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Arirana Negative-Feedback. 984	Posted - 2015.06.12 19:53:00 - [1] - Quote Lag has been an incurable plague of the dust bunnies of New Eden since the birth of our kind. However, there are ways to fight it, and I'm going to tell you how. The first step in fighting lag is understanding the causes, and understanding different types of lag. If you are already well versed in your understanding of the different types of lag, you can skip this part. FPS Lag The most common and recurring lag type is frame-rate per second lag, or FPS lag. Its pretty straight forward and easy to identify, as the main symptom is low FPS, making your gameplay look a little more like a slideshow. FPS lag is mainly caused by memory leaks in the Dust 514 client, which occurs overtime the longer the dust client is running. It also occurs when the hardware in a player's ps3 just can't seem to keep up. Extreme cases of FPS lag can lead to system failure, disconnects, and freezing. Network/Server Lag The other type of lag is Network/Server lag. The main symptom of network lag is something called rubber banding. Rubber banding is the phenomenon where actions performed by the player seem to be "undone" with consistent frequency. Here's an EXAMPLE video of rubber banding. This is most often caused by a poor connection with the Dust 514 servers, either via ping, a poor internet connection on part of the player, or server side problems. Dust 514 shares servers with Eve Online, on many occasions massive battles have broken out in Eve online which can put large burdens on the servers altogether, leading to network lag for both games. How To Prevent FPS Lag As of right now there is no way known to me for a player to prevent memory leaks altogether. There are ways to slow and lessen its effects, which I will explain right now, listed in order of the least time consuming and easiest to perform. For maximum benefit, use as many of these as possible. Open your neocom, go to System Operation, then to options, then to video. Set your texture detail to low, and your effect detail to low. This is very easy, and improves performance slightly. Deleting all mails and contacts is known to yield immediate performance improvements. Similarly, keeping the number of channels you are in to a minimum reduces FPS lag as well. Other things such as how many boosters you have running or queued at once or how many fittings you have have lesser significant impacts on performance. Of course, these options are sacrificial, but they are quick and easy. Resetting your game via quitting the game to the psn menu and relaunching is the most obvious yet slightly time consuming and tedious option, but is known to temporarily replenish memory which has leaked. Hard resetting involves shutting down your ps3 entirely, and restarting it after a small amount of time has passed. This is even more effective and also gives your ps3 a chance to cooldown. De-Fragmenting your HDD (hard disk drive) which is the hard drive a newly bought ps3 comes with, as well as cleaning your ps3 of dust (actual dust). Cleaning your ps3 and defragmenting your HDD is highly recommended and should be performed at least once a week to prevent overheating (which can lead to YLOD), and to weed out corrupted files and unnecessary data. This is one of the more tedious options, but is easy to perform once you know what you're doing. HERE is a tutorial video on how to do both. Playing in standard definition aka 480p is one of the most effective ways to prevent FPS lag, but as can be expected, it looks crappier than 720p. HERE is a tutorial video on how to easily change your ps3 to 480p/SD from HD, and vice versa. Swapping your HDD (hard disk drive) for a SSD (solid state drive). This is by far the most effective way to prevent FPS lag, due to the SSD's superior upload/download speeds, and data reading speeds. However, this is also the most costly and and time consuming option. If you choose to get an SSD, PLEASE know and remember that you should not defragment an SSD, as it does not benefit from it, rather it wears it down faster. HERE is a more thorough explanation. For those that need convincing of its positive effects to make the purchase of a SSD and the lengthy process of installing it worth it. HERE is a video on conducting performance tests between an HDD and a SSD, and HERE is a detailed but LONG explanation about why a SSD is superior. I'll leave what SSD you purchase up to you, but obviously the more space on it the better. Now for how to physically remove your HDD and install your SSD, and then how to install the ps3 OS once its in there. HERE is a tutorial on how to physically remove your HDD and install a SSD on a slim. After you do that, go to THIS link, you will need it to install the latest ps3 software onto a flash drive. HERE is a tutorial video on how to install the latest ps3 OS onto your SSD once it is in there, the site it tells you to go to in the beginning of the video is the one I linked. The Official Ari QQ Thread
Arirana Negative-Feedback. 984	Posted - 2015.06.12 19:53:00 - [2] - Quote How To Prevent Network/Server Lag Compared to FPS lag players have less control of network lag, as there aren't as many things you can do to prevent it. However I do have some useful tips, again listed least time consuming/easiest first. Reset your router at least once a day. HERE is a quick 2 min tutorial video on how to do it. Establish a wired connection between your ps3 and your router. Many people experience a significant improvement to their internet connection. Wireless is fine so long as your router is within close proximity to your ps3. The further away it is, the weaker the connection. Wired being the best. HERE is a tutorial video on how to set up a wired connection. Have a faster internet connection. Alot of you prefer/only have access to potato internet, which is unfortunate. You should have at least 8 mbps, anything less than that is potato status and will make you lag like hell. Well that's all I got. Please keep the thread on topic, feel free to contribute and call me out on anything I left out or am wrong about. The Official Ari QQ Thread
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 99	Posted - 2015.06.12 19:59:00 - [3] - Quote Dont forget these major tips too! 1. Planetary conquest in any form against tryhard corps. 2. Latino lagcorps 3. Playing on other servers other than the one closest to you. Ewar? What's that? Some kind of fancy new way of being lazy? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots.
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II 0uter.Heaven 306	Posted - 2015.06.12 20:04:00 - [4] - Quote Solid post. SSD is a considerable investment, especially for a outdated console but the rest of the tips are easy enough to execute. For me personally, deleting all mail and contacts proved enough to eradicate most of the FPS lag. Add in a reset before every PC and I can enjoy a decent experience. Running out of fuks to give
Arirana Negative-Feedback. 987	Posted - 2015.06.12 20:27:00 - [5] - Quote The investment for a SSD is indeed steep, but you have the time and money it is very worth it from my experience. I bought my 120gb Samsung SSD back when they went for $150 (the price has lowered) and it was still worth it then. To give you a better idea of how good it is, I do not get unplayable fps lag ever since I got it. Not even on the lag facility map, even when it was in PC. People accuse me of lag switching very often because of it. "I'm lagging and you clearly aren't, you're lag switching qq" is the gist of most hate mail I get. The Official Ari QQ Thread
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 488	Posted - 2015.06.12 20:55:00 - [6] - Quote Lag switching People don't even know what they're talking about. When you're not the host it's even counter-productive.
CUSE TOWN333 0uter.Heaven 2	Posted - 2015.06.12 21:31:00 - [7] - Quote 1# thing is don't play multi player video games against other people who have potato internet. CBM
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2015.06.12 21:32:00 - [8] - Quote Arirana wrote: The investment for a SSD is indeed steep, but you have the time and money it is very worth it from my experience. I bought my 120gb Samsung SSD back when they went for $150 (the price has lowered) and it was still worth it then. To give you a better idea of how good it is, I do not get unplayable fps lag ever since I got it. Not even on the lag facility map, even when it was in PC. People accuse me of lag switching very often because of it. "I'm lagging and you clearly aren't, you're lag switching qq" is the gist of most hate mail I get. Will any SSD work or do you need a specific kind? Design a Skin Challenge POLL (Vote Now!)
