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Spaceman-Rob Dead Man's Game 859	Posted - 2015.07.01 14:27:00 - [1] - Quote Anything that restricts fluid movement like the strafe nerf did is a bad thing for Dust or any fps, movement now feels sluggish, stiff and clunky.
Clone D Solo Zen 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 14:32:00 - [2] - Quote Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati.
DR DEESE NUTS 156	Posted - 2015.07.01 14:37:00 - [3] - Quote Yep. All I see now is heavy n logi train with assaults sitting with long range rifles 50-80 meters away. And the assault rifle is a joke now because the most important thing now is range. Who ever out ranges each other wins. The USS m`dick
4lbert Wesker Mithril Forge E-R-A 284	Posted - 2015.07.01 14:54:00 - [4] - Quote Guys,it's lousy 10%!!! How can that tiny nerf have suck impact in your gameplay? Improvise Adapt Overcome Really,i feel like Clint Eastwood in this movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCYv40Ur1g Public skirmish = camping games, Public domination = officer sniping games, Public ambush = russian roulette
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 322	Posted - 2015.07.01 14:57:00 - [5] - Quote HTFU Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
DR DEESE NUTS 156	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:02:00 - [6] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Guys,it's lousy 10%!!! How can that tiny nerf have suck impact in your gameplay? Improvise Adapt Overcome Really,i feel like Clint Eastwood in this movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCYv40Ur1g Idiot doesn't know math. .7 to .6 is way more then 10%. It's around 15%. Plus the one percent nurf to assault speed that make it around 16%. That was only side to side. There were other speed nurfs to. That means a 50-60% increase to the nurf then which you thought.. Which is a lot if you think about it. The USS m`dick
4lbert Wesker Mithril Forge E-R-A 285	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:04:00 - [7] - Quote Isn't CCP told it will be 10% nerf for all assaults? Public skirmish = camping games, Public domination = officer sniping games, Public ambush = russian roulette

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:05:00 - [8] - Quote Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

roblox098 Second-Nature D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 88	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:07:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u I have to also agree Assault ck.0/Assault gk.0/Scout ck.0/Logistics gk.0 71.2 million SP
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 802	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:09:00 - [10] - Quote A YouTube video showing government officials as reptiles wouldn't be out of place in this thread. Saying what's on people's minds

Devadander Woodgrain Atari 322	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:13:00 - [11] - Quote All the wigglers are now in brick fits. I can't lel enough, its as if kdr was directly linked to waking up the next morning. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:15:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u 'nuff said CPM 2 Candidate CEO of DUST University
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:20:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ljtg5vXYQ Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:21:00 - [14] - Quote roblox098 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u I have to also agree I have farted somewhere in this thread. You must now locate and dispose of it before it goes critical and kills everyone. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:24:00 - [15] - Quote People need to adapt to the changes. It's too early to say if it's a bad or good thing. I personally like more strategic gameplay.
Magnus Belmont Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 78	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:25:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u LOL! You tell him rattati :D
VAHZZ Corrosive Synergy No Context 3	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:25:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u Oh shite
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 15	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:27:00 - [18] - Quote Funny how the wiggle dancers lament the lose of a glitch.... Movement is fine. Sorry you cant run in a circle avoiding 90% of enemy fire while relying on aim assist to kill your enemy anymore. Guess you'll have to play STRATEGICALLY... Personally I love it. Now fix the pistol glitch and Assault hoppers and the game mostly requires real thought instead of guys so used to glitches its the only way they know how to play.
Magnus Belmont Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 78	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:27:00 - [19] - Quote Also, the game should be more about aim and strategy. If your only good because your a fancy dancer, it's going to show now, and this isn't Ballroom 514 ya know D;
Minime Al Russian Rogues 83	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:31:00 - [20] - Quote Now I can kill lag users))))) bugagaga.

