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Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 159	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:03:00 - [1] - Quote Props to Leither and Ripley Riley for this I know this has probably been discussed here, but GD, give me you knee jerk reactions when you hear, "What if DUST 514 offered players to pay for a subscription, but also allowed them to continue to play for free if they choose to?" Give me your knee jerk reaction, pros, cons, benefits of having a sub, and discuss! Potential sub price? Same as EVE Online & Planetside 2 @ $15 USD a month? Discuss! :D I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:07:00 - [2] - Quote I wouldn't pay to play for such a game. The only reason I played eve was because of lore and it was 10yrs of balancing that already happened. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 159	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:09:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: I wouldn't pay to play for such a game. The only reason I played eve was because of lore and it was 10yrs of balancing that already happened. Fair enough. What if the major kinks were worked out? I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:32:00 - [4] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I wouldn't pay to play for such a game. The only reason I played eve was because of lore and it was 10yrs of balancing that already happened. Fair enough. What if the major kinks were worked out? If racial parity was achieved along with ever developing lore then yes. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:38:00 - [5] - Quote I think DUST would have been better if it had never been F2P in the first place. It would have become something most of us would be willing to pay for. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:39:00 - [6] - Quote I would not care. So long as the free-to-play model with subscription does not emulate, say, Runescape, where important gameplay-things are locked behind subscription fees, then have at it. Discounts, exclusive skins, or other subscription incentives would be fine by me. So long as they remain outside the realm of important gameplay functions. However, I doubt CCP could make subscription appealing enough under those circumstances. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 159	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:43:00 - [7] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: I would not care. So long as the free-to-play model with subscription does not emulate, say, Runescape, where important gameplay-things are locked behind subscription fees, then have at it. Discounts, exclusive skins, or other subscription incentives would be fine by me. So long as they remain outside the realm of important gameplay functions. However, I doubt CCP could make subscription appealing enough under those circumstances. But then with things like, "exclusive skins, or other subscription incentives" do you think it becomes "classist", to use Leither's words? "You're either a member of the paying class or not. Here's a badge recognizing you as a full citizen of Rome who can vote." How do you think other players mayr espond to this? I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 159	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:44:00 - [8] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I think DUST would have been better if it had never been F2P in the first place. It would have become something most of us would be willing to pay for. Go on...elaborate. I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 159	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:45:00 - [9] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Aiwha Bait wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I wouldn't pay to play for such a game. The only reason I played eve was because of lore and it was 10yrs of balancing that already happened. Fair enough. What if the major kinks were worked out? If racial parity was achieved along with ever developing lore then yes. Interesting. Anything else? I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:47:00 - [10] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I think DUST would have been better if it had never been F2P in the first place. It would have become something most of us would be willing to pay for. The incompetence of the old Dev team was the down fall of the game not the players. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:48:00 - [11] - Quote I would 100% support an optional subscription if it provided benefit that would cost more if I purchased it a la carte. Constant SP Boosters Constant LP Boosters A small lump of AUR to play around with ect. ect. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 160	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:49:00 - [12] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I would 100% support an optional subscription if it provided benefit that would cost more if I purchased it a la carte. Constant SP Boosters Constant LP Boosters A small lump of AUR to play around with ect. ect. How much is "a small lump of AUR"? I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:55:00 - [13] - Quote I would rather shove myself a cactus up my arse and run down the street then having to subscribe to this game. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy 1	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:55:00 - [14] - Quote Haha, pay a subscription to wait 10 minutes for a battle you'll get disconnected from? **** no. Director - Corrosive Synergy