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 1	Posted - 2015.06.12 21:59:00 - [9] - Quote Potato internet = bahaha that made my day. I pay $50 a montb for my so if the family uses it = I dont lag at all. I mostly prefer to play at night Why did the white girl cross the road? To get to Starbucks. <-- My GF will kill me if I ask her that lol :)
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 626	Posted - 2015.06.12 22:04:00 - [10] - Quote You forgot about input lag, which occurs on most ish HDTVs. This type of lag is caused because TV wants to show screen at highest quality which takes some time do improve image. This type of lag makes playing dust UNPLAYABLE as you LITERALY can not aim because you don't know what the person will do. That valuable second or two of lag means life or death. If you have ever seen me playing and I go negative, I'm using HDTV and I justvtry to run slave medic or links/hives 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF

nelo kazuma Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415 258	Posted - 2015.06.13 00:51:00 - [11] - Quote Very informative great post. Only issue I had was the ssd portion its not toooo expensive but for those trying to enjoy the game completly free its not really a fair option to expect that FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life
Arirana Negative-Feedback. 993	Posted - 2015.06.13 01:00:00 - [12] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: Very informative great post. Only issue I had was the ssd portion its not toooo expensive but for those trying to enjoy the game completly free its not really a fair option to expect that Yes all of these steps are optional, it is unfortunate that its possible to have a hardware advantage over other players but such is not uncommon, not to mention we are playing on an outdated console, poor hardware is the default. Its even more unfortunate that without a hard drive upgrade you are bound to get unplayable lag often. The Official Ari QQ Thread
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 68	Posted - 2015.06.13 02:00:00 - [13] - Quote Arirana wrote: You should have at least 8 mbps, anything less than that is potato status and will make you lag like hell.. Up until I was 16 I had only dial-up. 12 kb/s on a good day. Then we moved and were able to get 60 kb/s. Had that until I was 21. Was finally able to move out on my own and I've got 200 kb/s. 24 now. And less than 8 mb/s is a potato. I really like how we're now able to say that less than 8 mb/s is basically a piece of **** when hardly any time ago even 1 mb/s seemed like a far off fantasy. Also thank you, I'll try these things and see how much they improve the game for me.
Arirana Negative-Feedback. 996	Posted - 2015.06.13 03:57:00 - [14] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Arirana wrote: You should have at least 8 mbps, anything less than that is potato status and will make you lag like hell.. Up until I was 16 I had only dial-up. 12 kb/s on a good day. Then we moved and were able to get 60 kb/s. Had that until I was 21. Was finally able to move out on my own and I've got 200 kb/s. 24 now. And less than 8 mb/s is a potato. I really like how we're now able to say that less than 8 mb/s is basically a piece of **** when hardly any time ago even 1 mb/s seemed like a far off fantasy. Also thank you, I'll try these things and see how much they improve the game for me. Sorry I'm talking about megabits per second not megabytes per second I should have clarified. The Official Ari QQ Thread
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.06.13 04:57:00 - [15] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Arirana wrote: The investment for a SSD is indeed steep, but you have the time and money it is very worth it from my experience. I bought my 120gb Samsung SSD back when they went for $150 (the price has lowered) and it was still worth it then. To give you a better idea of how good it is, I do not get unplayable fps lag ever since I got it. Not even on the lag facility map, even when it was in PC. People accuse me of lag switching very often because of it. "I'm lagging and you clearly aren't, you're lag switching qq" is the gist of most hate mail I get. Will any SSD work or do you need a specific kind? Considering SSD`s are usually in the 2.5inch form factor, they should slot right in like a harddrive. I do remember reading though that the PS3 architecture can only benefit to a certain extent from an SSD so I would suggest that you dont need the fastest most expensive badass one, unless you plan to reuse it in another system later down the line. "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.06.13 04:58:00 - [16] - Quote Arirana wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Arirana wrote: You should have at least 8 mbps, anything less than that is potato status and will make you lag like hell.. Up until I was 16 I had only dial-up. 12 kb/s on a good day. Then we moved and were able to get 60 kb/s. Had that until I was 21. Was finally able to move out on my own and I've got 200 kb/s. 24 now. And less than 8 mb/s is a potato. I really like how we're now able to say that less than 8 mb/s is basically a piece of **** when hardly any time ago even 1 mb/s seemed like a far off fantasy. Also thank you, I'll try these things and see how much they improve the game for me. Sorry I'm talking about megabits per second not megabytes per second I should have clarified. Blame companies for misleading information regarding MegaBytes and MegaBits.... especially internet service providers. "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
Eldest Dragon Lone--Wolves 519	Posted - 2015.06.13 05:29:00 - [17] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: You forgot about input lag, which occurs on most ish HDTVs. This type of lag is caused because TV wants to show screen at highest quality which takes some time do improve image. This type of lag makes playing dust UNPLAYABLE as you LITERALY can not aim because you don't know what the person will do. That valuable second or two of lag means life or death. If you have ever seen me playing and I go negative, I'm using HDTV and I justvtry to run slave medic or links/hives This! This must be whats happening to me, I got new hd tv, and have hd cord, sometimes dust is literally unplayable. When it starts I dnt even stand a chance against the scrubbiest of noobs.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 633	Posted - 2015.06.13 10:39:00 - [18] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: You forgot about input lag, which occurs on most ish HDTVs. This type of lag is caused because TV wants to show screen at highest quality which takes some time do improve image. This type of lag makes playing dust UNPLAYABLE as you LITERALY can not aim because you don't know what the person will do. That valuable second or two of lag means life or death. If you have ever seen me playing and I go negative, I'm using HDTV and I justvtry to run slave medic or links/hives This! This must be whats happening to me, I got new hd tv, and have hd cord, sometimes dust is literally unplayable. When it starts I dnt even stand a chance against the scrubbiest of noobs. YES. When you move with right stick, there is like a half second delay for it to appear on screen and that makes it unplayable as you would have to predict what enemy will do to move before but you can't. 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 71	Posted - 2015.06.13 10:45:00 - [19] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: You forgot about input lag, which occurs on most ish HDTVs. This type of lag is caused because TV wants to show screen at highest quality which takes some time do improve image. This type of lag makes playing dust UNPLAYABLE as you LITERALY can not aim because you don't know what the person will do. That valuable second or two of lag means life or death. If you have ever seen me playing and I go negative, I'm using HDTV and I justvtry to run slave medic or links/hives This! This must be whats happening to me, I got new hd tv, and have hd cord, sometimes dust is literally unplayable. When it starts I dnt even stand a chance against the scrubbiest of noobs. YES. When you move with right stick, there is like a half second delay for it to appear on screen and that makes it unplayable as you would have to predict what enemy will do to move before but you can't. I wasn't aware of this at all. Is this a problem with HD TVs themselves, or using the HD cord? Would using regular ol' AV cables fix this?
