Steam supports: United States Dollars (USD), British Pounds (GBP), Russian Rubles (RUB), Brazilian Reais (BRL) or Euros (EUR) depending upon your location. Even if you don't live in one of those countries you can use PayPal.

It is a work around, sure.

CCP sells Eve through Steam and through their website. No reason why they can't do this with Dust 514 if the currency thing really is an issue.

Speaking of "an external step between you and the customer"... Sony/MS require all patches and updates to go through their own internal QA processes. This adds time between when CCP finishes a patch and when the patch finally hits our consoles. On Steam CCP releases a patch when they are done developing it. No middle men

Furthermore, test servers for Dust 514 are unlikely on Sony consoles. I believe this is due to the test servers requiring a second client download and Sony is not okay with that. On Steam users can download test clients or even beta patches pre-production release easily.

Plus, you know, consoles are inferior to PC gaming in other ways, but we will stick to the PSN vs. Steam argument for now.

This entire thread is a giant sh*tpost.

We don't know what CCP is going to do, the timing says they've already made up their minds and there is nothing we can do to change it. Because if they haven't made up their minds the odds of achieving a port before sunset is about nil.

what...the...ever...living...fu...

look at the goddamn DUST 514 icon at the top left of every goddamn forum page. that has ALWAYS been the official designation of this bad game.

And that means?

Pretty dumb post, although I own a ps3 and ps4 the PC is undeniably the best system to play on

consoles are functionally purpose-built PCs with odd operating systems nowadays. Compatibility is all defined by how they are translated with each other.

Planetside 2 exists on both console and PC, but as two separate worlds. I doubt CCP would want to split the population up between two servers like that. A combined PS4/PC server would give us a much larger population, but I worry about the KB/M and DS4 controller being at odds with each other. I suppose PS4 players could use a KB/M if they wanted to, I just don't see them doing it.

yet the PS4 is comparable to a low end PC

I feel that, I would do a lot better with a kb/m in it. Wonder how they'll do this...

Rattati is in charge of a game that was largely abandoned by CCP.

While he's doing a good job, Legion (or whatever they're calling it now) is outside of his control.

Already struggling with that. 900p and 720p in some recent games at 30fps

yet the PS4 is comparable to a low end PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj23pMdQBZ8&t=5s


Of course! The PS4's 1080p has a higher pixel ratio to screen count, that's just 1080p technology 101

I have a single GTX 970 running on a PC with a 6 year old budget AMD processor, and let me tell you I wish I spent that $3000 on a PS4, because if I use DSR to crank up the resolution past my monitors native 1920x1200 with all settings on very high, my FPS in GTAV almost drops down to 30 like the PS4 version. See, I have to make sacrifices, while the PS4 version is locked in at max settings for the PS4!

With AMD working so closely with Sony I'm sure that they will succeed in optimizing the Project Morpheus VR experience above and beyond the solid 90 frames per second at 2160x1200 resolution required by the HTC Vive and Oculus Rift, something that will be made easy with the PS4s advanced gaming optimized operating system oh god i can't keep going im dying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj23pMdQBZ8&t=5s


Of course! The PS4's 1080p has a higher pixel ratio to screen count, that's just 1080p technology 101

I have a single GTX 970 running on a PC with a 6 year old budget AMD processor, and let me tell you I wish I spent that $3000 on a PS4, because if I use DSR to crank up the resolution past my monitors native 1920x1200 with all settings on very high, my FPS in GTAV almost drops down to 30 like the PS4 version. See, I have to make sacrifices, while the PS4 version is locked in at max settings for the PS4!

With AMD working so closely with Sony I'm sure that they will succeed in optimizing the Project Morpheus VR experience above and beyond the solid 90 frames per second at 2160x1200 resolution required by the HTC Vive and Oculus Rift, something that will be made easy with the PS4s advanced gaming optimized operating system oh god i can't keep going im dying

You don't need $3k to destroy a PS4's hardware stats. Hell, you need roughly $450 to build a PC to surpass the current gen consoles.

And lol @ the indy game comment PCs play games from indy to AAA and you know it. Consoles get a handful of exclusives, and with the exception of certain Nintendo titles and franchise flagship mascot titles (e.g God of War for Sony), many of those exclusives one day end up on PC as legit ports.

Or you can just download an emulator in a year or so when the PS4 is LONG since obsolete and play PS3/4 games on it

You don't need $3k to destroy a PS4's hardware stats. Hell, you need roughly $450 to build a PC to surpass the current gen consoles.