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:55:00 - [15] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Aiwha Bait wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I wouldn't pay to play for such a game. The only reason I played eve was because of lore and it was 10yrs of balancing that already happened. Fair enough. What if the major kinks were worked out? If racial parity was achieved along with ever developing lore then yes. That's all I want...how did they think it was okay to call the game "released" and the content we should have had from the beginning wasn't even out yet? Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
Vicious Minotaur 2	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:01:00 - [16] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: blah blah blah, I'm a Minotaur, blah blah But then with things like, "exclusive skins, or other subscription incentives" do you think it becomes "classist", to use Leither's words? "You're either a member of the paying class or not. Here's a badge recognizing you as a full citizen of Rome who can vote." How do you think other players mayr espond to this? Indeed. There would be three "classes" so to speak. You have the "upper class" subscribers, "middle class" people who pay but don't subscribe, and the "lower class" who are free-to-play. The interactions among the three classes would probably include whining and disparaging remarks. Nothing we haven't seen. I doubt most players would respond in any way other than with discourse, civil or otherwise. If subscription were to cause some to react in more severe ways (quitting, getting a Sony refund, cease buying AUR, etc) then I'd say the reasons for that are more do to other underlying reasons and displeasure with the game (lack of racial parity, bad matchmaking, etc). I would think these cases would be outliers. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:03:00 - [17] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I would 100% support an optional subscription if it provided benefit that would cost more if I purchased it a la carte. Constant SP Boosters Constant LP Boosters A small lump of AUR to play around with ect. ect. How much is "a small lump of AUR"? Depends entirely on the price of the package. 30 day Booster is like $7 right? So if you have Active and Passive running that's about $14 a month. Give me like $10 in AUR to play with and I'd probably drop $15 a month on that. Though I had to say I'd like to have Active Boosters changed around a bit....I dont like paying for timed active generation like that. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:05:00 - [18] - Quote On a ps4 sure..on this hunkajunk PS3 hell no Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:06:00 - [19] - Quote SKINs sales for subscribers; 25 - 50% off certain SKINs for a week or something. I'm all for it. I would happily sub. CCP would benefit from a better method to make a profit from this game beside the AURbarge . Heimdallr69 wrote: On a ps4 sure..on this hunkajunk PS3 hell no Also, this... @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 656	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:11:00 - [20] - Quote I think the whole game should be a paid game. In theory, all the bugs would be taken care of, racial parity would be complete, c'mon Caldari shotgun. We'd get new maps, that work. New game modes. I think there was recently a thread about what would you like to see in dust. I think I wrote about three paragraphs, or something. The lore? Oh, hell yeah. Of course I dislike the Gallente, because I'm Caldari. But this is part of the lore. I also really admire the Ammar, and I love the explosive weapon tech of the Min! Long story short, if there were some kind of subscription, then the game would have the funding to get better, perhaps faster? And not die, something we're all thinking in the back of our heads Shields, the silent killer.

Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 160	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:18:00 - [21] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: SKINs sales for subscribers; 25 - 50% off certain SKINs for a week or something. I'm all for it. I would happily sub. CCP would benefit from a better method to make a profit from this game beside the AURbarge . Heimdallr69 wrote: On a ps4 sure..on this hunkajunk PS3 hell no Also, this... Is a very real problem. We need to get this game on a platform that players have less problem spending money on. You would sub just for SKIN sales? :P Anything else that might incentivize you to subscribe? I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:24:00 - [22] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: You would sub just for SKIN sales? :P Anything else that might incentivize you to subscribe? Those built in boosters mentioned above would tempt me. Perhaps X free keys every month. To integrate with the existing warbarge monetization; subbers' component factories are 50% more efficient. @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 160	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:41:00 - [23] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Aiwha Bait wrote: You would sub just for SKIN sales? :P Anything else that might incentivize you to subscribe? Those built