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.06.13 11:09:00 - [20] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: You forgot about input lag, which occurs on most ish HDTVs. This type of lag is caused because TV wants to show screen at highest quality which takes some time do improve image. This type of lag makes playing dust UNPLAYABLE as you LITERALY can not aim because you don't know what the person will do. That valuable second or two of lag means life or death. If you have ever seen me playing and I go negative, I'm using HDTV and I justvtry to run slave medic or links/hives This! This must be whats happening to me, I got new hd tv, and have hd cord, sometimes dust is literally unplayable. When it starts I dnt even stand a chance against the scrubbiest of noobs. YES. When you move with right stick, there is like a half second delay for it to appear on screen and that makes it unplayable as you would have to predict what enemy will do to move before but you can't. I wasn't aware of this at all. Is this a problem with HD TVs themselves, or using the HD cord? Would using regular ol' AV cables fix this? Bought this monitor two years ago solely for dust since i was 100% sure that i was going to invest heavy time. The change was my biggest upgrade yet along with my SSD. Paired all two with 480p and you got yourself the best set up available for dust as far it can allow. Ben q monitor

CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.06.13 11:31:00 - [21] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: You forgot about input lag, which occurs on most ish HDTVs. This type of lag is caused because TV wants to show screen at highest quality which takes some time do improve image. This type of lag makes playing dust UNPLAYABLE as you LITERALY can not aim because you don't know what the person will do. That valuable second or two of lag means life or death. If you have ever seen me playing and I go negative, I'm using HDTV and I justvtry to run slave medic or links/hives This! This must be whats happening to me, I got new hd tv, and have hd cord, sometimes dust is literally unplayable. When it starts I dnt even stand a chance against the scrubbiest of noobs. YES. When you move with right stick, there is like a half second delay for it to appear on screen and that makes it unplayable as you would have to predict what enemy will do to move before but you can't. I wasn't aware of this at all. Is this a problem with HD TVs themselves, or using the HD cord? Would using regular ol' AV cables fix this? Bought this monitor two years ago solely for dust since i was 100% sure that i was going to invest heavy time. The change was my biggest upgrade yet along with my SSD. Paired all two with 480p and you got yourself the best set up available for dust as far it can allow. Ben q monitor Input delay, that must be something to do with my previous tests running at 480p and noticing a much improved feel (at least for KB/M) I assume that same delay applies to DS3 controllers as well. "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 977	Posted - 2015.06.13 13:19:00 - [22] - Quote A Hybrid HDD is also acceptable (and even prefrable if you need a lot of space). I run a Seagate Momentus XT 750GB (8 GB SSD) which runs flawlessly. Really improved overall PS3 performance and Dust as well. I don't experience FPS lag, but sometimes rubber banding.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.06.13 15:33:00 - [23] - Quote My SSD didn't help with lag at all, it does put me into games quicker, but that's it. Playing on EU server and I'm mostly peachy, playing on US servers and I'm quickly reduced to a common pleb. Which is ok for most opponents, going up against good organized players though, its a horrid experience cause its quite obvious that you lose many engagements due to the game's performance not due to meeting superior players. Just my 2 isk... Spkr4theDead wrote: Says the guy that was quitting the game because CCP were nerfing fused locus grenades.
Arirana Negative-Feedback. 1	Posted - 2015.06.13 18:02:00 - [24] - Quote KingBabar wrote: My SSD didn't help with lag at all, it does put me into games quicker, but that's it. Playing on EU server and I'm mostly peachy, playing on US servers and I'm quickly reduced to a common pleb. Which is ok for most opponents, going up against good organized players though, its a horrid experience cause its quite obvious that you lose many engagements due to the game's performance not due to meeting superior players. Just my 2 isk... If I don't regularly perform steps 2 and 3, as well as play on 480p, the lag definitely gets to levels comparable to when I didn't have a SSD at times, but still not as often or as badly. Even if you have a SSD and the defragging section of step 4 doesn't apply to you, cleaning and maintaining the health of your ps3 can have major impacts on performance. The Official Ari QQ Thread
DDx77 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 303	Posted - 2015.06.13 20:41:00 - [25] - Quote Please someone make this a sticky, my mind has exploded due to the SSD information
Kwartoo 22	Posted - 2015.06.13 22:55:00 - [26] - Quote 1/ "FPS Lag". That's no lag, it's called low fps (no capitals here, FPS are First-Person Shooters) or low framerate. I sell cheap dictionaries, send me an evemail anytime. 2/ "replenish memory which has leaked". We're not talking about a broken pitcher here. A memory leak is a coding flaw that makes an ongoing process use more and more RAM. Restarting the game only makes it use its initial amount of RAM. On Windows, you'd have to properly set up your swap (virtual memory.) Don't know if it can be done on consoles. 3/ "Cleaning your ps3 and defragmenting your HDD". You're right, cleaning your hardware does prevent overheat, but HDD defragmentation does not "weed out corrupted files and unnecessary data." A defragmentation moves (when possible) all the files written on the disk as closer as possible to the center of the platters, and (also when possible) puts together the different parts of the same file, and all the files from the same software. It makes it easier for the OS and the softwares to access needed files, that's all. 4/ "due to the SSD's superior upload/download speeds". WHAT.THE.HOLY.**. A SSD does not donwload anything, nor does it have an influence on the limits of an internet connection. The only good points of a SSD (but they are very good points) are their reading and writing speeds. Important: only buy a SSD from a reliable brand. Don't buy OCZ. Samsung, Intel and Crucial are good. 5/ "Reset your router at least once a day". Bullshit. If you need to do that, there's something wrong with your router's configuration or hardware. Fix that instead. 6/ "Have a faster internet connection". NO ** SHERLOCK. Anything to add, Captain Obvious?
Arirana Negative-Feedback. 1	Posted - 2015.06.14 00:43:00 - [27] - Quote Kwartoo wrote: 1/ "FPS Lag". That's no lag, it's called low fps (no capitals here, FPS are First-Person Shooters) or low framerate. I sell cheap dictionaries, send me an evemail anytime. 2/ "replenish memory which has leaked". We're not talking about a broken pitcher here. A memory leak is a coding flaw that makes an ongoing process use more and more RAM. Restarting the game only makes it use its initial amount of RAM. On Windows, you'd have to properly set up your swap (virtual memory.) Don't know if it can be done on consoles. 3/ "Cleaning your ps3 and defragmenting your HDD". You're right, cleaning your hardware does prevent overheat, but HDD defragmentation does not "weed out corrupted files and unnecessary data." A defragmentation moves (when possible) all the files written on the disk as closer as possible to the center of the platters, and (also when possible) puts together the different parts of the same file, and all the files from the same software. It makes it easier for the OS and the softwares to access needed files, that's all. 4/ "due to the SSD's superior upload/download speeds". WHAT.THE.HOLY.**. A SSD does not donwload anything, nor does it have an influence on the limits of an internet connection. The only good points of a SSD (but they are very good points) are their reading and writing speeds. Important: only buy a SSD from a reliable brand. Don't buy OCZ. Samsung, Intel and Crucial are good. 5/ "Reset your router at least once a day". Bullshit. If you need to do that, there's something wrong with your router's configuration or hardware. Fix that instead. 6/ "Have a faster internet connection". NO SHERLOCK. Anything to add, Captain Obvious? TBH I stopped short of obsessing over being technically correct about everything, and focused on making sure each step actually has an impact on performance issues. I'll make sure to try my best today to correct all the second hand info but I can't make any promises. I tried to stay open minded about your criticism because it started off good, it really did, but towards the end your post devolved considerably due you trying too hard to nitpick at minor flaws. I feel like you missed the point of this thread and the target audience. Regarding 1/, 2/, 3/ and 4/ you provided stellar clarifications, I these are the parts I will mainly focus on to correct. As for 5/ resetting a router is a quick and easy temporary fix for a problem that is often difficult to find the cause of, and a problem that many people suffer from. HERE** is a bit of info about how to properly fix it. Its easy to understand why people prefer to just reboot the thing regularly, but I realize I overlooked that fact that many people do not have to reboot their router, I will go back and clarify that as well as post that link for people that want to fix the problem at the source. Finally, regarding your gem input in 6/ I already explained why I included it because of the amount of people who seem to think they can get by playing dust with internet barely better than dial up. Also sorry but no, I don't feel like sending you an evemail anytime. Ever. thanks anyway The Official Ari QQ Thread
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 282	Posted - 2015.06.14 00:57:00 - [28] - Quote Too much work to get a game to run smoothly imo. Still a good post. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Xirian Fin Endless Hatred 23	Posted - 2015.06.14 01:24:00 - [29] - Quote Could you get away with getting a really small GB SSD if you only use your ps3 for dust? Also i have great internet at 50m/b down i rarely see rubberbanding but what i see a lot and ive had it happen several times trying to kill you but i can unload half a mag on someone and i know im getting hits but i can barely seem to dmg them or even damage them at all. then they face me shoot what looks like 2 bullets and im dead from a STD type of weapon. my ttk verses other peoples ttk against me is really lopsided favoring them. this also happens while playing the south american ppl every single time. i would think if you had bad lag you would suffer not prosper. Also great post, with the tips im going to try everything i can to make it better Yup
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge No Context 1	Posted - 2015.06.14 02:31:00 - [30] - Quote Xirian Fin wrote: Could you get away with getting a really small GB SSD if you only use your ps3 for dust? Also i have great internet at 50m/b down i rarely see rubberbanding but what i see a lot and ive had it happen several times trying to kill you but i can unload half a mag on someone and i know im getting hits but i can barely seem to dmg them or even damage them at all. then they face me shoot what looks like 2 bullets and im dead from a STD type of weapon. my ttk verses other peoples ttk against me is really lopsided favoring them. this also happens while playing the south american ppl every single time. i would think if you had bad lag you would suffer not prosper. Also great post, with the tips im going to try everything i can to make it better This is something I have raged over so much... If I lag I die and die fast. If they lag I can't damage them but they destroy me... WTF And as a nova knifing minja I HATE when the Reds teleport 2-3 meter as I slash where they were half a second earlier. I understand this to be my connection causing this as my client predicts the other mercs location and movements between updates with the server or am I wrong? Either way this is one of the most infuriating things about knifing.... I have found that I can test it by running up against a blue. If I start bugging out, knifing is going to be hell... Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.

