Cantus...why you feed troll...I posted sign..."NO FEED TROLL". Trolls break into your car and look for candy bars and smoke your pot, they hide under bridges to look up womens skirts and are, by nature, creatures who jerk it to girls gone wild, when you feed the trolls, they buy live longer and buy more girls gone wild. When Girls Gone Wild videos are purchased, they advertise, when they advertise they make my girlfriend aware that there is smut out there in the world, when she is aware of this she begins to monitor my internet use, when she does this she finds my web history of asian **** and gets angry, when she gets angry I have to cancel my subscriptions, when I do this Asians **** stars lose their money, when they lose their money their children die

FEEDING THE TROLLS KILLS ASAIN BABIES!!! STOP IT.

You will get to know these gankers soon enough when you begin encountering them during a player-contracted battle, assuming you ever get bored of NPC contracts and their meager payouts... whether you want to or not. This is not a threat. This is a promise.

You get no isk or SP if you leave before a match completes, punishment enough since open spots are filled by other randoms when they open.

Oh yeah that too. Get nothing from the match. Basically get nothing, lose more is how it should be.

Very good. Delete troll posts!

+1 for MOD

Dear MUDDY,

If you will keep saying thing like "STOP Dust from evolving", "PUNISH player for his decisions", "You have no right to runaway" (because your testing gear sucks)..."Those who don't want to start punish ppl are infidels..." And you know who is saying things like that? Terrorists...or other type of extremist...so if you keep saying things like that, most of us (if that will only be possible) will add you in Dust in war list...I'm sure that some ppl will do that, and when the game LUNCHES, most of beta players will bring their Corps from EvE to Dust, and then you will have at least 1 Corp bounty on your head...lot of corps have about billions of ISKs in their wallet...so paying 500k ISKs for you head is great businesses, just for making the point.

You are not getting CCPs point becouse you didn't play EvE...ok. You are here for mistake. You've played CoD, BF3 and you were fantastich [GER].

BUT if you would have EvE even for trial account, you would get the point of these battles...

Point in EvE is to give everything to players, where you can be spy in corp, pirate killing others, harmless miner, even you can control market!! Economy in EvE is in players hands. You can do anything you want to...Even get to the center of solar system and start destroying everything that moves just for fun

Every body who quit battles because their scared will be known by people whose interested of it, they wont get to the corp...and without corp they wont to much Thats the corps who decides on battle score...THEY will shape universe in the way THEY WANT TO...

Best regards
Boogl 47

"Trolling" is just state of your mind....state in witch you can't discus your opinion with others, in that case players who know CCP and their politics, because they're playing EvE for years/months, they attend on EvEfast, who talk with DEVS. You are just trying to make everybody say your right, but as you see lot of users, has partially agreed with you, even me.

The punishment for players will be status / standing loosing, not gear, equipment, you can always "get" money from somewhere. Me, after official lunch, I'll transfer about 10mln ISK to buy primary stuff. So this is not the way to punish me. The punishment will be, as I said before, STANDINGS loose of deserters, but first of all they must find way to check who is leaving battle "because so", and who is having technical difficulties.
PPL who will be punished because of poor Internet connection will stop playing, pll whose PS is in bed shape, or HDD is to slow won't play...at this is not the point...the point is to keep as much Mercs on server as it is possible. Make ppl fall in love with this game and buy new console, gadgets, and stuff.

We are here to participate BETA TESTS, to tell to the devs what to improve to make it better place for all of us, even BF/CoD 12-yo funs. Player have to have possibility to choose: ether he/she want to help EvE players gain territory and win battles, or spreed the name of it's corp all around the galaxy for profits, or win battles by spying, sabotage, and dirty tricks. The punishment is in our hands, WE decide with who to battle, against who. If somebody quits during your match and you will be the contract issuer then spreed the news that this and that player is quitter, but other pll will decide do they want to believe you or not. I might want to hire quitter who will go and accept my opponent contract, and sabotage his army from inside.

Why don't you want people to decide who to trust?
Why the LoyalityPoints is not enough for you?
You really thing that taking my stuff will be punishment? Lets make test...You will take my car because I was speeding, and I will spreed noisy, dirty gossip about you round your friends...who will have easer? I will by new stuff, new car.

Give me something after wich I could say: "You are right, there should be punishment.", or lets discus..

WARNING! All participants of discussion MUST have open mind / extremists or any kind of fanatics don't like to discus. Their more like dictators. /

ALL EXTREMISTS OR FANATICS ... PLZ...DON'T POST. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKE TO READ THE SAME SENTENCE EVERY 3 POSTS ON 8 PAGES? TO MUCH...

(I could spend this time for something much more significant in my life like...scratching my ass)

I don't play EVE and don't know/care about half the **** you just told me. Nor did I bother to read it.

Its common sense, you took a contract and you quit as Mud puts it 'when the going gets tough' so you should be punished

With freeze issue I'm trying to point that not every quit is desertion.
I already agreed that there should be punishment, but it must be separated deserter / technical difficulties. It's unfair with the ppl whose house catches on fire or had to quit because their grandma died, or dog were run by car. In that case I suggest RATIO system. Deserted/finished battles, and after certain point you get that Deserted Ribbon (it's very good idea MUD), but if you start to play nice, finishing battles etc. it should be gone...every body can change.

EnglishSnake
You wrote something very important
And I agree fully with that. I forgot about one major thing about contracts...contract = money, and after breaking the contact you always pay penalty.

I had my so eyes fixed on assets and standings that i forgot about money.

So contract penalties and ribbons (after certain ratio) are my proposition to end this discussion.

And you know that argue is juts between Us? CCP can give a sh** about our discussion pleas put me right if I'm wrong.

TBH the Hulkaggedon argument in comparision to this is to put it bluntly, ******* useless

I can't imagine CCP doing anything other than laughing at the idea that we need something like this to protect the poor corporations from heinous misdeeds.

Very good. Delete troll posts!

+1 for MOD

Dear MUDDY,

If you will keep saying thing like "STOP Dust from evolving", "PUNISH player for his decisions", "You have no right to runaway" (because your testing gear sucks)..."Those who don't want to start punish ppl are infidels..." And you know who is saying things like that? Terrorists...or other type of extremist...so if you keep saying things like that, most of us (if that will only be possible) will add you in Dust in war list...I'm sure that some ppl will do that, and when the game LUNCHES

Best regards
Boogl 47

So, quitters suck. We all know this, so lets think of ways to punish them for quitting out of a game. I don't know if there's anything in place right now to discipline people who back out of games, so excuse me for simply repeating whatever it is place now (if anything is).

First off, give them a loss. (Obviously)
Second off, keep a statistic of how many games said person has backed out of.
Third off, make them lose some gear. I'd say the equivalent of dying 3 times would suffice.

Now I know that real life gets in the way, and sometimes we gotta leave the game and take care of business. Sorry to tell you this, but tough luck. Even though, said person shouldn't have started a game anyway. I'm not sure if this should be applied to disconnects, though if I had to choose I'd say it should apply.

So yeah, discuss.

Actually, it's not a useless argument. The Carebears of New Eden have been demanding for a long time that CCP make the punishments more strict against the high-sec suicide gankers because they think that ganking is griefing and that high-sec should be a sanctuary for AFK-mining, Fuzzy-Wuzzy carebears. In reality, they fail to realize that CCP doesn't like a safe high-sec (ironic).

My point is that if CCP has that kind of mentality for Eve Online, what makes people think that CCP will act any differently in DUST?