in boosters mentioned above would tempt me. Perhaps X free keys every month. To integrate with the existing warbarge monetization; subbers' component factories are 50% more efficient. I could get behind that, I suppose. If the Experimental Facility produced an extra weapon/suit on top of what you get from your Warbarge level. That'd be nice. I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:46:00 - [24] - Quote This will be a question when Dust crosses to its next platform as well: Keep F2P, or go subscription I think F2P is still the way to go. - Dust is currently profiting - CCP has shown they are able to not take advantage of it (Pay to win) - I don't feel like I'm being ripped off. Any EA shooter would cost you over $100 right off the bat with mandatory DLC and such, and they also cut every penny possible le to provide you with as little content as possible - Dust needs players. F2P is the best way to grab a large amount of players in a short time. - It's nice to not be punished for taking a break from playing. - If Dust/Legion becomes more successful on the next platform it will likely draw more players into EVE anyways. !--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 160	Posted - 2015.05.31 05:49:00 - [25] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: This will be a question when Dust crosses to its next platform as well: Keep F2P, or go subscription I would say drop the subscription idea all together. Either keep it F2P (you make some fine points about that), or make me pay $20 or $30 one to have the game forever, and keep microtransaction in the game. >inb4 Assassins Creed: Unity had microtransactions. Look how people enjoyed that. F*ck that. I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 1	Posted - 2015.05.31 06:25:00 - [26] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I would 100% support an optional subscription if it provided benefit that would cost more if I purchased it a la carte. Constant SP Boosters Constant LP Boosters A small lump of AUR to play around with ect. ect. I like this maybe even give subscribers the ability to give an alt on your account passive SP so you can have two toons with passive Give me my Plasma Flamethrower or give me a cookie!
I-Shayz-I I----------I 5	Posted - 2015.05.31 06:32:00 - [27] - Quote You mean like the 'gold member' subscription they offered a while back? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FxpY7YfWBs Check out that 'orbital bombardment' ship! 7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6	Posted - 2015.05.31 07:42:00 - [28] - Quote Actually the SKIN idea is pretty legit too since it has little benefit in actual gameplay but is also a nice benefit for people who are willing to pay for it. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Yokal Bob Dead Man's Game 883	Posted - 2015.05.31 07:59:00 - [29] - Quote No need for a subscription as the game has become very limited to the majority of the playerbase. Boosters? and put the SP where? Skins? a novelty thats as good as putting a chicken on my head. AUR? meh, still novelty at this point. To make a sub worthwhile, an total server reset would have to be done in terms of SP, ISK, inventory and PC etc. There would have to be more things for us to skill into. In my opinion it would only be worthwhile doing for the PS4. Vote Dust for PS4
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6	Posted - 2015.05.31 08:20:00 - [30] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: n my opinion it would only be worthwhile doing for the PS4. What a tantalizing concept. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net

Arcadiia Kain The Naughty Ninjas 98	Posted - 2015.05.31 08:51:00 - [31] - Quote I always said I would pay $15/mo if dust had a "premium" option. "Always on" passive and active booster, 10-15k aurum, with sales and special. Would I pay it now? No. During the last 2 months, I have played way to many boring, empty matches. Before, empty matches didnt happen. Now it's 75% of the matches I play. It's got to the point that I dread logging in to grind my dailies. The Naughty Ninjas CEO Minmatar scout/assault
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.05.31 10:25:00 - [32] - Quote the topic discussed is KEEPING the free-to-play setup of the game and offering an OPTIONAL (not required) 15 dollar/month sub that might have such benefits as: - one active and one passive booster active so long as the sub is paid - 50% discount on cosmetic items such as SKINs - An Aurum allotment of X amount per paid month - X number of keys per month things like that. Players who opt NOT to utilize this feature... Have the same options they have now. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Ghural WarRavens 399	Posted - 2015.05.31 12:36:00 - [33] - Quote No. There is simply not enough content to justify a 15 buck a month subscription.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.05.31 12:45:00 - [34] - Quote Ghural wrote: No. There is simply not enough content to justify a 15 buck a month subscription. This isn't a precise enough answer. Obviously you would not be interested in a Dust subscription, but are you opposed to the entire concept for everyone? After all, this is an option so you personally could stay F2P. @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2015.05.31 13:10:00 - [35] - Quote Been proposed before. Was met with all sorts of tin-foil and rampant negativity. Design a Skin Challenge POLL (Vote Now!)