Spaceman-Rob Dead Man's Game 863	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:31:00 - [21] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: People need to adapt to the changes. It's too early to say if it's a bad or good thing. I personally like more strategic gameplay. I also like the more strategic gameplay, but that shouldn't be at the cost of restricting player movement making the game feel clunky.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:46:00 - [22] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: People need to adapt to the changes. It's too early to say if it's a bad or good thing. I personally like more strategic gameplay. I also like the more strategic gameplay, but that shouldn't be at the cost of restricting player movement making the game feel clunky. So you think it was perfectly ok to wiggle strafe through gun fire? THAT is what was game breaking. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Spaceman-Rob Dead Man's Game 863	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:49:00 - [23] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Spaceman-Rob wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: People need to adapt to the changes. It's too early to say if it's a bad or good thing. I personally like more strategic gameplay. I also like the more strategic gameplay, but that shouldn't be at the cost of restricting player movement making the game feel clunky. So you think it was perfectly ok to wiggle strafe through gun fire? THAT is what was game breaking. No I don't but I'm not sure it's worse than a clunky feeling game.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.01 15:54:00 - [24] - Quote It's a hell of a lot easier killing people now for me. Damn, I knew the wiggle wiggle was bad but this bad??? That's insane. You will all fall before Kirk. Lucent Echelon Chat Channel is fixed
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 17	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:00:00 - [25] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: It's a hell of a lot easier killing people now for me. Damn, I knew the wiggle wiggle was bad but this bad??? That's insane. You will all fall before Kirk. Exactly. I am shocked how much better my K/D is. So its sad how much of a cheat this was. This change has doubled my K/D in most games. So that means there were that many wiggle dancers every game. Ambush is now actually fun. Instead of some officer level ******* running up to me in open ground while plinking me down as I hide in cover I now smoke his proto ass. Honestly, I was going to quite the game until this change. It makes the game much more deliberate and strategic.
Balistyc Farshot MONSTER SYNERGY 250	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:09:00 - [26] - Quote DR DEESE NUTS wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: Guys,it's lousy 10%!!! How can that tiny nerf have suck impact in your gameplay? Improvise Adapt Overcome Really,i feel like Clint Eastwood in this movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCYv40Ur1g Idiot doesn't know math. .7 to .6 is way more then 10%. It's around 15%. Plus the one percent nurf to assault speed that make it around 16%. That was only side to side. There were other speed nurfs to. That means a 50-60% increase to the nurf then which you thought.. Which is a lot if you think about it. He is Clint Eastwood in this. BTW - You are just wrong. I have played a decent amount today and on my min ast with 2 kins, I still strafe just fine. Yeah, I can't run sideways as fast as forward, but that was a stupid mechanic to begin with. They fixed things. You want sluggish back and sideways, go try Battlefield, they have a 40% reduction to movement speeds that aren't forward, which is realistic. People now use cover and run the direction they are pointed, so leading them is possible. The 2 guns benefiting the most are the MD and snipers. Otherwise, stop dancing and aim for the other guy's head. "Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!" Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:25:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u Ahaha yesss! Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro püépü¬püƒpü»tºüpü«pâèpââpâêpéÆsÉ+püäpü+püÖ
Baltazar Pontain Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A. 177	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:33:00 - [28] - Quote I tooooootally disagree. Damn two different opinions, that sucks and life hurts. CCP go ahead and do more your vision. Too many people are whining (myself included). .... oh my god it is **** from the internet!! (quote from Dilbert).
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:48:00 - [29] - Quote Baltazar Pontain wrote: I tooooootally disagree. Damn two different opinions, that sucks and life hurts. CCP go ahead and do more your vision. Too many people are whining (myself included). .... oh my god it is **** from the internet!! (quote from Dilbert). I love Dilbert Lucent Echelon Chat Channel is fixed
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:51:00 - [30] - Quote I liiiike the changes. People actually get shot when bullets go through them. And no, these who try to brick tank die in a blink of an eye. Scouts, there's way more now. Assault gameplay is still good. Loyal to The State Member of State Protectorate // Belongs to Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline

Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:53:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u http://i.imgur.com/DMq6luu.gif O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Yoda Boss Dem Durrty Boyz 149	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:55:00 - [32] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u What!?!? It has feelings?!?! (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒGû¬.°n+í¤GÿåGùÅ.° GÖñGÖíTrade/saleGÖºGÖñ
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:58:00 - [33] - Quote I'm looking forward to trying my sentinel. I have a feeling the HMG will feel very nice now people can't dance through the bullets as easily. Played a game with my Amarr commando, was amazing. The speed increase is great, and the strafe changes didn't seem to be bad for it. Got to try my AR assault, as my most strafing suit it will be interesting to see how it goes.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 949	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:17:00 - [34] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u Not the momma! When I saw the URL I was PRAYING that was the video. + 1 to you Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 949	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:24:00 - [35] - Quote In regards to the topic, this is so much better than before. I didn't realize how many DDR514 players we had. When people are running you can actually follow them. If someone is running at you or doing the circle jerk, there seems to be bullets actually CONNECTING. Now this is more in line with a tactical shooter. Use movement, cover and avenue of approach to gain an advantage. Not a wiggle wiggle clusterfuck broken mechanic. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:25:00 - [36] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u 'nuff said How about representing the wishes of the community instead of hanging on every word from a blue post eh? Head so far.... the sun doesn't shine. "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 843	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:27:00 - [37] - Quote Thought the strafing nerf patch isn't implemented until tomorrow? I don't know, I haven't been able to login. Thanks CCP. I was on Monday, and it did seem laggy, though Shields, the silent killer.
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy No Context 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:35:00 - [38] - Quote Minime Al wrote: Now I can kill lag users))))) bugagaga. Is this the russian version of " muahahahahah ! : ? bugagaga ! CEO of Corrosive Synergy Preacher of FUN ,Teacher of LOLs Min Loyalist
Clone D Solo Zen 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:09:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u When you add too many constraints and reduce degrees of freedom of various aspects of the game you reduce complexity and intrigue. Please don't make Dust boring.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:19:00 - [40] - Quote Hmm. I'm gonna join the group of people adapting or dying. BTW on theory level I'm glad that this accidental buff - that for some reason remained - got reversed finally. In few weeks we are all smarter as we see how this unfolds. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.

Clone D Solo Zen 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:21:00 - [41] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back peeking over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:29:00 - [42] - Quote Clone D wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus. walking in and out of gunfire, the fact that you used to survive WALKING around hilltops and not get shot... and you saw nothing wrong with that.... Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:30:00 - [43] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Minime Al wrote: Now I can kill lag users))))) bugagaga. Is this the russian version of " muahahahahah ! : ? bugagaga ! I more feel it like hahahaha with implemented bug ergo bugagagaga XD "Caller of the Monolith"
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:31:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u Honestly boyko do not listen to him, this update is AWESOMELY helvete FABULOUS ;) "Caller of the Monolith"
Clone D Solo Zen 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:33:00 - [45] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Clone D wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus. walking in and out of gunfire, the fact that you used to survive WALKING around hilltops and not get shot... and you saw nothing wrong with that.... No, the technique was not about standing up on top of a hill out in the open. It was standing just behind the hilltop and peeking over; The closest thing we can get to peeking over/around objects without totally exposing our mercs to enemy fire. Being able to move in and out of cover is an important part of battle. Now, strafe speeds are slowed to the point that ttk is too fast to actually make it to cover, even if you're standing right beside it or nearly behind it.
Indianna Pwns TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros 182	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:36:00 - [46] - Quote Strafe was .6 of forward movement in chromosome and i dont remember hearing complaints about strafing back then from either camp. Its currently .7 which is still fasterthan chromosome. People just need to readjust I think.
Al the destroyer 0uter.Heaven 517	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:57:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u This is why we are in good hands +1 troll Rattati!
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 20:46:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u If I report your posts will you get baned? Closed beta vet. Master troll. No lifer. Master lurker.
IVIaster LUKE Art.of.Death 909	Posted - 2015.07.01 21:05:00 - [49] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: roblox098 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u I have to also agree I have farted somewhere in this thread. You must now locate and dispose of it before it goes critical and kills everyone. points finger Stop crop dusting bruh! Bad Brains - Bad Brains Achura Bloodline: War Monk.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 21:51:00 - [50] - Quote take note... only the scrubs are crying.

