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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2015.06.19 13:27:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:USSHI wrote:What is the "Otenta"? I couldn't find such Japanese sword. If it's not famous enough or cool, feel free to propose another :) But it's actually one of the famous five swords, also written as Odenta.
I've only known it as Odenta, well what about murasame, its a pretty known sword too.
"Some walks you got to take alone" - Oregairu
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Ace Ravager
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.19 13:59:00 -
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This how I think it should work
Amarr should be more like names of gods
Caldari could be all the tech stuff
Gallenete would be freedom and bull crap
Minmatar should be anything relating to duct tape
Come here for some Officer Gear
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Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.06.19 14:25:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Rattati... Name the suits and thats that. Naming every theoretical suit is too much.
Name the suits with those boss names you already have. Adv std and proto. Include a name before the suit which will list the types of weapons it has by damage profile and tank type.
Example
Suit name garm (commando m/1)
Damage profile weapon 1 - projectile
damage profile weapon 2 - PROJECTILe
Result "Double tempest garm"
Armoe tanked - azura
End result
"Double tempest azura garm"
So what does the name say?
I got killed by an armor tanked dual projectile weapon using advanced minmatar commando.
Maybe this will make your life easier?
Make this appear in the name of the fitting Not every theoretical suit, every unique combination of faction, role and tier
Stick to Faction/Role. Keep MIL, STD, ADV, PRO prefix. It'll be too much otherwise. Also, if possible it would be a useful enhancement of the NPE to use the industry standard WoW style color coding for meta.
Best PvE idea ever!
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.19 14:50:00 -
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Japanese wicked spirits for Caldari Scouts 
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.19 15:13:00 -
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So uh typical 'swords and weapons' type things usually fall under matari naming scheme, though I could see the asiany influenced stuff going to the caldari (but eve already has stuff like state shuriken / tanto / katana / etc).
I think it would maybe be best to define an overarching theme / scheme and then name things based on that? Ie: Scouts = 'ewar' so each scout gets a name that fits it ie, amarr = diviner, caldari = hawk, etc, Where sentinels = defenders/strength oriented = so caldari = Oni, Gallente = Atlas, Minmatar = Jotunn, Amarr = Behemoth... or something like that.
Would you be looking to provide a name to each and every powercore (3 powercores + 1 apex / suit)? or just the individual suits (5 names per race)?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
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Posted - 2015.06.19 15:15:00 -
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I read the spreadsheet, and I think that my main concern is that if tieracide is going to be a thng, and the only difference between them is the powercore, then perhaps instead of having so many names, just name each racial suit once. Since suits are going be similar across tiers, and skins can further mask suit identy, it seems more important to be able to identify if it is a gal sentinel, or cal light, or min logi, rather than have many unique names for 1 suit type. The current list is 225 great names, but if each suit type was names once, then you could have 32 solid suit names. The difference for most suits between basic through proto will likely be only relatively small stat increases anyway. If perhaps append a few letters or numbers at the end to make distinctions between roll apparent for tacical reasons (you could also do powercore suffixes, but I like the idea of masking suit grade as it makes it less frustrating to be killed by better or worse suits than yours)
I guess the main point is that if there are 225 different suit names, then I likely won't ever refer to them by those names. I'd just call it a cal scout, or gal medium, rather than the cool names you've provided. Currently I largely ignore the 'prefixes' of AUR gear anyway as they aren't the important bit of info I want to convey, (grade, race, roll, like ADV Cal Assault) And if the idea is that you'd rather players use the names and feel imersed in the cool world of new eden, I believe that in this instance, less is more. Learning 1 new name per suit type is easy enough where players would do it without thinking in a week, learning 225 names is hard enough where many people will choose not to learn it ever.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.19 15:37:00 -
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Alright, I've got some sleep and it looks like the spreadsheet has changed dramatically from before, I'm not sure if that was just me being tired or now but this...this is awesome.
Good Job We've been wanting this for a while now.. I can't tell you how happy I am to see accurate names on this list.