Kwartoo 25	Posted - 2015.06.14 10:06:00 - [31] - Quote Dear Arirana, the thinks I've explained came from a capsuleer called Azahar Unfortunatly Eve and Dust forums are not interactive, so you can read here his answer Quote: 1/ Spreading superstitions about hardware and software may be easier than being accurate, but it's bloody stupid. 2/ The point of your thread is not to insult people, it's to help them. Stop thinking they're too dumb to understand a short, precise and accurate explanation about how modern hardware and software work, because most of the time, they're actually trying to learn and understand. 3/ Most of the time, people have crappy internet because that's all they can afford/all that's available. Stating the obvious is not that useful, hence my previous note. 4/ My dictionaries are very cheap, and they bear the Original Seal of Quality. You should try one. 5/ Since you're so nice, next time you look at the sky, say hi! I'll drop a special package free of charge. By the way, your link for the HDD defrag is wrong. @Starlight Burner: The hardware maintenance will help with all your games, and the software/internet tricks will work for all your online games. Bit of a bother the first time, but a healthy habit to acquire for consoles and computers alike. Now i have to say that your 1st post is really usefull for many players, but it had to be adusted. Message for other players: If someone cry again about french lag, he can read all this or I will shotgun his clone very hard
Arirana Negative-Feedback. 1	Posted - 2015.06.14 17:52:00 - [32] - Quote Kwartoo wrote: Dear Arirana, the thinks I've explained came from a capsuleer called Azahar Unfortunatly Eve and Dust forums are not interactive, so you can read here his answer Quote: 1/ Spreading superstitions about hardware and software may be easier than being accurate, but it's bloody stupid. 2/ The point of your thread is not to insult people, it's to help them. Stop thinking they're too dumb to understand a short, precise and accurate explanation about how modern hardware and software work, because most of the time, they're actually trying to learn and understand. 3/ Most of the time, people have crappy internet because that's all they can afford/all that's available. Stating the obvious is not that useful, hence my previous note. 4/ My dictionaries are very cheap, and they bear the Original Seal of Quality. You should try one. 5/ Since you're so nice, next time you look at the sky, say hi! I'll drop a special package free of charge. By the way, your link for the HDD defrag is wrong. @Starlight Burner: The hardware maintenance will help with all your games, and the software/internet tricks will work for all your online games. Bit of a bother the first time, but a healthy habit to acquire for consoles and computers alike. Now i have to say that your 1st post is really usefull for many players, but it had to be adjusted. Message for other players: If someone cry again about french players lag, he can read all this or I will shotgun his clone very hard The point of my thread is in the title. Its not to help people even if the point of my thread is a way of doing that. If you're dissatisfied with that then make your own thread to "help people". Although I agree the information I provide should be as accurate as possible, and have revised my post for that purpose. Screw your dictionary, I'll go back and check that defrag video and if you want to drop an OB on me drop OBs for GFW and MFW long enough and you're bound to get me eventually. Thanks for the feedback The Official Ari QQ Thread
DR DEESE NUTS 142	Posted - 2015.06.14 18:00:00 - [33] - Quote Xirian Fin wrote: Could you get away with getting a really small GB SSD if you only use your ps3 for dust? Also i have great internet at 50m/b down i rarely see rubberbanding but what i see a lot and ive had it happen several times trying to kill you but i can unload half a mag on someone and i know im getting hits but i can barely seem to dmg them or even damage them at all. then they face me shoot what looks like 2 bullets and im dead from a STD type of weapon. my ttk verses other peoples ttk against me is really lopsided favoring them. this also happens while playing the south american ppl every single time. i would think if you had bad lag you would suffer not prosper. Also great post, with the tips im going to try everything i can to make it better Get better aim. The USS m`dick
Hubert De LaBatte Prima Gallicus 65	Posted - 2015.06.14 21:05:00 - [34] - Quote Very Interesting post Ari, thank you. Like all of us, I tried all to make this game run correctly, and you gave us some answers (480p really?). Sorry for the Azahar dictionnary blabla, he shows his science when he can... You help the community even if the words are not exactly the good ones, and we understand what you say. In Azahar post, nothing helps the community. We just know how to speak like a teacher without fixing anything. Prima Gallicus Dust Ceo, Planetary Conquest Leader since first fight
Weznof Nalek Providentia Aeternam Astroya Conglomerate. 98	Posted - 2015.06.14 22:39:00 - [35] - Quote Thx Arirana. Arirana tried just to help people, and you troll him. ******* Prima Gallicus. Weznof Nalec, Judge Magister CEO of Providentia Aeternam
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 640	Posted - 2015.06.14 22:47:00 - [36] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: You forgot about input lag, which occurs on most ish HDTVs. This type of lag is caused because TV wants to show screen at highest quality which takes some time do improve image. This type of lag makes playing dust UNPLAYABLE as you LITERALY can not aim because you don't know what the person will do. That valuable second or two of lag means life or death. If you have ever seen me playing and I go negative, I'm using HDTV and I justvtry to run slave medic or links/hives This! This must be whats happening to me, I got new hd tv, and have hd cord, sometimes dust is literally unplayable. When it starts I dnt even stand a chance against the scrubbiest of noobs. YES. When you move with right stick, there is like a half second delay for it to appear on screen and that makes it unplayable as you would have to predict what enemy will do to move before but you can't. I wasn't aware of this at all. Is this a problem with HD TVs themselves, or using the HD cord? Would using regular ol' AV cables fix this? HDTVs are made to process image in highest quality possible. To do so, it needs to run through enhancers. It takes like a second or so. It's the TV. 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Ardos 130297 Prima Gallicus 9	Posted - 2015.06.14 22:56:00 - [37] - Quote Thank's for this I didn't change the IG video setting, but i play in 576i every time (i haven't hot HD TV so ) and i haven't got a lot of fps problem. But I complete with your concil You do not win a war by making what is just... You win it by making what is necessary... Veteran Closed Beta
Sylwester Dziewiecki 476	Posted - 2015.06.14 23:02:00 - [38] - Quote Arirana wrote: ... All that words to describe one thing - It's because poor programming. Example: 2x3=6 is always more time consuming for machine then 2+2+2=6. Writing program that makes 2x3=6 takes less time then 2+2+2=6, so simplicity is more efficient then shortening. CCP never had time to properly write code of this game, they always was trying to deploy new content or finish content that is already deployed and broke for some reason. Today they are not even trying to fix bugs from 'old days' that were always there.. or even finally change Assault Rifle to Plasma Rifle. Abandon all hope. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Hubert De LaBatte Prima Gallicus 66	Posted - 2015.06.14 23:15:00 - [39] - Quote Shut up Weznof. No I said thank you because his post is a good and big work and it's cool to help the community. I will try to find a better screen with a better response time. Just surprised to see people playing with 480p But normal, psycho Weznof understand nothing and come to prove it. Stop squealing against Prima, lassie. Find a boyfriend and live your life. Become pregnant, you will be busy and maybe you will stop to think of me. Prima Gallicus Dust Ceo, Planetary Conquest Leader since first fight
