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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.08 12:10:00 -
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PC 2.0 has opened the way for ALL Corps to become PC active... By either creating, allying or joining Corps set to attack, all mercs can get involved
Last night muliple raids were launched at landholding Corps keeping them ran ragged for DMG And I have to salute the mercs involved '07' as mercs from all TZ's took part with no gain bar getting some fights There is life left in MH, more players need to become part of this and not by sending an app to one of the blobs..
But by joining smaller Corps and getting them fighting, add more groups to the game to add more fights.
I recently watched a YT vid of DMG V 0.H in a PC battle.. we lost out *big shocker* but that wasn't the worst part.. The 0.H team hit the Victory screen and there wasn't the slightest bit of surprise or joy in their WIN. - And it's not really surprising. In Dusts dead stage there are no teams big enough to fight them..
RGZ are but they made pretty friendship rings and don't look like dropping them N-F / PG / AoU / FA have the players that can contest them, but they keep to themselves
While too many Vet players want to sit about, farm profit and avoid tough battles, when they could be right in front of you.
MH need more fights, I am glad to help Corps that want to enter into them so get in touch in-game.. For those more cowardly, don't worry RGZ hide behind ROFL+0.H apply there for PC in a noob friendly environment
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
12
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Posted - 2015.08.08 12:39:00 -
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Eh, it isn't so much that we keep to ourselves so much as actively hunt targets that we know don't have enough people to defend their districts because we feel that if you can't defend it with your own people you don't deserve it. Dustcharts.com comes in handy for this as it displays districts owned by corporations and how many members each corporation has. So, if we see a district belonging to "Fuzzy's Fuzzleshack" and Fuzzy only has 11 people in his corporation, you can almost guarantee that they're just holding onto the district to farm it for DK. Soooo we confiscate it, sell it to someone that'll actually nurture it and wants to get into PC.
I'm always down for a PC and while I used to ask for payment, now it's sort of like... meh? I'm ISK stable even running proto at all times so, not like it's any skin off my back... I'll ring for anyone as long as it's not against NF and that's just a corp policy, lol.
Aeon Amadi for CPM 2
Design A SKIN 2
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jonny battles
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
112
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Posted - 2015.08.08 12:46:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:PC 2.0 has opened the way for ALL Corps to become PC active... By either creating, allying or joining Corps set to attack, all mercs can get involved Last night muliple raids were launched at landholding Corps keeping them ran ragged for DMG And I have to salute the mercs involved '07' as mercs from all TZ's took part with no gain bar getting some fights There is life left in MH, more players need to become part of this and not by sending an app to one of the blobs.. But by joining smaller Corps and getting them fighting, add more groups to the game to add more fights. I recently watched a YT vid of DMG V 0.H in a PC battle.. we lost out *big shocker* but that wasn't the worst part.. The 0.H team hit the Victory screen and there wasn't the slightest bit of surprise or joy in their WIN. - And it's not really surprising. In Dusts dead stage there are no teams big enough to fight them.. RGZ are but they made pretty friendship rings and don't look like dropping them N-F / PG / AoU / FA have the players that can contest them, but they keep to themselves While too many Vet players want to sit about, farm profit and avoid tough battles, when they could be right in front of you. MH need more fights, I am glad to help Corps that want to enter into them so get in touch in-game.. For those more cowardly, don't worry RGZ hide behind ROFL+0.H apply there for PC in a noob friendly environment
Lol we hide behind them? 95% of the time we bring 16 random gunz besides last night I don't remember the last time we used ringers. But if we're such coward's why did you guys have to mass attack us to get a single district and where the cowards?
It was just that easy
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demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.08 12:49:00 -
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When Aeon says "sell", he means give. I have given away 2 districts in the past 2 weeks with the promise of help if they are attacked by the actual bully corps. NF has no intention of bullying or taking land from small corps who can field a team... but if you have less than 20 people and can only field ringers, you're just one of the larger corps farming DK for alts and isk for yourself.
If a smaller corp wants in PC and wants a piece of the MH pie, please contact me in game, I will be willing to help.
