There you go again. Assuming I haven't. There's an old saying about assuming that I think you might want to become familiar with. In the meantime, please try to come to terms with the fact that someone can read every word you wrote and still think it's bullshit.

Not really, the length of the vulnerability time isn't the slightest bit relevant. The fact that you can be stabbed in the back is. Stories about stuff like this happening is what Eve is known for. The first future vision trailer for Dust was all about this. I can't see any good reason to put a hard mechanic in place to discourage this behavior. Not only is it counter-productive, it's totally the opposite of CCP's hands off style.

So you might lose if people leave the battle early? Good. If the battle is really important then bring people you trust. Use social methods of protecting yourself instead of relying on some carebear-esque game mechanic. If you hire on someone you don't trust yet and are taking them into an important battle then set up a contract where they give you isk and you return it after the battle. If they don't stay for the whole battle you keep their money. Kick out people who screw you over. Over time you'll build up a core of trustworthy players and become known as a reliable mercenary corp. That's the metagame Dust was created for. Without that it's just another generic shooter.

good grief... Hey, EnglishSnake why don't you go play Cod or what ever game you crawled off of FFS and give the rest of us a break.

Yet again learn to read

Oh god no, not the stat padders! Someone's e-peen might be bigger than mine!

Listen kiddo, I appreciate you're hopped up on hormones and the "I'm always right" thing of youth, so I'll cut you a minor bit of slack here. I'm not getting into the little forum quote picking games because that's just pathetic. This all hinges on one thing: You said a lot of stuff, and then you formed a conclusion that was opposite everything you said. The term "cognitive dissonance" might be of interest to learn here. If you can honestly say that you believe both that people are crashing and that they're just quitting to pad stats, and then follow up by saying you mostly think it's for stat padding, then you've invalidated your previous statements within the same post.

You need reading comprehension. Simply reading what you wrote doesn't mean you understood it.

"As a corp dont want to recruit a bunch of ppl who have inflated stats but when it comes down to it they are utterly useless"

So kick the people who are useless. Every business in the real world takes that risk every time they hire someone. People are not always what they appear to be. It seems that you need to, as CCP puts it, HTFU. It's a bad thing because it interferes with the metagame, to fix something that isn't even a problem.

So you're suggesting a solution to a problem that we don't have, based on parameters that you assume will be in the game later, and getting upset that we aren't all lifting you on our shoulders and shouting your name to the sky?

What exactly are you expecting here?

Feedback/Requests

Also if you use freezing as your counter argument then your a dumbass tbh because i really dont expect CCP to release the game freezing up every 3 matches and also ther is difference when you purposly leave a match by pressing a series of buttons and hitting the reset button

If anything a punishment system would be put in when the game is alot more stable



Only reason why i think ppl are against this is because they quit a lot themselves

I have a proposal that both punishes people who quit and saves people who crash.

Simply use a system similar to dota. If you disconnect from a match, you have x amount of time to reconnect. So when you go to the battlefinder, it will have a RECONNECT button there and something like a FORFEIT CONTRACT button. You can't take another contract until you pick one of these buttons. If you do not choose within the time limit, it is counted as a forfeit.

This way, someone crashing can rejoin the game (his slot will be saved for X amount of time) and keep his score. Any suits he lost will still be lost but he will be rewarded for finishing the match.

Someone choosing to FORFEIT CONTRACT to stat pad or whatever reason can then be punished as harshly as CCP wants.

To take it further, Forfeits could also be tracked and once you reach a certain point (like a percentage overall or a flat figure for a certain time frame *eg 3 per day* you will receive an "abandoner/deserter" status for x amount of time (or matches) where you cant accept certain contracts. These would be contracts where a corp has set "no deserters" as a condition (some NPC contracts will be set to this and players will have this option too)

EDIT: expanding on this because of all the talk of backstabbing.

Basically im in the "NO FREE INTEL" camp. Any deserter status would be completely invisible to everyone except the deserter. The system could also be implemented only for NPC contracts. This way people can't just join random games and leave when its not going their way because nothing is at stake. This way people are still free to backstab each other in player contracts as much as they want.

Hell I played a game this morning where I couldn't respawn. Screen said press 'O' to respawn and I was mashing it like a mofo but there was no respawning going on. At one point my shield/armor had regenerated to 100% and I was still dead, no respawning going on. If the match wasn't almost over I'd have had to quit the match to keep playing. The idea of getting punished that would have really ground my gears.

By the way.. DUST 514 did NOT make a positive impression on my Nephew.. too laggy.. not responsive enough for him..and no.. the 14 yr old FPS crowd doesn't have the patience for EVE-like skill training. He did like some of the gameplay though. But he still went back to playing CoD, MW3 and Battlefield 3.

And I'm saying you need to lose more.

When my Nephew played his first match he did not know he had to buy more than 1 of everything. Guess what? You can't respawn after losing all your equipment.. the only choice is to wait until the game kicks you out of the match. I am betting a LOT of first-timers to DUST are discovering this. I did this too the first couple of times I played.. until I realized "INVALID" on the dropsuits meant I had ZERO left to spawn with. Only choice is to quit. So I bet most of the "quitters" are from FREEZES, the known bug with being killed at the moment your shield and armor re-gen, and from the new people seeing "INVALID" on the suits they want to spawn with. Understanding why a suit is INVALID is NOT intuitive to an expert FPS gamer like my 14 year old Nephew. As a matter of fact.. it wasn't Intuitive to me either. I learned the hard way, just like my Nephew did that you had to purchase multiple copies of everything. Heck I bet a lot of the "quitters" are hitting the "INVALID" dropsuit issue. It wasn't really clear to me at first WHAT was INVALID about my dropsuits. By the way.. DUST 514 did NOT make a positive impression on my Nephew.. too laggy.. not responsive enough for him..and no.. the 14 yr old FPS crowd doesn't have the patience for EVE-like skill training. He did like some of the gameplay though. But he still went back to playing CoD, MW3 and Battlefield 3.

I'm finding it very hard to stop myself from insulting the intelligence of you and your nephew right now.

Well, if his family raised him to understand what the word "beta" means, and to not be a quitter...
Am I the only person left on the planet that sees not understanding something as a challenge rather than an excuse to walk away?

I had to delete my first 3 attempts at a reply honestly. They were just reflexively incredibly harsh.