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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 05:13:00 -
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As an Amarrian Commando who uses the Scrambler Rifle, I can say is to not increase the overheat, as it would make it almost useless in a Commando. I also think the Assault Scrambler Rifle sucks which is why I refuse to use that (opinion).
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Posted - 2015.07.12 05:43:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:I agree with everything except that the AScR sucks.. Because that's not true. The reason I put (opinion) is so this would not happen. I am saying that the Assault Scrambler Rifle would not be my first choice of a weapon. Some people are good with it, I'm not, very over it.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 05:55:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:Love it when a post begs for multiple FTM things:
Scramblers AND Commandos
Honestly, the scrambler is way out of line. Look at the post earlier about the damage vs overheat. No matter if it is modded controllers or not, because to be honest it seems most guys using the scrambler are on a modded controller. The gun needs fixed so it does not account for more than 50% of the kill feed every game. Overheat per shot is about the only way to make it impossible to use for the cheaters. If it cycles too fast then BOOM, fixing two problems with one solution. Those guys will of course go back to using the combat rifle....but one problem at a time.
The ASR is not garbage, its amazing......
Okay, your want to talk about an OP weapon, let's take about the Assault rail Rifle which I see far more often in the killfeed than Scrambler Rifles. According to Thaddeus' chart, the most a Scrambler Rifle can do before overheating is 1358 damage.An Assault Rail Rifle onc the other hand can do 2436 damage in a clip.
*drops the mic
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:20:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:Love it when a post begs for multiple FTM things:
Scramblers AND Commandos
Honestly, the scrambler is way out of line. Look at the post earlier about the damage vs overheat. No matter if it is modded controllers or not, because to be honest it seems most guys using the scrambler are on a modded controller. The gun needs fixed so it does not account for more than 50% of the kill feed every game. Overheat per shot is about the only way to make it impossible to use for the cheaters. If it cycles too fast then BOOM, fixing two problems with one solution. Those guys will of course go back to using the combat rifle....but one problem at a time.
The ASR is not garbage, its amazing......
Okay, your want to talk about an OP weapon, let's take about the Assault rail Rifle which I see far more often in the killfeed than Scrambler Rifles. According to Thaddeus' chart, the most a Scrambler Rifle can do before overheating is 1358 damage.An Assault Rail Rifle onc the other hand can do 2436 damage in a clip. *drops the mic So, what you're saying is that the Assault Rail Rifle is more OP than the Scrambler Rifle? Is that your honest position? Yes. Scrambler Rifle is a skill based weapon unless you have a modded controller, it is these people that gives Scr a bad name.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:26:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:Love it when a post begs for multiple FTM things:
Scramblers AND Commandos
Honestly, the scrambler is way out of line. Look at the post earlier about the damage vs overheat. No matter if it is modded controllers or not, because to be honest it seems most guys using the scrambler are on a modded controller. The gun needs fixed so it does not account for more than 50% of the kill feed every game. Overheat per shot is about the only way to make it impossible to use for the cheaters. If it cycles too fast then BOOM, fixing two problems with one solution. Those guys will of course go back to using the combat rifle....but one problem at a time.
The ASR is not garbage, its amazing......
Okay, your want to talk about an OP weapon, let's take about the Assault rail Rifle which I see far more often in the killfeed than Scrambler Rifles. According to Thaddeus' chart, the most a Scrambler Rifle can do before overheating is 1358 damage.An Assault Rail Rifle onc the other hand can do 2436 damage in a clip. *drops the mic So, what you're saying is that the Assault Rail Rifle is more OP than the Scrambler Rifle? Is that your honest position? Yes. Scrambler Rifle is a skill based weapon unless you have a modded controller, it is these people that gives Scr a bad name. have you used the rail rifle? Yes, I've used the militia Assault rail Rifle on a Militia Caldari Medium Frame and went 24/6 against Nos Nothi in an Acquisition, it was easy mode, point, shoot, +50.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:29:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:anyone that does not understand the problem with the ScR or AScR needs to go to proto fits and compare it to any other rife
its best to compare it to the RR as the RR is meant to have the best range just look at the base dps difference against armor and shield at any of the given ranges
even with the overheat mechanism in place you can squeeze out more then enough bullets to take anything out
giving the ScR a damage nerf along with noticeable kick or lower capped RoF (delay between shots) would bring it in line with other rifles it also needs to be made so that you can only fire one charged shot like the ion pistol (enough to reach just below the max threshold but not exceed it, meaning you could fire one more shot but overheat in the process, unless you have max Amarr Assault) buffing the charged shot damage slightly but not too much as it can already kill most low HP suits, and it would help to change the damge profile to 15% instead of 20%
it may sound like a substantial nerf but considering the damage output of this weapon it is necessary to bring it in line
making these changes would put the ScR somewhere between a RR and a AR
TLDR- nerf damage and range a bit, change the profile to 15% and make it so you cant fire it insanely fast or fire shots after a charged shot without some type of punishment Amarr are supposed to be long range specialists along with the Caldari, so I see no problem with the range if Caldari gets a sniper and Amarr do not.
Also, I would be fine with a damage profile change.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:30:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:
Yes, I've used the militia Assault rail Rifle on a Militia Caldari Medium Frame and went 24/6 against Nos Nothi in an Acquisition, it was easy mode, point, shoot, +50.
you did not use the RR as the militia assault has no charge up yes it is easy mode as it is intended to be for scrubs I was not talking about the RR in the first place. I was talking about the ARR.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:32:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:
So, what you're saying is that the Assault Rail Rifle is more OP than the Scrambler Rifle? Is that your honest position?
