.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations
3
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Posted - 2015.08.24 13:53:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
I obviously have no idea how much CCP earns from disposable AUR gear, but I've spent hundreds of dollars on this game and have never bought any of it. I would buy AUR that could be converted to ISK in the same way that you can buy PLEX in EVE to convert to ISK. If you could add this mechanism to DUST in a convenient/prominent way (ideally with a pseudo supply/demand curve set by CCP that allows the ISK price to fluctuate based on demand) possibly via boosters.
With this mechanism in place we could delete all disposable AUR gear from the database (BPO's, Skins, etc. would remain), migrate existing stuff to the ISK version, and reduce the size of the database by a lot. Next unlock all tiers of gear at level 1 of a skill. This would create several benefits:
1. I'm pretty sure this would result in increased revenue for CCP.
2. Radically simplifies the NPE. There is plenty of stuff to figure out in this game, and the new player grokking just how the payment model works is another layer of unnecessary complexity. If a new player incorrectly concludes they have to pay real money to use certain items most will be turned off and leave. There are several ways that the current system can confuse new players on this point (e.g. the defender suits and the progression tab).
3. It makes having a limited number of available fits much less punishing. A main reason I don't use disposable AUR gear (even when I salvage it for free) is because I have to create separate fits for it. When I die in battle and need to restock, I may forget and accidentally waste AUR on it. It's just a crappy experience.
4. I suspect it will improve the performance, as it allows you guys to delete tons of stuff from the database.
5. With a smaller database, doing updates via the dev team would be much simpler because there is less stuff to change/test.
6. Did I mention this would probably INCREASE REVENUE?
Also, welcome back. I hope you enjoyed your much-deserved vacation. I also hope you got a much-deserved raise!
Best PvE idea ever!
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Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.24 13:55:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
DUST x86
AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
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DJINN RamMyAssge
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
1
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Vell0cet wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. I obviously have no idea how much CCP earns from disposable AUR gear, but I've spent hundreds of dollars on this game and have never bought any of it. I would buy AUR that could be converted to ISK in the same way that you can buy PLEX in EVE to convert to ISK. If you could add this mechanism to DUST in a convenient/prominent way (ideally with a pseudo supply/demand curve set by CCP that allows the ISK price to fluctuate based on demand) possibly via boosters. With this mechanism in place we could delete all disposable AUR gear from the database (BPO's, Skins, etc. would remain), migrate existing stuff to the ISK version, and reduce the size of the database by a lot. Next unlock all tiers of gear at level 1 of a skill. This would create several benefits: 1. I'm pretty sure this would result in increased revenue for CCP. 2. Radically simplifies the NPE. There is plenty of stuff to figure out in this game, and the new player grokking just how the payment model works is another layer of unnecessary complexity. If a new player incorrectly concludes they have to pay real money to use certain items most will be turned off and leave. There are several ways that the current system can confuse new players on this point (e.g. the defender suits and the progression tab). 3. It makes having a limited number of available fits much less punishing. A main reason I don't use disposable AUR gear (even when I salvage it for free) is because I have to create separate fits for it. When I die in battle and need to restock, I may forget and accidentally waste AUR on it. It's just a crappy experience. 4. I suspect it will improve the performance, as it allows you guys to delete tons of stuff from the database. 5. With a smaller database, doing updates via the dev team would be much simpler because there is less stuff to change/test. 6. Did I mention this would probably INCREASE REVENUE? Also, welcome back. I hope you enjoyed your much-deserved vacation. I also hope you got a much-deserved raise!
Very good ideas. You had me at hello, handsome. |
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.08.24 13:58:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 Seconded.
Rattati, please convince CCP Rouge to push the Dust port from 2045 to 2016 or so.
@Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
18
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Posted - 2015.08.24 14:03:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 Seconded. Rattati, please convince CCP Rouge to push the Dust port from 2045 to 2016 or so.
Just
AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
26
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Posted - 2015.08.24 14:34:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 Seconded. Rattati, please convince CCP Rouge to push the Dust port from 2045 to 2016 or so. Just
I just realized shia has a braided ponytail...i never saw that before in my multiple prior cringe-watchings.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
18
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Posted - 2015.08.24 14:39:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 Seconded. Rattati, please convince CCP Rouge to push the Dust port from 2045 to 2016 or so. Just I just realized shia has a braided ponytail...i never saw that before in my multiple prior cringe-watchings.
Ponytails confirmed for DUST x86
AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
10
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Posted - 2015.08.24 14:40:00 -
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Yet another reason to believe he's gone around the bend
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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howard sanchez
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.08.24 15:01:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:This is pretty much a textbook example of a solid wish list for the future.
