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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.10 15:38:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:Omega Nox wrote:
PS4 is a PC with a BSD variant. BSD is a linux flavor, and linux is a UNIX variant. UNIX was created by Bell labs a long, long time ago, and UE4 has already been written for BSD othe PS4.
yet the PS4 is comparable to a low end PC With an O/S that is 100% optimized to do 1 thing- and that is play games. @1080 & 120mhz@60fps. AMD, who created the video chipset is optimizing SONY's VR headset for them. Already struggling with that. 900p and 720p in some recent games at 30fps
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
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Posted - 2015.06.10 15:46:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Omega Nox wrote:Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Legion, as we understood it, was a project aimed as redesigning the New Eden FPS that was know of as DUST 514. The copywrite on Eve: Legion has lapsed, meaning that the project may not have been greenlit. More than likely this means CCP plans on porting Dust to either PS4 or PC. Since CCP Rouge has said as recently as Fanfest 2015 that he wants a New Eden FPS on PC... I think we can guess where Dust will migrate to. It's also been stated that there are no plans to go to PS4. Rattati told me he WANTS to though :/, a cross ps4 and pc Dust 514 might be quite difficult Rattati is in charge of a game that was largely abandoned by CCP.
While he's doing a good job, Legion (or whatever they're calling it now) is outside of his control.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 15:56:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Omega Nox wrote:Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Legion, as we understood it, was a project aimed as redesigning the New Eden FPS that was know of as DUST 514. The copywrite on Eve: Legion has lapsed, meaning that the project may not have been greenlit. More than likely this means CCP plans on porting Dust to either PS4 or PC. Since CCP Rouge has said as recently as Fanfest 2015 that he wants a New Eden FPS on PC... I think we can guess where Dust will migrate to. It's also been stated that there are no plans to go to PS4. Rattati told me he WANTS to though :/, a cross ps4 and pc Dust 514 might be quite difficult Rattati is in charge of a game that was largely abandoned by CCP. While he's doing a good job, Legion (or whatever they're calling it now) is outside of his control.
Abandoned? a lot of stuff magically appeared over night..lol. yes, it mostly was to make DUST514 profitable, and yes it did make it profitable to some extent!
Last time I heard of CCP Rouge was that he was working on the phone demonstration app for EVE tail gunners inside CCP Shanghai.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 16:01:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:Omega Nox wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:Omega Nox wrote:
PS4 is a PC with a BSD variant. BSD is a linux flavor, and linux is a UNIX variant. UNIX was created by Bell labs a long, long time ago, and UE4 has already been written for BSD othe PS4.
yet the PS4 is comparable to a low end PC With an O/S that is 100% optimized to do 1 thing- and that is play games. @1080 & 120mhz@60fps. AMD, who created the video chipset is optimizing SONY's VR headset for them. Already struggling with that. 900p and 720p in some recent games at 30fps
It takes time for programmers to get up to speed, and it's a function of the game engine optimization, and not the game devs.
We are running GT6 @ 1080 and 60fps on the PS3 as well as COD. Our PS4 has GTA and Project Cars, and they run at a very comparable level to our dual SLI I7.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 19:13:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:Omega Nox wrote:
PS4 is a PC with a BSD variant. BSD is a linux flavor, and linux is a UNIX variant. UNIX was created by Bell labs a long, long time ago, and UE4 has already been written for BSD othe PS4.
yet the PS4 is comparable to a low end PC
No low end PC or even a high end PC has a 128bit bus to 8 gigs of DDR5 as the PS4 does. So for the price point the PS4 King of the hill.
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2015.06.10 19:30:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote: Our PS4 has GTA and Project Cars, and they run at a very comparable level to our dual SLI I7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj23pMdQBZ8&t=5s
Of course! The PS4's 1080p has a higher pixel ratio to screen count, that's just 1080p technology 101
I have a single GTX 970 running on a PC with a 6 year old budget AMD processor, and let me tell you I wish I spent that $3000 on a PS4, because if I use DSR to crank up the resolution past my monitors native 1920x1200 with all settings on very high, my FPS in GTAV almost drops down to 30 like the PS4 version. See, I have to make sacrifices, while the PS4 version is locked in at max settings for the PS4!