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 160	Posted - 2015.05.31 13:13:00 - [36] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Been proposed before. Was met with all sorts of tin-foil and rampant negativity. I figured it had been proposed before. Thanks for that link Rather helpful. I'd like to keep this tin-foil free, however, for obvious reason. I'm curious as to what your thoughts are, Aeon. I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 160	Posted - 2015.05.31 13:19:00 - [37] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Actually the SKIN idea is pretty legit too since it has little benefit in actual gameplay but is also a nice benefit for people who are willing to pay for it. Yeah. I would be totally fine if they offered special subscriber SKINs, or whatever, but I know that some people aren't too keen on that. But you're spot on, Pokey. It doesn't give any benefit in-game, so it's not pay-to-win, which is always a plus. I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 160	Posted - 2015.05.31 13:23:00 - [38] - Quote Ghural wrote: No. There is simply not enough content to justify a 15 buck a month subscription. C'mon give me something more to work with. You can't just say 'no'. Let me ask you some questions to get you talking; If DUST had an optional subscription model, would you be opposed to it for the community as a whole? The game would still maintain a free-to-play model, but if you wanted to throw $10 or $15 at CCP, you could. If such a model were implemented, what incentives do you think DUST should have for subscribers? Speak, yo. Gimee more than just 'no'. I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 160	Posted - 2015.05.31 13:25:00 - [39] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: the topic discussed is KEEPING the free-to-play setup of the game and offering an OPTIONAL (not required) 15 dollar/month sub that might have such benefits as: - one active and one passive booster active so long as the sub is paid - 50% discount on cosmetic items such as SKINs - An Aurum allotment of X amount per paid month - X number of keys per month things like that. Players who opt NOT to utilize this feature... Have the same options they have now. Correct. Breakin, I'm curious to hear what your thoughts are this whole matter. Care to share? I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 160	Posted - 2015.05.31 13:26:00 - [40] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: No need for a subscription as the game has become very limited to the majority of the playerbase. Boosters? and put the SP where? Skins? a novelty thats as good as putting a chicken on my head. AUR? meh, still novelty at this point. To make a sub worthwhile, an total server reset would have to be done in terms of SP, ISK, inventory and PC etc. There would have to be more things for us to skill into. In my opinion it would only be worthwhile doing for the PS4. Or the PC ;) I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed

Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.31 14:35:00 - [41] - Quote on a other note on PS4 you have to subscribe to PS+ and i would certainly not pay double subscription just to play online on the PS4 and then a sub for Dust. Double fee= epic fail. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.05.31 14:48:00 - [42] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: on a other note on PS4 you have to subscribe to PS+ and i would certainly not pay double subscription just to play online on the PS4 and then a sub for Dust. Double fee= epic fail. Non issue since the Dust 514 sub is optional. @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.05.31 16:07:00 - [43] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Aiwha Bait wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I wouldn't pay to play for such a game. The only reason I played eve was because of lore and it was 10yrs of balancing that already happened. Fair enough. What if the major kinks were worked out? If racial parity was achieved along with ever developing lore then yes. Interesting. Anything else? Speeders, as a guy who loves his motorcycles this would cause me to be the most useless player in battle :D "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5	Posted - 2015.05.31 16:42:00 - [44] - Quote Idk the math but runescape started at like $5 a month, we could do the same and as they increase the price the players who payed $5 stay at 5 instead of increasing too. The most I could see this game would be $10/month...of course I wouldn't pay anything till we get it on next gen Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
deezy dabest 2	Posted - 2015.05.31 17:36:00 - [45] - Quote Sorry but CCP has not inspired the confidence in Dust that would merit a monthly subscription or grinding to pay for it each month with in game money. Why? Bugs that just never get fixed. Admittedly shrunken team of developers. CCP already called it a "bad game" and tried to abandon it once. No racial parity meaning the game is technically still not even complete. End game content that is just a bad design. I will admit that Ratatti seems to be SERIOUSLY improving PC but the concept is still flawed. No one wants to look at a game like a job, having to log on for special scheduled battles that are no different than other modes is just meh. It took CCP almost 10 years to even get Eve close to being considered really good. They obviously have management styles which are not conducive to developing and supporting new things. Take a look at WoD.