Is there a future? Is there?! |
Falling Sunset
Standby Retaliation
6
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Posted - 2015.08.24 15:12:00 -
[47] - Quote
Dust it's not even the half of what it used to be... Just like love... |
Jared Fogle
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.08.24 15:15:00 -
[48] - Quote
Falling Sunset wrote:Dust it's not even the half of what it used to be... Just like love...
Maybe we could find love again? You wanna go get a 6 incher with me?
I mean subway of course. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.08.24 15:15:00 -
[49] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86
Dust x86
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.08.24 15:17:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
Subliminal message ^.
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
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Falling Sunset
Standby Retaliation
6
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Posted - 2015.08.24 15:18:00 -
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Jared Fogle wrote:Falling Sunset wrote:Dust it's not even the half of what it used to be... Just like love... Maybe we could find love again? You wanna go get a 6 incher with me? I mean subway of course.
Glad to.. There's an old Saying in Texas.. You Ride The Horse Till is Dead.. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Falling Sunset wrote:Jared Fogle wrote:Falling Sunset wrote:Dust it's not even the half of what it used to be... Just like love... Maybe we could find love again? You wanna go get a 6 incher with me? I mean subway of course. Glad to.. There's an old Saying in Texas.. You Ride The Horse Till is Dead..
Spes ultima dea
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12
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Posted - 2015.08.24 20:03:00 -
[53] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
Yay!
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.08.24 21:49:00 -
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I also came to a conclusion that skill books are unnecessary.
Their function as isk sink for the economy can be done by each level of skills costing 1/5 of the original book cost (in addition to normal SP cost, d'oh)
Thanks for all the supporters. 07
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Piercing Serenity
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
1
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Posted - 2015.08.24 22:00:00 -
[55] - Quote
KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:I also came to a conclusion that skill books are unnecessary.
Their function as isk sink for the economy can be done by each level of skills costing 1/5 of the original book cost (in addition to normal SP cost, d'oh)
I think skill books are fine. If they could be traded, it would allow people to develop skill book libraries or "skill packages" to give to new players for free. If the ISK cost was wrapped up in the skill purchase, it would be much harder (logistically) to get a new player set up in the way his or her corp wanted them to be
"For people who don't really do S**T, ya'll really doing the most"
Lv. 1 Forum Warrior
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
581
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Posted - 2015.08.24 23:26:00 -
[56] - Quote
I've played through the actual resets. Full wipe, start over.
If I could get vouchers to reclaim my skins I would take a reset. It's the only way at this point.
So many good ideas held back by loud voices.
Voices that caused the current state of things.
Slit the throats and bleed out the ones who need to go.
Keep the cross-platform dream alive. Rebuild with these ideas. I've been working with udk on a dust clone. If I can get as far as I have... You guys can do it no problem.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
20
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Posted - 2015.08.24 23:54:00 -
[57] - Quote
If it is rebuilt I hope it isn't completely simplified. I rather like the complexities of the game.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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CallMeNoName
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2015.08.25 01:38:00 -
[58] - Quote
One day, maybe just ONE DAY, Game Jesus will have descended upon this game, and touched it with it's love. Maybe. |
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
26
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Posted - 2015.08.25 02:41:00 -
[59] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:
Ponytails confirmed for DUST x86
Literal and figurative ROFL
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
26
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Posted - 2015.08.25 02:41:00 -
[60] - Quote
KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:I also came to a conclusion that skill books are unnecessary.
Their function as isk sink for the economy can be done by each level of skills costing 1/5 of the original book cost (in addition to normal SP cost, d'oh)
Agreed
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3
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Posted - 2015.08.25 05:17:00 -
[61] - Quote
Have a million suggestions...I wouldn't even know where to start. Without a confirmation or hint of a ps4 port, I won't even bother talking about Dust's future.
Edit: (maybe next week, I'll feel different)
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
Check RND out here
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.08.25 08:18:00 -
[62] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Have a million suggestions...I wouldn't even know where to start. Without a confirmation or hint of a ps4 port, I won't even bother talking about Dust's future.
Edit: (maybe next week, I'll feel different)
It's pretty easy for CCP actually: it would be enough to start reading from here
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
1
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:12:00 -
[63] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:I also came to a conclusion that skill books are unnecessary.
Their function as isk sink for the economy can be done by each level of skills costing 1/5 of the original book cost (in addition to normal SP cost, d'oh) Agreed
The skillbook ISK cost is a gating mechanic, not an ISK sink. Cheap skillbooks can be bought and skilled into early. Expensive ones become available after a while. The skillbook's ISK cost basically says "You need to have played this much to ride". This can e.g. be used to steer new players away from committing into racial suits very early so they have more time to look at what other MLT suits there are.
