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Alena Ventrallis
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:34:00 -
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The strafe nerf will leave a large mark, regardless of how you feel about it. So many builds are made around wiggling, so this will certainly shake things up. I think its a buff to heavies for sure, but then again Rattati said he thought the wiggling was a skill.
As far as being a tactical shooter... have you PLAYED a tactical shooter?
Whirly gun make much thunder! - Victor
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Michael Epic
Horizons' Edge
No Context
958
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:51:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:The strafe nerf will leave a large mark, regardless of how you feel about it. So many builds are made around wiggling, so this will certainly shake things up. I think its a buff to heavies for sure, but then again Rattati said he thought the wiggling was a skill.
As far as being a tactical shooter... have you PLAYED a tactical shooter?
Your days are numbered, sir.  
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
478
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:00:00 -
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Instead of strafe nerf just remove for month armor plates and shield extenders
Gallente Speed Scout.
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:59:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Instead of strafe nerf just remove for month armor plates and shield extenders
That is a horrible idea
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MrCriminal High Power
Art.of.Death
44
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:05:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
removal of slot progression from all dropsuits.
What's this suppose to mean.?
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El Diablo 666
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:09:00 -
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MrCriminal High Power wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:
removal of slot progression from all dropsuits.
What's this suppose to mean.?
This explains it.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203624&find=unread
In other words, all suits from standard to proto will have proto-level slots. The PG/CPU will still be progressive but will become stats applied by a power core module that the suit needs to function.
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MrCriminal High Power
Art.of.Death
44
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:11:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:We need more clarifications on some of tge items mentioned. Here is obe question in regards to BPOs.
I bought a quafe bpo suit (and matching methana car). This suit its a basic caldari scout but in pinkish/purple color. Because it us a bpo suit and NEVER!!! runs out this suit saves me 3,000 isk per death. With the new changes will the suit become consumable? With the flattening of slot progression instead of different tiers of suits we're going to be getting one suit per role, per race (Plus officer suits and other small exceptions). So instead of having over 100 suits, we'll have closer to the range of 20. All these suits will become BPOs, and instead of having, say, Standard, Advanced, and Prototype Amarr Sentinel, we'll instead just have Amarr Sentinel with a Standard, Advanced, or Prototype Power Core. So you won't have the Quafe dropsuit BPO anymore, but you'll have a Quafe SKIN BPO that can be applied to your dropsuit, which will be changed to a BPO with the upcoming slot progression update. I could be wrong, though, because I haven't been up to date on tiericide in a while. Things may have changed since I last looked.
This is BS.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ¤.°n+ín+ƒGÿåGùÅ°.LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
El Diablo 666
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MrCriminal High Power
Art.of.Death
44
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:12:00 -
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So basically everyone will have the exact same suit.?
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ¤.°n+ín+ƒGÿåGùÅ°.LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
El Diablo 666
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:13:00 -
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MrCriminal High Power wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:We need more clarifications on some of tge items mentioned. Here is obe question in regards to BPOs.
I bought a quafe bpo suit (and matching methana car). This suit its a basic caldari scout but in pinkish/purple color. Because it us a bpo suit and NEVER!!! runs out this suit saves me 3,000 isk per death. With the new changes will the suit become consumable? With the flattening of slot progression instead of different tiers of suits we're going to be getting one suit per role, per race (Plus officer suits and other small exceptions). So instead of having over 100 suits, we'll have closer to the range of 20. All these suits will become BPOs, and instead of having, say, Standard, Advanced, and Prototype Amarr Sentinel, we'll instead just have Amarr Sentinel with a Standard, Advanced, or Prototype Power Core. So you won't have the Quafe dropsuit BPO anymore, but you'll have a Quafe SKIN BPO that can be applied to your dropsuit, which will be changed to a BPO with the upcoming slot progression update. I could be wrong, though, because I haven't been up to date on tiericide in a while. Things may have changed since I last looked. This is BS.
He forgot to mention that the part about the BPOs is still not all that clear. We don't know exactly how BPO suits will be converted, but it is my opinion that the BPO suits be converted to a bundle which includes a BPO SKIN and a BPO Power Core.
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MrCriminal High Power
Art.of.Death
44
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:14:00 -
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So my Apex will be worth nothing.?
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ¤.°n+ín+ƒGÿåGùÅ°.LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
El Diablo 666
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:16:00 -
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MrCriminal High Power wrote:So basically everyone will have the exact same suit.?
Not an entirely accurate statement. There will be different racial suits for different roles like the Gallente Scout or the Amarr Sentinel.
For example:
An Amarr Sentinel will have the same slots as a Sentinel Ak.0 while the Amarr Commando will have the same slots as a Commando Ak.0 regardless of tier.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:18:00 -
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MrCriminal High Power wrote:So my Apex will be worth nothing.?
