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Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 13:38:00 - [1] - Quote The reason is "show me the money!" SONY supports more international currencies for micro-transactions I counted 64 currencies including China. XBOX LIVE and Steamworks cannot compete, and CCP would never attempt it themselves. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros 1	Posted - 2015.06.10 13:46:00 - [2] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: The reason is "show me the money!" SONY supports more international currencies for micro-transactions I counted 64 currencies including China. XBOX LIVE and Steamworks cannot compete, and CCP would never attempt it themselves. a¦á_a¦á Closed beta vet. Master troll. No lifer. Master lurker.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 646	Posted - 2015.06.10 13:51:00 - [3] - Quote Deleted Click me
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.10 13:56:00 - [4] - Quote Steam supports: United States Dollars (USD), British Pounds (GBP), Russian Rubles (RUB), Brazilian Reais (BRL) or Euros (EUR) depending upon your location. Even if you don't live in one of those countries you can use PayPal. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 14:05:00 - [5] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Steam supports: United States Dollars (USD), British Pounds (GBP), Russian Rubles (RUB), Brazilian Reais (BRL) or Euros (EUR) depending upon your location. Even if you don't live in one of those countries you can use PayPal. Thank you, for helping me prove the point that steamworks cannot compete, as they use a middle-man (Paypal). Why would you want an external step between you and a customer? Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.10 14:16:00 - [6] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: [Thank you, for helping me prove the point that steamworks cannot compete, as they use a middle-man (Paypal). Why would you want an external step between you and a customer? It is a work around, sure. CCP sells Eve through Steam and through their website. No reason why they can't do this with Dust 514 if the currency thing really is an issue. Speaking of "an external step between you and the customer"... Sony/MS require all patches and updates to go through their own internal QA processes. This adds time between when CCP finishes a patch and when the patch finally hits our consoles. On Steam CCP releases a patch when they are done developing it. No middle men Furthermore, test servers for Dust 514 are unlikely on Sony consoles. I believe this is due to the test servers requiring a second client download and Sony is not okay with that. On Steam users can download test clients or even beta patches pre-production release easily. Plus, you know, consoles are inferior to PC gaming in other ways, but we will stick to the PSN vs. Steam argument for now. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 14:31:00 - [7] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Omega Nox wrote: [Thank you, for helping me prove the point that steamworks cannot compete, as they use a middle-man (Paypal). Why would you want an external step between you and a customer? It is a work around, sure. CCP sells Eve through Steam and through their website. No reason why they can't do this with Dust 514 if the currency thing really is an issue. Speaking of "an external step between you and the customer"... Sony/MS require all patches and updates to go through their own internal QA processes. This adds time between when CCP finishes a patch and when the patch finally hits our consoles. On Steam CCP releases a patch when they are done developing it. No middle men Furthermore, test servers for Dust 514 are unlikely on Sony consoles. I believe this is due to the test servers requiring a second client download and Sony is not okay with that. On Steam users can download test clients or even beta patches pre-production release easily. Plus, you know, consoles are inferior to PC gaming in other ways, but we will stick to the PSN vs. Steam argument for now. SONY does handle regression testing as a value service to CCP, and can complete the process in an amazing 7 days! Test servers are not necessary, people are haters...lol! As well as the fact that SONY PSN has 10x the number of "active" users , over SteamWorks-making them a burden with limited returns on CCP's efforts. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.10 14:34:00 - [8] - Quote This entire thread is a giant sh*tpost. We don't know what CCP is going to do, the timing says they've already made up their minds and there is nothing we can do to change it. Because if they haven't made up their minds the odds of achieving a port before sunset is about nil. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 14:37:00 - [9] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: This entire thread is a giant sh*tpost. We don't know what CCP is going to do, the timing says they've already made up their minds and there is nothing we can do to change it. Because if they haven't made up their minds the odds of achieving a port before sunset is about nil. You missed the clue! they added the name "EVE DUST514" to the art work before FF. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.10 14:49:00 - [10] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: This entire thread is a giant sh*tpost. We don't know what CCP is going to do, the timing says they've already made up their minds and there is nothing we can do to change it. Because if they haven't made up their minds the odds of achieving a port before sunset is about nil. You missed the clue! they added the name "EVE DUST514" to the art work before FF. what...the...ever...living...fu... look at the goddamn DUST 514 icon at the top left of every goddamn forum page. that has ALWAYS been the official designation of this bad game. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.

Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 14:57:00 - [11] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: This entire thread is a giant sh*tpost. We don't know what CCP is going to do, the timing says they've already made up their minds and there is nothing we can do to change it. Because if they haven't made up their minds the odds of achieving a port before sunset is about nil. You missed the clue! they added the name "EVE DUST514" to the art work before FF. what...the...ever...living...fu... look at the goddamn DUST 514 icon at the top left of every goddamn forum page. that has ALWAYS been the official designation of this bad game. Bad game? you want to be part of CPM? I know you want it to migrate to a WINTEL platform, but you need to come to terms with the financial realities, and it pretty clear on what network is best suited for micro-transactions. Using profanities is irrational. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.10 14:58:00 - [12] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: This entire thread is a giant sh*tpost. We don't know what CCP is going to do, the timing says they've already made up their minds and there is nothing we can do to change it. Because if they haven't made up their minds the odds of achieving a port before sunset is about nil. You missed the clue! they added the name "EVE DUST514" to the art work before FF. And that means? Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:02:00 - [13] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: This entire thread is a giant sh*tpost. We don't know what CCP is going to do, the timing says they've already made up their minds and there is nothing we can do to change it. Because if they haven't made up their minds the odds of achieving a port before sunset is about nil. You missed the clue! they added the name "EVE DUST514" to the art work before FF. And that means? Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:04:00 - [14] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Legion, as we understood it, was a project aimed as redesigning the New Eden FPS that was know of as DUST 514. The copywrite on Eve: Legion has lapsed, meaning that the project may not have been greenlit. More than likely this means CCP plans on porting Dust to either PS4 or PC. Since CCP Rouge has said as recently as Fanfest 2015 that GÇ£New Eden deserves a shooter on PCGÇ¥... I think we can guess where Dust will migrate to. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:06:00 - [15] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: This entire thread is a giant sh*tpost. We don't know what CCP is going to do, the timing says they've already made up their minds and there is nothing we can do to change it. Because if they haven't made up their minds the odds of achieving a port before sunset is about nil. You missed the clue! they added the name "EVE DUST514" to the art work before FF. And that means? Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Or they could have just carried the name over. The name "Project Legion" was dropped (no longer a project), and sony has no control over the name "Eve Dust 514" Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 4	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:07:00 - [16] - Quote Pretty dumb post, although I own a ps3 and ps4 the PC is undeniably the best system to play on "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:08:00 - [17] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Legion, as we understood it, was a project aimed as redesigning the New Eden FPS that was know of as DUST 514. The copywrite on Eve: Legion has lapsed, meaning that the project may not have been greenlit. More than likely this means CCP plans on porting Dust to either PS4 or PC. Since CCP Rouge has said as recently as Fanfest 2015 that he wants a New Eden FPS on PC... I think we can guess where Dust will migrate to. It's also been stated that there are no plans to go to PS4. Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 4	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:09:00 - [18] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Legion, as we understood it, was a project aimed as redesigning the New Eden FPS that was know of as DUST 514. The copywrite on Eve: Legion has lapsed, meaning that the project may not have been greenlit. More than likely this means CCP plans on porting Dust to either PS4 or PC. Since CCP Rouge has said as recently as Fanfest 2015 that he wants a New Eden FPS on PC... I think we can guess where Dust will migrate to. It's also been stated that there are no plans to go to PS4. Rattati told me he WANTS to though :/, a cross ps4 and pc Dust 514 might be quite difficult "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:10:00 - [19] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: sony has no control over the name "Eve Dust 514" It has been repeatedly stated that DUST was never an exclusive for Sony. They simply provided CCP more leeway within which they could work. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:11:00 - [20] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Pretty dumb post, although I own a ps3 and ps4 the PC is undeniably the best system to play on DUMB ? MONEY makes the "world go'round" Mordu's walking quafe mascot.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:11:00 - [21] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Legion, as we understood it, was a project aimed as redesigning the New Eden FPS that was know of as DUST 514. The copywrite on Eve: Legion has lapsed, meaning that the project may not have been greenlit. More than likely this means CCP plans on porting Dust to either PS4 or PC. Since CCP Rouge has said as recently as Fanfest 2015 that he wants a New Eden FPS on PC... I think we can guess where Dust will migrate to. It's also been stated that there are no plans to go to PS4. Rattati told me he WANTS to though :/, a cross ps4 and pc Dust 514 might be quite difficult consoles are functionally purpose-built PCs with odd operating systems nowadays. Compatibility is all defined by how they are translated with each other. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 4	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:13:00 - [22] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Legion, as we understood it, was a project aimed as redesigning the New Eden FPS that was know of as DUST 514. The copywrite on Eve: Legion has lapsed, meaning that the project may not have been greenlit. More than likely this means CCP plans on porting Dust to either PS4 or PC. Since CCP Rouge has said as recently as Fanfest 2015 that he wants a New Eden FPS on PC... I think we can guess where Dust will migrate to. It's also been stated that there are no plans to go to PS4. Rattati told me he WANTS to though :/, a cross ps4 and pc Dust 514 might be quite difficult consoles are functionally purpose-built PCs with odd operating systems nowadays. Compatibility is all defined by how they are translated with each other. Hopefully if it happens Sony is supportive and not iffy, they got some limiting policies. Steam should be cool "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 4	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:16:00 - [23] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Pretty dumb post, although I own a ps3 and ps4 the PC is undeniably the best system to play on DUMB ? MONEY makes the "world go'round" alright, what does that have to do with what console is better? "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:16:00 - [24] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Legion was cannibalized and the moneteriztion efforts plugged into DUST514. Legion, as we understood it, was a project aimed as redesigning the New Eden FPS that was know of as DUST 514. The copywrite on Eve: Legion has lapsed, meaning that the project may not have been greenlit. More than likely this means CCP plans on porting Dust to either PS4 or PC. Since CCP Rouge has said as recently as Fanfest 2015 that he wants a New Eden FPS on PC... I think we can guess where Dust will migrate to. It's also been stated that there are no plans to go to PS4. Rattati told me he WANTS to though :/, a cross ps4 and pc Dust 514 might be quite difficult consoles are functionally purpose-built PCs with odd operating systems nowadays. Compatibility is all defined by how they are translated with each other. PS4 is a PC with a BSD variant. BSD is a linux flavor, and linux is a UNIX variant. UNIX was created by Bell labs a long, long time ago, and UE4 has already been written for BSD othe PS4. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:17:00 - [25] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Hopefully if it happens Sony is supportive and not iffy, they got some limiting policies. Steam should be cool Planetside 2 exists on both console and PC, but as two separate worlds. I doubt CCP would want to split the population up between two servers like that. A combined PS4/PC server would give us a much larger population, but I worry about the KB/M and DS4 controller being at odds with each other. I suppose PS4 players could use a KB/M if they wanted to, I just don't see them doing it. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 4	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:20:00 - [26] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Hopefully if it happens Sony is supportive and not iffy, they got some limiting policies. Steam should be cool Planetside 2 exists on both console and PC, but as two separate worlds. I doubt CCP would want to split the population up between two servers like that. A combined PS4/PC server would give us a much larger population, but I worry about the KB/M and DS4 controller being at odds with each other. I suppose PS4 players could use a KB/M if they wanted to, I just don't see them doing it. I feel that, I would do a lot better with a kb/m in it. Wonder how they'll do this... "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 4	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:21:00 - [27] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: PS4 is a PC with a BSD variant. BSD is a linux flavor, and linux is a UNIX variant. UNIX was created by Bell labs a long, long time ago, and UE4 has already been written for BSD othe PS4. yet the PS4 is comparable to a low end PC "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:27:00 - [28] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Hopefully if it happens Sony is supportive and not iffy, they got some limiting policies. Steam should be cool Planetside 2 exists on both console and PC, but as two separate worlds. I doubt CCP would want to split the population up between two servers like that. A combined PS4/PC server would give us a much larger population, but I worry about the KB/M and DS4 controller being at odds with each other. I suppose PS4 players could use a KB/M if they wanted to, I just don't see them doing it. CCP has already committed to "splitting" as evidenced by PC/PS4 Valkyrie. I would refer to it as hedging or shorting on "future" gaming player derivatives. Most large dev's have committed to the consoles-CCP would have to be incompetent not to be aware of basic historical facts. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:33:00 - [29] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Omega Nox wrote: PS4 is a PC with a BSD variant. BSD is a linux flavor, and linux is a UNIX variant. UNIX was created by Bell labs a long, long time ago, and UE4 has already been written for BSD othe PS4. yet the PS4 is comparable to a low end PC With an O/S that is 100% optimized to do 1 thing- and that is play games. @1080 & 120mhz@60fps. AMD, who created the video chipset is optimizing SONY's VR headset for them. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 80	Posted - 2015.06.10 15:36:00 - [30] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Hopefully if it happens Sony is supportive and not iffy, they got some limiting policies. Steam should be cool Planetside 2 exists on both console and PC, but as two separate worlds. I doubt CCP would want to split the population up between two servers like that. A combined PS4/PC server would give us a much larger population, but I worry about the KB/M and DS4 controller being at odds with each other. I suppose PS4 players could use a KB/M if they wanted to, I just don't see them doing it. I feel that, I would do a lot better with a kb/m in it. Wonder how they'll do this... Peripherals ie kb/m are controlled by the game engine-Unreal 3 & 4, by way of the USB driver. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.



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