SP can be acquired by waiting. ISK used to be accessible only through play. So there's a legit design intent here. More thoughts on that matter in this topic on early skilltree progression. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12
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Posted - 2015.11.06 15:35:00 -
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Port DUST514 to PC and PS4 (I mainly want it on PS4)
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.11.06 16:15:00 -
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for weapon and suit balancing i always thought having the same 4 shield/armour resistences that the ships of EVE have as well as the damage profiles.
So instead of just higher shield or armour they did similar balance of EM/KIN/THER/EXP. so lasers would do EM/THER, Projectiles do EXP/KIN/THER, rails do KIN/THER and blasters do THER/KIN. with the 4 resistence numbers that shields and armour has plus introduction to resistence plates it'd lead to a whole new level of fittings and fine tuning of weapons as for example.
Lasers 17 damage
EM - 12
THER - 5
if they're doing too little damage to shields, raise the EM, that way its not increasing as much damage to armour
Grenades - 600 Explosive.
vs shields they'd be terrible (50% EXP resists) so you'd have to combine flux grenades as well as locus to get to the 10% EXP resists of armour.
also with resist plates suits can be adapted for 'scrub' playing. jumping mass drivers/nade spam, swap shield HP out for a resist plate and watch the MD rounds be limited. reds have to adapt as it limits just one continuous tactic. bunch of laser guys, move to an armour suit and slap on EM/Therm resists and laugh as the damage is cut and they have to move from towers/buildings to do efficient damage
Please fix my C-II hitpoints!! Jesus and I love you :)
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Chosokabe Ite
Shields Of The State
140
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Posted - 2015.11.06 17:25:00 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
How about something easy then, bumper stickers for vehicles.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
591
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Posted - 2015.11.07 04:54:00 -
[67] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
You mean you'd replace the BPO of say an AR with a power core BPO for that weapon or you'd get rid of BPOs period? |
Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.07 05:18:00 -
[68] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Port DUST514 to PC and PS4 (I mainly want it on PS4)
Are you perhaps special my friend??
Porting to PC and ps4 is a bad idea
PC is were it should go because ccps whole playerbase is there + no limitations and things would go fast
Fun fact:painting r33d flamez 0n computers mak dem goo fasta
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.11.07 06:44:00 -
[69] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
I think Rattati has proven himself enough already with saving CCP's a** and understanding game design and marketing strategy. Why is he not running the d*mn company already? There should be a lot of people worrying about their jobs enough to can the present management.
Seriously, that's three flubs for ol' Hilmar there. Usually, a company sees that as a problem and does something about it. Oh well, one does have to wonder why anyone thought Steve Balmer was ever fit to run Microsoft.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2015.11.07 15:18:00 -
[70] - Quote
Golden Day wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Port DUST514 to PC and PS4 (I mainly want it on PS4) Are you perhaps special my friend?? Porting to PC and ps4 is a bad idea PC is were it should go because ccps whole playerbase is there + no limitations and things would go fast Fun fact:painting r33d flamez 0n computers mak dem goo fasta
As I said in another thread, putting the game into the massively-oversaturated PC Free-to-Play market would result in it gaining more users for a brief period before they all left for the next shiny new thing, leaving only the EVE players who actually care about Dust 514 who only want it on PC so they can stick it on their 5th monitor while mining ice with the other 4.
I'd describe that as a fate worse than death.
Cross-platform between PC and Console with shooters has been proven many times not to work, so I think the game should stick with people who actually like it and care about it, and that's us here on PSN.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
28
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Posted - 2015.11.07 15:19:00 -
[71] - Quote
Golden Day wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Port DUST514 to PC and PS4 (I mainly want it on PS4) Are you perhaps special my friend?? Porting to PC and ps4 is a bad idea PC is were it should go because ccps whole playerbase is there + no limitations and things would go fast Fun fact:painting r33d flamez 0n computers mak dem goo fasta
Are you perhaps mentally deficient, stranger?
"CCP's whole playerbase" is not, in fact, on the PC, as evidenced by the numerous people who prefer console who play DUST.
'and things would go fast' is a pathetic justification for axing a substantial number, if not a majority of the loyal playerbase.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Kaze, you are best logi. Best. Logi.
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.11.07 15:24:00 -
[72] - Quote
Port to PC = CCP taking their current Eve players to a new game
Port to PS4 = More players coming in to New Eden and potential for both games.
SOONtm
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
717
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Posted - 2015.11.07 15:48:00 -
[73] - Quote
TheD1CK wrote:Port to PC = CCP taking their current Eve players to a new game
Port to PS4 = More players coming in to New Eden and potential for both games.
