DUST Search - Game feels sluggish.

Clone D wrote:

Tesfa Alem wrote:

Clone D wrote:

Thokk Nightshade wrote:

... cover ... to gain an advantage.

Cover is obsolete for the most part.

1. People jump over it and shoot down at you.
2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk.
3. Can't walk forward and back over hilltops faster than ttk.

This game is a slow turning rate flying circus.

walking in and out of gunfire, the fact that you used to survive WALKING around hilltops and not get shot...

and you saw nothing wrong with that.... Straight

No, the technique was not about standing up on top of a hill out in the open. It was standing just behind the hilltop and peeking over; The closest thing we can get to peeking over/around objects without totally exposing our mercs to enemy fire. Being able to move in and out of cover is an important part of battle. Now, strafe speeds are slowed to the point that ttk is too fast to actually make it to cover, even if you're standing right beside it or nearly behind it.

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Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:53:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u http://i.imgur.com/DMq6luu.gif O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Yoda Boss Dem Durrty Boyz 149	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:55:00 - [32] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u What!?!? It has feelings?!?! (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒGû¬.°n+í¤GÿåGùÅ.° GÖñGÖíTrade/saleGÖºGÖñ
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 16:58:00 - [33] - Quote I'm looking forward to trying my sentinel. I have a feeling the HMG will feel very nice now people can't dance through the bullets as easily. Played a game with my Amarr commando, was amazing. The speed increase is great, and the strafe changes didn't seem to be bad for it. Got to try my AR assault, as my most strafing suit it will be interesting to see how it goes.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 949	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:17:00 - [34] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u Not the momma! When I saw the URL I was PRAYING that was the video. + 1 to you Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 949	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:24:00 - [35] - Quote In regards to the topic, this is so much better than before. I didn't realize how many DDR514 players we had. When people are running you can actually follow them. If someone is running at you or doing the circle jerk, there seems to be bullets actually CONNECTING. Now this is more in line with a tactical shooter. Use movement, cover and avenue of approach to gain an advantage. Not a wiggle wiggle clusterfuck broken mechanic. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:25:00 - [36] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u 'nuff said How about representing the wishes of the community instead of hanging on every word from a blue post eh? Head so far.... the sun doesn't shine. "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 843	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:27:00 - [37] - Quote Thought the strafing nerf patch isn't implemented until tomorrow? I don't know, I haven't been able to login. Thanks CCP. I was on Monday, and it did seem laggy, though Shields, the silent killer.
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy No Context 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 17:35:00 - [38] - Quote Minime Al wrote: Now I can kill lag users))))) bugagaga. Is this the russian version of " muahahahahah ! : ? bugagaga ! CEO of Corrosive Synergy Preacher of FUN ,Teacher of LOLs Min Loyalist
Clone D Solo Zen 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:09:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u When you add too many constraints and reduce degrees of freedom of various aspects of the game you reduce complexity and intrigue. Please don't make Dust boring.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:19:00 - [40] - Quote Hmm. I'm gonna join the group of people adapting or dying. BTW on theory level I'm glad that this accidental buff - that for some reason remained - got reversed finally. In few weeks we are all smarter as we see how this unfolds. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.

Clone D Solo Zen 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:21:00 - [41] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back peeking over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:29:00 - [42] - Quote Clone D wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus. walking in and out of gunfire, the fact that you used to survive WALKING around hilltops and not get shot... and you saw nothing wrong with that.... Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:30:00 - [43] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Minime Al wrote: Now I can kill lag users))))) bugagaga. Is this the russian version of " muahahahahah ! : ? bugagaga ! I more feel it like hahahaha with implemented bug ergo bugagagaga XD "Caller of the Monolith"
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:31:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u Honestly boyko do not listen to him, this update is AWESOMELY helvete FABULOUS ;) "Caller of the Monolith"
Clone D Solo Zen 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:33:00 - [45] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Clone D wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus. walking in and out of gunfire, the fact that you used to survive WALKING around hilltops and not get shot... and you saw nothing wrong with that.... No, the technique was not about standing up on top of a hill out in the open. It was standing just behind the hilltop and peeking over; The closest thing we can get to peeking over/around objects without totally exposing our mercs to enemy fire. Being able to move in and out of cover is an important part of battle. Now, strafe speeds are slowed to the point that ttk is too fast to actually make it to cover, even if you're standing right beside it or nearly behind it.
Indianna Pwns TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros 182	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:36:00 - [46] - Quote Strafe was .6 of forward movement in chromosome and i dont remember hearing complaints about strafing back then from either camp. Its currently .7 which is still fasterthan chromosome. People just need to readjust I think.
Al the destroyer 0uter.Heaven 517	Posted - 2015.07.01 18:57:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u This is why we are in good hands +1 troll Rattati!
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 20:46:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u If I report your posts will you get baned? Closed beta vet. Master troll. No lifer. Master lurker.
IVIaster LUKE Art.of.Death 909	Posted - 2015.07.01 21:05:00 - [49] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: roblox098 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Clone D wrote: Agreed. Oh well. There goes our fun. You suck, Rattati. no u I have to also agree I have farted somewhere in this thread. You must now locate and dispose of it before it goes critical and kills everyone. points finger Stop crop dusting bruh! Bad Brains - Bad Brains Achura Bloodline: War Monk.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 21:51:00 - [50] - Quote take note... only the scrubs are crying.