CPM2 Candidate
Intent to run is found here: Intent
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 13:04:00 -
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jonny battles wrote:TheD1CK wrote:PC 2.0 has opened the way for ALL Corps to become PC active... By either creating, allying or joining Corps set to attack, all mercs can get involved Last night muliple raids were launched at landholding Corps keeping them ran ragged for DMG And I have to salute the mercs involved '07' as mercs from all TZ's took part with no gain bar getting some fights There is life left in MH, more players need to become part of this and not by sending an app to one of the blobs.. But by joining smaller Corps and getting them fighting, add more groups to the game to add more fights. I recently watched a YT vid of DMG V 0.H in a PC battle.. we lost out *big shocker* but that wasn't the worst part.. The 0.H team hit the Victory screen and there wasn't the slightest bit of surprise or joy in their WIN. - And it's not really surprising. In Dusts dead stage there are no teams big enough to fight them.. RGZ are but they made pretty friendship rings and don't look like dropping them N-F / PG / AoU / FA have the players that can contest them, but they keep to themselves While too many Vet players want to sit about, farm profit and avoid tough battles, when they could be right in front of you. MH need more fights, I am glad to help Corps that want to enter into them so get in touch in-game.. For those more cowardly, don't worry RGZ hide behind ROFL+0.H apply there for PC in a noob friendly environment Lol we hide behind them? 95% of the time we bring 16 random gunz besides last night I don't remember the last time we used ringers. But if we're such coward's why did you guys have to mass attack us to get a single district and where the cowards?
Do they keep you on the bench ???
Ask the teams RGZ fight if they use ringers?? or 15 0.H to troll when it suits them... They (you just jumped on the wagon) rose up an underdog to pimp slap the Roman ERA.. Now they sit beside 0.H and openly farm smaller Corps and fight 'friendlies' with the competition..
M.H is a waste pile. Fights will never kick off until the friendship rings are got rid of
I don't want your districts, I may however have some fun making you defend all 20 of them
Trainwreck forum posting prof.5
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 13:08:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:When Aeon says "sell", he means give. I have given away 2 districts in the past 2 weeks with the promise of help if they are attacked by the actual bully corps. NF has no intention of bullying or taking land from small corps who can field a team... but if you have less than 20 people and can only field ringers, you're just one of the larger corps farming DK for alts and isk for yourself.
If a smaller corp wants in PC and wants a piece of the MH pie, please contact me in game, I will be willing to help.
Good news.
As a merc who has given Districts and time to see that Corps get into MH, this is needed.
WITHOUT COSTS.
The game is not the ISK fountain it used to be for a lot of players, new blood cannot pay those costs for land, ringers Or having back-up teams, what they need is support.. who better for that than the Vets we have left to help them out
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
616
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Posted - 2015.08.08 13:35:00 -
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Ask the teams RGZ fight if they use ringers?? or 15 0.H to troll when it suits them... Suits us =ƒÿä People cannot always be on for pc's, as people have real lifes. So on the odd occasion we bring help in, couple of guys from another corp that's bad . Almost all of my pc's with random gunz have been with a full team of us
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jonny battles
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
114
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Posted - 2015.08.08 13:41:00 -
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OK d1ck what your saying is that we should disband every alliance in the game? That so people can have no ally and just panic merge instead? What will that fix?
It was just that easy
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 14:46:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Ask the teams RGZ fight if they use ringers?? or 15 0.H to troll when it suits them... Suits us =ƒÿä People cannot always be on for pc's, as people have real lifes. So on the odd occasion we bring help in, couple of guys from another corp that's bad . Almost all of my pc's with random gunz have been with a full team of us
Considering the daily recruitment spam.. that's hardly an achievement.
And yes jonny.. that is exactly what I am saying...
All alliances should be part of FIGHTING.. not sitting about wasting land that could be used for fights. The % of MH land unusable because so many are butt-buddies is depressing.. HTFU and attack each other
If not, events like 'The Random Bumming' will need to become a lot more common.
Trainwreck forum posting prof.5
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 14:48:00 -
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jonny battles wrote:OK d1ck what your saying is that we should disband every alliance in the game? That so people can have no ally and just panic merge instead? What will that fix?
C'mon.. every team in MH knows.. RG speed dial 0.H in danger as a back-up... Only after they are busy do you even use your own allies, so it's hardly that important to you
and lolpanicmerge.. how is recruiting every left over you can find anything different??