I'm done with ps4 I'm strictly staying xbone and PC but if a dust port or "legion" was on ps4 I'd play my ps4 but ATM it'll collect more dust than my ps3
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.07 16:52:00 -
[74] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Port DUST514 to PC and PS4 (I mainly want it on PS4) Are you perhaps special my friend?? Porting to PC and ps4 is a bad idea PC is were it should go because ccps whole playerbase is there + no limitations and things would go fast Fun fact:painting r33d flamez 0n computers mak dem goo fasta Are you perhaps mentally deficient, stranger? "CCP's whole playerbase" is not, in fact, on the PC, as evidenced by the numerous people who prefer console who play DUST. 'and things would go fast' is a pathetic justification for axing a substantial number, if not a majority of the loyal playerbase.
What I mean by things go fasta is that updates and minor fixes would be easy and fast to bring to us and not be delayed by Sony
Numerous?? You mean the 2k of the players who still play??
Lol eve online double digits > dust 514 2k
More people would play Dust on PC than ps4
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.07 17:10:00 -
[75] - Quote
Double post
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.07 17:12:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Golden Day wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Port DUST514 to PC and PS4 (I mainly want it on PS4) Are you perhaps special my friend?? Porting to PC and ps4 is a bad idea PC is were it should go because ccps whole playerbase is there + no limitations and things would go fast Fun fact:painting r33d flamez 0n computers mak dem goo fasta As I said in another thread, putting the game into the massively-oversaturated PC Free-to-Play market would result in it gaining more users for a brief period before they all left for the next shiny new thing, leaving only the EVE players who actually care about Dust 514 who only want it on PC so they can stick it on their 5th monitor while mining ice with the other 4. I'd describe that as a fate worse than death. Cross-platform between PC and Console with shooters has been proven many times not to work, so I think the game should stick with people who actually like it and care about it, and that's us here on PSN.
Just imagine the potential amount of peoples who would play dust on PC that ps4 now imagine that doubled if it becomes popular
Infact if this was on PC on the carbon engine this game would be bad ass and already integrated well into eve online
Consoles hold us back but if we get on PC we can have our things that were broken promises and dreams turned into
energy drinkin bottle crushin **** your pants reality.
If we were on PC we would be as competitive as CS:GO
TL:DR Releasing on PC would fix ALMOST all our problems
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2015.11.07 17:13:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Port DUST514 to PC and PS4 (I mainly want it on PS4) Are you perhaps special my friend?? Porting to PC and ps4 is a bad idea PC is were it should go because ccps whole playerbase is there + no limitations and things would go fast Fun fact:painting r33d flamez 0n computers mak dem goo fasta Are you perhaps mentally deficient, stranger? "CCP's whole playerbase" is not, in fact, on the PC, as evidenced by the numerous people who prefer console who play DUST. 'and things would go fast' is a pathetic justification for axing a substantial number, if not a majority of the loyal playerbase. What I mean by things go fasta is that updates and minor fixes would be easy and fast to bring to us and not be delayed by Sony Numerous?? You mean the 2k of the players who still play?? Lol eve online double digits > dust 514 2k More people would play Dust on PC than ps4
...that's seriously your measure?
There's only around 2k of us left because most of us felt we got shafted by last year's FanFest, and before that the game released in a pretty poor state thanks to the mismanagement of the likes of CCP Jian, who aren't even with the company anymore (probably as a result).
I will remind you that even back when the guns had no Absolute ranges so a person 1 meter outside your max range would take no damage from your shots, the game still got a large number of downloads, and even back during the Open Beta in Chromosome the Battle of Caldari Prime attracted so much attention from both players and the Press because it represented PC players in space and Console players on the ground fighting for the same objectives simultaneously.
Obviously on the Dust side that just translated into a text blurb on the login screen and the later incorporation of the destroyed Titan into the backgrounds of the maps, but it was still a major factor in bringing in players.
If you look at EVE-Offline, even in the broken state this game has almost perpetually been in, we almost broke 10,000 at the game's launch last year in May.
It doesn't take much to imagine the kind of massive player count this game would have if it were fully functional and on a current-gen console.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Port DUST514 to PC and PS4 (I mainly want it on PS4) Are you perhaps special my friend?? Porting to PC and ps4 is a bad idea PC is were it should go because ccps whole playerbase is there + no limitations and things would go fast Fun fact:painting r33d flamez 0n computers mak dem goo fasta Are you perhaps mentally deficient, stranger? "CCP's whole playerbase" is not, in fact, on the PC, as evidenced by the numerous people who prefer console who play DUST. 'and things would go fast' is a pathetic justification for axing a substantial number, if not a majority of the loyal playerbase. What I mean by things go fasta is that updates and minor fixes would be easy and fast to bring to us and not be delayed by Sony Numerous?? You mean the 2k of the players who still play?? Lol eve online double digits > dust 514 2k More people would play Dust on PC than ps4 ...that's seriously your measure? There's only around 2k of us left because most of us felt we got shafted by last year's FanFest, and before that the game released in a pretty poor state thanks to the mismanagement of the likes of CCP Jian, who aren't even with the company anymore (probably as a result). I will remind you that even back when the guns had no Absolute ranges so a person 1 meter outside your max range would take no damage from your shots, the game still got a large number of downloads, and even back during the Open Beta in Chromosome the Battle of Caldari Prime attracted so much attention from both players and the Press because it represented PC players in space and Console players on the ground fighting for the same objectives simultaneously. Obviously on the Dust side that just translated into a text blurb on the login screen and the later incorporation of the destroyed Titan into the backgrounds of the maps, but it was still a major factor in bringing in players. If you look at EVE-Offline, even in the broken state this game has almost perpetually been in, we almost broke 10,000 at the game's launch last year in May. It doesn't take much to imagine the kind of massive player count this game would have if it were fully functional and on a current-gen console.
