DUST Search - Rebuilding Dust 514 For The Future

Vell0cet wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices.

Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular.

I obviously have no idea how much CCP earns from disposable AUR gear, but I've spent hundreds of dollars on this game and have never bought any of it. I would buy AUR that could be converted to ISK in the same way that you can buy PLEX in EVE to convert to ISK. If you could add this mechanism to DUST in a convenient/prominent way (ideally with a pseudo supply/demand curve set by CCP that allows the ISK price to fluctuate based on demand) possibly via boosters.

With this mechanism in place we could delete all disposable AUR gear from the database (BPO's, Skins, etc. would remain), migrate existing stuff to the ISK version, and reduce the size of the database by a lot. Next unlock all tiers of gear at level 1 of a skill. This would create several benefits:
1. I'm pretty sure this would result in increased revenue for CCP.
2. Radically simplifies the NPE. There is plenty of stuff to figure out in this game, and the new player grokking just how the payment model works is another layer of unnecessary complexity. If a new player incorrectly concludes they have to pay real money to use certain items most will be turned off and leave. There are several ways that the current system can confuse new players on this point (e.g. the defender suits and the progression tab).
3. It makes having a limited number of available fits much less punishing. A main reason I don't use disposable AUR gear (even when I salvage it for free) is because I have to create separate fits for it. When I die in battle and need to restock, I may forget and accidentally waste AUR on it. It's just a crappy experience.
4. I suspect it will improve the performance, as it allows you guys to delete tons of stuff from the database.
5. With a smaller database, doing updates via the dev team would be much simpler because there is less stuff to change/test.
6. Did I mention this would probably INCREASE REVENUE?

Also, welcome back. I hope you enjoyed your much-deserved vacation. I also hope you got a much-deserved raise!

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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui MeatBag Disposal Service LOGISTICS 2	Posted - 2015.08.24 05:40:00 - [31] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: This is why Kagehoshi is Best Poster. I've always felt like this , he's one of my Dust Hero's. Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Terry Webber Molon Labe. RUST415 841	Posted - 2015.08.24 05:44:00 - [32] - Quote Agent Overkill wrote: There should be a codex of categorized information that should always be kept up-to-date somewhere. For example: there should be a damage profile topic that shows how the types of weapons perform against shield and armor, and under that a button to expand it showing all weapons neatly nested under the correct type. There should be a tab showing a weapon's damage profile and above the description it should state that type. There should be levels of tutorials (basic, intermediate, and advanced) that feed players info and guide them through parts of the game. Players should be rewarded for completing these. [Basic tutorials]: Player must walk, sprint, crouch, and jump. Player must fire, aim down sights, throw a grenade, fast switch weapons, and switch to equipment. [Intermediate tutorials]: Walk/run away from a grenade indicator Reward: 5x Standard grenades of all types. (locus, flux, etc) There are several cloaked drones around the player. Have a cloaked drone shoot, then face it by following the damage indicator, and shoot it. Create a squad & Set squad orders. [Advanced]: Player spawns with a dropsuit with a scrambler rifle & massdriver. Objective is to Remove targets' shields with scrambler then their armor with a massdriver to kill them. The target will have high shield and armor HP. Player is required to spawn in with a suit without codebreakers. Objective: Hack two points, go to the supply depot next to it, switch to a fit with a complex codebreaker and hack two points. Reward: 20 standard, 10 advanced, & 5 Prototype codebreakers. I like this idea. In-game game lore could explain them as your NPC corporation's boot camp. Inertial Booster Module Vehicle Installation