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Sorry I am too busy to come to the phone right now, I am actually playing the game.
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jonny battles
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
116
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Posted - 2015.08.08 15:25:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:jonny battles wrote:OK d1ck what your saying is that we should disband every alliance in the game? That so people can have no ally and just panic merge instead? What will that fix? C'mon.. every team in MH knows.. RG speed dial 0.H in danger as a back-up... Only after they are busy do you even use your own allies, so it's hardly that important to you and lolpanicmerge.. how is recruiting every left over you can find anything different??
Ok your not completely wrong but if oh and rgz panic merge what will thatt fix bcuz that what's it's going to come down to
It was just that easy
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 15:32:00 -
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jonny battles wrote:TheD1CK wrote:jonny battles wrote:OK d1ck what your saying is that we should disband every alliance in the game? That so people can have no ally and just panic merge instead? What will that fix? C'mon.. every team in MH knows.. RG speed dial 0.H in danger as a back-up... Only after they are busy do you even use your own allies, so it's hardly that important to you and lolpanicmerge.. how is recruiting every left over you can find anything different?? Ok your not completely wrong but if oh and rgz panic merge what will that fix and then people be like can't beat them join them
Because that is not exactly how it stands already ???
RG+0.H have assisted each other as long as I've seen PC, at this stage you may as well have merged. And why not ?? there is barely a Corp that can fight one of you, putting them together guarantees EZ PC
'Can't beat em, join em' May as well be the motto for competetive play around here
Which I don't get and hopefully never will, though it is hassle.. beating the best > hiding behind them
Trainwreck forum posting prof.5
Sorry I am too busy to come to the phone right now, I am actually playing the game.
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jonny battles
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
116
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Posted - 2015.08.08 15:38:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:jonny battles wrote:TheD1CK wrote:jonny battles wrote:OK d1ck what your saying is that we should disband every alliance in the game? That so people can have no ally and just panic merge instead? What will that fix? C'mon.. every team in MH knows.. RG speed dial 0.H in danger as a back-up... Only after they are busy do you even use your own allies, so it's hardly that important to you and lolpanicmerge.. how is recruiting every left over you can find anything different?? Ok your not completely wrong but if oh and rgz panic merge what will that fix and then people be like can't beat them join them Because that is not exactly how it stands already ??? RG+0.H have assisted each other as long as I've seen PC, at this stage you may as well have merged. And why not ?? there is barely a Corp that can fight one of you, putting them together guarantees EZ PC 'Can't beat em, join em' May as well be the motto for competetive play around here Which I don't get and hopefully never will, though it is hassle.. beating the best > hiding behind them
Trust me ik where your coming from but the fact is O.H and RGZ are using there own players 95% percent of the time so why does it matter every so often they ask for help. This what this thread is right? Asking anybody if they want help fighting?
It was just that easy
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Sgt Kirk
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.08.08 15:43:00 -
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I'm just in it for the ISK
-A vote for me is a vote for us
You can vote for CPM 2 [here]
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
12
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Posted - 2015.08.08 16:02:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I'm just in it for the ISK
Yeeeh, same, but yanno in retrospect I haven't made much ISK out of this whole deal...
Aeon Amadi for CPM 2
Design A SKIN 2
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Artemis Hyde
Vader's-Fist
35
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Posted - 2015.08.08 16:06:00 -
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Molden Heath will burn and all will be crushed beneath the weight of Vader's-Fist. |
Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
12
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Posted - 2015.08.08 16:08:00 -
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Artemis Hyde wrote:Molden Heath will burn and all will be crushed beneath the weight of Vader's-Fist.
If we cared, we'd let you know.
Aeon Amadi for CPM 2
Design A SKIN 2
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
832
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Posted - 2015.08.08 16:11:00 -
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Overall we might keep to ourselves but there are individuals like me that are willing to shove a particle cannon up their asses so far that they will be coughing up rails.
ALL HAIL MAXSON!!
Multi-role Tanker
Tanks and turrets supplied by Caldari Steel and Ishukone!!
For The State!!
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 16:31:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I'm just in it for the ISK
Why?
So you can be richer than the other 10 people who'll end up being what's left here?