bathtubist Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion. 124	Posted - 2015.05.31 19:48:00 - [46] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: I would not care. So long as the free-to-play model with subscription does not emulate, say, Runescape, where important gameplay-things are locked behind subscription fees, then have at it. Discounts, exclusive skins, or other subscription incentives would be fine by me. So long as they remain outside the realm of important gameplay functions. However, I doubt CCP could make subscription appealing enough under those circumstances. I agree with this having a monthly subscription with discounts and such would be a better thing to do than to give a meta 10 gun or some op **** "Remote Explosives throwing distance has been reduced" - CCp Rattati Re''s have been nerfed We always see you
Seurimas Otg TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS No Context 11	Posted - 2015.05.31 23:19:00 - [47] - Quote I would love to see a good, friendly subscription model in DUST. A MUD I played for a while picked up a side-subscription model, on top of microtransactions, that I felt worked very well and could work very well here. So, the basic is idea is to just load on a bunch of ala carte bonuses for subscription, a bonus to microtransactions, and a bit of currency to boot. For example, the $15 Dust subscription could look like: * 25% bonus to passive SP gain (increases by 2% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 35%) * 15% bonus to active SP gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 20%) * 10% bonus to ISK gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 15%) * 10% bonus to LP gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 15%) * 15% more Aurum when purchased (increases by 4% each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 35%) * 10 hacked decryptor keys (a month) * 20,000 Aurum (a month) (slightly than if you just spent the $15 on Aurum) That's just an example, and maybe not perfectly suited to DUST, but I'd buy the crap out of it!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.01 00:38:00 - [48] - Quote Seurimas Otg wrote: I would love to see a good, friendly subscription model in DUST. A MUD I played for a while picked up a side-subscription model, on top of microtransactions, that I felt worked very well and could work very well here. So, the basic is idea is to just load on a bunch of ala carte bonuses for subscription, a bonus to microtransactions, and a bit of currency to boot. For example, the $15 Dust subscription could look like: * 25% bonus to passive SP gain (increases by 2% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 35%) * 15% bonus to active SP gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 20%) * 10% bonus to ISK gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 15%) * 10% bonus to LP gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 15%) * 15% more Aurum when purchased (increases by 4% each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 35%) * 10 hacked decryptor keys (a month) * 20,000 Aurum (a month) (slightly than if you just spent the $15 on Aurum) That's just an example, and maybe not perfectly suited to DUST, but I'd buy the crap out of it! 11/10, would purchase sub in year increments. @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.01 00:40:00 - [49] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I think DUST would have been better if it had never been F2P in the first place. It would have become something most of us would be willing to pay for. The incompetence of the old Dev team was the down fall of the game not the players. The old dev cut corners. Remember when a dev suggested bomber dropships? That would be because they couldn't afford to get a legit bomber modeled. Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.06.01 00:46:00 - [50] - Quote Why would I pay if there were a F2P option? Actually, before that, why would I pay MONTHLY for a game that can barely run properly, if at all? At least give us 50fps to even BEGIN to consider it lol

