I got 4500 WP in a min logi without shoving my Rep tool up a heavy's arse.

if wp are used to encorouge equip use, and any point-whoring logi with a rep tool will tell u... they are.

this is how i imagine whoring each race:

give cal logi an additional injector upgrade bonus, +%hp restored and +%points maybe.

ammar just needs to be not broken. everyone would choose the half time links if they hung around. also maybe a uplink hp bonus?

gal scanners get assists off anyone they scan for, but... :)
when you're in squad = only your squad see the scan
when your're not in a squad=everyone else who is not in a squad see your scans.
maybe increase scan assist points?

min logi is pretty cool, incoming speed buff should help survival.
just gimme a decent vehicle rep tool ccp!

Giving a suit the capacity to stack more HP than others whilst still being faster is the reason scouts got smacked. This is gonna lead to the same thing with logis.

It's also the reason why assaults are going to get smacked. The point of Rattati's Speed / HP Curve is to ensure an inverse relationship between the two metrics. If Logis are to be slower than Assaults, they should have more HP than Assaults. If Logis are to maintain HP levels which are lower than Assaults, then they should be faster than Assaults.

My two cents, of course.

You were still in a min logi. And I'm not saying that I haven't gotten 4500 wp before, actually my best is about 5800. Its not typical though, especially in anything other than a min logi.

I play a lot logi. Amarr, Gallente and Minmatar At the moment I like Amarr logi most.

It is so cool to support your team with ultra fast uplinks and also be able to fight well.
A long time I played minmatar and was a rep slave but I needed a change badly.

My personal opinion is that those logis are all fine.

But I lack experience with caldari logi. I will skill him next and be curious how it performs.

Anyone else feel like the Logi is lacking ? I feel it's not where it should be. I rarely see them around at all. I'm talking about Bonuses and their Performance !

The Minmitar Logi I feel is working properly no change needed there. The bonuses it gets to the repair tool is a great bonus. This Logi I see always on the field, behind tanked out suits.

The Amarr Logi is useless due to the bonus disappearing when you die. What's the point of this ? Do they expect you to stay alive 24/7 ? I feel this should be changed to if you die and change suits, the bonus disappears. Otherwise this Logi is Scrap.

The Caldari Logi is what I feel is underperforming. Although it does get bonuses to basically all its equipment, but just about everybody carries either a needle or Nanohives on their suit. I don't know how to fix this.

Now the Gal Logi is an interesting one, I can say its on par with with the Minmitar Logi as performaning properly. If fitted properly, this Logi can certainly help the team greatly win battles. This Logi is usually always seen.

I beg to differ. I'm a bred Gal Logi and before I started using other roles on the field, I would average roughly 4500-5500 wp just about every match. (Before the Logi nerf of Hotfix Echo - AKA the worst moment in Dust history) That average was purely from uplinks, nanohives, needles, and a somewhat decent amount of reps.

My best wp score was 9900wp. (Even after hotfix Echo and on a really good day) On some other good days my following high scores ranged between 7200 and 8500.

So to say that higher scores are not typical in anything other and a Min Logi is just extremely incorrect. Survivability of the Logi is what will make your ability to get higher wp totals.

The minmatar logi is in a good place and the gal logi isn't far behind. Amarr and caldari logis are rather pointless. No one needs a cal logi cos everyone can carry godly numbers of hives and the amarr logi loses its bonus when dead. Why use them if they are sub par?

So why does the minmatar get a bonus to the repair tool if being a logi is an entirely different thing??? Dont tell me its different if one race can have and the others cant just because.

Or just give every logi a bonus to the rep tool with the min logi being the best to use it on.

nah, sounds like u skilled into the wrong logi and are now jealous of minmatar.
you'll get more sp dont worry.

See here you're comparing Ships to suits that in if itself is strange enough and what are you talking about? He is saying just because one game has it does not mean this game will be just as good with it. Again that is a ship battle, this is an fps

Flimsy justification, but Minmatar are hit and run fighters so giving them a repair tool bonus let's them ensure their team can go back to skirmishing with the enemy more quickly.

Flimsy though, like I said. You could accomplish this same thematic goal by letting them give teammates kinetic catalyzer-type enhancements (perhaps at the cost of their own movement speed).

So why does the min logi get the bonus then? Not a single person can explain why. I keep getting told it can't transfer over from a ship sim to an fps yet the min logi gets a bonus like the one in EVE. Don't you see the lack of logic in thta argument?

Hit and run is not what the rep tool is for. The rep tool is for prolonged engagements. If you wanted justification for a decent hit and run bonus it would be self tank rep

Videos or it didn't happen. As of maybe 6 months ago, shayz posted a video of a 7200 wp game. He was tearin **** up the whole match. I can't see how you could be getting that every match.

Logis need more speed. Also the time it takes switching from rep tool to weapon is too damn long.

Having your own decent self repair fits skirmish warfare better than having someone with a rep tool do it.
And WP whoring aside, it makes the most sense that a suit that's main role is repairing and resupplying gets a bonus to the one piece of equipment that helps them to do that.

I also think that all logis should get bonuses to all equipment so that every logi is better carrying out their role. The main bonus they get should make their racial equipment better on their suit and the others should get a smaller bonus so they are better than other suit that can carry equipment except that logi.
I personally don't think a logi should be stuck to only being good at one thing.

So you're just largely going to ignore what other people have said then eh?

Well, delocalized repping is better for skirmish warfare as it allows you to truly min-max your suits as you can rely on someone else for reps. This is something that's demonstrable in eve where a lot of the 'power' fleets rely on a handful of logi's to provide all the reps (and usually much better reps than any individual ship could mount), in exchange for not fitting local tanks (and instead fitting buffer) they can fit damage mods or the like.

The logistics role is not about repairing or resupplying unless you are playing a minmatar or caldari logi. Minmatar are the rep logi's it is also a known fact that repair tools provide disproportionate WP gains. Caldari are the re-supply logi's. The universal bonus that makes logi's better than say assaults is the fitting cost reductions for equipment and the three to four equipment slots.

You can use whatever equipment you choose, you do not need a bonus to it. If you don't like what a particular logi is oriented towards don't ****ing skill into it.

logi's are not just about repping people and warpoint whoring. claiming or believing that they are is an incredibly narrow viewpoint.

"My narrow view is the only thing that's true". And you wonder why people are unwilling to engage with you on this subject?