DUST Search - The Diaries of a Noobie Tanker

Everything Dies wrote:

Azel Xerath wrote:

I got on today to play a few matches, but I'm at an absolute loss.

I got destroyed so easily. Unmanned Installations shot at me from a ridiculous distance, and there was seemingly nothing I could do about it. Lord knows I didn't have the firepower to destroy them myself, so I had to resign to staying as far away from them as I could. The problem with this though is that THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. There is no escaping them.

Then there were the AVers. Oh Lord, I've never been so frustrated over a lack of game balance. I know that the top Tanks cna cost around 1 million ISK. Why is it then that AV is dirt-cheap in comparison? Any regular Joe can pull out AV and turn me into scrap metal. What particularly annoyed me was the AV Grenades. They destroyed my so called 'Tank' in 3 seconds flat.I had no time to escape, and even my Modules were useless. WHAT USE IS A TANK THAT CAN'T ACTUALLY ENGAGE INFANTRY?!?!

I'm finding it incredibly hard to make a profit, even by running Militia Tanks. All I have remaining is 3 Somas and 907 ISK. I don't know what I can do: I'm at my wits end.

Where am I to go from here? Sad

Don't even bother with militia tanks--you need to invest quite a bit of SP into tanking if you're going to survive for long. You'll need a minimum of one armor hardener, one armor plate and two reppers if you're running armor tanks (for anti-tank battles, you may want to go with two hardeners instead of one and a plate.) For shield tanks, you'll want to stick to missile or rail turrets as blasters will eat you alive.

In fact, my best advice would be to equip a rail tank and stick to the outskirts of the maps until you get a sense of where the turrets are and which ones can be avoided, in addition to looking out for enemy tanks that you might be able to get the drop on. Don't forget to tag along with any friendly tanks that you may come across--even an experienced tanker will hesitate to engage two militia tanks at the same time.