There is no definitive statement on that. People like me have been asking CCP that exact same question but we got nothing so far in terms of what WILL happen. I'm guessing it might be turned into a bundle like I said. But since APEX suits are a unique case, people are wondering if it possible for a power core BPO to include standard modules built into it like you see on today's APEX suit.
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MrCriminal High Power
Art.of.Death
44
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:18:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:MrCriminal High Power wrote:So my Apex will be worth nothing.? There is no definitive statement on that. People like me have been asking CCP that exact same question but we got nothing so far in terms of what WILL happen. I'm guessing it might be turned into a bundle like I said. But since APEX suits are a unique case, people are wondering if it possible for a power core BPO to include standard modules built into it like you see on today's APEX suit.
Oh well....
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ¤.°n+ín+ƒGÿåGùÅ°.LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
El Diablo 666
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:22:00 -
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MrCriminal High Power wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:MrCriminal High Power wrote:So my Apex will be worth nothing.? There is no definitive statement on that. People like me have been asking CCP that exact same question but we got nothing so far in terms of what WILL happen. I'm guessing it might be turned into a bundle like I said. But since APEX suits are a unique case, people are wondering if it possible for a power core BPO to include standard modules built into it like you see on today's APEX suit. Oh well....
The problem here is that players like you and me bought these suits for one of three reasons: looks, cost savings, or both. Though people have criticized the looks often.
If the limited tiericide goes ahead, changes will have to be made to the BPO suits in a way that satisfies everyone.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:51:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:The strafe nerf will leave a large mark, regardless of how you feel about it. So many builds are made around wiggling, so this will certainly shake things up. I think its a buff to heavies for sure, but then again Rattati said he thought the wiggling was a skill.
As far as being a tactical shooter... have you PLAYED a tactical shooter?
Wiggling is heavily reliant upon aim-assist, and is not the same thing as strafing. Rattati said that strafing while keeping shots on target was a skill. Rattati's previously said that he's a KB/M user.
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SILENTSAM 69
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
784
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Posted - 2015.06.20 17:20:00 -
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Why nerf strafe speed? It was done before,. and it was a bad move. So they changed it back.
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Yoda Boss
Dem Durrty Boyz
83
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Posted - 2015.06.20 18:35:00 -
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Here we go again. Totally changing the game.
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MrCriminal High Power
Art.of.Death
44
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Posted - 2015.06.21 01:10:00 -
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MrCriminal High Power wrote:So basically everyone will have the exact same suit.?
What I meant was for example will every one who runs ak.0 assault have the same fitting.?
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
834
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Posted - 2015.06.21 02:15:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We still aim for a cool Event with an awesome reward, and a Newsletter with another very cool reward, so lots of things happening. I love rewards, hint please, I want to guess what they are!  You'll like it.
Gasp! A wall poster of Mintchip in the nude? Oh, is it everything I dreamed?
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
6
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Posted - 2015.06.21 03:33:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We still aim for a cool Event with an awesome reward, and a Newsletter with another very cool reward, so lots of things happening. I love rewards, hint please, I want to guess what they are! You'll like it. Gasp! A wall poster of Mintchip in the nude? Oh, is it everything I dreamed?
Your dreams are below subpar if that's even remotely true.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Ydubbs81 RND
Negative-Feedback
3
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Posted - 2015.06.21 05:25:00 -
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Have to be honest......this is the first time since Rattati has taken over, that I do not like the direction that Dust is taking. Strafe has always been one of Dust's enjoyable features. Now, all of a sudden it's a "tactical shooter" and it needs to get the nerf hammer? Dust is a "spam shooter"...always have been and seem to always will be.
I remember when they changed the movement speed to 90% of sprint. Devs were going to make it 80% but realized that the community enjoyed it so they changed it to 90% (wish I could find the thread)
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.06.21 09:57:00 -
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Slowly changing and killing off the game that I for one got into since day one.
Nerfed KB/M (I'm curious how you ever expect KB/M to even be on par with A-A DS3)
Nerfed Scouts (Passives)
Nerfed Strafe.....
Nerfed "Chromosome" pretty much....
I'm not one to ***** and whine unnecessarily but I cannot condone what you are doing to this game any more CCP. I think it might finally be time to throw in the towel.
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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brett morris518
L.O.T.I.S.
57
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Posted - 2015.06.21 12:33:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Slowly changing and killing off the game that I for one got into since day one.
Nerfed KB/M (I'm curious how you ever expect KB/M to even be on par with A-A DS3)
Nerfed Scouts (Passives)
Nerfed Strafe.....
Nerfed "Chromosome" pretty much....
I'm not one to ***** and whine unnecessarily but I cannot condone what you are doing to this game any more CCP. I think it might finally be time to throw in the towel.
no you won't... don't do it bolt!!!!! also, long time no see... click my signature ;)
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brett morris518
L.O.T.I.S.