It doesn't take much imaging the bigger playerbase active on PC also if it was on PC eve players wouldn't have to buy a ps4 to try it .
Stop trying to deny my 4k burning trees in the future with 4k orbitals dropping down as my eyes melt in glorious graphics
#PRAISETHEBURNINGTREES
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
2
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Posted - 2015.11.07 17:42:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Port DUST514 to PC and PS4 (I mainly want it on PS4) Are you perhaps special my friend?? Porting to PC and ps4 is a bad idea PC is were it should go because ccps whole playerbase is there + no limitations and things would go fast Fun fact:painting r33d flamez 0n computers mak dem goo fasta Are you perhaps mentally deficient, stranger? "CCP's whole playerbase" is not, in fact, on the PC, as evidenced by the numerous people who prefer console who play DUST. 'and things would go fast' is a pathetic justification for axing a substantial number, if not a majority of the loyal playerbase. What I mean by things go fasta is that updates and minor fixes would be easy and fast to bring to us and not be delayed by Sony Numerous?? You mean the 2k of the players who still play?? Lol eve online double digits > dust 514 2k More people would play Dust on PC than ps4 ...that's seriously your measure? There's only around 2k of us left because most of us felt we got shafted by last year's FanFest, and before that the game released in a pretty poor state thanks to the mismanagement of the likes of CCP Jian, who aren't even with the company anymore (probably as a result). I will remind you that even back when the guns had no Absolute ranges so a person 1 meter outside your max range would take no damage from your shots, the game still got a large number of downloads, and even back during the Open Beta in Chromosome the Battle of Caldari Prime attracted so much attention from both players and the Press because it represented PC players in space and Console players on the ground fighting for the same objectives simultaneously. Obviously on the Dust side that just translated into a text blurb on the login screen and the later incorporation of the destroyed Titan into the backgrounds of the maps, but it was still a major factor in bringing in players. If you look at EVE-Offline, even in the broken state this game has almost perpetually been in, we almost broke 10,000 at the game's launch last year in May. It doesn't take much to imagine the kind of massive player count this game would have if it were fully functional and on a current-gen console.
but there are a lot more aaa shooters on console
dust is very unique for a first person shooter...but as soon as it shows up on ps4 its gunna have ps2 to compete with and whatever new cod is out and battlefield..and all the other aaa games that are on console...
dust is a ftp game and assuming that it continues as such i think it will have a better chance of taking off on pc...personally i would prefer that they remove the ftp model from the future of dust 514
can it completely
stop making updates that cause further monetization
open up the game to actually be a normal game freemium model games suck
make it a subscription like eve
you can even then offer subscription combos on pc eve and dust together for 20 25 bucks for example.,...
ide prefer it on pc
ide prefer it switched to a subscription style game
anything beyond that idgaf because those are the only two factors that matter to me
i prefer pc because itll be easier to build upon ...it has more power for development and thus need less optimization time to run they can patch and update whenever they want and i dont honestly see much competition for dust on pc planet side two wont be competition on pc arma 3 is another world compared to dust eve is already on pc
pc master race
PORT IT CCP
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2015.11.08 01:41:00 -
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Shooters wouldn't be the game's only competition on PC by a long shot. It would theoretically be in competition with every other free-to-play game regardless of genre.
How has everyone forgotten that the original mission of this game was to bring console gamers into the world of EVE Online? That's the whole point of this game existing.
If you take that away, what's left of the original vision?
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.08 01:47:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Shooters wouldn't be the game's only competition on PC by a long shot. It would theoretically be in competition with every other free-to-play game regardless of genre.
How has everyone forgotten that the original mission of this game was to bring console gamers into the world of EVE Online? That's the whole point of this game existing.
If you take that away, what's left of the original vision?
Wrecking **** on planets and causing a citadel to blow up by a plant and watch its parts float towards the planet into the atmosphere making it a place to salvage equipment then get a eve player to send down a mcc with your team in it and set up a thing for it to be floated into a mcc and picked up by a eve player that then will sell the parts and share profit with the mercenaries who did the job for that person. All while on PC is me dream....