Truly a time to be alive in DUST.
TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.19 15:42:00 -
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These are various names from hebrew, if you see anything that sounds cool feel free to use them.
Nahash = +á+ù+¬ = Snake
Nemiya = +á+P+Ö+ö = Mongoose
Netz = +á+Ñ = Hawk
Nesher = +P+¬+¿ = Vulture
Namer = +á+P+¿ = Leopard
Aryeh = +É+¿+Ö+ö = Lion
Levia = +£+æ+Ö+É+ö = Lioness
Kelev = +¢+£+æ = Dog
Ze'ev = +û+É+æ = Wolf
Hatul = +ù+¬+ò+£ = Cat
Gamal = +Æ+P+£ = Camel
Hanit / Romah = +ù+á+Ö+¬ \ +¿+P+ù = Spear
Herev = +ù+¿+æ = Sword
Magen = +P+Æ+ƒ = Shield
Gehenom = +Æ+Ö+ö+á+ò+¥ = Hell
Seder = +í+ô+¿ = Order
Sheryon = +¬+¿+Ö+ò+ƒ = Armor
Yanshuf = +Ö+á+¬+ò+ú = Owl
Shefifon = +¬+ñ+Ö+ñ+ò+ƒ = A type of snake
Loa = +£+ó = Maw
Zanav = +û+á+æ = Tail
Barzel = +æ+¿+û+£ = Iron
Nechoshet = +á+ù+ò+¬+¬ = Copper
"To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
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idlerowl
Old-Type
Loud and Dawn
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Posted - 2015.06.19 17:54:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:USSHI wrote:What is the "Otenta"? I couldn't find such Japanese sword. If it's not famous enough or cool, feel free to propose another :) But it's actually one of the famous five swords, also written as Odenta.
o7
Yes . That sword called 'Odenta' 
Japanese DUST player are thinking , "More cool name is ...?",
ex) Four Symbols (China and Japan gods said to rule over the four directions )
Genbu - God of the big tortoise-The rule of north
Suzaku - kind of the phoenix -The rule of south
seiryu - blue dragon - The rule of east
byakko - Gods of white tiger - The rule of west
pÇÇ And I suggest " Kirin (Qilin) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin "
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:12:00 -
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idlerowl wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:USSHI wrote:What is the "Otenta"? I couldn't find such Japanese sword. If it's not famous enough or cool, feel free to propose another :) But it's actually one of the famous five swords, also written as Odenta. o7 Yes . That sword called 'Odenta' Japanese DUST player are thinking , "More cool name is ...?", ex) Four Symbols (China and Japan gods said to rule over the four directions ) Genbu - God of the big tortoise-The rule of north Suzaku - kind of the phoenix -The rule of south seiryu - blue dragon - The rule of east byakko - Gods of white tiger - The rule of west pÇÇ And I suggest " Kirin (Qilin) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin " Many ideas are given immediately. Just wait.
I would give Caldari Scout the name Seiryu, love that name.
"To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:23:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:idlerowl wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:USSHI wrote:What is the "Otenta"? I couldn't find such Japanese sword. If it's not famous enough or cool, feel free to propose another :) But it's actually one of the famous five swords, also written as Odenta. o7 Yes . That sword called 'Odenta' Japanese DUST player are thinking , "More cool name is ...?", ex) Four Symbols (China and Japan gods said to rule over the four directions ) Genbu - God of the big tortoise-The rule of north Suzaku - kind of the phoenix -The rule of south seiryu - blue dragon - The rule of east byakko - Gods of white tiger - The rule of west pÇÇ And I suggest " Kirin (Qilin) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin " Many ideas are given immediately. Just wait. I would give Caldari Scout the name Seiryu, love that name.
Lanttulaatikko is better look it up, although your's, "Maple" is tasty Lanttulaatikko is better!
Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
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CoochMaster Flex
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:06:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Dear lore enthusiasts as part of the progression feature we are working on, I decided to go for a thematic approach, inspired by EVE Online. Something a little more exciting than "Minmatar Combat Standard Loadout". I really like how EVE players refer to their ships, "took my dual repped Manticore out for a spin yesterday", instead of "I took my light tech 2 Caldari frigate out for a spin". So I took on, what I thought would be difficult, but was not prepared for just how difficult, to name all theoritical loadouts, per faction and role, including aur variants. I based many of the names off of the forum thread IWS managed and other community suggestions, and two lore masters from EVE, and of course my own enthusiasm of great sounding names and lore. Now over to you, I would appreciate any final feedback and suggestions, to hone the list. Please just say "replace X with Y because", that will make it easier for me to organize. Finally, there are some finnish, japanese and religious terms, that I would like native speakers to comment on because I don't want to be offensive, because I liked how something sounded.  . List of Loadout Names
So this is more important than fixing all the little bugs and lag? Wow
I'm not a slayer. I just get lucky.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:57:00 -
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These are great. It's good to see a healthy mix of finnish and japanese in the Caldari titles, and I even remember seeing a few names here from that old thread about deciding the name for loyalty ranks. I was already giddy when I say some of the names of the APEX suits, but these are outstanding!
The only thing I'd really like to see are Draugr for the Minmatar as a few people have mentioned, and replace Shogun in the Scout C/1 slot with either kappa (a Japanese water spirit that drowns children) or raiju ("thunder beast" which works well for shock troops.) You already have Shogun under the sentinel slots, and I think it would be much more fitting to keep it there instead of applying it to the lightly armored scouts.
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
> --Killer of Snowfall Station--
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:24:00 -
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I just realized something!
You're doing all that, but you won't rename my Assault Rifle to a Plasma Rifle?
*Cries free Gallentean green tears*
"To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
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Avallo Kantor
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:24:00 -
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CoochMaster Flex wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Dear lore enthusiasts as part of the progression feature we are working on, I decided to go for a thematic approach, inspired by EVE Online. Something a little more exciting than "Minmatar Combat Standard Loadout". I really like how EVE players refer to their ships, "took my dual repped Manticore out for a spin yesterday", instead of "I took my light tech 2 Caldari frigate out for a spin". So I took on, what I thought would be difficult, but was not prepared for just how difficult, to name all theoritical loadouts, per faction and role, including aur variants. I based many of the names off of the forum thread IWS managed and other community suggestions, and two lore masters from EVE, and of course my own enthusiasm of great sounding names and lore. Now over to you, I would appreciate any final feedback and suggestions, to hone the list. Please just say "replace X with Y because", that will make it easier for me to organize. Finally, there are some finnish, japanese and religious terms, that I would like native speakers to comment on because I don't want to be offensive, because I liked how something sounded. . List of Loadout Names So this is more important than fixing all the little bugs and lag? Wow
Please stop with this argument. It has never worked the way you think it does, and never will.
Not everyone who works at Shanghai are amorphous blobs all capable of programming and fixing bugs. Because of that simple fact, not everyone can work on bugs. That means you have other people who work on other things. Things such as adding a naming scheme can be very code light, but with a far heavier cost in lore team / creative developers. (These people, as a general rule, are not expected to have the skills to program the game)
You can't assume people working on item A means that item B is not being worked on.
"Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:32:00 -
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The name of the thread is misleading. From the title and OP I thought it was just about renamed the preckaged fits, or "loadouts," but I hear it's about renaming all suits.
The spreadsheet was also a mess, but I see now it's more orderly than when I first saw it. I do wish it was organized into clearly labeled a separated spaces. It's still a mess.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Pahapa Org
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:00:00 -
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Some of those Finnish loadout names aren't Finnish
Tarapitha' ADV CA-MTarapitha' Basic-M ck.0finnish soft gods
Rasetsu' PRO CA-MRasetsu' Assault C/Ifinnish power gods
Stallo' PRO CA-MStallo' Assault C/Ifinnish power gods
^haven't got a clue what those are..
as for...