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.01 01:01:00 - [51] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Why would I pay if there were a F2P option? Actually, before that, why would I pay MONTHLY for a game that can barely run properly, if at all? At least give us 50fps to even BEGIN to consider it lol You need CCP to make Dust "run properly" at 50 FPS. CCP needs Dust to remain profitable. Keeping Dust profitable allows CCP to continue developing Dust and port it when possible. MAN I WISH THERE WAS SOME WAY TO HELP BOTH PARTIES GET WHAT THEY NEED HERE. HMMMMM. GEE WILLIKERS. THIS ONE IS A REAL HEAD SCRATCHER. @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 168	Posted - 2015.06.03 04:35:00 - [52] - Quote Seurimas Otg wrote: I would love to see a good, friendly subscription model in DUST. A MUD I played for a while picked up a side-subscription model, on top of microtransactions, that I felt worked very well and could work very well here. So, the basic is idea is to just load on a bunch of ala carte bonuses for subscription, a bonus to microtransactions, and a bit of currency to boot. For example, the $15 Dust subscription could look like: * 25% bonus to passive SP gain (increases by 2% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 35%) * 15% bonus to active SP gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 20%) * 10% bonus to ISK gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 15%) * 10% bonus to LP gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 15%) * 15% more Aurum when purchased (increases by 4% each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 35%) * 10 hacked decryptor keys (a month) * 20,000 Aurum (a month) (slightly than if you just spent the $15 on Aurum) That's just an example, and maybe not perfectly suited to DUST, but I'd buy the crap out of it! Yep, yep! So much this! Hope CCP Rattati is taking notes winks I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 898	Posted - 2015.06.03 04:40:00 - [53] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: Props to Leither and Ripley Riley for this I know this has probably been discussed here, but GD, give me you knee jerk reactions when you hear, "What if DUST 514 offered players to pay for a subscription, but also allowed them to continue to play for free if they choose to?" Give me your knee jerk reaction, pros, cons, benefits of having a sub, and discuss! Potential sub price? Same as EVE Online & Planetside 2 @ $15 USD a month? Discuss! :D how bout ! We order Eve online and get some Dust 514 with a side of fries for free with it ! pay for eve online and you get dust 514 for free trust me with this the Forums would be a better place ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal Rise Of Legion. 74	Posted - 2015.06.13 14:16:00 - [54] - Quote I think Dust 514 would benefit from having an optional subscription. This subscription should inlcude free ISK, AUR and boosters because, at least to me, just skins and cometics are not worth it. You (Aiwha) said in the biommased blog that this (boosters included in the subscription) would make this game a Pay to win. Since you can alredy acquire boosters by paying now, this is a non issue to me at least. Some people have said that locking content behind a paid-wall would be bad. I agree, but i think its also unrealistic for dust. I mean, we barely get new content, locking it for just a part of the community is not an option to me. Aiwha Bait wrote: But then with things like, "exclusive skins, or other subscription incentives" do you think it becomes "classist", to use Leither's words? "You're either a member of the paying class or not. Here's a badge recognizing you as a full citizen of Rome who can vote." How do you think other players mayr espond to this? This is again a non-issue to me, but an idea just crossed my mind. What if the people who paid for the susbscription where the only ones allowed to vote for the CPM? I dont actually support the idea, but you saying "Full citizen of Rome" made it cross my mind. Food for thougth. If CCP are thinking about porting the game to PS4/ PC (something vital to keep it alive IMO) then the discussion about the changes that are to be made to how the game is monetized is very relevant at this point in time, i hope this leads to a healthy discussion that helps CCP get some insight on the community-¦s thoughts on the subject. What must, will occur today, but there will always be a tomorrow Lo que deba, pasara hoy, pero siempre habra un mañana
Magnus Belmont Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2015.06.13 14:21:00 - [55] - Quote No one would pay a subscription to play Dust firstly. Secondly, what would be the point of having a subscription OR being able to play for free if you wanted still? If you want to give money to Dust, go buy Aurum, that's what it;s there for.