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1
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Posted - 2015.11.08 01:54:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:
It doesn't take much imaging the bigger playerbase active on PC also if it was on PC eve players wouldn't have to buy a ps4 to try it .
Stop trying to deny my 4k burning trees in the future with 4k orbitals dropping down as my eyes melt in glorious graphics
#PRAISETHEBURNINGTREES
Let me ask you something.
Have you ever heard of minecraft?
It started on PC,but when ported to consoles it sold more than 54m as opposed to 17m on PCs.
Reference.
How about rocket league?
Popular because of PSN.
Reference.
Now imagine if Dust could be put up as a "free" game (and by free i mean get a free ps plus starter kit).
I'd bet the same popularity would arise,providing PvE is in with a survival mode of some sort.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.08 01:59:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Golden Day wrote:
It doesn't take much imaging the bigger playerbase active on PC also if it was on PC eve players wouldn't have to buy a ps4 to try it .
Stop trying to deny my 4k burning trees in the future with 4k orbitals dropping down as my eyes melt in glorious graphics
#PRAISETHEBURNINGTREES
Let me ask you something. Have you ever heard of minecraft? It started on PC,but when ported to consoles it sold more than 54m as opposed to 17m on PCs. Reference.How about rocket league? Popular because of PSN. Reference.Now imagine if Dust could be put up as a "free" game (and by free i mean get a free ps plus starter kit). I'd bet the same popularity would arise,providing PvE is in with a survival mode of some sort.
The ONLY way I'd agree for legion/dust on ps4 is if 1.no limitations for ccp updates 2. No aim support 3. The ps4 didn't have a lifespan.
Also the only reason Minecraft sold that much is some ****** minecraft youtuber who would yell squid and butter I'd rather watch pewdiepie than melt my brain with some ******* idiot YouTuber
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1
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Posted - 2015.11.08 02:03:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Meee One wrote:Golden Day wrote:
It doesn't take much imaging the bigger playerbase active on PC also if it was on PC eve players wouldn't have to buy a ps4 to try it .
Stop trying to deny my 4k burning trees in the future with 4k orbitals dropping down as my eyes melt in glorious graphics
#PRAISETHEBURNINGTREES
Let me ask you something. Have you ever heard of minecraft? It started on PC,but when ported to consoles it sold more than 54m as opposed to 17m on PCs. Reference.How about rocket league? Popular because of PSN. Reference.Now imagine if Dust could be put up as a "free" game (and by free i mean get a free ps plus starter kit). I'd bet the same popularity would arise,providing PvE is in with a survival mode of some sort. The ONLY way I'd agree for legion/dust on ps4 is if 1.no limitations for ccp updates 2. No aim support 3. The ps4 didn't have a lifespan.
1.Limitations are only there to prevent Sony from distributing viruses.
2.Fine,no mouse and keyboard support either.
3.Since most ways to game are essentially streaming nowadays,internal processing isn't as essential. (The ps4 may be the last.)
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1
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Posted - 2015.11.08 02:07:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Meee One wrote:Golden Day wrote:
It doesn't take much imaging the bigger playerbase active on PC also if it was on PC eve players wouldn't have to buy a ps4 to try it .
Stop trying to deny my 4k burning trees in the future with 4k orbitals dropping down as my eyes melt in glorious graphics
#PRAISETHEBURNINGTREES
Let me ask you something. Have you ever heard of minecraft? It started on PC,but when ported to consoles it sold more than 54m as opposed to 17m on PCs. Reference.How about rocket league? Popular because of PSN. Reference.Now imagine if Dust could be put up as a "free" game (and by free i mean get a free ps plus starter kit). I'd bet the same popularity would arise,providing PvE is in with a survival mode of some sort. Also the only reason Minecraft sold that much is some ****** minecraft youtuber who would yell squid and butter I'd rather watch pewdiepie than melt my brain with some ******* idiot YouTuber
>rather watch pewdiepie than melt my brain with some ** idiot YouTuber.
>pewdiepie is an ** idiot YouTuber
>melt my brain watching pewdiepie
Lol,you sure are confused aren't you?
Also,i wasn't talking about skydoesminecraft i was talking about sales.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.08 02:19:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Golden Day wrote:Meee One wrote:Golden Day wrote:
It doesn't take much imaging the bigger playerbase active on PC also if it was on PC eve players wouldn't have to buy a ps4 to try it .