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Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 19:39:00 - [1] - Quote Hi! I've only recently started playing DUST 514, but I've decided that I want to become a dedicated Tanker. Seeing the Tankers that could be feared and unopposed across the entire battlefield inspired me, and I want to follow in their footsteps. However, I quickly realised that it wouldn't be as easy as I imagined it would be. Writing is my passion, and I think I could entertain quite a few people by detailing my progress from a noobie Militia Tanker to a monstrous force of destruction. I'll try to update this thread every time I play, though that may not be everyday. Regardless, I promise to try my best to shed some light on the role for those of you not so acquainted with it whilst simultaneously providing reprieve from boredom. I hope you're as excited as I am!
Jack Boost Zarena Family 832	Posted - 2015.06.06 19:44:00 - [2] - Quote Yes. Not much time left...
Loyal Glasses G.L.O.R.Y 63	Posted - 2015.06.06 21:29:00 - [3] - Quote Good luck friend! We need more Anti- Tank Tanks Glasses of the Loyal Variety > "The dead are notoriously unproductive "
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2015.06.06 22:33:00 - [4] - Quote I got on today to play a few matches, but I'm at an absolute loss. I got destroyed so easily. Unmanned Installations shot at me from a ridiculous distance, and there was seemingly nothing I could do about it. Lord knows I didn't have the firepower to destroy them myself, so I had to resign to staying as far away from them as I could. The problem with this though is that THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. There is no escaping them. Then there were the AVers. Oh Lord, I've never been so frustrated over a lack of game balance. I know that the top Tanks cna cost around 1 million ISK. Why is it then that AV is dirt-cheap in comparison? Any regular Joe can pull out AV and turn me into scrap metal. What particularly annoyed me was the AV Grenades. They destroyed my so called 'Tank' in 3 seconds flat.I had no time to escape, and even my Modules were useless. WHAT USE IS A TANK THAT CAN'T ACTUALLY ENGAGE INFANTRY?!?! I'm finding it incredibly hard to make a profit, even by running Militia Tanks. All I have remaining is 3 Somas and 907 ISK. I don't know what I can do: I'm at my wits end. Where am I to go from here?
Everything Dies Alison Brie's Heaving Chest of Love 1	Posted - 2015.06.06 22:45:00 - [5] - Quote Azel Xerath wrote: I got on today to play a few matches, but I'm at an absolute loss. I got destroyed so easily. Unmanned Installations shot at me from a ridiculous distance, and there was seemingly nothing I could do about it. Lord knows I didn't have the firepower to destroy them myself, so I had to resign to staying as far away from them as I could. The problem with this though is that THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. There is no escaping them. Then there were the AVers. Oh Lord, I've never been so frustrated over a lack of game balance. I know that the top Tanks cna cost around 1 million ISK. Why is it then that AV is dirt-cheap in comparison? Any regular Joe can pull out AV and turn me into scrap metal. What particularly annoyed me was the AV Grenades. They destroyed my so called 'Tank' in 3 seconds flat.I had no time to escape, and even my Modules were useless. WHAT USE IS A TANK THAT CAN'T ACTUALLY ENGAGE INFANTRY?!?! I'm finding it incredibly hard to make a profit, even by running Militia Tanks. All I have remaining is 3 Somas and 907 ISK. I don't know what I can do: I'm at my wits end. Where am I to go from here? Don't even bother with militia tanks--you need to invest quite a bit of SP into tanking if you're going to survive for long. You'll need a minimum of one armor hardener, one armor plate and two reppers if you're running armor tanks (for anti-tank battles, you may want to go with two hardeners instead of one and a plate.) For shield tanks, you'll want to stick to missile or rail turrets as blasters will eat you alive. In fact, my best advice would be to equip a rail tank and stick to the outskirts of the maps until you get a sense of where the turrets are and which ones can be avoided, in addition to looking out for enemy tanks that you might be able to get the drop on. Don't forget to tag along with any friendly tanks that you may come across--even an experienced tanker will hesitate to engage two militia tanks at the same time. Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2015.06.06 22:57:00 - [6] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Azel Xerath wrote: I got on today to play a few matches, but I'm at an absolute loss. I got destroyed so easily. Unmanned Installations shot at me from a ridiculous distance, and there was seemingly nothing I could do about it. Lord knows I didn't have the firepower to destroy them myself, so I had to resign to staying as far away from them as I could. The problem with this though is that THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. There is no escaping them. Then there were the AVers. Oh Lord, I've never been so frustrated over a lack of game balance. I know that the top Tanks cna cost around 1 million ISK. Why is it then that AV is dirt-cheap in comparison? Any regular Joe can pull out AV and turn me into scrap metal. What particularly annoyed me was the AV Grenades. They destroyed my so called 'Tank' in 3 seconds flat.I had no time to escape, and even my Modules were useless. WHAT USE IS A TANK THAT CAN'T ACTUALLY ENGAGE INFANTRY?!?! I'm finding it incredibly hard to make a profit, even by running Militia Tanks. All I have remaining is 3 Somas and 907 ISK. I don't know what I can do: I'm at my wits end. Where am I to go from here? Don't even bother with militia tanks--you need to invest quite a bit of SP into tanking if you're going to survive for long. You'll need a minimum of one armor hardener, one armor plate and two reppers if you're running armor tanks (for anti-tank battles, you may want to go with two hardeners instead of one and a plate.) For shield tanks, you'll want to stick to missile or rail turrets as blasters will eat you alive. In fact, my best advice would be to equip a rail tank and stick to the outskirts of the maps until you get a sense of where the turrets are and which ones can be avoided, in addition to looking out for enemy tanks that you might be able to get the drop on. Don't forget to tag along with any friendly tanks that you may come across--even an experienced tanker will hesitate to engage two militia tanks at the same time. So far, all I can use are Militia Tanks. I've been running a Heavy Armour Repairer, a 60MM Armour Plate and an Armour Hardener (all Militia). Is it possible to destroy Installations with Blasters? Or should I be trying to avoid them instead? It just seems like there's nowhere I can go that's safe. I would try Rail Tanks, but at the moment I'm so poor that I can't even buy one!
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2015.06.06 23:30:00 - [7] - Quote I was able to buy two Railgun Tanks and I managed to destroy two other Tanks with them. It just seems pointless though, and I don't feel like I'm helping my team at all by running a Railgun. The reason why is because all of the Tanks that I destroyed were also running Railguns. So we were both running AV for each other, so it just became pointless, and neither of us were killing infantry or helping at all. It's so frustrating. Nobody is willing to squad with a new player like me, and I'VE LOST 9 MATCHES IN A ROW. It seems like I'll never be able to improve.
Radiant Pancake3 Y.A.M.A.H No Context 104	Posted - 2015.06.06 23:46:00 - [8] - Quote Azel Xerath wrote: I was able to buy two Railgun Tanks and I managed to destroy two other Tanks with them. It just seems pointless though, and I don't feel like I'm helping my team at all by running a Railgun. The reason why is because all of the Tanks that I destroyed were also running Railguns. So we were both running AV for each other, so it just became pointless, and neither of us were killing infantry or helping at all. It's so frustrating. Nobody is willing to squad with a new player like me, and I'VE LOST 9 MATCHES IN A ROW. It seems like I'll never be able to improve. All you have to do is beweave and listen to the tank god Tankou! :3 Meow. I am the Clown of Ass or am I the Ass of Clown... o.O Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Minmatar Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 574	Posted - 2015.06.06 23:55:00 - [9] - Quote Tip- I am not to good of a tanker, but I will tell you to limit your isk use. Start cheap. Only blaster and armor mods. Nothing Else. Get used to dying. Then slowly add mods that will improve your experience. Keep going and going till you have pro tanks. Btw, do you have a corp? Join mine. 48SOF. 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2015.06.07 00:45:00 - [10] - Quote Is it a practical option to initially call in a Railgun Tank to destroy Installations, then if there are no other red vehicles on the field, swap to a Blaster Tank?

