Grab cheap apex suits. Tear it up and do as much damage as you can, even with the knowledge that you'll lose. Come away with a profit and a weakened 'enemy'.

i am playing in a few days so....

270K isk profit + 200DK is not bad at all for a first attempt. More isk profit than most pub matches for the majority of people. Will have taken longer, but it was a first attempt, plus they got DK and it was probably more fun than most pubs.

I average 350-400k in pub..last night I got nearly 700k in a bush

LOL @ Tebu Gan

It's very easy to turn a profit running militia suits in PC.
In tonight's battle against Neg Feedback. I only lost 18k total in cheap suits. Made 270k ISK and 200 DKs in net profit!

All players except for Slender and VC, corp members, were recruited from public squad finder. They enjoyed the laughs and no guilt content against NF.

https://twitter.com/JadekMenaheim/status/620813367230468096

Op success!

Bonus:NF. member Aeon Amadi's (very glitchy) video of raid.

No one seems to be paying attention to the fact that they cost the defending corp money and weakened their district while making a profit which this scenario before would have been an instant 10 million ISK loss. Given the damages done in this case were minimal but that could have been stepped up to a point of being strategic with a little bit of organization. All we need now is to get rid of the stupid 24 - 48 hour wait for raids and these will be pretty nice.

That's what I was wondering. How much ISK in clones and suits lost did the defenders suffer despite their victory?

If the whole point of raiding districts is to inflict as much financial damage to the district holders as possible while mitigating losses on your own side, than this is very reminiscent of what Eve Online players do when they are roaming around null-sec space causing trouble like pirates.

My brother was just in a fleet last night where he and his corp went into null-sec to cause trouble using only a small ad-hoc style fleet. They were massively outnumbered and obviously lost the fight but they caused the sovereignty owners financial losses in terms of ships lost and critical station services (ship fitting & repairs, manufacturing jobs, etc.) disabled via Entosis links.

That may just be one small ad-hoc fleet that was easily pushed away, but with enough small fleets causing trouble you can erode the sovereignty holders with distractions and picking off any of stragglers. This is because you are not fighting the enemy on their terms.

I can imagine a similar strategy being employed by PC raiders here in Dust where the raiders often lose a match but come away with causing financial troubles for the district holders.

Think about it. Every clone you destroy on the district owner's side, regardless of what suit that clone was wearing, is a clone they are no longer able to sell for ISK (corp) and DK (player). It took them time to build up those clones and thus would be a financial loss every time they lose a clone. Meanwhile, a Raider corp only spent CP for attacking without owning a district. And if they win the district, they can just ransom it back for profit.

And do not forget that CP seems rather easy to build up these days. Dust University was able to cap out in less than a week after PC 2.0 was implemented. Even a couple of days after spending 25,000 CP to attack a district, we already recuperated much of that. Apparently our corp is much more active than what we initially thought. CP contributions appears to be a pretty good measure of how active a corp can be.

Whats the new FoTM?
well so far all i can think about is when are they going to address the matter of how overpowered swarms are vs ADS.

All the work to grab and set up a team just for pub pay outs?

did you guys get stomped that hard? Payouts usually are well over 1.5million

i assure you, any losses most players lose in these corps is almost a non-factor. The only players feeling the hurt would be tankers and dropship pilots and the occasional try hard logi. <3 But the corp pays reimbursement for losses, and taxes EASILY make up for that with how often and how much these players make per match. And even if taxes were removed - NF players generally make enough in pubs to negate any losses in PC.

And now with DK being able to buy gear soon, the losses will be even more minimized as corps reimburse with gear instead of ISK.

No one seems to be paying attention to the fact that they cost the defending corp money and weakened their district while making a profit which this scenario before would have been an instant 10 million ISK loss. Given the damages done in this case were minimal but that could have been stepped up to a point of being strategic with a little bit of organization. All we need now is to get rid of the stupid 24 - 48 hour wait for raids and these will be pretty nice.

I made the platoon open on public squad finder remember. It filled up in under two minutes with people looking to gladly spam militia against NF. The only awoxer we had was dropship captain, but he's been added to the list now.

https://trello.com/b/YkwAIUe2/dust-514-corporations-dossier

Yet, how do you feel about the players that honestly don't give a second thought to isk efficiency. It would be years before you could actually "dent" anyones wallet. With trading and the warbarge, being isk poor is a thing of the past for me.

proto gear beats BPO gear

why would you run anything BUT proto gear in a PC anyway??

Cheers Aeon for providing the data from your side on the raid.

Yes, while both sides made an ISK profit and XERCC is down 25k CP, randoms and corp members got a variety of content out of the battle.

How did all the other battles go for you that night? NF. was being attacked pretty frequently.

We won all of them, lol. Some were no-shows, few others were completely ringer matches (we're going to work on that as we have a policy that if you can't field at least 50% of your own people then you don't deserve the district).

Which, there's a few corporations out there that have districts and they have <32 members in their corp so we're going to be hitting them next and probably turning the district over to corporations that actually -want- to PC. So, if you're interested in making Xer Cloud Consortium a PC group, lemme know and I'll talk to the brass about giving/selling you guys a district.

Aeon, Xer is not designed as a land holding corp. Others can fill that role. If we do get a district, clones will be continually sold off for DK with CP as all members have planetary logistics roles.

We are laser focused on wildcard/militia raiding.

If this is Dust's end-game "working as intended", I (for one) am not interested. This is embarrassing.

PS: You could've made that 270k Isk alot easier running a couple pubs.

God, some people just don't get this is a sandbox. Play in it however you want and quit your whining. This is good step for Dust as a F2P game--the goal of which is to be accessible to many customers, not just a few 'elites' of a game who seem to want to be gatekeepers of content.

God, some people just don't get this is a sandbox. Play in it however you want and quit your whining. This is good step for Dust as a F2P game--the goal of which is to be accessible to many customers, not just a few 'elites' of a game who seem to want to be gatekeepers of content.

God, some people just don't get this is a sandbox. Play in it however you want and quit your whining. This is good step for Dust as a F2P game--the goal of which is to be accessible to many customers, not just a few 'elites' of a game who seem to want to be gatekeepers of content.