I'm just in it for the fights, at some stage I have shot for/at every Corp active in the game, a lot of that time spent with some of my own rag-tag clan of bandits who are an awesome mix of players, and a lot of them are damn good at what they do.. because I took the chance, and brought them to fights, from Vet to NPC corps, if it's red we try to kill it
Added to that, I have dragged DMG mercs to fight for a lot of fresh blood in PC, offering mercs, unwanted advice, insults and if the team was going nowhere I would just take of over and try to lead it myself and as many times as I've died for it.. I have brought as many teams with sh!t odds to win battles... For the sake of getting more fights.
I've seen ringers, way too many fight for ISK and a stomp.. faced with a fight the RQ QQ LAG battle begins.
A merc that wants to fight someone is worth 10x more to a team than one that wants to get paid.
Currently in MH a Top active fighting Corp can make use of about 10 Districts, with this you can afford regular battles, gain profit and have a stock of clones. At this you have a good total and add to fights, smaller Corps aiming for 5 would be ideal, there are the players to do this active on Dust yet we sit in a stale mate because of Alliances, truces, fggts and scrubs that cannot see past their own activity and in most sad cases KDR... but why bother to rant sense at any of you..
CCP left the building.. this community is what we have to game with and it's not looking good.
SOONtm... as we wait for CCP to spoon feed something to fight over Which will not happen.. why add content to be farmed rather than contested??
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Diablo Gamekeeper
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
489
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Posted - 2015.08.08 16:36:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:PC 2.0 has opened the way for ALL Corps to become PC active... By either creating, allying or joining Corps set to attack, all mercs can get involved Last night muliple raids were launched at landholding Corps keeping them ran ragged for DMG And I have to salute the mercs involved '07' as mercs from all TZ's took part with no gain bar getting some fights There is life left in MH, more players need to become part of this and not by sending an app to one of the blobs.. But by joining smaller Corps and getting them fighting, add more groups to the game to add more fights. I recently watched a YT vid of DMG V 0.H in a PC battle.. we lost out *big shocker* but that wasn't the worst part.. The 0.H team hit the Victory screen and there wasn't the slightest bit of surprise or joy in their WIN. - And it's not really surprising. In Dusts dead stage there are no teams big enough to fight them.. RGZ are but they made pretty friendship rings and don't look like dropping them N-F / PG / AoU / FA have the players that can contest them, but they keep to themselves While too many Vet players want to sit about, farm profit and avoid tough battles, when they could be right in front of you. MH need more fights, I am glad to help Corps that want to enter into them so get in touch in-game.. For those more cowardly, don't worry RGZ hide behind ROFL+0.H apply there for PC in a noob friendly environment I only celebrate if it is a win by a half a tick. I still think we should've lost that match.
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Rainbow Dash
I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
12
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Posted - 2015.08.08 16:40:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'm just in it for the ISK Why? So you can be richer than the other 10 people who'll end up being what's left here? I'm just in it for the fights, at some stage I have shot for/at every Corp active in the game, a lot of that time spent with some of my own rag-tag clan of bandits who are an awesome mix of players, and a lot of them are damn good at what they do.. because I took the chance, and brought them to fights, from Vet to NPC corps, if it's red we try to kill it Added to that, I have dragged DMG mercs to fight for a lot of fresh blood in PC, offering mercs, unwanted advice, insults and if the team was going nowhere I would just take of over and try to lead it myself and as many times as I've died for it.. I have brought as many teams with sh!t odds to win battles... For the sake of getting more fights. I've seen ringers, way too many fight for ISK and a stomp.. faced with a fight the RQ QQ LAG battle begins. A merc that wants to fight someone is worth 10x more to a team than one that wants to get paid. Currently in MH a Top active fighting Corp can make use of about 10 Districts, with this you can afford regular battles, gain profit and have a stock of clones. At this you have a good total and add to fights, smaller Corps aiming for 5 would be ideal, there are the players to do this active on Dust yet we sit in a stale mate because of Alliances, truces, fggts and scrubs that cannot see past their own activity and in most sad cases KDR... but why bother to rant sense at any of you.. CCP left the building.. this community is what we have to game with and it's not looking good. SOONtm... as we wait for CCP to spoon feed something to fight over Which will not happen.. why add content to be farmed rather than contested??