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 26	Posted - 2015.08.24 13:03:00 - [33] - Quote If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution 6	Posted - 2015.08.24 13:07:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. So modular weapons, then? Following the proposed system of attaching the cost of the asset to the powercore it uses? I like that idea, and it'd lead to some really neat variety of weapons used in matches. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Jared Fogle Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.08.24 13:15:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. So you would support wiping isk, assets, and SP? Wut kinda devil are you?
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.08.24 13:28:00 - [36] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. Does that means powercores are currently not feasible or just taking waaaay too much damm time? 'As salty as salt can get.' how I describe the dust player base.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.08.24 13:51:00 - [37] - Quote This is pretty much a textbook example of a solid wish list for the future. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations 3	Posted - 2015.08.24 13:53:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. I obviously have no idea how much CCP earns from disposable AUR gear, but I've spent hundreds of dollars on this game and have never bought any of it. I would buy AUR that could be converted to ISK in the same way that you can buy PLEX in EVE to convert to ISK. If you could add this mechanism to DUST in a convenient/prominent way (ideally with a pseudo supply/demand curve set by CCP that allows the ISK price to fluctuate based on demand) possibly via boosters. With this mechanism in place we could delete all disposable AUR gear from the database (BPO's, Skins, etc. would remain), migrate existing stuff to the ISK version, and reduce the size of the database by a lot. Next unlock all tiers of gear at level 1 of a skill. This would create several benefits: 1. I'm pretty sure this would result in increased revenue for CCP. 2. Radically simplifies the NPE. There is plenty of stuff to figure out in this game, and the new player grokking just how the payment model works is another layer of unnecessary complexity. If a new player incorrectly concludes they have to pay real money to use certain items most will be turned off and leave. There are several ways that the current system can confuse new players on this point (e.g. the defender suits and the progression tab). 3. It makes having a limited number of available fits much less punishing. A main reason I don't use disposable AUR gear (even when I salvage it for free) is because I have to create separate fits for it. When I die in battle and need to restock, I may forget and accidentally waste AUR on it. It's just a crappy experience. 4. I suspect it will improve the performance, as it allows you guys to delete tons of stuff from the database. 5. With a smaller database, doing updates via the dev team would be much simpler because there is less stuff to change/test. 6. Did I mention this would probably INCREASE REVENUE? Also, welcome back. I hope you enjoyed your much-deserved vacation. I also hope you got a much-deserved raise! Best PvE idea ever!
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 18	Posted - 2015.08.24 13:55:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
DJINN RamMyAssge Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 13:58:00 - [40] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. I obviously have no idea how much CCP earns from disposable AUR gear, but I've spent hundreds of dollars on this game and have never bought any of it. I would buy AUR that could be converted to ISK in the same way that you can buy PLEX in EVE to convert to ISK. If you could add this mechanism to DUST in a convenient/prominent way (ideally with a pseudo supply/demand curve set by CCP that allows the ISK price to fluctuate based on demand) possibly via boosters. With this mechanism in place we could delete all disposable AUR gear from the database (BPO's, Skins, etc. would remain), migrate existing stuff to the ISK version, and reduce the size of the database by a lot. Next unlock all tiers of gear at level 1 of a skill. This would create several benefits: 1. I'm pretty sure this would result in increased revenue for CCP. 2. Radically simplifies the NPE. There is plenty of stuff to figure out in this game, and the new player grokking just how the payment model works is another layer of unnecessary complexity. If a new player incorrectly concludes they have to pay real money to use certain items most will be turned off and leave. There are several ways that the current system can confuse new players on this point (e.g. the defender suits and the progression tab). 3. It makes having a limited number of available fits much less punishing. A main reason I don't use disposable AUR gear (even when I salvage it for free) is because I have to create separate fits for it. When I die in battle and need to restock, I may forget and accidentally waste AUR on it. It's just a crappy experience. 4. I suspect it will improve the performance, as it allows you guys to delete tons of stuff from the database. 5. With a smaller database, doing updates via the dev team would be much simpler because there is less stuff to change/test. 6. Did I mention this would probably INCREASE REVENUE? Also, welcome back. I hope you enjoyed your much-deserved vacation. I also hope you got a much-deserved raise! Very good ideas. You had me at hello, handsome.