Weznof Nalek Providentia Aeternam Astroya Conglomerate. 100	Posted - 2015.06.14 23:50:00 - [40] - Quote You are not the subject of my interest, and it is not the topic for talking about your pathetic existence. But if you ask, I can spoil another of your evenings. I remember that you enjoyed it. Weznof Nalec, Judge Magister CEO of Providentia Aeternam

Richard Gamerich-R 0uter.Heaven 55	Posted - 2015.06.15 10:55:00 - [41] - Quote Thank you for this tutorial Arirana. Personally I play with a ssd, and performance is really better, the game is more stable and more pleasant for the PC match. In short, I strongly advise the ssd for those who can. I think this is the most effective solution, after the option to play in low resolution. And, for those who play in PC, if you have a lot of lag during a game, quit the game and come back in. This will temporarily reduce problems. Also, avoid to do : go into and out of th+¬ city too often during a game, it often creates a lot of bug. Also, reinstall the game sometimes helps to remove some bug. Why? I do not know but I know it works lol Finally, to best reduce latency on your TV, if you can, try to disable the options related to improving the image: dynamic contrast, filter... I also believe that connect the PS3 controller with the cable to the console also reduces the latency of commands (personal impression). Good luck guys o7 To Weznof : and that's go again ... long live to the FR community -_-
Kwartoo 25	Posted - 2015.06.15 15:25:00 - [42] - Quote Weznof Nalek wrote: Thx Arirana. Arirana tried just to help people, and you troll him. ******* Prima Gallicus. Azahar n'est pas un prima Et t'es gentil de retourner jouer dans ton bac +á sable petit, ton pote est assez grand pour se d+¬fendre tout seul
Weznof Nalek Providentia Aeternam Astroya Conglomerate. 101	Posted - 2015.06.15 16:09:00 - [43] - Quote Kwartoo wrote: Weznof Nalek wrote: Thx Arirana. Arirana tried just to help people, and you troll him. ******* Prima Gallicus. Azahar n'est pas un prima Et t'es gentil de retourner jouer dans ton bac +á sable petit, ton pote est assez grand pour se d+¬fendre tout seul Mais je t'emmerde cordialement. Weznof Nalec, Judge Magister CEO of Providentia Aeternam
Arirana Negative-Feedback. 1	Posted - 2015.06.17 09:10:00 - [44] - Quote No need to be lashing out at each other, at least not in this thread. The Official Ari QQ Thread
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.17 10:24:00 - [45] - Quote I'm using 47" HDTV and i don't suffer from input (was it called like this?) lags. Hard reseting solves most of the problems during PC. Loyal to The State Member of : State Protectorate Belongs to : Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.17 11:40:00 - [46] - Quote TL:DR http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comicsandcosplay/comics/critical-miss/13549-Critical-Miss-Pc-Gaming-pedantry Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 858	Posted - 2015.06.17 11:57:00 - [47] - Quote Few words from me. 1. SSD or HDD at 7200 rpm can help. Why? PS3 have very small amount of RAM. This lead into 'unload' everything and load again when PS3 rendering fast changing scenes. If there is crapy 'code' you degrade PS3 RAM fast and this lead to crasches or not responding game. Change your stacked HDD. And one more: SSD here is treated as HDD, because of first sata interface. PS3 do not support full potential of SSD and treat it rather harsh. I used 7200HDD about 3 years now. I don't get overheat (if someone is concered) 2. Defrag not help that much like you mention. PS3 has 'linux' based file table - it work different. Defrag is good but rather with old Windows/DOS with FAT32/ first NTFS file tables.. 3. Reinstaling games: - I use my Dust build at HDD (7200 rpm) about 3 years. Amount of lags that we get in beta is nothing to compare as today. All old files don't cost me more lag. - Two weeks ago I changed HDD 7200 rpm to SDD. Not much (in my opinion) improvement at fresh files and only one game at PS3. 4. Modern HDTV. Most LCD with toon of electronics that enchances visuals ;) No one mention about time that TV need to do it. My advise. Use fast monitors. - At TV try trun off every 'enchancer'(more and more comes with 'game mode' - that help). Even so average monitor give you less input lag and this lead to be more responsible. 5. Connection/Internet :) My advise anywhere and always via cable. Any wireles conection can give you 'spike lag' by default. That is not matter overal speed. Ping is important. And you can get same ping at low speed conection as at fast. Also try choose conection with higer upload transfers. This help to. 8 MB/s today is enough for transfers FHD videos and this is plenty for online gaming... if you have good ping to game server. Fastest conections come with better hardware that by default lower your ping (localy)... but if you have chance to choose your connection, test it fully and choose it by ping to game server. Thx for read this. And remeber hardware is nothing if you can't shoot ;) Not much time left...
Arirana Negative-Feedback. 1	Posted - 2015.07.11 16:57:00 - [48] - Quote bump for those experiencing lag with the new update The Official Ari QQ Thread
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 254	Posted - 2015.07.27 21:34:00 - [49] - Quote Bump, also ultra slims don't come with a bracket so you'll have to buy one compatibile with the PS3...or if your feeling ballsy like me you can do the credit card trick (Would not recommend though)
AP Grasshopper Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 261	Posted - 2015.08.04 17:45:00 - [50] - Quote Keeping your ps3 cool through putting it in a open space with airflow from all 6 sides helps as well.

Fluffy Exterminatus Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 81	Posted - 2015.08.09 13:39:00 - [51] - Quote So changing to 480p/SD will make all other games look ****** as well im guessing. Not worth it CCP Rattati - Grand Dragon Wizard of the Gaylente Agenda Touched by his noodly appendage
Leovarian L Lavitz Vader's-Fist 1	Posted - 2015.08.09 13:52:00 - [52] - Quote Put the HD TV in game mode, it drops all the lagging extras for supper fast game response Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto Dueling is my specialty
Arirana Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.09.07 14:06:00 - [53] - Quote Updated with one of the more recent methods. Dust doesn't have any trophies, and it seems that having your trophy collection remain online while you play uses up small amounts of RAM. Refer to low fps prevention step #2 for how to turn it off. The Official Ari QQ Thread
WyrmHero1945 Finesse Soldiers 626	Posted - 2015.09.07 14:32:00 - [54] - Quote I haven't played with SDTV since 2010. I really haven't noticed any sort of input lag on mine. My suggestion is to turn off the motion interpolation setting: judder and blur both to 0. Also I can play Dust with a 128 kbps connection with minimal lag. The most important thing is having good ping. No idea how to check this though.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Eternal Beings RUST415 769	Posted - 2015.10.03 07:03:00 - [55] - Quote Bump. LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // *Director of Eternal Beings* // *GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate*
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.10.03 10:52:00 - [56] - Quote Thanks for the heads up and information. Useful but is certainly no way to guarantee that you do not get FPS drops still as well as all of the other problems. We are in 2015.... we should never have to do such things. The game is basic, our phones could probably run the damn thing better than the PS3. This alone really pisses me off about DUST and CCP do absolutely nothing to even address it. There was talk some weeks ago about improving performance and testing but what ever happened to the results of that? Half a job CCP. This is the turning point, the rising of the tide. No fear inside
Spaceman-Rob Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 984	Posted - 2015.10.03 11:01:00 - [57] - Quote Arirana wrote: Updated with one of the more recent methods. Dust doesn't have any trophies, and it seems that having your trophy collection remain online while you play uses up small amounts of RAM. Refer to low fps prevention step #2 for how to turn it off. I did this some time ago and was very happy with the result. By the way! How do you strafe so fast and why do your nova knifes shoot bullets?