To put it simply: We're jaded. There's nothing else to do, really. Lot of veterans have reached a point where we have maxxed out everything even remotely related to our progression choices and are just dumping SP into things we could care less about. The DK market doesn't exist yet and will likely not offer anything we really find valuable. Faction Warfare is a'ight if you want exclusive SKINs and marginally better gear but other then that it's a role-play sort of deal. Pubs offer ISK but not in any great way and not with any real reliability.
So what's left is PC battles and ISK printing, essentially. Stockpiling ISK en masse so that we can run whatever kind of gear we want for what is effectively eternity and use that same ISK to get SKINs and tradeable stuff we don't have yet.
I mean, you're talking to players who have been around since June 2012 and probably even longer on Eve Online. We've already explored everything this game has to offer. Fought on every map, used every weapon, used every dropsuit, every vehicle, every module, every piece of equipment.... Fought every battle that we thought was worth a damn... ISK is really the only thing driving us anymore. This megalomaniac pipe dream that will go on for an infinite amount of time.
But I mean even that's not ike a big priority... Just gives us a reason to do the stupid things we do, gives us a reason to keep playing the game when by all rights we should have quit ages ago.
Aeon Amadi for CPM 2
Design A SKIN 2
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.08.08 17:27:00 -
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Aeon, I'm giving you a like just because of how well written that post was. Not because I agree or feel that way myself. Well written though. |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 17:49:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:Aeon, I'm giving you a like just because of how well written that post was. Not because I agree or feel that way myself. Well written though.
How can you agree with that... CCP have had to build around a game of players encouraged to squeze every last dime out of it rather than just play for the content on offer, offered a sandbox to do what you will and rather than make something you pocket the sand instead... How can CCP be expected to add content to that environment ??
ISK wealth is great.. on a game you can barely find a battle in becasue of that mentality. Many crazy bastards have played the game for just as long, with only the intention of just seeing content progress
The ISK barrier is half of the reason gameplay is screwed, and allows scrubs like me to get a good score...
As much as we complain of CCP, the community they have to work with sucks.
Trainwreck forum posting prof.5
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.08 18:25:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'm just in it for the ISK Why? So you can be richer than the other 10 people who'll end up being what's left here? I'm just in it for the fights, at some stage I have shot for/at every Corp active in the game, a lot of that time spent with some of my own rag-tag clan of bandits who are an awesome mix of players, and a lot of them are damn good at what they do.. because I took the chance, and brought them to fights, from Vet to NPC corps, if it's red we try to kill it Added to that, I have dragged DMG mercs to fight for a lot of fresh blood in PC, offering mercs, unwanted advice, insults and if the team was going nowhere I would just take of over and try to lead it myself and as many times as I've died for it.. I have brought as many teams with sh!t odds to win battles... For the sake of getting more fights. I've seen ringers, way too many fight for ISK and a stomp.. faced with a fight the RQ QQ LAG battle begins. A merc that wants to fight someone is worth 10x more to a team than one that wants to get paid. Currently in MH a Top active fighting Corp can make use of about 10 Districts, with this you can afford regular battles, gain profit and have a stock of clones. At this you have a good total and add to fights, smaller Corps aiming for 5 would be ideal, there are the players to do this active on Dust yet we sit in a stale mate because of Alliances, truces, fggts and scrubs that cannot see past their own activity and in most sad cases KDR... but why bother to rant sense at any of you.. CCP left the building.. this community is what we have to game with and it's not looking good. SOONtm... as we wait for CCP to spoon feed something to fight over Which will not happen.. why add content to be farmed rather than contested?? To put it simply: We're jaded. There's nothing else to do, really. Lot of veterans have reached a point where we have maxxed out everything even remotely related to our progression choices and are just dumping SP into things we could care less about. The DK market doesn't exist yet and will likely not offer anything we really find valuable. Faction Warfare is a'ight if you want exclusive SKINs and marginally better gear but other then that it's a role-play sort of deal. Pubs offer ISK but not in any great way and not with any real reliability. So what's left is PC battles and ISK printing, essentially. Stockpiling ISK en masse so that we can run whatever kind of gear we want for what is effectively eternity and use that same ISK to get SKINs and tradeable stuff we don't have yet. I mean, you're talking to players who have been around since June 2012 and probably even longer on Eve Online. We've already explored everything this game has to offer. Fought on every map, used every weapon, used every dropsuit, every vehicle, every module, every piece of equipment.... Fought every battle that we thought was worth a damn... ISK is really the only thing driving us anymore. This megalomaniac pipe dream that will go on for an infinite amount of time. But I mean even that's not ike a big priority... Just gives us a reason to do the stupid things we do, gives us a reason to keep playing the game when by all rights we should have quit ages ago.