Tursas' PRO CA-MTursas' Basic-M C/Ifinnish soft gods
iku-turso is more in line with our mythology. iku prefix meaning eternal and has been in existence from the beginning of time.
Though Tursas or Turisas can also be used depending which Finnish soft god you want to use
Turisas, god of war equipped with a bow
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.20 03:08:00 -
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Pahapa Org wrote:Some of those Finnish loadout names aren't Finnish
Tarapitha' ADV CA-MTarapitha' Basic-M ck.0finnish soft gods
Rasetsu' PRO CA-MRasetsu' Assault C/Ifinnish power gods
Stallo' PRO CA-MStallo' Assault C/Ifinnish power gods
^haven't got a clue what those are..
as for...
Tursas' PRO CA-MTursas' Basic-M C/Ifinnish soft gods
iku-turso is more in line with our mythology. iku prefix meaning eternal and has been in existence from the beginning of time.
Though Tursas or Turisas can also be used depending which Finnish soft god you want to use
Turisas, god of war equipped with a bow
Tursas, a demon that causes sickness with it's arrows.
My shorthand for "finnish" can also be sami/esti in origin. Rasetsu is the APEX suit and is of course japanese in origin.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.20 03:11:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The name of the thread is misleading. From the title and OP I thought it was just about renamed the preckaged fits, or "loadouts," but I hear it's about renaming all suits.
The spreadsheet was also a mess, but I see now it's more orderly than when I first saw it. I do wish it was organized into clearly labeled a separated spaces. It's still a mess.
No, it's about loadouts not suits.
The spreadsheet had two sheets, one was "Random names" and the other was "Proposal".
If you read the random names, then yes, it was random. not the other one. That is ordered by race, size and tier.
You can copy the data and make a pivot table and share that if you want :)
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.20 03:43:00 -
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Rasetsu is a japanese buddhist interpretation of the rakshasha... which can also be known as an Asura. Rasetsu in particular embody negative emotions / aspects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakshasa
They were nigh-immortal, warlike 'man-eaters' that lived off violence, death and blood, and were near impossible to truly kill. They show up in buddhist literature. "the defeated antagonist of the Buddha, Mara also known as Namuci or the "Dark One" is described as a corrupted Asura whose army consisted of "Sensual passions, Discontent, Hunger and Thirst, Craving, Sloth and Drowsiness, Terror, Uncertainty, Hypocrisy and Stubbornness, Gains, Offerings, Fame and Status wrongly gained, and whoever would praise self and disparage others" (Sn 3.2 Padhana Sutta). The Asuras try to capture the devas and bind them. However, not all Asuras are Rakshasas."
I've always thought of the Rasetsu embodying the Caldari's predatory instinct, where they kind of hold it up and go "This is our demon. This is the sum-total of us at our worst".
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.20 03:48:00 -
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Also rattati, what number of names are we looking at here? Like are we just naming the suit? Or are we having suits be influenced by powercore or what?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.20 04:44:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Also rattati, what number of names are we looking at here? Like are we just naming the suit? Or are we having suits be influenced by powercore or what?
Imagine there is a "standard" loadout for all tiers factions and roles, so around 200 unique combinations
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.20 07:28:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Mina Longstrike wrote:Also rattati, what number of names are we looking at here? Like are we just naming the suit? Or are we having suits be influenced by powercore or what? Imagine there is a "standard" loadout for all tiers factions and roles, so around 200 unique combinations
I'm... still a little confused.
Are there going to be standard fittings? I'm still not sure how this would work with powercores.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Gallente Guide
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.20 07:57:00 -
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Woah, I thought you're giving suits names like ships in EVE.
Now I'm totally lost 
"To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.20 08:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Woah, I thought you're giving suits names like ships in EVE. Now I'm totally lost
Dropsuit + Gear = Loadout
create a named Loadout for each "normal" Dropsuit (i.e. Adv Gallente Assault )
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.20 08:46:00 -
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So we're naming every individual dropsuit from mlt, bsc, adv, & pro? for just the dropsuits?