Stop trying to deny my 4k burning trees in the future with 4k orbitals dropping down as my eyes melt in glorious graphics
#PRAISETHEBURNINGTREES
Let me ask you something. Have you ever heard of minecraft? It started on PC,but when ported to consoles it sold more than 54m as opposed to 17m on PCs. Reference.How about rocket league? Popular because of PSN. Reference.Now imagine if Dust could be put up as a "free" game (and by free i mean get a free ps plus starter kit). I'd bet the same popularity would arise,providing PvE is in with a survival mode of some sort. Also the only reason Minecraft sold that much is some ****** minecraft youtuber who would yell squid and butter I'd rather watch pewdiepie than melt my brain with some ******* idiot YouTuber >rather watch pewdiepie than melt my brain with some ** idiot YouTuber. >pewdiepie is an ** idiot YouTuber >melt my brain watching pewdiepie Lol,you sure are confused aren't you? Also,i wasn't talking about skydoesminecraft i was talking about sales.
Skydoesminecraft is more horrible than pewdiepe. Minecrafts popularity came from his YouTube channel showing Mods.
I'm sure many kids were disappointed when they found out they couldn't mod their Minecraft.
I played Minecraft on pc since 2012 it was hard finding mumble servers that wasn't filled with 12 year olds yelling "STOP GRIEFING ME WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU [Insert racist slur here]!" And I'd get banned from those servers for constantly spawn killing them for being annoying brats.
SDM attracted all the horrible 12 year olds is what I'm trying to I know its off topic but my god they are annoying...
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1
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Posted - 2015.11.08 02:25:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Meee One wrote:Golden Day wrote:Meee One wrote:Golden Day wrote:
It doesn't take much imaging the bigger playerbase active on PC also if it was on PC eve players wouldn't have to buy a ps4 to try it .
Stop trying to deny my 4k burning trees in the future with 4k orbitals dropping down as my eyes melt in glorious graphics
#PRAISETHEBURNINGTREES
Let me ask you something. Have you ever heard of minecraft? It started on PC,but when ported to consoles it sold more than 54m as opposed to 17m on PCs. Reference.How about rocket league? Popular because of PSN. Reference.Now imagine if Dust could be put up as a "free" game (and by free i mean get a free ps plus starter kit). I'd bet the same popularity would arise,providing PvE is in with a survival mode of some sort. Also the only reason Minecraft sold that much is some ****** minecraft youtuber who would yell squid and butter I'd rather watch pewdiepie than melt my brain with some ******* idiot YouTuber >rather watch pewdiepie than melt my brain with some ** idiot YouTuber. >pewdiepie is an ** idiot YouTuber >melt my brain watching pewdiepie Lol,you sure are confused aren't you? Also,i wasn't talking about skydoesminecraft i was talking about sales. Skydoesminecraft is more horrible than pewdiepe. Minecrafts popularity came from his YouTube channel showing Mods. I'm sure many kids were disappointed when they found out they couldn't mod their Minecraft. I played Minecraft on pc since 2012 it was hard finding mumble servers that wasn't filled with 12 year olds yelling "STOP GRIEFING ME WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU [Insert racist slur here]!" And I'd get banned from those servers for constantly spawn killing them for being annoying brats. SDM attracted all the horrible 12 year olds is what I'm trying to I know its off topic but my god they are annoying...
But didn't those 12yo's get someone to pay for the game?
CCP doesn't run on sunshine and rainbows.
Imagine if they moved to Dust.
You could mute them AND spawn camp them as they invest in Dusts' future trying to beat you.
Win+Win
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.08 02:38:00 -
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Yeah if they moved Dust to PC when lots of planets and mechanics the ps4 couldn't handle
Rewatch this http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uuwa6DOtRfE
Now imagine the epic possibilities playing this on PC
Now imagine roaming planets with Mining vehicles
Now imagine Planetary conquest on PC with the ability to actually visit your structures on that planet with almost real time raiding.
Such fun is to be had.
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.08 19:01:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Yeah if they moved Dust to PC when lots of planets and mechanics the ps4 couldn't handle Rewatch this http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uuwa6DOtRfENow imagine the epic possibilities playing this on PC Now imagine roaming planets with Mining vehicles Now imagine Planetary conquest on PC with the ability to actually visit your structures on that planet with almost real time raiding. Such fun is to be had.
Now that's interesting, I haven't seen any other gameplay other than the demo they showed at fanfest 2014.
Honestly though PC is the best option if you don't want to be limited to some box for 4 or 5 years BUT it's way to late to make this a PC exclusive. There are plenty of console only guys here that have stuck with this game and CCP's shite for so long and have even put plenty of $$ into CCP's wallet. Abandoning them would make the gamer side of me hate CCP even more and probably not even bother with any of their products and move onto Star Citizen.
PC+PS4
Time since Legion News
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DiablosMajora
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Posted - 2015.11.08 19:18:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.
Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.
Have you seen this?
Prepare your angus
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
21
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Posted - 2015.11.08 19:20:00 -
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I hope by the time I give birth to Kagehoshi and my Amarr-Minmatar halfbreed babies that they can play this glorious re-envisioning of Dust 514.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.11.08 19:39:00 -
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would resetting everything in Dust even help Dust?