I still feel there is a lot left that could be done yet however. Rattati and his crew are stat tweaking madmen so knowing that, it is possible we can bring in more specialities or sidegrades that we actually want for our role. (I.e + this for - that) This would give us new things we actually want to put SP into. I have had many ideas along these lines but its all a big wait and see with CCP.
How about the DK store, is anything coming of that?
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.08.08 18:39:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'm just in it for the ISK Why? So you can be richer than the other 10 people who'll end up being what's left here? I'm just in it for the fights, at some stage I have shot for/at every Corp active in the game, a lot of that time spent with some of my own rag-tag clan of bandits who are an awesome mix of players, and a lot of them are damn good at what they do.. because I took the chance, and brought them to fights, from Vet to NPC corps, if it's red we try to kill it Added to that, I have dragged DMG mercs to fight for a lot of fresh blood in PC, offering mercs, unwanted advice, insults and if the team was going nowhere I would just take of over and try to lead it myself and as many times as I've died for it.. I have brought as many teams with sh!t odds to win battles... For the sake of getting more fights. I've seen ringers, way too many fight for ISK and a stomp.. faced with a fight the RQ QQ LAG battle begins. A merc that wants to fight someone is worth 10x more to a team than one that wants to get paid. Currently in MH a Top active fighting Corp can make use of about 10 Districts, with this you can afford regular battles, gain profit and have a stock of clones. At this you have a good total and add to fights, smaller Corps aiming for 5 would be ideal, there are the players to do this active on Dust yet we sit in a stale mate because of Alliances, truces, fggts and scrubs that cannot see past their own activity and in most sad cases KDR... but why bother to rant sense at any of you.. CCP left the building.. this community is what we have to game with and it's not looking good. SOONtm... as we wait for CCP to spoon feed something to fight over Which will not happen.. why add content to be farmed rather than contested?? To put it simply: We're jaded. There's nothing else to do, really. Lot of veterans have reached a point where we have maxxed out everything even remotely related to our progression choices and are just dumping SP into things we could care less about. The DK market doesn't exist yet and will likely not offer anything we really find valuable. Faction Warfare is a'ight if you want exclusive SKINs and marginally better gear but other then that it's a role-play sort of deal. Pubs offer ISK but not in any great way and not with any real reliability. So what's left is PC battles and ISK printing, essentially. Stockpiling ISK en masse so that we can run whatever kind of gear we want for what is effectively eternity and use that same ISK to get SKINs and tradeable stuff we don't have yet. I mean, you're talking to players who have been around since June 2012 and probably even longer on Eve Online. We've already explored everything this game has to offer. Fought on every map, used every weapon, used every dropsuit, every vehicle, every module, every piece of equipment.... Fought every battle that we thought was worth a damn... ISK is really the only thing driving us anymore. This megalomaniac pipe dream that will go on for an infinite amount of time. But I mean even that's not ike a big priority... Just gives us a reason to do the stupid things we do, gives us a reason to keep playing the game when by all rights we should have quit ages ago. ^ Do you hear this, CCP Rattati?
It saddens me that elite players like Aeon have become bored with their peaceful and profitable farm lives. I wish there was more we could do to entertain them. If the elite Kumbaya Corps aren't interested in warring with one another, and there's nothing else for them to do but be jaded and print Isk, what harm would be there in introducing Proper Raid Mechanics?
What better way than Proper Raids to keep the wheels of war moving?
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.08 18:44:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:
How can you agree with that... CCP have had to build around a game of players encouraged to squeze every last dime out of it rather than just play for the content on offer, offered a sandbox to do what you will and rather than make something you pocket the sand instead... How can CCP be expected to add content to that environment ??