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.07 00:49:00 - [11] - Quote Assuming this is legit? I plan on being on in the mornings pacific standard probably around tuesday. Best way to learn how to avoid your enemy is to learn how to act like him. I'll take you on an AV tour. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2015.06.07 01:01:00 - [12] - Quote I'm seriously considering just giving up and quitting this game. Absolutely nobody is willing to squad with a new player; not even in the Learning Coalition. It's just so frustrating. How am I supposed to do anything when there are other players who have infinitely better Tanks than I do??? It's not fun, and it's not good for the NPE. If anything is to save this obviously dying game, it's tiericide.
Diablo Gamekeeper Escrow Removal and Acquisition No Context 395	Posted - 2015.06.07 01:05:00 - [13] - Quote Who else thinks this guy is an alt? I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
jane stalin free dropships for newbs 314	Posted - 2015.06.07 01:14:00 - [14] - Quote Azel Xerath wrote: Is it a practical option to initially call in a Railgun Tank to destroy Installations, then if there are no other red vehicles on the field, swap to a Blaster Tank? I don't know , I sent you a million ISK so you could give it a try, I find it problematic to use tanks, maybe get some av yourself so you can attack tanks that gank you.
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2015.06.07 01:36:00 - [15] - Quote jane stalin wrote: Azel Xerath wrote: Is it a practical option to initially call in a Railgun Tank to destroy Installations, then if there are no other red vehicles on the field, swap to a Blaster Tank? I don't know , I sent you a million ISK so you could give it a try, I find it problematic to use tanks, maybe get some av yourself so you can attack tanks that gank you. Thank you so much! At the moment, I have 0 SP invested in infantry though.
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2015.06.07 01:48:00 - [16] - Quote I lose every single match. How can that be?!?! How can just my mere presence on the team as a Tanker cause my ENTIRE team to lose?!?! Am I supposed to carry all of them??? Am I the pivotal player that the matchmaking balances the teams around? I've been playing DUST for 2 DAYS. This is just ridiculous. I think that being a Tanker is a detriment to my team.
Ace Ravager Horizons' Edge No Context 67	Posted - 2015.06.07 01:57:00 - [17] - Quote Azel Xerath wrote: I lose every single match. How can that be?!?! How can just my mere presence on the team as a Tanker cause my ENTIRE team to lose?!?! Am I supposed to carry all of them??? Am I the pivotal player that the matchmaking balances the teams around? I've been playing DUST for 2 DAYS. This is just ridiculous. I think that being a Tanker is a detriment to my team. Try joining my corp, they can help you out and give you tips on being a better tanker. Though you never see me using tank try joining up with other tankers, try and support you teamates and they will help you by doing things like hacking installations Come here for someOfficer Stuff
Balts Xryiel Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 8	Posted - 2015.06.07 02:43:00 - [18] - Quote To be honest i not a tanker and i havent even have the skill for it, i suggest you play as an AV for a while so you can get the gist on how to avoid one when playing back as a Tanker. You'll be suprise on how well place shot on a tank can do -One does not just RE a Heavy-
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2015.06.07 02:45:00 - [19] - Quote Ace Ravager wrote: Azel Xerath wrote: I lose every single match. How can that be?!?! How can just my mere presence on the team as a Tanker cause my ENTIRE team to lose?!?! Am I supposed to carry all of them??? Am I the pivotal player that the matchmaking balances the teams around? I've been playing DUST for 2 DAYS. This is just ridiculous. I think that being a Tanker is a detriment to my team. Try joining my corp, they can help you out and give you tips on being a better tanker. Though you never see me using tank try joining up with other tankers, try and support you teamates and they will help you by doing things like hacking installations Funnily enough, I already sent in an app to your corp.
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 174	Posted - 2015.06.07 03:06:00 - [20] - Quote Azel Xerath wrote: I'm seriously considering just giving up and quitting this game. Absolutely nobody is willing to squad with a new player; not even in the Learning Coalition. It's just so frustrating. How am I supposed to do anything when there are other players who have infinitely better Tanks than I do??? It's not fun, and it's not good for the NPE. If anything is to save this obviously dying game, it's tiericide. I'll squad with ya. Message me in game. I'm on every night grinding SP. we can grind together!!! Lately I've been running in a 5-man squad of just infantry. You'd be a welcome addition to the group and my corp. CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers

Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.07 03:21:00 - [21] - Quote I hate to say it, but until you have maxed out all your vehicles core skills, proficiency included, there's no point running your own tank... What you need is someone willing to call in 'decent' tanks for you, just until, well a year or so, lol. Fact is, everyone whined about vehicles, so they made Proto AV more balanced against proto vehicles, but without looking at cost... So now just about everyone goes straight to proto AV, which is still cheaper than the cheapest "usable" tank. AV grenades being the most laughable thing (ignoring the buggy swarms) as you can fit them on just about anything, without even thinking about cost. I'm not saying AV should be as expensive as a tank... But come on, there needs to be something to make people think twice about pulling protato every time they see a Sica, lol.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.07 04:05:00 - [22] - Quote Azel Xerath wrote: I'm seriously considering just giving up and quitting this game. Absolutely nobody is willing to squad with a new player; not even in the Learning Coalition. It's just so frustrating. How am I supposed to do anything when there are other players who have infinitely better Tanks than I do??? It's not fun, and it's not good for the NPE. If anything is to save this obviously dying game, it's tiericide. Please mail me in game, I've still got some SP left in tanks, though the current state of vehicle/av balance, and vehicle 'design' has prettymuch killed the 'vehicle' community. I'd be happy to help you with stuff, but unfortunately squadding with me would be likely to drag you into the '*****' bracket, where things are even worse. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Michael-J-Fox Richards Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 381	Posted - 2015.06.07 05:17:00 - [23] - Quote dont even bother using vehicles until you max out literally every single vehicle skill alts are for sissies. too legit, too legit to quit.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.07 07:24:00 - [24] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Azel Xerath wrote: I'm seriously considering just giving up and quitting this game. Absolutely nobody is willing to squad with a new player; not even in the Learning Coalition. It's just so frustrating. How am I supposed to do anything when there are other players who have infinitely better Tanks than I do??? It's not fun, and it's not good for the NPE. If anything is to save this obviously dying game, it's tiericide. Please mail me in game, I've still got some SP left in tanks, though the current state of vehicle/av balance, and vehicle 'design' has prettymuch killed the 'vehicle' community. I'd be happy to help you with stuff, but unfortunately squadding with me would be likely to drag you into the '*******' bracket, where things are even worse. Same here as I think I clashed with you sometime earlier today. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.06.07 07:58:00 - [25] - Quote Diary of a tanker in a nutshell Day 1 Pretty good day got 81 mil in my wallet, lets see how it goes... Day 2 Killed a few pro tanks 40 mil in wallet Day 3 Broke, too much av everywhere SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 576	Posted - 2015.06.07 15:59:00 - [26] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Diary of a tanker in a nutshell Day 1 Pretty good day got 81 mil in my wallet, lets see how it goes... Day 2 Killed a few pro tanks 40 mil in wallet Day 3 Broke, too much av everywhere That's LITTERALY me right now. Before tanks got changed, I had this OP soma. I remember this one match were I destroyed 5 tanks with it. Then the tanks were changed. Pulled one out and got shredded. Skilled into them and right now I'm broke, still experimenting with fittings and stuff. 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2015.06.07 16:21:00 - [27] - Quote Things have been going a bit better for me today, mainly because I've been running Madrugar G-1s, but I have to be double-Hardened to even be able to do anything. Installations are still a big problem for me. Most of my time in a match is spent o trying to destroy them. I've developed a deep hatred towards any blueberries who hack the Installation just before I get to destroy it. I also realised that neutral Installations don't fire back. I'll have to try to make sure to seize the opportunity at the beginning of the match to destroy as many as I can. I should be able to unlock Enhanced Armour Mods by the end of today, so hopefully the endless downtime I have to wait between activating Mods will feel a little shorter... I've also accidentally activated the wrong Mod at the wrong time, and I've suffered greatly for it.
Azel Xerath Bragian Order Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2015.06.07 17:19:00 - [28] - Quote This is just so stupid. I'm in a match where our team is completely redlined. We have 16 clones left, compared to their 127. That's not all though: they're also using Officer AV. How am I expected to be able to cope with this? It's ridiculous.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 799	Posted - 2015.06.07 18:07:00 - [29] - Quote Azel Xerath wrote: I got on today to play a few matches, but I'm at an absolute loss. I got destroyed so easily. Unmanned Installations shot at me from a ridiculous distance, and there was seemingly nothing I could do about it. Lord knows I didn't have the firepower to destroy them myself, so I had to resign to staying as far away from them as I could. The problem with this though was that THEY WERE EVERYWHERE. There was no escaping them. Then there were the AVers. Oh Lord, I've never been so frustrated over a lack of game balance. I know that the top Tanks can cost around 1 million ISK. Why is it then that AV is dirt-cheap in comparison? Any regular Joe can pull out AV and turn me into scrap metal. What particularly annoyed me was the AV Grenades. They destroyed my so called 'Tank' in 3 seconds flat.I had no time to escape, and even my Modules were useless. WHAT USE IS A TANK THAT CAN'T ACTUALLY ENGAGE INFANTRY?!?! I'm finding it incredibly hard to make a profit, even by running Militia Tanks. All I have remaining is 3 Somas and 907 ISK. I don't know what I can do: I'm at my wits end. Where am I to go from here? Lol, I looked at the OP and knew this was coming. Haven't you heard? Tanks suck. The TANKOPHOBES have nade sure of it. I run a standard tank with standard turrets. You can have more fun if you primarily worry about infantry assists with mCRU and scanner. I run a missile Gunnlogi and yes you can get infantry kills with practice. The best thing missiles do is allow area of denial suppression fire. I kill tanks only as I see an opening from a distance. I check for tanks on map and as I move forward and try to move in only when I can keep a tank to my front and I am reasonably sure there are no tanks close by that can get me from behind. I roll in, pop hardeners and do a little dance then roll out. Otherwise, I shoot tanks from afar with standard missiles and most times it destroys them. Because they don't have their hardeners up. I am looking for more folks to run tank teams and crews with. Message me. The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.07 21:14:00 - [30] - Quote Azel Xerath wrote: Installations are still a big problem for me. Most of my time in a match is spent o trying to destroy them. I've developed a deep hatred towards any blueberries who hack the Installation just before I get to destroy it. I also realised that neutral Installations don't fire back. I'll have to try to make sure to seize the opportunity at the beginning of the match to destroy as many as I can. First of all... Don't kill your turrets unless you have to... In the (rare) event your team actually does something, you can make good use of these turrets... In an ideal world, defending these installations from other tanks/AV/enemy installations is part of a tankers job. Sitting by a blue blaster turret can be quite amusing, enemy tanks will have to keep their distance, or deal with 2 rounds of fire... Also when a swamer shoots at you, just just drive up to the turret and make their missiles poke it... Then they're running for their lives form the big nasty installation, lol. For destroying enemy installations, try a double/tripple damage modded rail... Just sneak around the outside of the map, but be careful with the rail installations, blap them a few times, then make sure to get behind cover for a moment, cool down your turret and finish it off. You might want a heat sync on it too. Failing that, get yourself some remote explosives and strap them to the front of a cheap LAV... Get up to the turret before it fires at you and... BOOM! Azel Xerath wrote: This is just so stupid. I'm in a match where our team is completely redlined. We have 16 clones left, compared to their 127. That's not all though: they're also using Officer AV. How am I expected to be able to cope with this? It's ridiculous. If your team isn't doing their job, don't try and do yours. When you're the only guy out of the redzone, everyone on the other team will pull AV... Even if you're just dossing about with an LAV, lol. Quit the match, or do something else... Sneaking about in a starter fit tends to be amusing... Hack all the crap at the other end of the map.



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