Yokal Bob Dead Man's Game 965	Posted - 2015.06.13 14:34:00 - [56] - Quote IF the old version of Dust was released and all the players that left the game came back, I would pay a subcription, equally, if Dust went to the PS4 I might consider paying a subcription Vote Dust for PS4
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.13 14:42:00 - [57] - Quote Magnus Belmont wrote: No one would pay a subscription to play Dust firstly. Secondly, what would be the point of having a subscription OR being able to play for free if you wanted still? If you want to give money to Dust, go buy Aurum, that's what it's there for. A sub option in other F2P MMORPGs gives a bundle of features for one flat monthly rate. That's part of the appeal; you can always count on getting X bonuses for $15 a month. I believe the author acknowledges that Dust 514 shouldn't be a subscription game, but instead a F2P game with a subscription option. For a good example of how a sub option can be implemented look at Planetside 2. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.06.13 15:13:00 - [58] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: Props to Leither and Ripley Riley for this I know this has probably been discussed here, but GD, give me you knee jerk reactions when you hear, "What if DUST 514 offered players to pay for a subscription, but also allowed them to continue to play for free if they choose to?" Give me your knee jerk reaction, pros, cons, benefits of having a sub, and discuss! Potential sub price? Same as EVE Online & Planetside 2 @ $15 USD a month? Discuss! :D no not if ccp is in charge
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1	Posted - 2015.06.13 15:32:00 - [59] - Quote As it is now? I'd play for free. It's not worth spending a consistent amount of money each month or paying a collective fee for several months or a year. Micro-transactions are a different story, for anybody looking to argue against my logic, in the sense that you're paying for a small thing, hence the micro, rather than the whole game. If the game was fleshed out? Yes. Hell yes. I'm one of the few players that have continued to try to look at a silver lining in the space clouds. I try to be optimistic because Dust 514 can still offer something that no other game is or seems to be doing. They can capitalize on that as a company and bring to us a beautiful world as developers. Personally, I'd want: 1. A more robust vehicle system than what we got now. The other racial vehicles with proper weaponry and proper anti-vehicular warfare. 2. A larger area for PC. More players means more corps which means we need more space or else we will have to deal with a lot, and I do mean a lot of senseless in-fighting. It's all dandy until players catch on that there simply isn't enough room in Molden Heath. 3. A better PC in general. Multiple ways of interaction (raiding, conquest, preemptive strikes, recon, etc) and multiple resources as promised in the roadmap. 4. All the heavy Anti-Infantry weapons being in the game. 5. PVE 6. Better Factional Warfare 7. Another game mode (I know we just got one but I really do feel like ONE more that isn't just a rehash of Skirmish/Domination would do nicely). 8. Another means to be competitive (i.e. Arena, Old Corp Battles) 9. GIVING DUST PLAYERS THE ABILITY TO OWN SHARES IN THEIR OWN CORPORATIONS. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 239	Posted - 2015.06.13 16:41:00 - [60] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: Props to Leither and Ripley Riley for this I know this has probably been discussed here, but GD, give me you knee jerk reactions when you hear, "What if DUST 514 offered players to pay for a subscription, but also allowed them to continue to play for free if they choose to?" Give me your knee jerk reaction, pros, cons, benefits of having a sub, and discuss! Potential sub price? Same as EVE Online & Planetside 2 @ $15 USD a month? Discuss! :D Don't you mean.........donations? I'd buy aurum instead!! =ƒÿÇ

DR DEESE NUTS 136	Posted - 2015.06.13 16:55:00 - [61] - Quote As long as I can buy the subscription in a store I'm fine. But that will most likely not happen. The USS m`dick
Magnus Belmont Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2015.06.13 16:55:00 - [62] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Magnus Belmont wrote: No one would pay a subscription to play Dust firstly. Secondly, what would be the point of having a subscription OR being able to play for free if you wanted still? If you want to give money to Dust, go buy Aurum, that's what it's there for. A sub option in other F2P MMORPGs gives a bundle of features for one flat monthly rate. That's part of the appeal; you can always count on getting X bonuses for $15 a month. I believe the author acknowledges that Dust 514 shouldn't be a subscription game, but instead a F2P game with a subscription option. For a good example of how a sub option can be implemented look at Planetside 2. Why would they give you monthly things for 15$, when they can already get you to spend more then that on things they release for Aurum? If you look at it how people do micro transactions for free to play games, you spend more then you realize on impulse. So seeing the new shiny thing in the store one day, your more likely to spend right there to get it, rather then pay in hope you might get something cool in a month. I don't doubt that's something you would like to see, but not something one would want from a business point of view.


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