ISK wealth is great.. on a game you can barely find a battle in becasue of that mentality. Many crazy bastards have played the game for just as long, with only the intention of just seeing content progress
The ISK barrier is half of the reason gameplay is screwed, and allows scrubs like me to get a good score...
As much as we complain of CCP, the community they have to work with sucks.
There's not much sandbox here, though. The sandbox you're speaking of is Politics and some of us just don't care for it. Lot of guys joined Negative-Feedback because we want to make ISK for the sake of making ISK via fighting and not get involved in the he-said-she-said that is PC. We don't really care about any of it, honestly, we just want to fight and make ISK for fighting. Now, some of the higher-ups like Kane and them are excellent at the politicking business but that's largely why they're running the show: So we don't have to.
And as far as content progression we haven't had anything fresh or new in a -long- time, the last major content update was in Uprising 1.8 back in the early days of 2014. That's almost a year and a half ago. From that point forward it's been hotfixes and updates that were largely geared toward newer players with the occasional bone thrown to the veterans but nothing in the line of personal progression, which I'll get to in my response to Bolt here:
CommanderBolt wrote:
I still feel there is a lot left that could be done yet however. Rattati and his crew are stat tweaking madmen so knowing that, it is possible we can bring in more specialities or sidegrades that we actually want for our role. (I.e + this for - that) This would give us new things we actually want to put SP into. I have had many ideas along these lines but its all a big wait and see with CCP.
How about the DK store, is anything coming of that?
What Rattati and his crew have done for Dust 514 goes without saying. They took a dead end project and turned it around. But being stat tweaking madmen (engineers, technically) doesn't do anything for the greater scope of the jaded bitter vet. You can fix an ailing role (Gallente Assault + Assault Rifle, just as an example) but that doesn't add content or breadth to the game. It just makes a underutilized role (CQC Assault) more viable and slightly less grueling to try and make work.
To really add content that veterans can truly value there needs to be something to progress into -after- the fact. Something that a player can look forward to again instead of "Welp. I got a million SP, guess I'll dump it into Caldari Sentinels because I have nothing else to do."
And as far as the DK store, I have no idea. There's been a bunch of debate about what it could entail but it's all up in the air with everything having it's pros and cons.
Aeon Amadi for CPM 2
Design A SKIN 2
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:14:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Aeon, I'm giving you a like just because of how well written that post was. Not because I agree or feel that way myself. Well written though. How can you agree with that... CCP have had to build around a game of players encouraged to squeze every last dime out of it rather than just play for the content on offer, offered a sandbox to do what you will and rather than make something you pocket the sand instead... How can CCP be expected to add content to that environment ?? ISK wealth is great.. on a game you can barely find a battle in becasue of that mentality. Many crazy bastards have played the game for just as long, with only the intention of just seeing content progress The ISK barrier is half of the reason gameplay is screwed, and allows scrubs like me to get a good score... As much as we complain of CCP, the community they have to work with sucks.
The competition sucks because the incentives and mechanics to perpetuate competitive play have been screwed up until now. Pubs have such garbage incentives and it's caused what people now call "casual" gameplay.
There was a time when people would have given their right nut for even a 10 million ISK clone pack, now they are free and people waste them.
The big corps are leaving the small fish alone for the most part, even giving away districts. Besides leaving the game in mass or just letting people win, I'm not sure what else can be done.
Some people are just pussies, while its a surprise to me that all these pussies decide to play an FPS but it is what it is. There is NO HOPE for competitive play in Dust. Just get that through your head and enjoy the game while it lasts. |
sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:40:00 -
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Might I suggest helping with the VF war?
We are here to create good PC battles. Currently we would be called a small PC corporation, only owning one district. (Or is it two now?)
Regardless, we will see you guys on the field eventually.
VF Diplomat.