Starlight Burner Black Screen Adaptation. 529	Posted - 2015.10.03 13:23:00 - [58] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Arirana wrote: Updated with one of the more recent methods. Dust doesn't have any trophies, and it seems that having your trophy collection remain online while you play uses up small amounts of RAM. Refer to low fps prevention step #2 for how to turn it off. I did this some time ago and was very happy with the result. By the way! How do you strafe so fast and why do your nova knifes shoot bullets? Glitch abuse, which is technically cheating but CCP won't do anything. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 941	Posted - 2015.10.03 16:22:00 - [59] - Quote Ahem. Here's a really good tip. Leave your core locus nades,massdrivers and your habits of excessively throwing deployable equipment. All those explosion take a frame or two. (So quit spamming grenades,that crap is annoying and lowers frames.) All those nanohive bubbles also are extra (uselessly flashy) effects. (Which is why I use standard nanohives to refill all ammo. Cuz they break after feeding my hungry assault rifle. ) Use weapons with LOW muzzle flash. Good fooking werk ccp. Have you tried fireing a rail rifle in a slightly dark or very dark area? The muzzle flash is dam seizure inducing. Can we tone the muzzle flash down a bit. Damn near had a seizure and I'm not even epileptic. Ha! You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H No Context 235	Posted - 2015.10.03 16:48:00 - [60] - Quote SSD's as low as $40. Granted they are low GB, but I only use my PS3 for Dust at this point. I'll just install and remove games as is necessary. Ordered - ADATA Premier SP600 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ASP600S3-64GM-C Going to Hawaii for a week. Will let you know how it performs when I'm back and have it installed.

Arirana Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.12.18 06:22:00 - [61] - Quote stabs thread with a nanite injector Lag Prevention Guide Æ
xmus-jaxon flaxon-waxon Suck My Null Sack 43	Posted - 2015.12.18 06:50:00 - [62] - Quote Stabs you in eye with needle because you create lag Quse the cat is a scrub
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.12.18 07:29:00 - [63] - Quote All I'm getting from where this thread went is: having an SSD seems to make players who don't, lag and rubberband when you get close.... If you are loading faster I have no doubt the teleporting we see are those with SSD. (Or potatoweb, take your pick) When the teleport always seems to be in their favor, SSD. Glitchy stutter bs skipping about, potatonet. An outright advantage over other players. Possibly even responsible for the current state of matches, given how many people I have seen talking about owning one. Dust was written for a uniform set of hardware. The more I think about it the more certain I am. Once enough people have an SSD, it will become unplayable to those without... Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.12.18 08:42:00 - [64] - Quote Devadander wrote: All I'm getting from where this thread went is: having an SSD seems to make players who don't, lag and rubberband when you get close.... If you are loading faster I have no doubt the teleporting we see are those with SSD. (Or potatoweb, take your pick) When the teleport always seems to be in their favor, SSD. Glitchy stutter bs skipping about, potatonet. An outright advantage over other players. Possibly even responsible for the current state of matches, given how many people I have seen talking about owning one. Dust was written for a uniform set of hardware. The more I think about it the more certain I am. Once enough people have an SSD, it will become unplayable to those without... lmao even before SSD's this game always had problems. Having one does not fix anything but it alleviates some of the issues. +Éux-¦-P-¦+¦-¦-ç+É.k-P
l-o-i-c DUST University Ivy League 1	Posted - 2015.12.18 14:37:00 - [65] - Quote Don't hate. LAG is the one thing that Dust does exceedingly well.
Grease Spillett OSG Planetary Operations 1	Posted - 2015.12.18 17:09:00 - [66] - Quote Hey Dev's/ Archduke this honestly needs a sticky. Seriously. Highly recommend it. At least tear out all the posts and leave Ari's text. Somebody call for an exterminator? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0bJCvSFeA
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.12.18 18:26:00 - [67] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Devadander wrote: All I'm getting from where this thread went is: having an SSD seems to make players who don't, lag and rubberband when you get close.... If you are loading faster I have no doubt the teleporting we see are those with SSD. (Or potatoweb, take your pick) When the teleport always seems to be in their favor, SSD. Glitchy stutter bs skipping about, potatonet. An outright advantage over other players. Possibly even responsible for the current state of matches, given how many people I have seen talking about owning one. Dust was written for a uniform set of hardware. The more I think about it the more certain I am. Once enough people have an SSD, it will become unplayable to those without... lmao even before SSD's this game always had problems. Having one does not fix anything but it alleviates some of the issues. It only helps those who have one. As I clearly pointed out. It is actually making dust worse for those without. Giving you a true advantage. Basically echoing everything from my last post... sigh Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Dead Cavino Lunatic.High 162	Posted - 2015.12.18 21:20:00 - [68] - Quote Are the A/V cables required to play in 480p? Or can I just change the settings while using the HDMI cable? I'm currently trying the second approach, as I don't have A/V cables. But I'm noticing that chevrons, icons on the map, objectives, and various things don't line up with there actual location. Is this normal? I don't like two-legged things.
ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 962	Posted - 2015.12.19 11:09:00 - [69] - Quote Appreciate the time and effort put into this article for the benefit of DUST but after trying literally everything but an SSD there are in my opinion 3 main things that make noticeable differences. 1st - Resetting your PS3 before battles (PC) makes the most immediate difference and really should be mandatory but it does not guarantee a smooth match. 2nd - If you can stomach the lower resolution setting (480p or 560p or something like that) this does make a noticeable difference to overall performance and reduced input lag but again it looks terrible and does certainly make it much harder to spot enemies at distance. 3rd - Having a fresh install of the game or having all mails and excess junk deleted certainly improves some aspects of the performance of the game, especially the fitting screen and other menus. At the end of the day there is only so much you can squeeze out of an overtaxed and ageing system like the PS3.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 18	Posted - 2015.12.19 16:41:00 - [70] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: At the end of the day there is only so much you can squeeze out of an overtaxed and ageing system like the PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRAKzpuRAzo Dropsuit Usage Rates

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.12.19 21:38:00 - [71] - Quote D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote: Solid post. SSD is a considerable investment, especially for a outdated console but the rest of the tips are easy enough to execute. For me personally, deleting all mail and contacts proved enough to eradicate most of the FPS lag. Add in a reset before every PC and I can enjoy a decent experience. SSD as an investment does not end at PS3. As it is an item easily installed, in can be reinstalled on different system. I, for example, use my old computer SSD which got too small for me nowadays in my PS3 but it's perfect for console where Dust is the only game I have. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROSKIN" for list of skins for sale!
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.12.19 21:40:00 - [72] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: 1# thing is don't play multi player video games against other people who have potato internet. In those cases most often they have the disadvantage and you have the benefit. CCP server is the boss there. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROSKIN" for list of skins for sale!