John ShepardIII Second-Nature 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 22:40:00 - [51] - Quote Most people wanted strafe to be nerfed. I said no it going to cause everyone stacking life and staying back everyone said I'm dumb, and now everyone want strafe back. I'm not saying it was you OP I'm just saying this is what the majority wanted Have No Fear. John Shepard Is Here! CEO of Second-Nature
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 952	Posted - 2015.07.01 22:45:00 - [52] - Quote Clone D wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Clone D wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus. walking in and out of gunfire, the fact that you used to survive WALKING around hilltops and not get shot... and you saw nothing wrong with that.... No, the technique was not about standing up on top of a hill out in the open. It was standing just behind the hilltop and peeking over; The closest thing we can get to peeking over/around objects without totally exposing our mercs to enemy fire. Being able to move in and out of cover is an important part of battle. Now, strafe speeds are slowed to the point that ttk is too fast to actually make it to cover, even if you're standing right beside it or nearly behind it. I run a Calmando, not exactly the most fleet of foot. I have no problems peeking around a building or cover and getting back in time. Most of the time I take minimal damage so even an ewar fit non bricked scout would survive. Amd they are a hell of a lot faster than my Calmando. I'm not running out into the open or on top of a hill doing a wiggle dance so people can't hit me. Now, the jumping over cover argument I can agree with. I think thw myofib jump bonus could be turned down amd just give a slight bump to jumping for all suits so a fat suit can jump over a crack without getting stuck. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 23:30:00 - [53] - Quote I like the change, then again I detest strafing to defeat gunfire and was pretty terrible defending against it. So its a win win for me. Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
deezy dabest Evil Syndicate Alliance. 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 23:53:00 - [54] - Quote I agree that it feels sluggish but I also feel like there is far more emphasis on gun game, tactics, and stamina management . It is just a huge difference that we all need time to adjust too. Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
Dzago Sevatarion DUST University Ivy League 48	Posted - 2015.07.02 00:41:00 - [55] - Quote Haven't missed it for a second. Stupid af mechanic. Even Tribes had logical movement limitations.
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 160	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:07:00 - [56] - Quote Yes, I can kill min's, and scout's, do I like this? Absolutely, shot's connect as intended, more strategy being used and someone deserve's thank's, RATTATI and his team. They give us a few golden egg's every now and then. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:19:00 - [57] - Quote Dzago Sevatarion wrote: Haven't missed it for a second. Stupid af mechanic. Even Tribes had logical movement limitations. long live Tribes
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 768	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:32:00 - [58] - Quote "Rattati you suck because now I actually have to use my head to survive instead of wiggling my way out" This whole thread summarised Click me
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 162	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:48:00 - [59] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: "Rattati you suck because now I actually have to use my head to survive instead of wiggling my way out" This whole thread summarised Are you the Pope? You should be, because your preaching the truth. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:51:00 - [60] - Quote So much bullshit from the anti-strafers itt. Let's put it this way: if hit detection could handle any strafe speed perfectly, would you want a higher strafe? I sure as hell would because i love the challenge of trying to handle the strafe/gungame of the best players in the game. Not a universal sentiment, it appears. Looks like the congregation has killed rock'n'roll. GG 'tactical players'. P.S. Adapting isn't the problem, tbh it's trivial. KDR will go up. White knuckled back-alley fights will go down. PSN: RationalSpark

Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 770	Posted - 2015.07.02 02:05:00 - [61] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: So much bullshit from the anti-strafers itt. Let's put it this way: if hit detection could handle any strafe speed perfectly, would you want a higher strafe? I sure as hell would because i love the challenge of trying to handle the strafe/gungame of the best players in the game. Not a universal sentiment, it appears. Looks like the congregation has killed rock'n'roll. GG 'tactical players'. P.S. Adapting isn't the problem, tbh it's trivial. KDR will go up. White knuckled back-alley fights will go down. This only counts to the scouts and Minmatar assault really since they're the strafe units of dust. Because no matter how good you are at this game, if they are faster by a huge margin they will strafe circles around you. No longer the case now Click me
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 162	Posted - 2015.07.02 02:11:00 - [62] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: So much bullshit from the anti-strafers itt. Let's put it this way: if hit detection could handle any strafe speed perfectly, would you want a higher strafe? I sure as hell would because i love the challenge of trying to handle the strafe/gungame of the best players in the game. Not a universal sentiment, it appears. Looks like the congregation has killed rock'n'roll. GG 'tactical players'. P.S. Adapting isn't the problem, tbh it's trivial. KDR will go up. White knuckled back-alley fights will go down. Let's put it this way: It can't handle it, so there's no point in trying to figure that out. Also, someone actually hurt over their balanced strafe speed? If you can out DPS someone all because of wiggle strafe, then there's something clearly wrong, no TACTICAL SHOOTER should ever allow massive strafe speed's to be actual skill, maybe small amount's of strafe, but nothing that ACTUALLY effect's the entire game system. So get used to it, and like what armor player's tell us shield player's: GIT GUD. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1	Posted - 2015.07.02 02:57:00 - [63] - Quote hahaha... someone had my post deleted, so I'll say it again. only scrubs are crying about the strafe nerf.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 574	Posted - 2015.07.02 04:53:00 - [64] - Quote HmmmGÇª. I predict this issue will smooth over in time. It isn't like Aim-Assist, where CCP had to get it right first time, or it just won't endure the wave of complaints we know will inevitably come. As Rattati expressed, this is one component that can be dialed forward or dialed back, until the sweet spot is found. It's not a "Full ON" or "Full OFF" thing we need to be afraid of. Yes, "tactical" does imply we should be using cover and sneaking and waiting for ground-support more, not rushing up and dancing our opponent to death as much as we still do. The game needs to make us more nervous and hesitant about "rolling up on him" all the time. BUT, if combat in New Eden is about tactics, the pressure (and our expectations) will fall on our Dropsuit technology to beef up enough to support our tactical actions. So now, if I AM going to hide behind the rock at far range, my Caldari suit better be worth SP I sank into its designGÇª my Amar suit better be good at powering the Hardeners the way I need, etc. This combat is now REALLY becoming a story about "suiting up" correctly. Can't bet your money on nimble feet anymore. I think CCP is well aware of thatGÇª and it's why they are perfecting suit characteristics at the same time as these strafe-tweaks they are doing. In spite of all our bantering,GÇª they do know their stuff. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Songs of Seraphim Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.07.02 05:03:00 - [65] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: hahaha... someone had my post deleted, so I'll say it again. only scrubs are crying about the strafe nerf. Couldn't agree with you more. I was sick and tired of trying to shoot someone while ADS while they just Eddy Gordo'd me. Especially with the Bolt Pistol. Four shots should have landed as head shots to the Minmatar Assault? Nah. Blue shields, no damage. GG Seraphim. -.- I'm having similar (or better) KDR since the update. Don't know why all the scrubs are crying over this. Filled three barrels of tears already. Achura Bloodline Loyalist of the State Reclaim Caldari Prime!
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.07.02 05:26:00 - [66] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: hahaha... someone had my post deleted, so I'll say it again. only scrubs are crying about the strafe nerf. Couldn't agree with you more. I was sick and tired of trying to shoot someone while ADS while they just Eddy Gordo'd me. Especially with the Bolt Pistol. Four shots should have landed as head shots to the Minmatar Assault? Nah. Blue shields, no damage. GG Seraphim. -.- I'm having similar (or better) KDR since the update. Don't know why all the scrubs are crying over this. Filled thrirteen swimming pools of tears already. Fixed Tech ohm remembers the replication disco dance and the qq when the insane strafe speeds were dialed down
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 58	Posted - 2015.07.02 06:04:00 - [67] - Quote This change is most positive since Chromosome, sometimes when engaging "8" moving matar assault i was just giving up, like "ah, just a game f@## this moonwalker". So, thanks, at least for me as solo player i have a chance against dancing logi + heavy combo. o7 The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 775	Posted - 2015.07.02 11:11:00 - [68] - Quote Lol the min will be enslaved again now they can't strafe their way out of whips' Click me
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 171	Posted - 2015.07.02 17:17:00 - [69] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: HmmmGÇª. I predict this issue will smooth over in time. It isn't like Aim-Assist, where CCP had to get it right first time, or it just won't endure the wave of complaints we know will inevitably come. As Rattati expressed, this is one component that can be dialed forward or dialed back, until the sweet spot is found. It's not a "Full ON" or "Full OFF" thing we need to be afraid of. Yes, "tactical" does imply we should be using cover and sneaking and waiting for ground-support more, not rushing up and dancing our opponent to death as much as we still do. The game needs to make us more nervous and hesitant about "rolling up on him" all the time. BUT, if combat in New Eden is about tactics, the pressure (and our expectations) will fall on our Dropsuit technology to beef up enough to support our tactical actions. So now, if I AM going to hide behind the rock at far range, my Caldari suit better be worth SP I sank into its designGÇª my Amar suit better be good at powering the Hardeners the way I need, etc. This combat is now REALLY becoming a story about "suiting up" correctly. Can't bet your money on nimble feet anymore. I think CCP is well aware of thatGÇª and it's why they are perfecting suit characteristics at the same time as these strafe-tweaks they are doing. In spite of all our bantering,GÇª they do know their stuff. Lol finally, someone who actually get's the idea. There has always been one critical issue for me and this game, it's not the hit detection, it's not the lack of content, and it's not the OP weapon's. It's the fact that I sink most if not ALL my SP into something and I hardly get my SP's worth, In most game's your awarded greatly and powerfully when you specialize your character in a certain form or style, be it uniquely magic or stealth, or being a straight up bad ass with a giant sword on your back, you the player, in this game, is not rewarded, even if you use the FOTM it's not a true reward, it's just another thing you skilled into. I'd love to have a much more in depth model of the Skill tree, where I can actually skill into the specific part's of the suit itself, and not just skill into basic to level 3 and assault to level 5 and be done with it, and then move on, that take's away from one's own personality, if you just skill into the next thing, be done with it, and move on. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.07.02 17:22:00 - [70] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Clone D wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus. walking in and out of gunfire, the fact that you used to survive WALKING around hilltops and not get shot... and you saw nothing wrong with that.... Which way do we look at this.... Are we truly in super far futuristic beast mode suits of armour with nanites that repair and overshields that can deflect huge munitions.... Or are we using weapons so advanced that its as if we are without armour anyway (i.e headshot kills, couple of chest shots kill etc like battlefield or cod..) You can't have it both ways. Put another way, what is ideal TTK and in what situation. (For example - A CR that kills an average suit with 1 bullet is clearly OP however a PLC that takes say 2 or more shots to kill that same suit would be pathetically UP) "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa

Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 241	Posted - 2015.07.02 17:27:00 - [71] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Guys,it's lousy 10%!!! How can that tiny nerf have suck impact in your gameplay? Improvise Adapt Overcome Really,i feel like Clint Eastwood in this movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCYv40Ur1g if it's just 10% then how come it makes such a big damn difference going from ADV to Proto? I warned people of this, lol.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 241	Posted - 2015.07.02 17:28:00 - [72] - Quote V1RONXSS wrote: This change is most positive since Chromosome, sometimes when engaging "8" moving matar assault i was just giving up, like "ah, just a game f@## this moonwalker". So, thanks, at least for me as solo player i have a chance against dancing logi + heavy combo. o7 throw a grenade scrub.
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 172	Posted - 2015.07.02 17:28:00 - [73] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Clone D wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus. walking in and out of gunfire, the fact that you used to survive WALKING around hilltops and not get shot... and you saw nothing wrong with that.... Which way do we look at this.... Are we truly in super far futuristic beast mode suits of armour with nanites that repair and overshields that can deflect huge munitions.... Or are we using weapons so advanced that its as if we are without armour anyway (i.e headshot kills, couple of chest shots kill etc like battlefield or cod..) You can't have it both ways. Wait so... If you went both ways..... That would make you Bi. Being serious though, we already do have beast mode suits of armor and shield's that can deflect huge munition's? That was a thing back in CB but let's not bring up old shield wound's. However we already have 1 shot head shot killing weapon's and a couple of chest shot type game play, most of which are in the form of scout's/logi's/ and non-tanked assault's, or the common academy player. So I don't really understand your comment, please elaborate. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.02 17:32:00 - [74] - Quote The tears, oh the tears. They are indeed delicious AND nutritious. Lucent Echelon Chat Channel is fixed
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 844	Posted - 2015.07.02 17:36:00 - [75] - Quote I havent run into any wiggle wiggle since the patch, but that might be because of my non confrontational play style (I much prefer to confront your butthole with my naughty bits). In any case wiggle wiggle is boring and annoying, I cant imagine anyone having fun doing it.
iKILLu osborne T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 824	Posted - 2015.07.03 05:23:00 - [76] - Quote I've not experienced the speed/strafe Nerf however it does concern me for paperscouts especially shield based. Can anybody tell me how this has impacted them? (n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs Retired 62mil sp, z platoon vet, og shotty
VAHZZ Corrosive Synergy No Context 3	Posted - 2015.07.03 05:35:00 - [77] - Quote Oh the tears! The wonderful tears! They sustain me oh so much. More! QQ more!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 627	Posted - 2015.07.03 06:51:00 - [78] - Quote Played a bit yesterday, didn't feel that much of a difference. I still can run left and right and avoid bullets, that's fine by me! WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME !
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 60	Posted - 2015.07.03 09:30:00 - [79] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: V1RONXSS wrote: This change is most positive since Chromosome, sometimes when engaging "8" moving matar assault i was just giving up, like "ah, just a game f@## this moonwalker". So, thanks, at least for me as solo player i have a chance against dancing logi + heavy combo. o7 throw a grenade scrub. lol O' The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 8	Posted - 2015.07.03 09:43:00 - [80] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Guys,it's lousy 10%!!! How can that tiny nerf have suck impact in your gameplay? Improvise Adapt Overcome Really,i feel like Clint Eastwood in this movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCYv40Ur1g 10% is the difference between std and proto weapons... Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you. I'm kind of a big deal. Get Dust ISK Here

Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 318	Posted - 2015.07.03 11:15:00 - [81] - Quote I didn't feel any change to the game speed. You must have been a Minmaturd user stacking Kinkats and Ferroscales. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST


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