I also think the Assault Scrambler Rifle sucks).

Lol

I agree with everything except that the AScR sucks.. Because that's not true.

Love it when a post begs for multiple FTM things:

Scramblers AND Commandos

Honestly, the scrambler is way out of line. Look at the post earlier about the damage vs overheat. No matter if it is modded controllers or not, because to be honest it seems most guys using the scrambler are on a modded controller. The gun needs fixed so it does not account for more than 50% of the kill feed every game. Overheat per shot is about the only way to make it impossible to use for the cheaters. If it cycles too fast then BOOM, fixing two problems with one solution. Those guys will of course go back to using the combat rifle....but one problem at a time.

The ASR is not garbage, its amazing......

Okay, your want to talk about an OP weapon, let's take about the Assault rail Rifle which I see far more often in the killfeed than Scrambler Rifles. According to Thaddeus' chart, the most a Scrambler Rifle can do before overheating is 1358 damage.An Assault Rail Rifle onc the other hand can do 2436 damage in a clip.

*drops the mic

Okay, your want to talk about an OP weapon, let's take about the Assault rail Rifle which I see far more often in the killfeed than Scrambler Rifles. According to Thaddeus' chart, the most a Scrambler Rifle can do before overheating is 1358 damage.An Assault Rail Rifle onc the other hand can do 2436 damage in a clip.

*drops the mic

So, what you're saying is that the Assault Rail Rifle is more OP than the Scrambler Rifle? Is that your honest position?

Yes. Scrambler Rifle is a skill based weapon unless you have a modded controller, it is these people that gives Scr a bad name.

have you used the rail rifle?

So, what you're saying is that the Assault Rail Rifle is more OP than the Scrambler Rifle? Is that your honest position?

Yes, I've used the militia Assault rail Rifle on a Militia Caldari Medium Frame and went 24/6 against Nos Nothi in an Acquisition, it was easy mode, point, shoot, +50.

anyone that does not understand the problem with the ScR or AScR needs to go to proto fits and compare it to any other rife

its best to compare it to the RR as the RR is meant to have the best range just look at the base dps difference against armor and shield at any of the given ranges

even with the overheat mechanism in place you can squeeze out more then enough bullets to take anything out

giving the ScR a damage nerf along with noticeable kick or lower capped RoF (delay between shots) would bring it in line with other rifles it also needs to be made so that you can only fire one charged shot like the ion pistol (enough to reach just below the max threshold but not exceed it, meaning you could fire one more shot but overheat in the process, unless you have max Amarr Assault) buffing the charged shot damage slightly but not too much as it can already kill most low HP suits, and it would help to change the damge profile to 15% instead of 20%

it may sound like a substantial nerf but considering the damage output of this weapon it is necessary to bring it in line

making these changes would put the ScR somewhere between a RR and a AR

TLDR- nerf damage and range a bit, change the profile to 15% and make it so you cant fire it insanely fast or fire shots after a charged shot without some type of punishment

you did not use the RR as the militia assault has no charge up yes it is easy mode as it is intended to be for scrubs

Yes. Scrambler Rifle is a skill based weapon unless you have a modded controller, it is these people that gives Scr a bad name.

Amarr are supposed to be long range specialists along with the Caldari, so I see no problem with the range if Caldari gets a sniper and Amarr do not.

Also, I would be fine with a damage profile change.

You forgot boyko ScrR have bigger headshot multiplayer ;l

long range yes but when it outperforms every rifle at every range even tho the RR is supposed to be the best at range then no at least give the RR an advantage at over 100m as any range from 0-150 the ScR will destroy the RR in every aspect

at ranges greater then that the damge is so low that it hardly even matters but the ScR still has the lead In dps up to a certain point where the passive reps would heal up the ScR user

You forgot boyko that unless a target is standing perfectly still for a couple seconds, it is very difficult to land a headshot.

You kidding me, i do not have issue with ScrR even just speced to level 2.
And i dont using Amarrian suits.
If you can click button fast and somewhere around enemy head you will have HS in few shoots, even if he running.

You kidding me, i do not have issue with ScrR even just speced to level 2.
And i dont using Amarrian suits.
If you can click button fast and somewhere around enemy head you will have HS in few shoots, even if he running.

The Scr doesn't have a higher headshot multiplier only the Scp does.

Love it when a post begs for multiple FTM things:

Scramblers AND Commandos

Honestly, the scrambler is way out of line. Look at the post earlier about the damage vs overheat. No matter if it is modded controllers or not, because to be honest it seems most guys using the scrambler are on a modded controller. The gun needs fixed so it does not account for more than 50% of the kill feed every game. Overheat per shot is about the only way to make it impossible to use for the cheaters. If it cycles too fast then BOOM, fixing two problems with one solution. Those guys will of course go back to using the combat rifle....but one problem at a time.

The ASR is not garbage, its amazing......

I never talk about ScrP
I talking about ScrR vs other weapons (snipe excluded).

I find I funny that everyone blames the weapon for it performance . I'll agrree the scrambler rifle is OP against caldari but nothing more.
The ammar assault bonus is what gives it, its extra shots it can fire off before overheating .
But yet no one seems to complain that the min assault bonus gives you 20 more in the clip for the assault combat rifle