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.08.24 13:58:00 - [41] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 Seconded. Rattati, please convince CCP Rouge to push the Dust port from 2045 to 2016 or so. @Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 18	Posted - 2015.08.24 14:03:00 - [42] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 Seconded. Rattati, please convince CCP Rouge to push the Dust port from 2045 to 2016 or so. Just AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 26	Posted - 2015.08.24 14:34:00 - [43] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 Seconded. Rattati, please convince CCP Rouge to push the Dust port from 2045 to 2016 or so. Just I just realized shia has a braided ponytail...i never saw that before in my multiple prior cringe-watchings. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 18	Posted - 2015.08.24 14:39:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 Seconded. Rattati, please convince CCP Rouge to push the Dust port from 2045 to 2016 or so. Just I just realized shia has a braided ponytail...i never saw that before in my multiple prior cringe-watchings. Ponytails confirmed for DUST x86 AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.08.24 14:40:00 - [45] - Quote Yet another reason to believe he's gone around the bend WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
howard sanchez Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 15:01:00 - [46] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: This is pretty much a textbook example of a solid wish list for the future. Is there a future? Is there?!
Falling Sunset Standby Retaliation 6	Posted - 2015.08.24 15:12:00 - [47] - Quote Dust it's not even the half of what it used to be... Just like love...
Jared Fogle Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.08.24 15:15:00 - [48] - Quote Falling Sunset wrote: Dust it's not even the half of what it used to be... Just like love... Maybe we could find love again? You wanna go get a 6 incher with me? I mean subway of course.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2015.08.24 15:15:00 - [49] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. DUST x86 Dust x86 take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2015.08.24 15:17:00 - [50] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. Subliminal message ^. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]

Falling Sunset Standby Retaliation 6	Posted - 2015.08.24 15:18:00 - [51] - Quote Jared Fogle wrote: Falling Sunset wrote: Dust it's not even the half of what it used to be... Just like love... Maybe we could find love again? You wanna go get a 6 incher with me? I mean subway of course. Glad to.. There's an old Saying in Texas.. You Ride The Horse Till is Dead..
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2015.08.24 15:26:00 - [52] - Quote Falling Sunset wrote: Jared Fogle wrote: Falling Sunset wrote: Dust it's not even the half of what it used to be... Just like love... Maybe we could find love again? You wanna go get a 6 incher with me? I mean subway of course. Glad to.. There's an old Saying in Texas.. You Ride The Horse Till is Dead.. Spes ultima dea take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.08.24 20:03:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: If I had the chance to reset the DUST 514 progression and economy, many of these would be my choices. Dropsuit and weapon BPO's with powercores, skins and modules in particular. Yay! Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.08.24 21:49:00 - [54] - Quote I also came to a conclusion that skill books are unnecessary. Their function as isk sink for the economy can be done by each level of skills costing 1/5 of the original book cost (in addition to normal SP cost, d'oh) Thanks for all the supporters. 07 KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Piercing Serenity Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 22:00:00 - [55] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: I also came to a conclusion that skill books are unnecessary. Their function as isk sink for the economy can be done by each level of skills costing 1/5 of the original book cost (in addition to normal SP cost, d'oh) I think skill books are fine. If they could be traded, it would allow people to develop skill book libraries or "skill packages" to give to new players for free. If the ISK cost was wrapped up in the skill purchase, it would be much harder (logistically) to get a new player set up in the way his or her corp wanted them to be "For people who don't really do S**T, ya'll really doing the most" Lv. 1 Forum Warrior
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 581	Posted - 2015.08.24 23:26:00 - [56] - Quote I've played through the actual resets. Full wipe, start over. If I could get vouchers to reclaim my skins I would take a reset. It's the only way at this point. So many good ideas held back by loud voices. Voices that caused the current state of things. Slit the throats and bleed out the ones who need to go. Keep the cross-platform dream alive. Rebuild with these ideas. I've been working with udk on a dust clone. If I can get as far as I have... You guys can do it no problem. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.24 23:54:00 - [57] - Quote If it is rebuilt I hope it isn't completely simplified. I rather like the complexities of the game. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
CallMeNoName Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 14	Posted - 2015.08.25 01:38:00 - [58] - Quote One day, maybe just ONE DAY, Game Jesus will have descended upon this game, and touched it with it's love. Maybe.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 26	Posted - 2015.08.25 02:41:00 - [59] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Ponytails confirmed for DUST x86 Literal and figurative ROFL "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 26	Posted - 2015.08.25 02:41:00 - [60] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: I also came to a conclusion that skill books are unnecessary. Their function as isk sink for the economy can be done by each level of skills costing 1/5 of the original book cost (in addition to normal SP cost, d'oh) Agreed "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"




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