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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.06.16 18:48:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
We have also been busy on the SKIN front, and the plan is to finally be able to remove the unique BPO's and replace them with SKINs. We were hit with a little curveball from EVE, improved tools for us all, but slowed down our pipeline while we got used to the new tools.
But.... but..... my C-II !!!
it better have a really cool ass paint scheme if you're gonna rob it from me lol
You'll never have enough ISK to buy my C-II BPO
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.06.16 19:11:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:One change we will be implementing is a flat strafe speed reduction, from 90% of forward speed to 70%. DUST 514 is a tactical shooter. This change can be debated, but probably not averted, but it could be reverted in a later hotfix. Maybe you want to clarify your definition of a tactical shooter, because for the past 2+ years Dust has never been anything near what you're inciting. Furthermore, I have always questioned the wiggle wiggle witch hunt movement. I agree, Hit detection is not perfect, but by all means a player does not become invincible by moving back and forth. So my question is this: Is Dust 514 now a branded tactical shooter and therefore strafing is no longer a needed mechanic? or Are we reducing Strafe speed because it is a proclaimed hit detection problem?
Does it matter?
All I know is that the reduced strafe speed will serve to benefit those who can strafe well and unpredicatbly vs those who have relied on whizzing around in a circular pattern as fast as possible.
The average player will now have an easier time tracking predictable strafers who relied previously on pure speed and aim assist. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.16 19:13:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:
You'll like it.
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.06.16 19:18:00 -
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Foehammerr wrote:I Don't Know if This Was Touched on or already known, but if strafe speed is being naturally reduced, heavy plates need to be rebalanced. If they aren't, anyone who uses them will be unable to move any other direction but forward. They pretty much won't be used at all.
Armour plates are percentage based, therefore the loss in strafe speed from equipping them at 0.7 strafe speed compared to 0.9 strafe speed will actually be smaller.
Strafe speed on a heavy will for example already be so slow that a 5% penalty from a complex plate will be negligible.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.16 19:23:00 -
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Foehammerr wrote:I Don't Know if This Was Touched on or already known, but if strafe speed is being naturally reduced, heavy plates need to be rebalanced. If they aren't, anyone who uses them will be unable to move any other direction but forward. They pretty much won't be used at all.
Forward is dependent on how YOU define it. To me, forward is whichever way I happen to turn towards. Not necessarily where my target is at. To me, I don't strafe side to side to dodge bullets. I zig zag in random directions to throw off my opponent's shots. That usually means I'm NOT facing my target while doing this while still being able to accurately guess where he/she is when I am turning.
So what I am trying to say is that the nerf to strafing will NOT affect me in any way as I do not rely on that method.
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Dust User
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.16 19:39:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Dear players,
I just want to speak up and let everyone know that we are working on really good features, that have taken a lot of effort from me and the whole team. Hence the silence.
On the hotfix front, I have been considering a complete limited tiericide, ie. removal of slot progression from all dropsuits.
We have also been busy on the SKIN front, and the plan is to finally be able to remove the unique BPO's and replace them with SKINs. We were hit with a little curveball from EVE, improved tools for us all, but slowed down our pipeline while we got used to the new tools.
However, due to all these complexities, we may need to fold logistics and commando slot changes into the next release, instead of deploying through a planned hotfix Foxtrot.
One change we will be implementing is a flat strafe speed reduction, from 90% of forward speed to 70%. DUST 514 is a tactical shooter. This change can be debated, but probably not averted, but it could be reverted in a later hotfix.
We still aim for a cool Event with an awesome reward, and a Newsletter with another very cool reward, so lots of things happening.
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.16 20:01:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:We need more clarifications on some of tge items mentioned. Here is obe question in regards to BPOs.
I bought a quafe bpo suit (and matching methana car). This suit its a basic caldari scout but in pinkish/purple color. Because it us a bpo suit and NEVER!!! runs out this suit saves me 3,000 isk per death. With the new changes will the suit become consumable? With the flattening of slot progression instead of different tiers of suits we're going to be getting one suit per role, per race (Plus officer suits and other small exceptions). So instead of having over 100 suits, we'll have closer to the range of 20. All these suits will become BPOs, and instead of having, say, Standard, Advanced, and Prototype Amarr Sentinel, we'll instead just have Amarr Sentinel with a Standard, Advanced, or Prototype Power Core. So you won't have the Quafe dropsuit BPO anymore, but you'll have a Quafe SKIN BPO that can be applied to your dropsuit, which will be changed to a BPO with the upcoming slot progression update. I could be wrong, though, because I haven't been up to date on tiericide in a while. Things may have changed since I last looked.