With AMD working so closely with Sony I'm sure that they will succeed in optimizing the Project Morpheus VR experience above and beyond the solid 90 frames per second at 2160x1200 resolution required by the HTC Vive and Oculus Rift, something that will be made easy with the PS4s advanced gaming optimized operating system oh god i can't keep going im dying |
Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 19:53:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Omega Nox wrote: Our PS4 has GTA and Project Cars, and they run at a very comparable level to our dual SLI I7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj23pMdQBZ8&t=5sOf course! The PS4's 1080p has a higher pixel ratio to screen count, that's just 1080p technology 101 I have a single GTX 970 running on a PC with a 6 year old budget AMD processor, and let me tell you I wish I spent that $3000 on a PS4, because if I use DSR to crank up the resolution past my monitors native 1920x1200 with all settings on very high, my FPS in GTAV almost drops down to 30 like the PS4 version. See, I have to make sacrifices, while the PS4 version is locked in at max settings for the PS4! With AMD working so closely with Sony I'm sure that they will succeed in optimizing the Project Morpheus VR experience above and beyond the solid 90 frames per second at 2160x1200 resolution required by the HTC Vive and Oculus Rift, something that will be made easy with the PS4s advanced gaming optimized operating system oh god i can't keep going im dying
I know huh, the Morpheus is going to rock hard. Imagine trying to use non controller peripherals with out being able to see them. I have driven with the rift, with a wheel in a pro seat and it worked, but if the game does not have a good UI for the VR you are lost. at least the Morph allows you to peek out the bottom.
As resolution to a monitor/TV is concerned I sit on a couch and the human eye cannot not tell resolution past 8 feet (I think it was 8 feet) so any thing over 1080 at the distance of most home entertainment setups is a waste. Couch, + Controller, +Morph will be a balls on fire hoot.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.06.10 19:55:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:I know huh, the Morpheus is going to rock hard. Imagine trying to use non controller peripherals with out being able to see them. I have driven with the rift, with a wheel in a pro seat and it worked, but if the game does not have a good UI for the VR you are lost. at least the Morph allows you to peek out the bottom.
As resolution is concerned I sit on a couch and the human eye cannot not tell resolution past 8 feet (I think it was 8 feet) so any thing over 1080 at the distance of most home entertainment setups is a waste. Couch, + Controller, +Morph will be a balls on fire hoot.
http://i.imgur.com/XKRztUc.gifv
@Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
80
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:04:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Omega Nox wrote:I know huh, the Morpheus is going to rock hard. Imagine trying to use non controller peripherals with out being able to see them. I have driven with the rift, with a wheel in a pro seat and it worked, but if the game does not have a good UI for the VR you are lost. at least the Morph allows you to peek out the bottom.
As resolution is concerned I sit on a couch and the human eye cannot not tell resolution past 8 feet (I think it was 8 feet) so any thing over 1080 at the distance of most home entertainment setups is a waste. Couch, + Controller, +Morph will be a balls on fire hoot.
http://i.imgur.com/XKRztUc.gifv
Merc points ret at aim point, looks around corner then looks back down ret that never left aim point-authenticity!
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:26:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Omega Nox wrote: Our PS4 has GTA and Project Cars, and they run at a very comparable level to our dual SLI I7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj23pMdQBZ8&t=5sOf course! The PS4's 1080p has a higher pixel ratio to screen count, that's just 1080p technology 101 I have a single GTX 970 running on a PC with a 6 year old budget AMD processor, and let me tell you I wish I spent that $3000 on a PS4, because if I use DSR to crank up the resolution past my monitors native 1920x1200 with all settings on very high, my FPS in GTAV almost drops down to 30 like the PS4 version. See, I have to make sacrifices, while the PS4 version is locked in at max settings for the PS4! With AMD working so closely with Sony I'm sure that they will succeed in optimizing the Project Morpheus VR experience above and beyond the solid 90 frames per second at 2160x1200 resolution required by the HTC Vive and Oculus Rift, something that will be made easy with the PS4s advanced gaming optimized operating system oh god i can't keep going im dying
For 3 grand you could of bought a Samsung 40inch, a PS4, a racing seat and a thrustmaster wheel and still had money to give CCP!
Too bad, but just think you can play goat simulator and all kinds of indy games.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:35:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:For 3 grand you could of bought a Samsung 40inch, a PS4, a racing seat and a thrustmaster wheel and still had money to give CCP!
Too bad, but just think you can play goat simulator and all kinds of indy games. You don't need $3k to destroy a PS4's hardware stats. Hell, you need roughly $450 to build a PC to surpass the current gen consoles.
And lol @ the indy game comment PCs play games from indy to AAA and you know it. Consoles get a handful of exclusives, and with the exception of certain Nintendo titles and franchise flagship mascot titles (e.g God of War for Sony), many of those exclusives one day end up on PC as legit ports.
Or you can just download an emulator in a year or so when the PS4 is LONG since obsolete and play PS3/4 games on it
@Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
80
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Omega Nox wrote:For 3 grand you could of bought a Samsung 40inch, a PS4, a racing seat and a thrustmaster wheel and still had money to give CCP!