'A man can have anything if he is willing to sacrifice.' -The MatchMaker
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.11.09 01:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I hope by the time I give birth to Kagehoshi and my Amarr-Minmatar halfbreed babies that they can play this glorious re-envisioning of Dust 514.
No your children wont but your grandchildren may start to see bits of progress and announcements at the most in their lifetime.
Time since Legion News
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
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Posted - 2015.11.09 08:25:00 -
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Since we're keeping this thread alive, here's some footage of my favourite map of all time... The ORIGINAL Manus Peak.
https://youtu.be/sdruYmznWjE
añ¼añ+añ¦-añ¬añ+añƒañ¦-añÿañ¿añ+añ+añ¦-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ
"Baal comes...and destruction follows him like a storm."
añ¿añ+añ¦añ¿aÑìaññañ¦añ+añ¿aÑìañºañòañ+añ¦añ+aññ-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ-añ¦añ¦añÖaÑìañù
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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.11.09 08:26:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Since we're keeping this thread alive, here's some footage of my favourite map of all time... The ORIGINAL Manus Peak. https://youtu.be/sdruYmznWjE
I miss real manus peak
and crater lake
Because beer, that's why.
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.11.09 14:30:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Since we're keeping this thread alive, here's some footage of my favourite map of all time... The ORIGINAL Manus Peak. https://youtu.be/sdruYmznWjE I miss real manus peak and crater lake
Same
Time since Legion News
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Clotheshanger Abortion
Y0UTHINASIA
101
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Posted - 2015.11.09 15:00:00 -
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Kagehoshi for CPM3
"Excuse me while I kiss this guy..."
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.11.23 00:29:00 -
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Clotheshanger Abortion wrote:Kagehoshi for CPM3
Thanks 
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.11.23 01:02:00 -
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I demand if a Tash-Murkon Empress is chosen that the delightfully insightful Vherokior Shaman known as Kagehoshi elope with me so we can live in the Empire together while CCP takes their time following these suggestions to the letter.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12
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Posted - 2015.11.24 22:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I demand if a Tash-Murkon Empress is chosen that the delightfully insightful Vherokior Shaman known as Kagehoshi elope with me so we can live in the Empire together while CCP takes their time following these suggestions to the letter.
Sebiestor, not Vherokior (corrected you at least once before), but considering it.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.24 22:17:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:I demand if a Tash-Murkon Empress is chosen that the delightfully insightful Vherokior Shaman known as Kagehoshi elope with me so we can live in the Empire together while CCP takes their time following these suggestions to the letter. Sebiestor, not Vherokior (corrected you at least once before), but considering it.
Sebiestor shaman..nah..we have techpriests ;p
"Dear Santa i want jackknife pick."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.11.24 22:19:00 -
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How about this:
At level 2 and 4 of a Weapon's/Suit's operation skill, you get a few extra cores of the tier below it, in addition to a few cores of the tier above it.
This not only makes tiers 2 and 4 feel like less of a stepping stone, but it also dangles a carrot in front of players to continue upgrading their selected weapon since they have a higher tier core they can't use.
Tier 1 50 STD,
Tier 2 20 STD + 10 ADV
Tier 3 15 ADV
Tier 4 10 ADV + 3 PRO
Tier 5 5 PRO
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.11.24 22:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:How about this:
At level 2 and 4 of a Weapon's/Suit's operation skill, you get a few extra cores of the tier below it, in addition to a few cores of the tier above it.
This not only makes tiers 2 and 4 feel like less of a stepping stone, but it also dangles a carrot in front of players to continue upgrading their selected weapon since they have a higher tier core they can't use.
Tier 1 50 STD,
Tier 2 20 STD + 10 ADV
Tier 3 15 ADV
Tier 4 10 ADV + 3 PRO
Tier 5 5 PRO
Approved
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.24 22:37:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:How about this:
At level 2 and 4 of a Weapon's/Suit's operation skill, you get a few extra cores of the tier below it, in addition to a few cores of the tier above it.
This not only makes tiers 2 and 4 feel like less of a stepping stone, but it also dangles a carrot in front of players to continue upgrading their selected weapon since they have a higher tier core they can't use.
Tier 1 50 STD,
Tier 2 20 STD + 10 ADV
Tier 3 15 ADV
Tier 4 10 ADV + 3 PRO
Tier 5 5 PRO
This is actually interesting idea.
Boyko put it in ideas, this can be good thingy ;)
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One Scavenging Survivalist
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2016.02.10 21:51:00 -
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Hopefully the next incarnation will do these things.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
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Posted - 2016.02.10 22:20:00 -
[106] - Quote
Just read them again and all of them are amazing ideas. Seeing as rattati reacted, CCP will probably include most of them as they are building the game from scratch ^^
Game over.
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