The Noob Destroyer 1	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:11:00 - [73] - Quote I am submitting my entry to butthurtery PASA People Against Signatures And Acronyms.
Soto Gallente 502	Posted - 2016.01.27 20:22:00 - [74] - Quote This thread should never not be on the front page of GD Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Arirana Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2016.01.30 10:51:00 - [75] - Quote Updated (-áGëû -£-û-áGëû)=ƒæî GåÉ=¥É+=¥æÄ=¥æö =¥æâ=¥æƒ=¥æÆ=¥æú=¥æÆ=¥æ¢=¥æí=¥æû=¥æ£=¥æ¢ Æ
Grease Spillett Th3.Immortals Shadow of Dust 1	Posted - 2016.01.30 17:36:00 - [76] - Quote Hey Ari I got an SSD and installed it. It's by far the best thing you could possibly do. Also Wifi is a horrible idea. Somebody call for an exterminator? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0bJCvSFeA
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2016.01.30 18:05:00 - [77] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: 1# thing is don't play multi player video games against other people who have potato internet. In those cases most often they have the disadvantage and you have the benefit. CCP server is the boss there. Only people with really horrible internet are at a disadvantage. TQ is the boss and it decides in favor of those with the higher but not extreme latency. My month of being throttled was enough proof of that for me, I was practically a god. Look at them, it's like they're the star attraction in a fucking flea circus.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC 551	Posted - 2016.01.31 00:48:00 - [78] - Quote Arirana wrote: For those that need convincing of its positive effects to make the purchase of a SSD and the lengthy process of installing it worth it. HERE is a video on conducting performance tests between an HDD and a SSD, and HERE is a detailed but LONG explanation about why a SSD is superior. I'll leave what SSD you purchase up to you, but apparently Samsung, Intel and Crucial are good brand names. Now for how to physically remove your HDD and install your SSD, and then how to install the ps3 OS once its in there. HERE is a tutorial on how to physically remove your HDD and install a SSD on a slim. After you do that, go to THIS link, you will need it to install the latest ps3 software onto a flash drive. HERE is a tutorial video on how to install the latest ps3 OS onto your SSD once it is in there, the site it tells you to go to in the beginning of the video is the one I linked. How To Prevent Network/Server Lag Compared to fps drops players have less control of network lag, as there aren't as many things you can do to prevent it. However I do have some useful tips, again listed least time consuming/easiest first. Make sure your Battle Server is set to your region! Gamemode's like FW and PC ARE NOT purely whatever server you have selected, the server for those gamemode's is decided based on where the majority of the players in the battle are based out of. To take full advantage of this and avoid playing on a server that does not suit you, you can try to minimize playing with and against people that are not from your region. Many leaders of PC corps regularly tell their players to switch their battle server to the one that would give them the most advantage, in PC people from the same region in the world often blue up, so the game decider between say a Euro corp and a Latino Corp is often the competition for the server. Sad, but true. If you find that your internet connection seems to degrade over the course of a day or two, your might find THIS info useful, as you may there may be a problem with your network configuration or your router in general. If fixing it seems like too much work, rebooting your router at least once a day should stave off the connection degradation. HERE is a quick 2 min tutorial video on how to do it. Establish a wired connection between your ps3 and your router. Many people experience a significant improvement to their internet connection. Wireless is fine so long as your router is within close proximity to your ps3. The further away it is, the weaker the connection. Wired being the best. HERE is a tutorial video on how to set up a wired connection. Have a faster internet connection. I know for most people this is really obvious, but a lot of you seem to prefer/only have access to potato internet, which is unfortunate. You should have at least 8 megabits per second, anything less than that is potato status and will make you lag like hell. How to lessen Input Lag/delay The most sure fire way to reduce input lag is to purchase a new monitor with as little ms as possible, and to play on a lower resolution. HERE is a site that may help you find the one best for you. If this option does not seem appealing, lowering the visual settings on your TV is an okay alternative, any setting that improves the image in general. It is also a fact that wired controllers produce better response times than wireless in general, but it's a very small and inconsequential difference and depends on the which brand name you purchase your controller from, which I can't help you with. Kalante Schiffer knows more about this I do, HERE is a link to his post further down in the thread. Well that's all I got. Please keep the thread on topic, feel free to contribute and call me out on anything I left out or am wrong about. Wrote this same **** a year ago, no one cared. I do most of this for Dust, and honestly its too much bullshit for a game when BF4 runs so smooth. Cant wait to see this game on my 8 cores on my PS4 . Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC 552	Posted - 2016.01.31 13:30:00 - [79] - Quote Arirana wrote: For those that need convincing of its positive effects to make the purchase of a SSD and the lengthy process of installing it worth it. HERE is a video on conducting performance tests between an HDD and a SSD, and HERE is a detailed but LONG explanation about why a SSD is superior. I'll leave what SSD you purchase up to you, but apparently Samsung, Intel and Crucial are good brand names. Now for how to physically remove your HDD and install your SSD, and then how to install the ps3 OS once its in there. HERE is a tutorial on how to physically remove your HDD and install a SSD on a slim. After you do that, go to THIS link, you will need it to install the latest ps3 software onto a flash drive. HERE is a tutorial video on how to install the latest ps3 OS onto your SSD once it is in there, the site it tells you to go to in the beginning of the video is the one I linked. How To Prevent Network/Server Lag Compared to fps drops players have less control of network lag, as there aren't as many things you can do to prevent it. However I do have some useful tips, again listed least time consuming/easiest first. Make sure your Battle Server is set to your region! Gamemode's like FW and PC ARE NOT purely whatever server you have selected, the server for those gamemode's is decided based on where the majority of the players in the battle are based out of. To take full advantage of this and avoid playing on a server that does not suit you, you can try to minimize playing with and against people that are not from your region. Many leaders of PC corps regularly tell their players to switch their battle server to the one that would give them the most advantage, in PC people from the same region in the world often blue up, so the game decider between say a Euro corp and a Latino Corp is often the competition for the server. Sad, but true. If you find that your internet connection seems to degrade over the course of a day or two, your might find THIS info useful, as you may there may be a problem with your network configuration or your router in general. If fixing it seems like too much work, rebooting your router at least once a day should stave off the connection degradation. HERE is a quick 2 min tutorial video on how to do it. Establish a wired connection between your ps3 and your router. Many people experience a significant improvement to their internet connection. Wireless is fine so long as your router is within close proximity to your ps3. The further away it is, the weaker the connection. Wired being the best. HERE is a tutorial video on how to set up a wired connection. Have a faster internet connection. I know for most people this is really obvious, but a lot of you seem to prefer/only have access to potato internet, which is unfortunate. You should have at least 8 megabits per second, anything less than that is potato status and will make you lag like hell. How to lessen Input Lag/delay The most sure fire way to reduce input lag is to purchase a new monitor with as little ms as possible, and to play on a lower resolution. HERE is a site that may help you find the one best for you. If this option does not seem appealing, lowering the visual settings on your TV is an okay alternative, any setting that improves the image in general. It is also a fact that wired controllers produce better response times than wireless in general, but it's a very small and inconsequential difference and depends on the which brand name you purchase your controller from, which I can't help you with. Kalante Schiffer knows more about this I do, HERE is a link to his post further down in the thread. Well that's all I got. Please keep the thread on topic, feel free to contribute and call me out on anything I left out or am wrong about. Let me expand on this by telling you this one thing. If you want 80 or 90% less framerate drop, simply NEVER PLAY GALLENTE RESEARCH FACILITY. Since I personally made this change most of the other stuff isnt even an issue. See once those memory leaks start quality goes down even after that match. In PC or FW this is not viable option, but for pubs just leave it. The fewer instances of this map in play on TQ the better. Just leave. Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
pejczyk Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2016.01.31 13:38:00 - [80] - Quote any tips for best modded controller ? ;)

Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2016.01.31 14:16:00 - [81] - Quote no amount of hardware is going to fix the issues with the software or netcode. its not incumbent on the customer to run the game at 480p and drop more than $100 on supplental hardware to alliveate some lag on a game from 2013; that is all but absent from other ps3 online games. destiny has far more content, textures maps and models to load not to mention code for AI, with the players i run with there just as diverse as the ones on dust, spanning the states, europe, and australia, and yet i dont have to reset my ps3 every few hours to keep destiny stable. Yes Destiny has a bigger software budget, but how it runs compared to Dust 514 demostrates that its not a hardeware issue. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
Cyrus Grevare warravens Imperium Eden 487	Posted - 2016.01.31 19:38:00 - [82] - Quote Could we also get a Glitch Exploit Guide? you are the go-to authority on that subject I've heard and experienced first hand (yes, I'm salty ) www.protofits.com - a Dust 514 fitting tool
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC 552	Posted - 2016.02.01 00:12:00 - [83] - Quote Cyrus Grevare wrote: Could we also get a Glitch Exploit Guide? you are the go-to authority on that subject I've heard and experienced first hand (yes, I'm salty ) Ya that weak b it c h used to melee glitch back in the day. Im against slavery says the liberal, as he picks up his Iphone 5, made in China.
