All I'm getting from where this thread went is: having an SSD seems to make players who don't, lag and rubberband when you get close.... If you are loading faster I have no doubt the teleporting we see are those with SSD. (Or potatoweb, take your pick) When the teleport always seems to be in their favor, SSD. Glitchy stutter bs skipping about, potatonet.

An outright advantage over other players. Possibly even responsible for the current state of matches, given how many people I have seen talking about owning one.

Dust was written for a uniform set of hardware. The more I think about it the more certain I am. Once enough people have an SSD, it will become unplayable to those without...

lmao even before SSD's this game always had problems. Having one does not fix anything but it alleviates some of the issues.

At the end of the day there is only so much you can squeeze out of an overtaxed and ageing system like the PS3.

Solid post. SSD is a considerable investment, especially for a outdated console but the rest of the tips are easy enough to execute.

For me personally, deleting all mail and contacts proved enough to eradicate most of the FPS lag. Add in a reset before every PC and I can enjoy a decent experience.

1# thing is don't play multi player video games against other people who have potato internet.

In those cases most often they have the disadvantage and you have the benefit.


CCP server is the boss there.

For those that need convincing of its positive effects to make the purchase of a SSD and the lengthy process of installing it worth it. HERE is a video on conducting performance tests between an HDD and a SSD, and HERE is a detailed but LONG explanation about why a SSD is superior.

I'll leave what SSD you purchase up to you, but apparently Samsung, Intel and Crucial are good brand names. Now for how to physically remove your HDD and install your SSD, and then how to install the ps3 OS once its in there. HERE is a tutorial on how to physically remove your HDD and install a SSD on a slim. After you do that, go to THIS link, you will need it to install the latest ps3 software onto a flash drive. HERE is a tutorial video on how to install the latest ps3 OS onto your SSD once it is in there, the site it tells you to go to in the beginning of the video is the one I linked.



Compared to fps drops players have less control of network lag, as there aren't as many things you can do to prevent it. However I do have some useful tips, again listed least time consuming/easiest first.

1. Make sure your Battle Server is set to your region! Gamemode's like FW and PC ARE NOT purely whatever server you have selected, the server for those gamemode's is decided based on where the majority of the players in the battle are based out of. To take full advantage of this and avoid playing on a server that does not suit you, you can try to minimize playing with and against people that are not from your region.

Many leaders of PC corps regularly tell their players to switch their battle server to the one that would give them the most advantage, in PC people from the same region in the world often blue up, so the game decider between say a Euro corp and a Latino Corp is often the competition for the server. Sad, but true.


2. If you find that your internet connection seems to degrade over the course of a day or two, your might find THIS info useful, as you may there may be a problem with your network configuration or your router in general. If fixing it seems like too much work, rebooting your router at least once a day should stave off the connection degradation. HERE is a quick 2 min tutorial video on how to do it.


3. Establish a wired connection between your ps3 and your router. Many people experience a significant improvement to their internet connection. Wireless is fine so long as your router is within close proximity to your ps3. The further away it is, the weaker the connection. Wired being the best. HERE is a tutorial video on how to set up a wired connection.


4. Have a faster internet connection. I know for most people this is really obvious, but a lot of you seem to prefer/only have access to potato internet, which is unfortunate. You should have at least 8 megabits per second, anything less than that is potato status and will make you lag like hell.

The most sure fire way to reduce input lag is to purchase a new monitor with as little ms as possible, and to play on a lower resolution. HERE is a site that may help you find the one best for you.

If this option does not seem appealing, lowering the visual settings on your TV is an okay alternative, any setting that improves the image in general. It is also a fact that wired controllers produce better response times than wireless in general, but it's a very small and inconsequential difference and depends on the which brand name you purchase your controller from, which I can't help you with.

Kalante Schiffer knows more about this I do, HERE is a link to his post further down in the thread.


Well that's all I got. Please keep the thread on topic, feel free to contribute and call me out on anything I left out or am wrong about.

For those that need convincing of its positive effects to make the purchase of a SSD and the lengthy process of installing it worth it. HERE is a video on conducting performance tests between an HDD and a SSD, and HERE is a detailed but LONG explanation about why a SSD is superior.

I'll leave what SSD you purchase up to you, but apparently Samsung, Intel and Crucial are good brand names. Now for how to physically remove your HDD and install your SSD, and then how to install the ps3 OS once its in there. HERE is a tutorial on how to physically remove your HDD and install a SSD on a slim. After you do that, go to THIS link, you will need it to install the latest ps3 software onto a flash drive. HERE is a tutorial video on how to install the latest ps3 OS onto your SSD once it is in there, the site it tells you to go to in the beginning of the video is the one I linked.



Compared to fps drops players have less control of network lag, as there aren't as many things you can do to prevent it. However I do have some useful tips, again listed least time consuming/easiest first.

1. Make sure your Battle Server is set to your region! Gamemode's like FW and PC ARE NOT purely whatever server you have selected, the server for those gamemode's is decided based on where the majority of the players in the battle are based out of. To take full advantage of this and avoid playing on a server that does not suit you, you can try to minimize playing with and against people that are not from your region.

Many leaders of PC corps regularly tell their players to switch their battle server to the one that would give them the most advantage, in PC people from the same region in the world often blue up, so the game decider between say a Euro corp and a Latino Corp is often the competition for the server. Sad, but true.