Yes. Scrambler Rifle is a skill based weapon unless you have a modded controller, it is these people that gives Scr a bad name.
how much skill does it take to go into cover and charge, pop out long enough to deal 300+ damage and gp right back to cover
and if they get close it doesn't take much skill to just spam shots
it is by no means a skill based weapon and even if it is, the damge output is way too high, what other rifle do you know that can deal over 1k damge in less then a second other then perhaps a high tire sniper rifle
[/quote] In my opinion the overheat is already a good drawback, if you get engaged close range, it is very likely you will overheat before you kill the enemy. And as an Amarr Commando with a Scr and lr, there is not a better option.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:42:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:You forgot boyko ScrR have bigger headshot multiplayer ;l You forgot boyko that unless a target is standing perfectly still for a couple seconds, it is very difficult to land a headshot.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:44:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote: Amarr are supposed to be long range specialists along with the Caldari, so I see no problem with the range if Caldari gets a sniper and Amarr do not.
Also, I would be fine with a damage profile change.
long range yes but when it outperforms every rifle at every range even tho the RR is supposed to be the best at range then no at least give the RR an advantage at over 100m as any range from 0-150 the ScR will destroy the RR in every aspect at ranges greater then that the damge is so low that it hardly even matters but the ScR still has the lead In dps up to a certain point where the passive reps would heal up the ScR user It is quite hard to hit a target with a semi automatic at the maximum optimal range unless they have low health or is standing still.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:50:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:You forgot boyko ScrR have bigger headshot multiplayer ;l You forgot boyko that unless a target is standing perfectly still for a couple seconds, it is very difficult to land a headshot. You kidding me, i do not have issue with ScrR even just speced to level 2. And i dont using Amarrian suits. If you can click button fast and somewhere around enemy head you will have HS in few shoots, even if he running. Well lucky you, you must have the magic touch. I don't see anyone complaining about Scrambler pistols that can 4 shot a heavy.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:53:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:Love it when a post begs for multiple FTM things:
Scramblers AND Commandos
Honestly, the scrambler is way out of line. Look at the post earlier about the damage vs overheat. No matter if it is modded controllers or not, because to be honest it seems most guys using the scrambler are on a modded controller. The gun needs fixed so it does not account for more than 50% of the kill feed every game. Overheat per shot is about the only way to make it impossible to use for the cheaters. If it cycles too fast then BOOM, fixing two problems with one solution. Those guys will of course go back to using the combat rifle....but one problem at a time.
The ASR is not garbage, its amazing......
I find I funny that everyone blames the weapon for it performance . I'll agrree the scrambler rifle is OP against caldari but nothing more. The ammar assault bonus is what gives it, its extra shots it can fire off before overheating . But yet no one seems to complain that the min assault bonus gives you 20 more in the clip for the assault combat rifle That is exactly why I specced out of min Assault. I felt it was too FOTM and no one complained about it because they all used it.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:01:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Nerf it already! I'm so sick of all these people complaining, get it over with. It's nothing that the ScR/Amarr Community can't handle. I'm sure Nocturnal can tell you how many times the ScR has already been nerfed. ^this
I'll keep fighting against a nerf, but if it does come, I will still be slaying with it guaranteed.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:03:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:You forgot boyko ScrR have bigger headshot multiplayer ;l There's your false information boyko. And I simply corrected it by telling about the only laser profiled weapon that gets a headshot bonus. Ftfy
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:03:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:You forgot boyko ScrR have bigger headshot multiplayer ;l There's your false information. And I simply corrected it by telling about the only laser profiled weapon that gets a headshot bonus. I took it from eve wiki sue me, oki i made mistake ;) But i will not change that i see it like user friendly weapon for headshots, especialy charged. Wiki lol
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:09:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:You forgot boyko ScrR have bigger headshot multiplayer ;l There's your false information boyko. And I simply corrected it by telling about the only laser profiled weapon that gets a headshot bonus. Ftfy For the love of Christ don't ever put boyko in any sentence of mine. It's just about one of the only things that makes me cringe on the internet. Sorry, just had to do it.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:10:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Honestly proficiency on this one, nope boyko. You already have powerfull weapon, dont get me wrong i like ScrR. Honestly i see it like weapon with great mechanix. But it is one of most powerfull one ingame.
I will watch a YouTube video tomorrow ofcthecmost recent Dust 514 video and record what is in the killfeed.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:11:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Honestly proficiency on this one, nope boyko. You already have powerfull weapon, dont get me wrong i like ScrR. Honestly i see it like weapon with great mechanix. But it is one of most powerfull one ingame.
My breach forgun says other wise (just saying) True, I've seen that thing take out unsuspecting pro tanks.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:17:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Honestly proficiency on this one, nope boyko. You already have powerfull weapon, dont get me wrong i like ScrR. Honestly i see it like weapon with great mechanix. But it is one of most powerfull one ingame.
I will watch a YouTube video tomorrow ofcthecmost recent Dust 514 video and record what is in the killfeed. What is tomorrow? Sunday
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:20:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Sorry boyko but there is already Sunday XD 8:20 approx XD Was just before 12 o clock when I wrote it. I live in California
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:24:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Sorry boyko but there is already Sunday XD 8:20 approx XD Was just before 12 o clock when I wrote it. I live in California I living in your future boyko (EU) ;)
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