Basically, I clean up the political shit the other's make.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:42:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:There is NO HOPE for competitive play in Dust. Just get that through your head and enjoy the game while it lasts. Nonsense. I see competitive fights all the time. If you can't find a good fight, the odds are you aren't looking for one. If you don't want to be a peaceful farmer, then do something about it. Convince your leadership to grow a pair and fight rather than farm. If they're unwilling, find a corp which will.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:43:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'm just in it for the ISK Why? So you can be richer than the other 10 people who'll end up being what's left here? I'm just in it for the fights, at some stage I have shot for/at every Corp active in the game, a lot of that time spent with some of my own rag-tag clan of bandits who are an awesome mix of players, and a lot of them are damn good at what they do.. because I took the chance, and brought them to fights, from Vet to NPC corps, if it's red we try to kill it Added to that, I have dragged DMG mercs to fight for a lot of fresh blood in PC, offering mercs, unwanted advice, insults and if the team was going nowhere I would just take of over and try to lead it myself and as many times as I've died for it.. I have brought as many teams with sh!t odds to win battles... For the sake of getting more fights. I've seen ringers, way too many fight for ISK and a stomp.. faced with a fight the RQ QQ LAG battle begins. A merc that wants to fight someone is worth 10x more to a team than one that wants to get paid. Currently in MH a Top active fighting Corp can make use of about 10 Districts, with this you can afford regular battles, gain profit and have a stock of clones. At this you have a good total and add to fights, smaller Corps aiming for 5 would be ideal, there are the players to do this active on Dust yet we sit in a stale mate because of Alliances, truces, fggts and scrubs that cannot see past their own activity and in most sad cases KDR... but why bother to rant sense at any of you.. CCP left the building.. this community is what we have to game with and it's not looking good. SOONtm... as we wait for CCP to spoon feed something to fight over Which will not happen.. why add content to be farmed rather than contested?? To put it simply: We're jaded. There's nothing else to do, really. Lot of veterans have reached a point where we have maxxed out everything even remotely related to our progression choices and are just dumping SP into things we could care less about. The DK market doesn't exist yet and will likely not offer anything we really find valuable. Faction Warfare is a'ight if you want exclusive SKINs and marginally better gear but other then that it's a role-play sort of deal. Pubs offer ISK but not in any great way and not with any real reliability. So what's left is PC battles and ISK printing, essentially. Stockpiling ISK en masse so that we can run whatever kind of gear we want for what is effectively eternity and use that same ISK to get SKINs and tradeable stuff we don't have yet. I mean, you're talking to players who have been around since June 2012 and probably even longer on Eve Online. We've already explored everything this game has to offer. Fought on every map, used every weapon, used every dropsuit, every vehicle, every module, every piece of equipment.... Fought every battle that we thought was worth a damn... ISK is really the only thing driving us anymore. This megalomaniac pipe dream that will go on for an infinite amount of time. But I mean even that's not ike a big priority... Just gives us a reason to do the stupid things we do, gives us a reason to keep playing the game when by all rights we should have quit ages ago. ^ Do you hear this, CCP Rattati? If the elite Kumbaya Corps aren't interested in warring with one another, and they feel there's nothing left in Dust for them to do but blue up, be bored, be "jaded" and print Isk, what harm would there be in introducing Proper Raid Mechanics? What better way to bust up the talent pools, break the stalemate and keep the wheels of war moving?
I'm speaking for myself and a handful of friends who share the same views. Not "elite Kumbaya Corps". Try not to go guilt by association because I have Negative-Feedback underneath my name.
Proper raid mechanics would do exactly what clone packs are doing right now, just better. NF has already established a fallback plan in the eventuality that we don't have any districts and there's a handful of us that consider that as actually being better off for who we are because of one very important factor: The clone packs would be free!! Imagine being raided by an "elite Kumaya Corp" on the daily because of how many people we have netting thousands of CP a day just so we can make some DK =P
After all, we -are- a mercenary corporation and we are driven by profit. Having districts helps because we can sell excess clones for DK. Not having districts helps because clone packs would be free and we're already spilling over on the Command Points as it is. Hell, even if other corporations raided -us- we'd still make a net profit if we look at Jadek's raids because we all mutually benefitted from that. His guys ran cheap stuff, got boat-loads of ISK and DK (even though they lost); we ran more expensive stuff, still came out with a profit because we didn't die so much, and we got more DK for winning.
There's really nothing that can put NF in a situation we can't bounce back, lol.
Aeon Amadi for CPM 2
Design A SKIN 2
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