John ShepardIII Second-Nature 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 22:40:00 - [51] - Quote Most people wanted strafe to be nerfed. I said no it going to cause everyone stacking life and staying back everyone said I'm dumb, and now everyone want strafe back. I'm not saying it was you OP I'm just saying this is what the majority wanted Have No Fear. John Shepard Is Here! CEO of Second-Nature
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 952	Posted - 2015.07.01 22:45:00 - [52] - Quote Clone D wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Clone D wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: ... cover ... to gain an advantage. Cover is obsolete for the most part. 1. People jump over it and shoot down at you. 2. We can no longer strafe out from behind cover and back faster than ttk. 3. Can't walk forward and back over hilltops faster than ttk. This game is a slow turning rate flying circus. walking in and out of gunfire, the fact that you used to survive WALKING around hilltops and not get shot... and you saw nothing wrong with that.... No, the technique was not about standing up on top of a hill out in the open. It was standing just behind the hilltop and peeking over; The closest thing we can get to peeking over/around objects without totally exposing our mercs to enemy fire. Being able to move in and out of cover is an important part of battle. Now, strafe speeds are slowed to the point that ttk is too fast to actually make it to cover, even if you're standing right beside it or nearly behind it. I run a Calmando, not exactly the most fleet of foot. I have no problems peeking around a building or cover and getting back in time. Most of the time I take minimal damage so even an ewar fit non bricked scout would survive. Amd they are a hell of a lot faster than my Calmando. I'm not running out into the open or on top of a hill doing a wiggle dance so people can't hit me. Now, the jumping over cover argument I can agree with. I think thw myofib jump bonus could be turned down amd just give a slight bump to jumping for all suits so a fat suit can jump over a crack without getting stuck. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1	Posted - 2015.07.01 23:30:00 - [53] - Quote I like the change, then again I detest strafing to defeat gunfire and was pretty terrible defending against it. So its a win win for me. Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
deezy dabest Evil Syndicate Alliance. 2	Posted - 2015.07.01 23:53:00 - [54] - Quote I agree that it feels sluggish but I also feel like there is far more emphasis on gun game, tactics, and stamina management . It is just a huge difference that we all need time to adjust too. Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
Dzago Sevatarion DUST University Ivy League 48	Posted - 2015.07.02 00:41:00 - [55] - Quote Haven't missed it for a second. Stupid af mechanic. Even Tribes had logical movement limitations.
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 160	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:07:00 - [56] - Quote Yes, I can kill min's, and scout's, do I like this? Absolutely, shot's connect as intended, more strategy being used and someone deserve's thank's, RATTATI and his team. They give us a few golden egg's every now and then. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:19:00 - [57] - Quote Dzago Sevatarion wrote: Haven't missed it for a second. Stupid af mechanic. Even Tribes had logical movement limitations. long live Tribes
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 768	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:32:00 - [58] - Quote "Rattati you suck because now I actually have to use my head to survive instead of wiggling my way out" This whole thread summarised Click me
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 162	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:48:00 - [59] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: "Rattati you suck because now I actually have to use my head to survive instead of wiggling my way out" This whole thread summarised Are you the Pope? You should be, because your preaching the truth. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.07.02 01:51:00 - [60] - Quote So much bullshit from the anti-strafers itt. Let's put it this way: if hit detection could handle any strafe speed perfectly, would you want a higher strafe? I sure as hell would because i love the challenge of trying to handle the strafe/gungame of the best players in the game. Not a universal sentiment, it appears. Looks like the congregation has killed rock'n'roll. GG 'tactical players'. P.S. Adapting isn't the problem, tbh it's trivial. KDR will go up. White knuckled back-alley fights will go down. PSN: RationalSpark



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