Btw, Frame, I really like your -264,000,000 SP

I think a lot of the people hanging on obviously want to see a promising future. These updates are great, but I hope CCP sees the potential in taking Dust to a new platform soon and announces something.

how do passive scans work now? are they still shared lol?

i mean after all... certain steps were taken against team shared passive scans in the past. what happens when 16 man team is one giant squad?

As someone considering giving up Dust all together, this actually sounds like quite a nice update... It will almost certainly make PC more important.

However, there's no sign of a fix for the "get half way through a match and watch the framerate drop to an unplayable level" issue, which renders it... Sadly, quite pointless.

However, a step in the right direction is a step in the right direction.

The only way that is going to happen is we lessen the amount of stuff we commit to memory in the game and there are a lot of designs in the works to aid in that. SKINs were designed solely to reduce the memory load attributed and Power Cores are also going to be a big push for performance.

Rest assured, performance is still one of my biggest priorities and I'm always trying to figure out ways to go about it. Including this thread .

Like always, there are a few things to consider.

- Balance issue potential
- Condensing the majority of FW into a single match. Perhaps randoms will say "well, I'm not in the big team deploy, there's clearly no point in playing FW". I would worry FW might downgrade into two teams that play each other over and over.
- Like above, lack of diversity amongst players.

It's not like these issues don't exist already mind you, but that doesn't mean we should design the game to make these flaws worse. Eventually, making FW battles 32v32, or even larger would help this.

But even then, we boil down to the problem of the small community to begin with.





End of the day, I just think we're being a little too premature with the freakouts on this matter. FW (along with a lot of other features) is getting a huge improvement. Let's remember that.

when is this going to be released?

I really feel like platoons and squads should be reconsidered. I was under the impression that platoons would essentially be a team deploy tool, not a replacement for squads. If this is not the case then that needs to be changed ASAP.

8 man squads is not practical in a 16v16 unless its a 3 point map. However, 6 man squads for 16v16 wasn't perfect either. Instead of changing the squad capacity, the amount of players in battle should be adjusted for FW and PC

Squads capacity should remain 6, and FW and PC should become 18v18, and platoons should hold squads, not replace them.

Also allow platoons in FW for flux sake

I really feel like platoons and squads should be reconsidered. I was under the impression that platoons would essentially be a team deploy tool, not a replacement for squads. If this is not the case then that needs to be changed ASAP.

8 man squads is not practical in a 16v16 unless its a 3 point map. However, 6 man squads for 16v16 wasn't perfect either. Instead of changing the squad capacity, the amount of players in battle should be adjusted for FW and PC

Squads capacity should remain 6, and FW and PC should become 18v18, and platoons should hold squads, not replace them.

Also allow platoons in FW for flux sake

Lolpowerchange

Lol

If you want matches to be 32v32 we need bigger maps. It would be easy too, just add to big sockets together like maybe a Gallente Research Facility on one end and Ace in the hole on the other end with a couple small sockets in between.

Indeed.

He isn't restricting ringers, therefore there will be no power change.

I foresee a few panic merges that is about it... a few neck beards can run multiple accounts in one corp and knock out enough daily missions for small ringer corps to get **** done.

Mid-Size PC corps are virtually unaffected as the biggest deterrent is not enough DK points to sell clones for profit vs moving clones to attack... so they just ring in other battles with the "take what you kill" mechanic and get rich anyway.

They will still retain large district holdings. Mass attacks can and will be done by alt corps due to the free ringing...

All I see here is another store and a few extra clicks to do ****...

I guess it is the thought that counts tho...

Nah.

The corps currently in power (0.H and Cap ac) use full corp teams more often than not anyways. Ringer teams have not held any sort of power for half a year now.

Now with these changes of only getting rewards for fighting for your own corp more people will be doing PC's for their own corp to get the DK's not wanting to ring for others which generally results in losing isk with the keep what you kill mechanic.

Ringer corps will pretty much be playing under the old PC system where the only reward is "Take what you kill." Which 99% of PC feels is terrible way to play. So with that being said there is no benefit to alt corps, ringer corps or ringer teams when you compare it to corp teams.

I guess you will still have ringers in small corps who can not possibly field a full team, but i doubt people will go out of there way to be a corp counting 100% around ringers as it is not as profitable and ringers will be harder to find.

Why ring for other corps and lose isk, when you can play for your own and make it?

Nah.

The corps currently in power (0.H and Cap ac) use full corp teams more often than not anyways. Ringer teams have not held any sort of power for half a year now.

Now with these changes of only getting rewards for fighting for your own corp more people will be doing PC's for their own corp to get the DK's not wanting to ring for others which generally results in losing isk with the keep what you kill mechanic.

Ringer corps will pretty much be playing under the old PC system where the only reward is "Take what you kill." Which 99% of PC feels is terrible way to play. So with that being said there is no benefit to alt corps, ringer corps or ringer teams when you compare it to corp teams.

I guess you will still have ringers in small corps who can not possibly field a full team, but i doubt people will go out of there way to be a corp counting 100% around ringers as it is not as profitable and ringers will be harder to find.

Why ring for other corps and lose isk, when you can play for your own and make it?