Too bad, but just think you can play goat simulator and all kinds of indy games. You don't need $3k to destroy a PS4's hardware stats. Hell, you need roughly $450 to build a PC to surpass the current gen consoles. And lol @ the indy game comment PCs play games from indy to AAA and you know it. Consoles get a handful of exclusives, and with the exception of certain Nintendo titles and franchise flagship mascot titles (e.g God of War for Sony), many of those exclusives one day end up on PC as legit ports. Or you can just download an emulator in a year or so when the PS4 is LONG since obsolete and play PS3/4 games on it
Name one GOTY in the last 10 years that was not on the console.
I have a I7 with 750 ti in SLI.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:48:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Omega Nox wrote:For 3 grand you could of bought a Samsung 40inch, a PS4, a racing seat and a thrustmaster wheel and still had money to give CCP!
Too bad, but just think you can play goat simulator and all kinds of indy games. You don't need $3k to destroy a PS4's hardware stats. Hell, you need roughly $450 to build a PC to surpass the current gen consoles. And lol @ the indy game comment PCs play games from indy to AAA and you know it. Consoles get a handful of exclusives, and with the exception of certain Nintendo titles and franchise flagship mascot titles (e.g God of War for Sony), many of those exclusives one day end up on PC as legit ports. Or you can just download an emulator in a year or so when the PS4 is LONG since obsolete and play PS3/4 games on it
The reality of your post truly points out how out of touch PC gamers are with reality.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:50:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:Name one GOTY in the last 10 years that was not on the console.
I have a I7 with 750 ti in SLI. GOTY is pretty vague. Any company's GOTY? GameSpot 2010, StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty
Omega Nox wrote:The reality of your post truly points out how out of touch PC gamers are with reality. I don't mind spirited debates, but if this discussion devolves to personal jabs then I'm out.
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:52:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:
For 3 grand you could of bought a Samsung 40inch, a PS4, a racing seat and a thrustmaster wheel and still had money to give CCP!
Too bad, but just think you can play goat simulator and all kinds of indy games. If you where hard core FPS you would have noted AA or ARMA.
yeah man i cringe every time i think about it what a waste of money, i could be running a ps4 at 4kk resomolution right now, with a 250mbps comcast extreme internet connection for high definition gaming, instead i tried to build my own computer (ended up costing me twice as much cash as just buying from alienware) and it was obsolete like a month later, I'll need to upgrade again to play the PC port of the next COD
I mean goat simulator is pretty cool and I guess there are indie games like Star Citizen and Elite but it sucks not being able to play the latest AAAA games like The Cinematic 1886 and Dark Souls Werewolf Edition
And I can barely even afford games after all the money i spent on the computer, you can't really buy them used for pc like you can at gamestop with the PS4, i mean steam is running a sale starting tomorrow for the next couple of weeks which is ok sometimes games are like 5% off but still not as nice as being able to pay only $54.99 for a used game at gamestop with a pro rewards membership |
Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:54:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Omega Nox wrote:Name one GOTY in the last 10 years that was not on the console.
I have a I7 with 750 ti in SLI. GOTY is pretty vague. Any company's GOTY? GameSpot 2010, StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty
If you look at all of them, there where far more GOTY's that appeared on consoles that never had a PC version, and very few that where only PC.
When companies realized 10 years ago it was not the hardware but the media content that would determine platform they made changes to their operations. PC owners are in denial of these realities.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:54:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:And I can barely even afford games after all the money i spent on the computer, you can't really buy them used for pc like you can at gamestop with the PS4, i mean steam is running a sale starting tomorrow for the next couple of weeks which is ok sometimes games are like 5% off but still not as nice as being able to pay only $54.99 for a used game I wish our signatures allowed however many characters this is...
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:59:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:If you look at all of them, there where far more GOTY's that appeared on consoles that never had a PC version, and very few that where only PC.
When companies realized 10 years ago it was not the hardware but the media content that would determine platform they made changes to their operations. PC owners are in denial of these realities. Are we really basing a platform's worthiness on how many GOTY it boasts?
Look, take a minute to skim this when you have a few minutes. It's lengthy, but it explains why PC gaming is the better gaming platform thoroughly and cites its sources. It does so better than I can, I'm sure.
This isn't a cop out. I'm just tired of rehashing this with every dedicated console gamer out there
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:01:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Omega Nox wrote:
For 3 grand you could of bought a Samsung 40inch, a PS4, a racing seat and a thrustmaster wheel and still had money to give CCP!