Im not sure how i feel about that, as a bpo owner myself.....
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Yokal Bob
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.16 20:41:00 -
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Wait, i'm confused,
Question: Are you saying that everything I have spent money on ie mercenary pack, veteran pack, elite pack etc will be turned into something completly and utterly useless? Take away the meaning of why they were purchased in the first place?
Vote Dust for PS4
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.16 21:33:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Dear players,
I just want to speak up and let everyone know that we are working on really good features, that have taken a lot of effort from me and the whole team. Hence the silence.
On the hotfix front, I have been considering a complete limited tiericide, ie. removal of slot progression from all dropsuits.
We have also been busy on the SKIN front, and the plan is to finally be able to remove the unique BPO's and replace them with SKINs. We were hit with a little curveball from EVE, improved tools for us all, but slowed down our pipeline while we got used to the new tools.
However, due to all these complexities, we may need to fold logistics and commando slot changes into the next release, instead of deploying through a planned hotfix Foxtrot.
One change we will be implementing is a flat strafe speed reduction, from 90% of forward speed to 70%. DUST 514 is a tactical shooter. This change can be debated, but probably not averted, but it could be reverted in a later hotfix.
We still aim for a cool Event with an awesome reward, and a Newsletter with another very cool reward, so lots of things happening.
Good to see that you took my advice where i questioned what the point is in the logi balance when you aswell work on tiericde/power core idea. Cause ya know Tiericide/power core idea basically embraces a logi buff due to same slots among tiers.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.16 22:04:00 -
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Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:We need more clarifications on some of tge items mentioned. Here is obe question in regards to BPOs.
I bought a quafe bpo suit (and matching methana car). This suit its a basic caldari scout but in pinkish/purple color. Because it us a bpo suit and NEVER!!! runs out this suit saves me 3,000 isk per death. With the new changes will the suit become consumable? With the flattening of slot progression instead of different tiers of suits we're going to be getting one suit per role, per race (Plus officer suits and other small exceptions). So instead of having over 100 suits, we'll have closer to the range of 20. All these suits will become BPOs, and instead of having, say, Standard, Advanced, and Prototype Amarr Sentinel, we'll instead just have Amarr Sentinel with a Standard, Advanced, or Prototype Power Core. So you won't have the Quafe dropsuit BPO anymore, but you'll have a Quafe SKIN BPO that can be applied to your dropsuit, which will be changed to a BPO with the upcoming slot progression update. I could be wrong, though, because I haven't been up to date on tiericide in a while. Things may have changed since I last looked. Im not sure how i feel about that, as a bpo owner myself.....
You will get a skin bpo and a standard core bpo for the suit...some people are just misinformed or completely spit balling.
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RedBleach LeSanglant
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.06.16 22:10:00 -
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Thank you for the update Rattati. News is always appreciated. I will be interested to see the slot count decision that will come from the Viking throne in Shanghi.
The Logi Code. Creator, Believer, Follower
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.16 22:40:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:Im not sure how i feel about that, as a bpo owner myself..... You will get a skin bpo and a standard core bpo for the suit...some people are just misinformed or completely spit balling.
My thoughts as well. I seriously doubt that they'll "bone" all the mercs who've purchased packs.
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alias lycan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.06.16 23:23:00 -
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Not happy about the strafe nerf. It just shows that the community skill level has reached an all time low. |
thor424
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.16 23:37:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:
We have also been busy on the SKIN front, and the plan is to finally be able to remove the unique BPO's and replace them with SKINs. We were hit with a little curveball from EVE, improved tools for us all, but slowed down our pipeline while we got used to the new tools.
But.... but..... my C-II !!! it better have a really cool ass paint scheme if you're gonna rob it from me lol
You should get a skin and an apex equivalent power core BPO |
DR DEESE NUTS
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Posted - 2015.06.17 00:57:00 -
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alias lycan wrote:Not happy about the strafe nerf. It just shows that the community skill level has reached an all time low.
If strafe is nerfed get rid of aim assists.
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E-Rock
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.17 03:30:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Dear players,
I just want to speak up and let everyone know that we are working on really good features, that have taken a lot of effort from me and the whole team. Hence the silence.
On the hotfix front, I have been considering a complete limited tiericide, ie. removal of slot progression from all dropsuits.
We have also been busy on the SKIN front, and the plan is to finally be able to remove the unique BPO's and replace them with SKINs. We were hit with a little curveball from EVE, improved tools for us all, but slowed down our pipeline while we got used to the new tools.