2. If you find that your internet connection seems to degrade over the course of a day or two, your might find THIS info useful, as you may there may be a problem with your network configuration or your router in general. If fixing it seems like too much work, rebooting your router at least once a day should stave off the connection degradation. HERE is a quick 2 min tutorial video on how to do it.


3. Establish a wired connection between your ps3 and your router. Many people experience a significant improvement to their internet connection. Wireless is fine so long as your router is within close proximity to your ps3. The further away it is, the weaker the connection. Wired being the best. HERE is a tutorial video on how to set up a wired connection.


4. Have a faster internet connection. I know for most people this is really obvious, but a lot of you seem to prefer/only have access to potato internet, which is unfortunate. You should have at least 8 megabits per second, anything less than that is potato status and will make you lag like hell.

The most sure fire way to reduce input lag is to purchase a new monitor with as little ms as possible, and to play on a lower resolution. HERE is a site that may help you find the one best for you.

If this option does not seem appealing, lowering the visual settings on your TV is an okay alternative, any setting that improves the image in general. It is also a fact that wired controllers produce better response times than wireless in general, but it's a very small and inconsequential difference and depends on the which brand name you purchase your controller from, which I can't help you with.

Kalante Schiffer knows more about this I do, HERE is a link to his post further down in the thread.


Well that's all I got. Please keep the thread on topic, feel free to contribute and call me out on anything I left out or am wrong about.

Could we also get a Glitch Exploit Guide? you are the go-to authority on that subject I've heard and experienced first hand (yes, I'm salty )

Hey Dev's/ Archduke this honestly needs a sticky.

Seriously.

Highly recommend it. At least tear out all the posts and leave Ari's text.

Lag and low fps has been an incurable plague of the dust bunnies of New Eden since the birth of our kind. However, there are ways to fight it.

The first step in fighting lag and low frames per second is understanding the causes, and understanding the different times of lag. Also, that lag and low fps are different. HERE is an article about why they're different but can be caused by the same things leading to the two being confused.

Low Frame Rate

The most common and recurring performance problem is low fps. Its pretty straight forward and easy to identify, as the main symptom is your gameplay looking a little more like a slideshow. It's often caused by memory leaks or processes in general that require too much RAM.



The main symptom of network lag is something called rubber banding. Rubber banding is the phenomenon where actions performed by the player seem to be "undone" with consistent frequency. Here's an EXAMPLE video of rubber banding.

This is most often caused by a poor connection with the Dust 514 servers, either via ping, a poor internet connection on part of the player, or server side problems. Dust 514 shares servers with Eve Online, on many occasions massive battles have broken out in Eve online which can put large burdens on the servers altogether leading to network lag for both games.



This one is less known about, it's basically the delay between your TV receiving a signal and it being displayed, as well the amount of time it takes for the game to react to commands sent from your controller or kb/m.



As of right now there is no way known to me for a player to prevent memory leaks altogether. There are ways to slow and lessen its effects, which I will explain right now, listed in order of the least time consuming and easiest to perform.

1. Open your neocom, go to System Operation, then to options, then to video. Set your texture detail to low, and your effect detail to low. This is very easy, and improves performance slightly.


2. Turn off your trophies. PS menu> Trophy Collection> Press Triangle> Set to Offline mode. I saw a significant performance improvement.


3. Deleting all mails and contacts is known to yield immediate performance improvements. Similarly, keeping the number of channels you are in to a minimum reduces framerate drops as well. Other things such as how many boosters you have running or queued at once or how many fittings you have have lesser significant impacts on performance. Of course, these options are sacrificial, but they are quick and easy.


4. Disable voice chat through System Operation. Voice chat is a tested and proven source of severe frame rate drops, its just common sense the less the Dust client is trying to process the less performance issues on your plate. With a little discussion and planning, you and your friends can find an alternative means of communication that doesn't cause lag and is actually more reliable than Dust communication albeit less convenient.

Of course there's little reason not to utilize Dust Comms when not in battle if the need arises. I use Curse as my alternative communication program, my ps3 setup is right next to my computer. (Nyain San used Skype back in the day. Yes, the whole japanese speaking team in a skype call)


5. Resetting your game via quitting the game to the PS menu and relaunching is the most obvious yet slightly time consuming and tedious option, but is known to temporarily fix memory leaks. Hard resetting involves shutting down your ps3 entirely, and restarting it after a small amount of time has passed. This is even more effective and also gives your ps3 a chance to cooldown.


6. De-Fragmenting your HDD if you have one and keeping your ps3 clean are essential. Defragging your HDD (hard disk drive) basically moves relevant data closer together and to more easily accessible locations in your hardrive, increasing data read speeds. Cleaning your ps3 is highly recommended and should be performed at least once a week to prevent overheating (which can lead to YLOD). This is one of the more tedious options, but is easy to perform once you know what you're doing. HERE is a tutorial video on how to do both.


7. Playing in standard definition aka 480p is one of the most effective ways to prevent framerate drops, but as can be expected, it looks crappier than 720p. HERE is a tutorial video on how to easily change your ps3 to 480p/SD from HD, and vice versa.


8. Swapping your HDD (hard disk drive) for a SSD (solid state drive). This is by far the most effective way to prevent drops in framerate, due to the SSD's superior data reading speeds. However, this is also the most costly and time consuming option. If you choose to get an SSD, PLEASE know and remember that you should not defragment an SSD, as it does not benefit from it, rather it wears it down faster. HERE is a more thorough explanation.

sorry for the stupid question but, if you defragg the HDD in the ps3, all the file will be loss?