Too bad, but just think you can play goat simulator and all kinds of indy games. If you where hard core FPS you would have noted AA or ARMA.
yeah man i cringe every time i think about it what a waste of money, i could be running a ps4 at 4kk resomolution right now, with a 250mbps comcast extreme internet connection for high definition gaming, instead i tried to build my own computer (ended up costing me twice as much cash as just buying from alienware) and it was obsolete like a month later, I'll need to upgrade again to play the PC port of the next COD I mean goat simulator is pretty cool and I guess there are indie games like Star Citizen and Elite but it sucks not being able to play the latest AAAA games like The Cinematic 1886 and Dark Souls Werewolf Edition And I can barely even afford games after all the money i spent on the computer, you can't really buy them used for pc like you can at gamestop with the PS4, i mean steam is running a sale starting tomorrow for the next couple of weeks which is ok sometimes games are like 5% off but still not as nice as being able to pay only $54.99 for a used game at gamestop with a pro rewards membership
Collect the "best of 2015" computer magazines when they come out and then build your computer in june/july. I plan ahead and keep copies of those magazines and then pull them out when it's time to buy components, by then the hardware vendors have hammered out many driver issues and you do not pay premium dollars. I also chase specific game titles and keep in mind the year that they where created and then you know by year what hardware to buy. FO4 and Bethesda worked with best of 2014/2015 PC's then you know how much is enough.
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SHERIFF joe arapio
US Border Patrol
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:07:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Steam supports: United States Dollars (USD), British Pounds (GBP), Russian Rubles (RUB), Brazilian Reais (BRL) or Euros (EUR) depending upon your location. Even if you don't live in one of those countries you can use PayPal. Thank you, for helping me prove the point that steamworks cannot compete, as they use a middle-man (Paypal). Why would you want an external step between you and a customer?
That step is also a layer of protection for you.
Lets say Steam got hacked and ripped off,,they dont have your bank information. They might get paypal,,,but that is pretty well protected.
It serves as a layer of security.
Thanks for proving that point for me.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
10
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:09:00 -
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Omega... It might help if you read Shooter's posts with heavy level of sarcasm lol
A helpful link: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
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SHERIFF joe arapio
US Border Patrol
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:11:00 -
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Why is it everytime I read omega nox I am picturing Megan Fox naked.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Omega... It might help if you read Shooter's posts with heavy level of sarcasm lol
I did, you guys are 1 dimensional.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:13:00 -
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SHERIFF joe arapio wrote:Why is it everytime I read omega nox I am picturing Megan Fox naked. Because there isn't a wrong time to picture Megan Fox naked.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:13:00 -
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SHERIFF joe arapio wrote:Omega Nox wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Steam supports: United States Dollars (USD), British Pounds (GBP), Russian Rubles (RUB), Brazilian Reais (BRL) or Euros (EUR) depending upon your location. Even if you don't live in one of those countries you can use PayPal. Thank you, for helping me prove the point that steamworks cannot compete, as they use a middle-man (Paypal). Why would you want an external step between you and a customer? That step is also a layer of protection for you. Lets say Steam got hacked and ripped off,,they dont have your bank information. They might get paypal,,,but that is pretty well protected. It serves as a layer of security. Thanks for proving that point for me.
Original point was currency conversions not security. Let me try that when paypal gets hacked eieio.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:21:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Omega Nox wrote:If you look at all of them, there where far more GOTY's that appeared on consoles that never had a PC version, and very few that where only PC.
When companies realized 10 years ago it was not the hardware but the media content that would determine platform they made changes to their operations. PC owners are in denial of these realities. Are we really basing a platform's worthiness on how many GOTY it boasts? Look, take a minute to skim this when you have a few minutes. It's lengthy, but it explains why PC gaming is the better gaming platform thoroughly and cites its sources. It does so better than I can, I'm sure. This isn't a cop out. I'm just tired of rehashing this with every dedicated console gamer out there
Wow, I bet the author hits his bong hard and wears a che shirt! I think my IQ, momentarily, dipped below 145 after a few seconds of reading his towelie logic.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
80
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:44:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Omega Nox wrote:Name one GOTY in the last 10 years that was not on the console.
I have a I7 with 750 ti in SLI. GOTY is pretty vague. Any company's GOTY? GameSpot 2010, StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty Omega Nox wrote:The reality of your post truly points out how out of touch PC gamers are with reality. I don't mind spirited debates, but if this discussion devolves to personal jabs then I'm out.
Not intended as a personal attack, maybe too snarky, and I do stand by it's logic-the media/content moved to the consoles a decade ago and you PC guys need to get on board -- the train left the station!
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:51:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote: I have a I7 with 750 ti in SLI.
750 ti in sli
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:56:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Omega Nox wrote: I have a I7 with 750 ti in SLI.
750 ti in sli you sure about that buddy
"divide by 9 to find a transposition of values"--ding ding ding you are corect!
my bad 570's
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:58:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Omega Nox wrote: I have a I7 with 750 ti in SLI.
750 ti in sli you sure about that buddy
AA is free maybe you could afford to play that game? You'll get waxed since you play games and not FPS, but it is free!
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