However, due to all these complexities, we may need to fold logistics and commando slot changes into the next release, instead of deploying through a planned hotfix Foxtrot.
One change we will be implementing is a flat strafe speed reduction, from 90% of forward speed to 70%. DUST 514 is a tactical shooter. This change can be debated, but probably not averted, but it could be reverted in a later hotfix.
We still aim for a cool Event with an awesome reward, and a Newsletter with another very cool reward, so lots of things happening.
You can't swim, bro?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.17 03:40:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:Wait, i'm confused,
Question: Are you saying that everything I have spent money on ie mercenary pack, veteran pack, elite pack etc will be turned into something completly and utterly useless? Take away the meaning of why they were purchased in the first place?
I don't think that is what he meant and that was not the impression I got when CCP got involved in the idea. My impression was that our BPO suits might be converted to not just a BPO SKIN but possibly a BPO power core as well. However, I would like to see CCP to clarify on that if I am wrong.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2015.06.17 03:43:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:Im not sure how i feel about that, as a bpo owner myself..... You will get a skin bpo and a standard core bpo for the suit...some people are just misinformed or completely spit balling. My thoughts as well. I seriously doubt that they'll bone all the players who've purchased packs. Just seems really unlikely.
I agree. I mainly purchased the BPOs for their cosmetic value, but not all players share the same reasoning as I did. Many bought it for the significant ISK advantage that the BPOs gave to the players.
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.06.17 06:19:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:One change we will be implementing is a flat strafe speed reduction, from 90% of forward speed to 70%. DUST 514 is a tactical shooter. This change can be debated, but probably not averted, but it could be reverted in a later hotfix. Maybe you want to clarify your definition of a tactical shooter, because for the past 2+ years Dust has never been anything near what you're inciting. Furthermore, I have always questioned the wiggle wiggle witch hunt movement. I agree, Hit detection is not perfect, but by all means a player does not become invincible by moving back and forth. So my question is this: Is Dust 514 now a branded tactical shooter and therefore strafing is no longer a needed mechanic? or Are we reducing Strafe speed because it is a proclaimed hit detection problem? Does it matter? All I know is that the reduced strafe speed will serve to benefit those who can strafe well and unpredicatbly vs those who have relied on whizzing around in a circular pattern as fast as possible. The average player will now have an easier time tracking predictable strafers who relied previously on pure speed and aim assist. That's what i am thinking. There is one issue that i found when low strafe suits counter a heavy. It is near instant death. So i see a heavy nerf coming soon.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.06.17 06:47:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:
You'll like it.
Kevall was using the voice Bene Gesserit! Dennie's a woman!?
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.17 06:52:00 -
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Like I have said a million times. Rat Man is our saving grace.
I was tempted to get a BPO, i will now wait and just get some SKINs
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.06.17 07:00:00 -
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Death to all hardcore strafers! No more stupid left-right thumbstick wiggling contests. Finally people who are supposed to die will die and not dodge bullets like Neo from the Matrix. With the base speed nerf of assaults and now the strafe speed nerf across all suits it will be a blessing. Its just stupid that when a guy is standing 10m infront of you he just sidesteps like a madmen to avoid beeing hit.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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John ShepardIII
Second-Nature
1
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Posted - 2015.06.17 07:02:00 -
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alias lycan wrote:Not happy about the strafe nerf. It just shows that the community skill level has reached an all time low.
Yeah strafing is one of the only things dust has going for it
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John ShepardIII
Second-Nature
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Posted - 2015.06.17 07:06:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Death to all hardcore strafers! No more stupid left-right thumbstick wiggling contests. Finally people who are supposed to die will die and not dodge bullets like Neo from the Matrix. With the base speed nerf of assaults and now the strafe speed nerf across all suits it will be a blessing. Its just stupid that when a guy is standing 10m infront of you he just sidesteps like a madmen to avoid beeing hit.