Arirana Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2016.02.01 06:17:00 - [84] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: Hey Dev's/ Archduke this honestly needs a sticky. Seriously. Highly recommend it. At least tear out all the posts and leave Ari's text. CCP will never sticky something with my name on it, our best hope is to manually keep the thread alive. Of course that's hard considering half the community wants to slit my throat lol (-áGëû -£-û-áGëû)=ƒæî GåÉ=¥É+=¥æÄ=¥æö =¥æâ=¥æƒ=¥æÆ=¥æú=¥æÆ=¥æ¢=¥æí=¥æû=¥æ£=¥æ¢ Æ
CUSE TOWN333 Second-Nature Shadow of Dust 3	Posted - 2016.02.01 06:37:00 - [85] - Quote I have not played in like 4 months. Jumped on lastnight and went in a PC against some jumpy Latinos and it was lagging like crazy balls. Good thing everyone sucks now cause i can't imagine what it would be like to play against good players in this lag. But maybe from playing so much Rainbow 6 i forgot that games are not ment to lag. I can't believe we used to play dust so much and try to ignore the lag. Vanu master race.
Ross Ken-Oh ALCOLIZZATI INCAZZATI 46	Posted - 2016.02.01 16:45:00 - [86] - Quote Arirana wrote: Lag and low fps has been an incurable plague of the dust bunnies of New Eden since the birth of our kind. However, there are ways to fight it. The first step in fighting lag and low frames per second is understanding the causes, and understanding the different times of lag. Also, that lag and low fps are different. HERE is an article about why they're different but can be caused by the same things leading to the two being confused. Low Frame Rate The most common and recurring performance problem is low fps. Its pretty straight forward and easy to identify, as the main symptom is your gameplay looking a little more like a slideshow. It's often caused by memory leaks or processes in general that require too much RAM. Network/Server Lag The main symptom of network lag is something called rubber banding. Rubber banding is the phenomenon where actions performed by the player seem to be "undone" with consistent frequency. Here's an EXAMPLE video of rubber banding. This is most often caused by a poor connection with the Dust 514 servers, either via ping, a poor internet connection on part of the player, or server side problems. Dust 514 shares servers with Eve Online, on many occasions massive battles have broken out in Eve online which can put large burdens on the servers altogether leading to network lag for both games. Input Lag This one is less known about, it's basically the delay between your TV receiving a signal and it being displayed, as well the amount of time it takes for the game to react to commands sent from your controller or kb/m. How To Prevent Drops in Framerate As of right now there is no way known to me for a player to prevent memory leaks altogether. There are ways to slow and lessen its effects, which I will explain right now, listed in order of the least time consuming and easiest to perform. Open your neocom, go to System Operation, then to options, then to video. Set your texture detail to low, and your effect detail to low. This is very easy, and improves performance slightly. Turn off your trophies. PS menu> Trophy Collection> Press Triangle> Set to Offline mode. I saw a significant performance improvement. Deleting all mails and contacts is known to yield immediate performance improvements. Similarly, keeping the number of channels you are in to a minimum reduces framerate drops as well. Other things such as how many boosters you have running or queued at once or how many fittings you have have lesser significant impacts on performance. Of course, these options are sacrificial, but they are quick and easy. Disable voice chat through System Operation. Voice chat is a tested and proven source of severe frame rate drops, its just common sense the less the Dust client is trying to process the less performance issues on your plate. With a little discussion and planning, you and your friends can find an alternative means of communication that doesn't cause lag and is actually more reliable than Dust communication albeit less convenient. Of course there's little reason not to utilize Dust Comms when not in battle if the need arises. I use Curse as my alternative communication program, my ps3 setup is right next to my computer. (Nyain San used Skype back in the day. Yes, the whole japanese speaking team in a skype call) Resetting your game via quitting the game to the PS menu and relaunching is the most obvious yet slightly time consuming and tedious option, but is known to temporarily fix memory leaks. Hard resetting involves shutting down your ps3 entirely, and restarting it after a small amount of time has passed. This is even more effective and also gives your ps3 a chance to cooldown. De-Fragmenting your HDD if you have one and keeping your ps3 clean are essential. Defragging your HDD (hard disk drive) basically moves relevant data closer together and to more easily accessible locations in your hardrive, increasing data read speeds. Cleaning your ps3 is highly recommended and should be performed at least once a week to prevent overheating (which can lead to YLOD). This is one of the more tedious options, but is easy to perform once you know what you're doing. HERE is a tutorial video on how to do both. Playing in standard definition aka 480p is one of the most effective ways to prevent framerate drops, but as can be expected, it looks crappier than 720p. HERE is a tutorial video on how to easily change your ps3 to 480p/SD from HD, and vice versa. Swapping your HDD (hard disk drive) for a SSD (solid state drive). This is by far the most effective way to prevent drops in framerate, due to the SSD's superior data reading speeds. However, this is also the most costly and time consuming option. If you choose to get an SSD, PLEASE know and remember that you should not defragment an SSD, as it does not benefit from it, rather it wears it down faster. HERE is a more thorough explanation. sorry for the stupid question but, if you defragg the HDD in the ps3, all the file will be loss? (\ (\ ( =GÇÖ:GÇÖ) n++Gö¦GòÉS+Ç GÖª GÖá GÖÑ GÖú (..(GÇ£)(GÇ£)
ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 1	Posted - 2016.02.01 18:54:00 - [87] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: ANON Cerberus wrote: At the end of the day there is only so much you can squeeze out of an overtaxed and ageing system like the PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRAKzpuRAzo Hideo Kojima and his team have always been masters at the PS architecture when creating games. On every generation of the Playstation Metal Gear has always had some of the best visuals and innovation. Lets not forget the level of smoothness and optimisation they have always been able to achieve when very few others could. So yea I agree.
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2016.02.01 19:05:00 - [88] - Quote Ross Ken-Oh wrote: sorry for the stupid question but, if you defragg the HDD in the ps3, all the file will be loss? No, defragging just puts all the data that goes to the same thing in the same area basically. It's like having a group of friends that live on different floors of an apartment building; defragging doesn't evict them, it puts them on the same floor. Look at them, it's like they're the star attraction in a fucking flea circus.


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