And lol @ the indy game comment PCs play games from indy to AAA and you know it. Consoles get a handful of exclusives, and with the exception of certain Nintendo titles and franchise flagship mascot titles (e.g God of War for Sony), many of those exclusives one day end up on PC as legit ports.

Or you can just download an emulator in a year or so when the PS4 is LONG since obsolete and play PS3/4 games on it

GOTY is pretty vague. Any company's GOTY? GameSpot 2010, StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty

yeah man i cringe every time i think about it what a waste of money, i could be running a ps4 at 4kk resomolution right now, with a 250mbps comcast extreme internet connection for high definition gaming, instead i tried to build my own computer (ended up costing me twice as much cash as just buying from alienware) and it was obsolete like a month later, I'll need to upgrade again to play the PC port of the next COD

I mean goat simulator is pretty cool and I guess there are indie games like Star Citizen and Elite but it sucks not being able to play the latest AAAA games like The Cinematic 1886 and Dark Souls Werewolf Edition

And I can barely even afford games after all the money i spent on the computer, you can't really buy them used for pc like you can at gamestop with the PS4, i mean steam is running a sale starting tomorrow for the next couple of weeks which is ok sometimes games are like 5% off but still not as nice as being able to pay only $54.99 for a used game at gamestop with a pro rewards membership

Omega... It might help if you read Shooter's posts with heavy level of sarcasm lol

That step is also a layer of protection for you.

Lets say Steam got hacked and ripped off,,they dont have your bank information. They might get paypal,,,but that is pretty well protected.

It serves as a layer of security.

Thanks for proving that point for me.

Are we really basing a platform's worthiness on how many GOTY it boasts?

Look, take a minute to skim this when you have a few minutes. It's lengthy, but it explains why PC gaming is the better gaming platform thoroughly and cites its sources. It does so better than I can, I'm sure.

This isn't a cop out. I'm just tired of rehashing this with every dedicated console gamer out there

GOTY is pretty vague. Any company's GOTY? GameSpot 2010, StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty

I don't mind spirited debates, but if this discussion devolves to personal jabs then I'm out.

750 ti in sli

you sure about that buddy

750 ti in sli

you sure about that buddy

I will summarize everything you just said "I like ps4 better than the PC therefore it has to be better because I said so"

ok, now I'm starting to understand you


You've got two nearly 5 year old gpus with the overhead of SLI and barely over 1gb of vram, playing two of the most vram guzzling games in recent pc history. From your perspective those games WOULD seem to run as well or better on the PS4. GTAV will even lock you out of raising many of the settings by default.

I'm sorry, when I saw your "1080p@120mhz" and "PS4 is comparable to my dual SLI i7", I thought you were another one of those "I have/have a friend with tri-SLI GTX Titan X on a 4790 but PS4 is better graphics!" posers, running their mouth off about hardware they don't understand, and that's when I decided it would be fun to shitpost. Well, you still kind of are but MOVING ON

Games these days are finally starting to use more vram. Modern video cards, even many of the budget cards like the 750ti, have 2gb of vram at the minimum, and 2gb of vram is starting to become the minimum requirement of newer games. As you should know, GPUs are the single fastest depreciating piece of hardware in PCs and consoles. Every generation's "mid range" cards equal or outperform last generation's "high end" card.

Of course, the problem is so much worse with consoles, cause you can't just plug in a new mid-range GPU in a few years. No, you need an entire new console for that. Meanwhile, mainstream video cards are soon going to be rolling out with 8GB of high bandwidth memory that makes GDDR5 look like a joke, in addition to the separate 8+gb of the lower latency DDR3/4 RAM the CPU uses. Every year that passes, the consoles will be left further and further behind by cheap PC parts.

The PS4 was mediocre when it was brand new. "In engine" E3 trailers rendered on PCs end up looking nothing like the final game on consoles, developers desperately try to pretend that 30 FPS is an "artistic choice". It's going to be interesting seeing how many corners will have to be cut in a game to get it to run at the framerates required by VR.

Welp, I tried

You saw it everybody

I tried to be a good poster

for an entire post

it wasn't worth it

"I never said the console was better than the pc"

Don't you lie to me,*******

Oh, I stand corrected

So, I suppose you do have two of the newer 750 Ti in SLI like you said at first, since, as you say, you can't SLI non-ti cards?