I think this presents some issues in that there will just be way, way too many names. Part of the reason that people remember all the eve ships is because they each do something unique (ie, osprey, caracal, moa, blackbird are all caldari cruisers, but they each do something unique). There is so much overlap with dust dropsuits that it probably should really just be 1 name per role (+ the unique apex names?).... or something. I'm not terribly sure.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.20 09:57:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Woah, I thought you're giving suits names like ships in EVE. Now I'm totally lost Dropsuit + Gear = Loadout create a named Loadout for each "normal" Dropsuit (i.e. Adv Gallente Assault )
I think I get it.
Each frame type, role and tier will have a prefitted named "Loadout", like the Defender Special Issue suites. That way a new player will have a "rolemodel" for each tier which they can draw inspiration from. Basically it's a little like the "Mastery" discussion we had a while back, but with real suite Loadouts which you can earn or buy (I guess).
We already have a few (or all?) of them already in-game, but they are just called "Caldari ADV Assault". CCP Rattati just wants to name them some cooler names.
Now, the question I have:
I thought the names of the loadouts were not visible in-game, and the only way to "name" a suite was to create a new "item" in the database (I.e name the unique suite the Loadout name). After all, what we call our own loadouts is not shown, and in the kill feed you only see the suite name.
If this is the case, won't these 200 "unique" loadouts negate a lot of the power core idea?
(Unless you have already taken steps to counter this of course  )
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Sergei Domar
Rautaleijona
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Posted - 2015.06.20 10:13:00 -
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Ok Finnish time. Here are some notes I gathered.
Generally top tier names in non particular order. These sound just great from finnish pov. Should be names for proto kits. Here are those names with translation/explanation.
-Perkele (Devil, also light swear word)
-Ahti (God of sea/water)
-Vipunen (Giant, wise man)
-Ukko ("Old man" main god)
-Piru (Devil, little devil)
-Hiisi (Place or pagan entity)
-Otso (Bear)
-Surma (Murder, Deadly Obstacle in mythology)
-Akka (Old evil lady that rules north)
-Tuoni (=Tuonela, land of the dead)
Then there are some notes on where few names should be placed or some problems with names.
-Vipunen -> Logi or Heavy. He was giant, but also wise man. Both roles per name would do fine
-Ukko -> Definetly Sentinel. Main god, thunder god. You have this twice by the way.
-Piru & Hiisi, should both be scouts, not basic frames. These names would be such good on scout as its "higher tier".
-Perkele -> Assault or Commando Proto. You need to understand. Perkele is not just swear sword/devil in finnish. It describes entire finnish mentality. This has to be either proto assault or proto commando. Some reference material on diffirent ways how to say it, texts might not make much sense but you get the idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaMFziAE0l0
-Nakki -> Erm. In modern finnish it means wiener, kinda funny name for suit don't you think? I think you meant "N+ñkki" but it doesn't work with a.
-Otso -> Heavy, Commando or sentinel. Means bear.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.20 12:13:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Woah, I thought you're giving suits names like ships in EVE. Now I'm totally lost Dropsuit + Gear = Loadout create a named Loadout for each "normal" Dropsuit (i.e. Adv Gallente Assault )
Out of curiosity, do loadouts act as new suits like the different color variations? Are we potentially losing performance due to added memory cost from having additional loadouts?
Vote #TeamGreen
Because if you don't, the Caldari will be the next ones who are bias!
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.20 13:00:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Woah, I thought you're giving suits names like ships in EVE. Now I'm totally lost Dropsuit + Gear = Loadout create a named Loadout for each "normal" Dropsuit (i.e. Adv Gallente Assault ) Out of curiosity, do loadouts act as new suits like the different color variations? Are we potentially losing performance due to added memory cost from having additional loadouts?
nope
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