57
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Posted - 2015.06.21 12:35:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Slowly changing and killing off the game that I for one got into since day one.
Nerfed KB/M (I'm curious how you ever expect KB/M to even be on par with A-A DS3)
Nerfed Scouts (Passives)
Nerfed Strafe.....
Nerfed "Chromosome" pretty much....
I'm not one to ***** and whine unnecessarily but I cannot condone what you are doing to this game any more CCP. I think it might finally be time to throw in the towel. no you won't... don't do it bolt!!!!! also, long time no see... click my signature ;)
i think you will like the "things that go boom" one the most.. remember back in the day when i explained how the bandwidth and remote LAV with apex would work? awesome example of a free tank killer or two!
funny dust stuff here
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
154
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:13:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Slowly changing and killing off the game that I for one got into since day one.
Nerfed KB/M (I'm curious how you ever expect KB/M to even be on par with A-A DS3)
Nerfed Scouts (Passives)
Nerfed Strafe.....
Nerfed "Chromosome" pretty much....
I'm not one to ***** and whine unnecessarily but I cannot condone what you are doing to this game any more CCP. I think it might finally be time to throw in the towel.
You do realise strafe was a lot slower in chromosome dont you?
I dont remember people complaining strafe speeds where to slow in chrome, in fact at 0.7 of base movement strafe is still going to be faster that in chromosome.
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:55:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Have to be honest......this is the first time since Rattati has taken over, that I do not like the direction that Dust is taking. Strafe has always been one of Dust's enjoyable features. Now, all of a sudden it's a "tactical shooter" and it needs to get the nerf hammer? Dust is a "spam shooter"...always have been and seem to always will be.
I remember when they changed the movement speed to 90% of sprint. Devs were going to make it 80% but realized that the community enjoyed it so they changed it to 90% (wish I could find the thread)
A spam shooter??? Last time i checked, the goal was for it to be a tactical shooter, not some COD/Quake hybrid wannabe, this is the best thing that's happenned to Dust in a very long time, the only people complaining against it are those who rely on the ****** hit detection and unrealistic strafe mechanics.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.22 01:55:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Have to be honest......this is the first time since Rattati has taken over, that I do not like the direction that Dust is taking. Strafe has always been one of Dust's enjoyable features. Now, all of a sudden it's a "tactical shooter" and it needs to get the nerf hammer? Dust is a "spam shooter"...always have been and seem to always will be.
I remember when they changed the movement speed to 90% of sprint. Devs were going to make it 80% but realized that the community enjoyed it so they changed it to 90% (wish I could find the thread)
I never enjoyed strafing. I remember using it every so often to test out how effective it is, but every time I did it I was reminded as to why I did not enjoy it. I learned that by turning and then running in different directions (rather then sidestep) I was actually able to dodge bullets. Strafing only turned me into a bullet magnet.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:46:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Slowly changing and killing off the game that I for one got into since day one.
Nerfed KB/M (I'm curious how you ever expect KB/M to even be on par with A-A DS3)
Nerfed Scouts (Passives)
Nerfed Strafe.....
Nerfed "Chromosome" pretty much....
I'm not one to ***** and whine unnecessarily but I cannot condone what you are doing to this game any more CCP. I think it might finally be time to throw in the towel. You do realise strafe was a lot slower in chromosome dont you? I dont remember people complaining strafe speeds where to slow in chrome, in fact at 0.7 of base movement strafe is still going to be faster that in chromosome.
The game was very different in many ways in chrome. Strafe was different, I think sprint speeds were also (if not base stats then through module useage).
We had skills to improve optimal range (sharpshooter or something I recall) so yes I understand it was different. I'm just pointing out the many fun elements of the game that have been lost. (Not saying the game is all bad btw)
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.23 02:00:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Indianna Pwns wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Slowly changing and killing off the game that I for one got into since day one.
Nerfed KB/M (I'm curious how you ever expect KB/M to even be on par with A-A DS3)
Nerfed Scouts (Passives)
Nerfed Strafe.....
Nerfed "Chromosome" pretty much....
I'm not one to ***** and whine unnecessarily but I cannot condone what you are doing to this game any more CCP. I think it might finally be time to throw in the towel. You do realise strafe was a lot slower in chromosome dont you? I dont remember people complaining strafe speeds where to slow in chrome, in fact at 0.7 of base movement strafe is still going to be faster that in chromosome. The game was very different in many ways in chrome. Strafe was different, I think sprint speeds were also (if not base stats then through module useage). We had skills to improve optimal range (sharpshooter or something I recall) so yes I understand it was different. I'm just pointing out the many fun elements of the game that have been lost. (Not saying the game is all bad btw)
Don't remind me of that that damn sharpshooter skill book. That skill book use to turn ARs into sniper rifles and HMG into long-distance murdering machines.
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Spaceman-Rob
Dead Man's Game
842
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Posted - 2015.06.23 09:48:00 -
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