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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:14:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Aeon, I'm giving you a like just because of how well written that post was. Not because I agree or feel that way myself. Well written though. How can you agree with that... CCP have had to build around a game of players encouraged to squeze every last dime out of it rather than just play for the content on offer, offered a sandbox to do what you will and rather than make something you pocket the sand instead... How can CCP be expected to add content to that environment ?? ISK wealth is great.. on a game you can barely find a battle in becasue of that mentality. Many crazy bastards have played the game for just as long, with only the intention of just seeing content progress The ISK barrier is half of the reason gameplay is screwed, and allows scrubs like me to get a good score... As much as we complain of CCP, the community they have to work with sucks.
The competition sucks because the incentives and mechanics to perpetuate competitive play have been screwed up until now. Pubs have such garbage incentives and it's caused what people now call "casual" gameplay.
There was a time when people would have given their right nut for even a 10 million ISK clone pack, now they are free and people waste them.
The big corps are leaving the small fish alone for the most part, even giving away districts. Besides leaving the game in mass or just letting people win, I'm not sure what else can be done.
Some people are just pussies, while its a surprise to me that all these pussies decide to play an FPS but it is what it is. There is NO HOPE for competitive play in Dust. Just get that through your head and enjoy the game while it lasts. |
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Posted - 2015.08.08 22:55:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'm just in it for the ISK Why? So you can be richer than the other 10 people who'll end up being what's left here? I'm just in it for the fights, at some stage I have shot for/at every Corp active in the game, a lot of that time spent with some of my own rag-tag clan of bandits who are an awesome mix of players, and a lot of them are damn good at what they do.. because I took the chance, and brought them to fights, from Vet to NPC corps, if it's red we try to kill it  Added to that, I have dragged DMG mercs to fight for a lot of fresh blood in PC, offering mercs, unwanted advice, insults and if the team was going nowhere I would just take of over and try to lead it myself and as many times as I've died for it.. I have brought as many teams with sh!t odds to win battles... For the sake of getting more fights. I've seen ringers, way too many fight for ISK and a stomp.. faced with a fight the RQ QQ LAG battle begins. A merc that wants to fight someone is worth 10x more to a team than one that wants to get paid. Currently in MH a Top active fighting Corp can make use of about 10 Districts, with this you can afford regular battles, gain profit and have a stock of clones. At this you have a good total and add to fights, smaller Corps aiming for 5 would be ideal, there are the players to do this active on Dust yet we sit in a stale mate because of Alliances, truces, fggts and scrubs that cannot see past their own activity and in most sad cases KDR... but why bother to rant sense at any of you.. CCP left the building.. this community is what we have to game with and it's not looking good. SOONtm... as we wait for CCP to spoon feed something to fight over Which will not happen.. why add content to be farmed rather than contested?? To put it simply: We're jaded. There's nothing else to do, really. Lot of veterans have reached a point where we have maxxed out everything even remotely related to our progression choices and are just dumping SP into things we could care less about. The DK market doesn't exist yet and will likely not offer anything we really find valuable. Faction Warfare is a'ight if you want exclusive SKINs and marginally better gear but other then that it's a role-play sort of deal. Pubs offer ISK but not in any great way and not with any real reliability. So what's left is PC battles and ISK printing, essentially. Stockpiling ISK en masse so that we can run whatever kind of gear we want for what is effectively eternity and use that same ISK to get SKINs and tradeable stuff we don't have yet. I mean, you're talking to players who have been around since June 2012 and probably even longer on Eve Online. We've already explored everything this game has to offer. Fought on every map, used every weapon, used every dropsuit, every vehicle, every module, every piece of equipment.... Fought every battle that we thought was worth a damn... ISK is really the only thing driving us anymore. This megalomaniac pipe dream that will go on for an infinite amount of time. But I mean even that's not ike a big priority... Just gives us a reason to do the stupid things we do, gives us a reason to keep playing the game when by all rights we should have quit ages ago. ^ Do you hear this, CCP Rattati? If the elite Kumbaya Corps aren't interested in warring with one another, and they feel there's nothing left in Dust for them to do but blue up, be bored, be "jaded" and print Isk, what harm would there be in introducing Proper Raid Mechanics? What better way to bust up the talent pools, break the stalemate and keep the wheels of war moving?
There is no real warring.
There is no stalemate. Well I guess that's a lie, if the 3 or 4 corps that can actually PC fought a war then what?
Even with whatever you consider real raiding mechanics what makes you think anybody is going to actually show up to really put up a fight in a raid? All the dudes who quit after two deaths and come whine about OP this or OP that?
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.08.08 23:02:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:There is NO HOPE for competitive play in Dust. Just get that through your head and enjoy the game while it lasts. Nonsense. I see competitive fights all the time. If you can't find a good fight, the odds are you aren't looking for one. If you don't want to be a peaceful farmer, then do something about it. Convince your leadership to grow a pair and fight rather than farm. If they're unwilling, find a corp which will. Lmfao, you realize we have like 5-10 battles A DAY, right? Like, we're -always- fighting, and not just the newer corps that randomly attack us out of no where, we fight Outer Heaven as well. Which, if we're not considering Outer Heaven as proper competition then I dunno what is >_>;
Oh so the 50 or so dudes within those two corps that would actually be fielded in the battles against each other means lots of competition?
The Dust playerbase is full of people who would rather AFK in FW for measly LP than actually shoot at people.
