if thats the case (he's getting a pay-off from another corp) what spy would be the least bit concerned about being deserter ribbons or a rejoin penalty? we're talking about the people who are quitting out because the game is going badly or they didn't achieve the KDR they wanted so badly.

you simply can't allow them to quit without any consequence whatsoever.

So I guess what I am saying is the punishment should be eventually working for NPC's all the time.

Nobody is crashing when they get into a game that they're attacking in and not defending. Stop with the excuses.

OK thing that happen seem to be you lose what ever gear you lost and there is no pay out what so ever sp or isk

Unfortuantly MUD i donno how your not having same issues as rest of mabye your internet conection is particularly good or something but there are serious hard freezes happening during battle to the extent that it happens 1 evey 3 matches on average.

As it stands i do agree the quiters as you call them or as i would call them deserters should be penilized in the military deserting/being awol is a serious offence and can lead to being court mashaled.

In Dust at very least there should be a mark against you for all the times you deserted mabye a desersion count which would meen eve players would not trust theem to well and neiter would other Dust mercs making them less trust worthy to team with.

As for a actual loss of equipment to me at this moment in time of the build of the game it would not make sence but heres me using sence again. Now on the other hand if at the begining of a battle you must choose what recorses to commit to the fight not only would this add more depth to the game and a extra tactical depth it would also meen if you desert the guy you just screwed has your gear to do what with donno but he has it and there is a loss one that must be considered.

Now with all that said it should not be implemented till the hard freezes are fixed as alot of people will get absolutly screwed so when the game runs properly i do agree this should be implemented.

I wonder how you could possibly know this. Oh, wait, you can't. There were some days when I was getting 3-4 disconnects every HOUR. So stop with the presumptions already, would you?

says you, I've froze several times and as for excuses I haven't seen anybody make one.

And I'm saying you need to lose more.

I have a proposal that both punishes people who quit and saves people who crash.

Simply use a system similar to dota. If you disconnect from a match, you have x amount of time to reconnect. So when you go to the battlefinder, it will have a RECONNECT button there and something like a FORFEIT CONTRACT button. You can't take another contract until you pick one of these buttons. If you do not choose within the time limit, it is counted as a forfeit.

This way, someone crashing can rejoin the game (his slot will be saved for X amount of time) and keep his score. Any suits he lost will still be lost but he will be rewarded for finishing the match.

Someone choosing to FORFEIT CONTRACT to stat pad or whatever reason can then be punished as harshly as CCP wants.

To take it further, Forfeits could also be tracked and once you reach a certain point (like a percentage overall or a flat figure for a certain time frame *eg 3 per day* you will receive an "abandoner/deserter" status for x amount of time (or matches) where you cant accept certain contracts. These would be contracts where a corp has set "no deserters" as a condition (some NPC contracts will be set to this and players will have this option too)

EDIT: expanding on this because of all the talk of backstabbing.

Basically im in the "NO FREE INTEL" camp. Any deserter status would be completely invisible to everyone except the deserter. The system could also be implemented only for NPC contracts. This way people can't just join random games and leave when its not going their way because nothing is at stake. This way people are still free to backstab each other in player contracts as much as they want.

"In DUST quitting could mean alot more, a group of spies quitting at a key moment could really shaft you"

Welcome to Eve.

As this is all going to be tied to Eve and we will eventually be hired by Eve contractors I think some sort of record would a good indicator of a soldiers worth. If Eve players can hire specific mercs for specific contracts, no one will hire the dude who craps out every other match and costs them a buttload of money. Punishment should be something like the standings system with corporations in Eve. Everytime you complete a contract your standing with that corp should go up. If you decide to quit before the contract is completed the corporation in Eve then knows you are untrustworthy and will likely not hire you again.

So I guess what I am saying is the punishment should be eventually working for NPC's all the time.

So what you're saying then is it's something that happens, and is intended to happen within the Eve universe. Dust is Eve. But this happening is...something we need to discourage?

Cognitive dissonance much?

Dont really read a thread so you?

This can be spies/stat padders/quitters in general

When you quit a game in DUST the team loses a player from then which can lose the match which may effect something later on down the line

Its not like EVE when you log on you play and you dont really quit as such, ther is no organized battles with a timer

Do you even play eve? We have organized battles all the time. People set their alarm clocks so that when we show up to defend something we have more firepower than the other guys. And get this, the reason these alarm clocks get set is that we have timers. If the defenders aren't in place with enough force before the pos / station / poco enters vulnerability, then you lose. A corp being paid off to not show up as expected, or turn on the defenders, would affect a hell of a lot more than a Dust battle could. You could wind up losing thousands of dollars worth of isk, assuming you were foolishly rich and actually bought it all.

Only reason why i think ppl are against this is because they quit a lot themselves

I know I'm showing my age here, but what the hell is wrong with this new generation? This is the most bizarre form of self centric thinking I've ever witnessed, and I'm starting to see it everywhere. They assume everyone is exactly like they are, and make judgments about them accordingly.

It's a beta, people are crashing left and right. Look around the forums and you'll see thread after thread either giving detailed information about what they were doing when they crashed or just ranting incoherently about how much the game sucks because of all the crashing. But no, apparently to these little brats everyone else is lying and is just quitting to better their stats that we all know are going to be wiped several times over in the course of testing.

Why would they think that? Methinks they doth protest too much.

If your first assumption is that everyone else playing this game is trying to screw you over just to make a little number in their profile bigger you're either paranoid, or that's how you play it and assume everyone else is too.

Its your age

Re read my entire post