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CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.19 05:03:00 - [1] - Quote Dear lore enthusiasts as part of the progression feature we are working on, I decided to go for a thematic approach, inspired by EVE Online. Something a little more exciting than "Minmatar Combat Standard Loadout". I really like how EVE players refer to their ships, "took my dual repped Manticore out for a spin yesterday", instead of "I took my light tech 2 Caldari frigate out for a spin". So I took on, what I thought would be difficult, but was not prepared for just how difficult, to name all theoritical loadouts, per faction and role, including aur variants. I based many of the names off of the forum thread IWS managed and other community suggestions, and two lore masters from EVE, and of course my own enthusiasm of great sounding names and lore. Now over to you, I would appreciate any final feedback and suggestions, to hone the list. Please just say "replace X with Y because", that will make it easier for me to organize. Finally, there are some finnish, japanese and religious terms, that I would like native speakers to comment on because I don't want to be offensive, because I liked how something sounded.. List of Loadout Names "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.19 05:43:00 - [2] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: For one, the Gallente Combat Loadout is complete horrid and needs a change. Unless I'm looking at an older fit we really need to swap out the three armor plates for two armor repairs and a Ferroscale plate. Dual Repped G-1 we are not discussing loadout fitting in this thread. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.19 07:31:00 - [3] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: Overall good names, although I can only comment on the sound of them as well since I'm not Finnish or Japanese. If you ever desire to use Swedish gods and monster names, I might be able to help One question: Since you seem to have separate names for all different tiers, how will this mesh with the tiericide / PowerCore idea (if that becomes a thing?) Will the name then move to the power core? an adv loadout will be a std dropsuit with adv powercore, the loadout is still "unique" "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.19 07:51:00 - [4] - Quote USSHI wrote: What is the "Otenta"? I couldn't find such Japanese sword. If it's not famous enough or cool, feel free to propose another :) But it's actually one of the famous five swords, also written as Odenta. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.19 08:14:00 - [5] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Forget the names....what are minmatar and amarr drop ships doing on the list? It couldn't be......could it? Sorry to burst your bubble, but what? These are all dropsuit loadouts. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.19 09:03:00 - [6] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Forget the names....what are minmatar and amarr drop ships doing on the list? It couldn't be......could it? Sorry to burst your bubble, but what? These are all dropsuit loadouts. Should have checked the second spreadsheet before posting.... The first spreadsheet has names for vehicles listed. Well, it does say "Random Names" and not "Proposal", but I have removed it and any confusion "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.19 09:05:00 - [7] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Rattati... Name the suits and thats that. Naming every theoretical suit is too much. Name the suits with those boss names you already have. Adv std and proto. Include a name before the suit which will list the types of weapons it has by damage profile and tank type. Example Suit name garm (commando m/1) Damage profile weapon 1 - projectile damage profile weapon 2 - PROJECTILe Result "Double tempest garm" Armoe tanked - azura End result "Double tempest azura garm" So what does the name say? I got killed by an armor tanked dual projectile weapon using advanced minmatar commando. Maybe this will make your life easier? Make this appear in the name of the fitting Not every theoretical suit, every unique combination of faction, role and tier "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.20 03:08:00 - [8] - Quote Pahapa Org wrote: Some of those Finnish loadout names aren't Finnish Tarapitha' ADV CA-MTarapitha' Basic-M ck.0finnish soft gods Rasetsu' PRO CA-MRasetsu' Assault C/Ifinnish power gods Stallo' PRO CA-MStallo' Assault C/Ifinnish power gods ^haven't got a clue what those are.. as for... Tursas' PRO CA-MTursas' Basic-M C/Ifinnish soft gods iku-turso is more in line with our mythology. iku prefix meaning eternal and has been in existence from the beginning of time. Though Tursas or Turisas can also be used depending which Finnish soft god you want to use Turisas, god of war equipped with a bow Tursas, a demon that causes sickness with it's arrows. My shorthand for "finnish" can also be sami/esti in origin. Rasetsu is the APEX suit and is of course japanese in origin. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.20 03:11:00 - [9] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: The name of the thread is misleading. From the title and OP I thought it was just about renamed the preckaged fits, or "loadouts," but I hear it's about renaming all suits. The spreadsheet was also a mess, but I see now it's more orderly than when I first saw it. I do wish it was organized into clearly labeled a separated spaces. It's still a mess. No, it's about loadouts not suits. The spreadsheet had two sheets, one was "Random names" and the other was "Proposal". If you read the random names, then yes, it was random. not the other one. That is ordered by race, size and tier. You can copy the data and make a pivot table and share that if you want :) "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.20 04:44:00 - [10] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Also rattati, what number of names are we looking at here? Like are we just naming the suit? Or are we having suits be influenced by powercore or what? Imagine there is a "standard" loadout for all tiers factions and roles, so around 200 unique combinations "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"



CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.20 08:15:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Woah, I thought you're giving suits names like ships in EVE. Now I'm totally lost Dropsuit + Gear = Loadout create a named Loadout for each "normal" Dropsuit (i.e. Adv Gallente Assault ) "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.20 13:00:00 - [12] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Woah, I thought you're giving suits names like ships in EVE. Now I'm totally lost Dropsuit + Gear = Loadout create a named Loadout for each "normal" Dropsuit (i.e. Adv Gallente Assault ) Out of curiosity, do loadouts act as new suits like the different color variations? Are we potentially losing performance due to added memory cost from having additional loadouts? nope "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.20 13:01:00 - [13] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Woah, I thought you're giving suits names like ships in EVE. Now I'm totally lost Dropsuit + Gear = Loadout create a named Loadout for each "normal" Dropsuit (i.e. Adv Gallente Assault ) I think I get it. Each frame type, role and tier will have a prefitted named "Loadout", like the Defender Special Issue suites. That way a new player will have a "rolemodel" for each tier which they can draw inspiration from. Basically it's a little like the "Mastery" discussion we had a while back, but with real suite Loadouts which you can earn or buy (I guess). We already have a few (or all?) of them already in-game, but they are just called "Caldari ADV Assault". CCP Rattati just wants to name them some cooler names. Probably in conjunction with the NPE they are working on. Now, the question I have: I thought the names of the loadouts were not visible in-game, and the only way to "name" a suite was to create a new "item" in the database (I.e name the unique suite the Loadout name). After all, what we call our own loadouts is not shown, and in the kill feed you only see the suite name. If this is the case, won't these 200 "unique" loadouts negate a lot of the power core idea? (Unless you have already taken steps to counter this of course ) Spot on, not worried about powercores, that's not happening imminently, but I am thinking ahead. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.22 09:21:00 - [14] - Quote Zaria Min Deir wrote: Sergei Domar wrote: Ok Finnish time. Here are some notes I gathered. Generally top tier names in non particular order. These sound just great from finnish pov. Should be names for proto kits. Here are those names with translation/explanation. -Perkele (Devil, also light swear word) -Ahti (God of sea/water) -Vipunen (Giant, wise man) -Ukko ("Old man" main god) -Piru (Devil, little devil) -Hiisi (Place or pagan entity) -Otso (Bear) -Surma (Murder, Deadly Obstacle in mythology) -Akka (Old evil lady that rules north) -Tuoni (=Tuonela, land of the dead) Then there are some notes on where few names should be placed or some problems with names. -Vipunen -> Logi or Heavy. He was giant, but also wise man. Both roles per name would do fine -Ukko -> Definetly Sentinel. Main god, thunder god. You have this twice by the way. -Piru & Hiisi, should both be scouts, not basic frames. These names would be such good on scout as its "higher tier". -Perkele -> Assault or Commando Proto. You need to understand. Perkele is not just swear sword/devil in finnish. It describes entire finnish mentality. This has to be either proto assault or proto commando. Some reference material on diffirent ways how to say it, texts might not make much sense but you get the idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaMFziAE0l0 -Nakki -> Erm. In modern finnish it means wiener, kinda funny name for suit don't you think? I think you meant "N+ñkki" but it doesn't work with a. -Otso -> Heavy, Commando or sentinel. Means bear. Yeah, I had a chuckle about the wiener too ;) N+ñkki is the correct spelling. I mean, if the point is to just have obscure and kind of cool sounding names, most of these are alright for that (though some of them I'd not use at all), but I'd personally change them around some, like for instance that Otso definitely fits a heavy frame better than any medium. Nothing offensive or bad in them though, other than please don't use "Nakki" :D Which ones would you not use at all? :) I think N+ñkki means murder so it sounded awesome , wiener not so much. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"