Out of the 10 PC battles a day at least 5 are no shows. |
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Posted - 2015.08.08 23:04:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:There is NO HOPE for competitive play in Dust. Just get that through your head and enjoy the game while it lasts. Nonsense. I see competitive fights all the time. If you can't find a good fight, the odds are you aren't looking for one. If you don't want to be a peaceful farmer, then do something about it. Convince your leadership to grow a pair and fight rather than farm. If they're unwilling, find a corp which will. Lmfao, you realize we have like 5-10 battles A DAY, right? Like, we're -always- fighting, and not just the newer corps that randomly attack us out of no where, we fight Outer Heaven as well. Which, if we're not considering Outer Heaven as proper competition then I dunno what is >_>; You realize you two are in the same corp, right? Which story does NF want to go with today?
I'm not sure who Aeon is talking to when he occasionally logs in, but I don't know anybody that's happy with the state of competition in Dust. |
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Posted - 2015.08.08 23:15:00 -
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I'm an ocean away from my PS3 for the next few weeks, but if I were able to log in I can guarantee that my experience would go something like this:
1. Read corp mail about multiple PCs.
2. Join PC chat
3. Waste 45 minutes to an hour on a no show, then go directly into another match that turns out to be another no show.
4. Run some FW where the competition is so fierce that I can leave my dude standing by an objective while I go ****, to find him still alive.
5. Get bored with FW and try some pubs.
6. Play two or three matches that are decided within a few minutes and spend 95% of the matches avoiding sniper fire while trying to be the first to kill the random hero that decides to go it alone and run from the redline.
7. Then for whatever reason Scotty puts me on the other side where it appears my team is trying out for the Olympic sniper team and I can either be the hero or leave battle.
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.08.08 23:16:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
I'm not sure who Aeon is talking to when he occasionally logs in, but I don't know anybody that's happy with the state of competition in Dust.
I agree with you. And I think it can be fixed.
Do you have the ability to grow ********* for players vis the Internet? |
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Posted - 2015.08.08 23:19:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'm an ocean away from my PS3 for the next few weeks, but if I were able to log in I can guarantee that my experience would go something like this:
1. Read corp mail about multiple PCs.
2. Join PC chat
3. Waste 45 minutes to an hour on a no show, then go directly into another match that turns out to be another no show.
4. Run some FW where the competition is so fierce that I can leave my dude standing by an objective while I go ****, to find him still alive.
5. Get bored with FW and try some pubs.
6. Play two or three matches that are decided within a few minutes and spend 95% of the matches avoiding sniper fire while trying to be the first to kill the random hero that decides to go it alone and run from the redline.
7. Then for whatever reason Scotty puts me on the other side where it appears my team is trying out for the Olympic sniper team and I can either be the hero or leave battle.
No-one is disagreeing with you, Thor.
I must have misinterpreted your responses to my earlier posts |
Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.08.08 23:23:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'm an ocean away from my PS3 for the next few weeks, but if I were able to log in I can guarantee that my experience would go something like this:
1. Read corp mail about multiple PCs.
2. Join PC chat
3. Waste 45 minutes to an hour on a no show, then go directly into another match that turns out to be another no show.
4. Run some FW where the competition is so fierce that I can leave my dude standing by an objective while I go ****, to find him still alive.
5. Get bored with FW and try some pubs.
6. Play two or three matches that are decided within a few minutes and spend 95% of the matches avoiding sniper fire while trying to be the first to kill the random hero that decides to go it alone and run from the redline.
7. Then for whatever reason Scotty puts me on the other side where it appears my team is trying out for the Olympic sniper team and I can either be the hero or leave battle.
Pick up the plasma cannon, welcome to a whole new game. Thank me later. 
Doesn't change the part where I hate losing. If I play a pub solo and go 20-0 but lose, I don't like it.
But for sure PLC is great fun when your blues are garbage. Long distance PLC kills are very rewarding! |
Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.08.08 23:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'm an ocean away from my PS3 for the next few weeks, but if I were able to log in I can guarantee that my experience would go something like this:
1. Read corp mail about multiple PCs.
2. Join PC chat
3. Waste 45 minutes to an hour on a no show, then go directly into another match that turns out to be another no show.
4. Run some FW where the competition is so fierce that I can leave my dude standing by an objective while I go ****, to find him still alive.
5. Get bored with FW and try some pubs.
6. Play two or three matches that are decided within a few minutes and spend 95% of the matches avoiding sniper fire while trying to be the first to kill the random hero that decides to go it alone and run from the redline.
7. Then for whatever reason Scotty puts me on the other side where it appears my team is trying out for the Olympic sniper team and I can either be the hero or leave battle.
No-one is disagreeing with you, Thor. I must have misinterpreted your responses to my earlier posts I strongly suspect so.
K den, see you in a few weeks
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:43:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:There is NO HOPE for competitive play in Dust. Just get that through your head and enjoy the game while it lasts. Nonsense. I see competitive fights all the time. If you can't find a good fight, the odds are you aren't looking for one. If you don't want to be a peaceful farmer, then do something about it. Convince your leadership to grow a pair and fight rather than farm. If they're unwilling, find a corp which will. Lmfao, you realize we have like 5-10 battles A DAY, right? Like, we're -always- fighting, and not just the newer corps that randomly attack us out of no where, we fight Outer Heaven as well. Which, if we're not considering Outer Heaven as proper competition then I dunno what is >_>; Oh so the 50 or so dudes within those two corps that would actually be fielded in the battles against each other means lots of competition? The Dust playerbase is full of people who would rather AFK in FW for measly LP than actually shoot at people. Out of the 10 PC battles a day at least 5 are no shows. Okay, first it was competition at all, then it was preferential competition, now it's lots of competition. Goalpost keeps moving here so I'mma back out of this debate and let you and Adipem hash it out for the rest of eternity. Got waaaaay better things to do then mull over opinions and composition fallacies  GLHF.
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Posted - 2015.08.09 10:15:00 -
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Don't see how you do it.
I've gotten to the point where I'd rather sit through boring qsyncs than put up with crap blueberries. |
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