It's called get good and don't miss. Tons of people have no problem strafing and aiming, but you can't aim so you want it taken away so you can do good. People like you are just ruining dust. If they nerf strafe speed to much us just going to be about stacking a lot of life and DMG mods and where's the fun in that
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.06.17 07:11:00 -
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John ShepardIII wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Death to all hardcore strafers! No more stupid left-right thumbstick wiggling contests. Finally people who are supposed to die will die and not dodge bullets like Neo from the Matrix. With the base speed nerf of assaults and now the strafe speed nerf across all suits it will be a blessing. Its just stupid that when a guy is standing 10m infront of you he just sidesteps like a madmen to avoid beeing hit. It's called get good and don't miss. Tons of people have no problem strafing and aiming, but you can't aim so you want it taken away so you can do good. People like you are just ruining dust. If they nerf strafe speed to much us just going to be about stacking a lot of life and DMG mods and where's the fun in that
How entertaining come back with that when the game supports a constant 60FPS. Cause at the moment with the inconsistent FPS strafing is gamebreakingly bad.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.06.17 07:15:00 -
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John ShepardIII wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Death to all hardcore strafers! No more stupid left-right thumbstick wiggling contests. Finally people who are supposed to die will die and not dodge bullets like Neo from the Matrix. With the base speed nerf of assaults and now the strafe speed nerf across all suits it will be a blessing. Its just stupid that when a guy is standing 10m infront of you he just sidesteps like a madmen to avoid beeing hit. It's called get good and don't miss. Tons of people have no problem strafing and aiming, but you can't aim so you want it taken away so you can do good. People like you are just ruining dust. If they nerf strafe speed to much us just going to be about stacking a lot of life and DMG mods and where's the fun in that
More inclined to think he just thinks it flipping stupid that you can dodge bullets like that. Why bother with cover? Might as well remove all walls and boxes and just slug it out in an arena. I would suggest to you that there is no fun in *that*.
You also make it sound like DUST is *not* about stacking a lot of life and DMG mods. Isn't that the most common fitting? Dust thang shows that nine of the top ten items used in low slots is related to HP, and seven in ten high slot mods are related to HP / damage increase.
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John ShepardIII
Second-Nature
1
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Posted - 2015.06.17 07:29:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:John ShepardIII wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Death to all hardcore strafers! No more stupid left-right thumbstick wiggling contests. Finally people who are supposed to die will die and not dodge bullets like Neo from the Matrix. With the base speed nerf of assaults and now the strafe speed nerf across all suits it will be a blessing. Its just stupid that when a guy is standing 10m infront of you he just sidesteps like a madmen to avoid beeing hit. It's called get good and don't miss. Tons of people have no problem strafing and aiming, but you can't aim so you want it taken away so you can do good. People like you are just ruining dust. If they nerf strafe speed to much us just going to be about stacking a lot of life and DMG mods and where's the fun in that More inclined to think he just thinks it flipping stupid that you can dodge bullets like that. Why bother with cover? Might as well remove all walls and boxes and just slug it out in an arena. I would suggest to you that there is no fun in *that*. You also make it sound like DUST is *not* about stacking a lot of life and DMG mods. Isn't that the most common fitting? Dust thang shows that nine of the top ten items used in low slots is related to HP, and seven in ten high slot mods are related to HP / damage increase. Game is already not fun according to your definition.
No actually a really popular fit right now is min assault with 3 jumping mods or a min assault Shotty with kin kats, and most people use fero plates. So no not many people stack as much life as possible with DMG mods. And no even with strafing you can't just stand in the open. Strafing is only really good in CQC not in try strafing in the open you'll get instant killed lol. I am now going to stop arguing with you because you clearly have never played this game before so it is pointless to argue with you
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alias lycan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
70
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Posted - 2015.06.17 09:15:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Death to all hardcore strafers! No more stupid left-right thumbstick wiggling contests. Finally people who are supposed to die will die and not dodge bullets like Neo from the Matrix. With the base speed nerf of assaults and now the strafe speed nerf across all suits it will be a blessing. Its just stupid that when a guy is standing 10m infront of you he just sidesteps like a madmen to avoid beeing hit.
Why on earth would you stand still and take bullets to the face if you can prevent it. Moving around to avoid damage isnt game breaking its common sense. Something the dust community clearly lacks. |
4lbert Wesker
Mithril Forge
E-R-A
238
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Posted - 2015.06.17 09:22:00 -
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alias lycan wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Death to all hardcore strafers! No more stupid left-right thumbstick wiggling contests. Finally people who are supposed to die will die and not dodge bullets like Neo from the Matrix. With the base speed nerf of assaults and now the strafe speed nerf across all suits it will be a blessing. Its just stupid that when a guy is standing 10m infront of you he just sidesteps like a madmen to avoid beeing hit. Why on earth would you stand still and take bullets to the face if you can prevent it. Moving around to avoid damage isnt game breaking its common sense. Something the dust community clearly lacks.
No, it's not game breaking but bad hit detection AND strafing is saving your minmatard ass.
So,any words about removing the jumping "feature" with myos?
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2015.06.17 09:51:00 -
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Question
Will the bpo's we currently own become skins?
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