|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
159
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 04:03:00 -
[1] - Quote
Props to Leither and Ripley Riley for this
I know this has probably been discussed here, but GD, give me you knee jerk reactions when you hear, "What if DUST 514 offered players to pay for a subscription, but also allowed them to continue to play for free if they choose to?" Give me your knee jerk reaction, pros, cons, benefits of having a sub, and discuss! Potential sub price? Same as EVE Online & Planetside 2 @ $15 USD a month?
Discuss! :D
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
159
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 04:09:00 -
[2] - Quote
Nocturnal Soul wrote:I wouldn't pay to play for such a game. The only reason I played eve was because of lore and it was 10yrs of balancing that already happened.
Fair enough. What if the major kinks were worked out?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
159
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 04:43:00 -
[3] - Quote
Vicious Minotaur wrote:I would not care. So long as the free-to-play model with subscription does not emulate, say, Runescape, where important gameplay-things are locked behind subscription fees, then have at it.
Discounts, exclusive skins, or other subscription incentives would be fine by me. So long as they remain outside the realm of important gameplay functions.
However, I doubt CCP could make subscription appealing enough under those circumstances.
But then with things like, "exclusive skins, or other subscription incentives" do you think it becomes "classist", to use Leither's words? "You're either a member of the paying class or not. Here's a badge recognizing you as a full citizen of Rome who can vote." How do you think other players mayr espond to this?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
159
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 04:44:00 -
[4] - Quote
Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I think DUST would have been better if it had never been F2P in the first place. It would have become something most of us would be willing to pay for.
Go on...elaborate.
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
159
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 04:45:00 -
[5] - Quote
Nocturnal Soul wrote:Aiwha Bait wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I wouldn't pay to play for such a game. The only reason I played eve was because of lore and it was 10yrs of balancing that already happened. Fair enough. What if the major kinks were worked out? If racial parity was achieved along with ever developing lore then yes.
Interesting. Anything else?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
160
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 04:49:00 -
[6] - Quote
Pokey Dravon wrote:I would 100% support an optional subscription if it provided benefit that would cost more if I purchased it a la carte.
Constant SP Boosters Constant LP Boosters A small lump of AUR to play around with ect. ect.
How much is "a small lump of AUR"?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
160
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 05:18:00 -
[7] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:SKINs sales for subscribers; 25 - 50% off certain SKINs for a week or something. I'm all for it. I would happily sub. CCP would benefit from a better method to make a profit from this game beside the AURbarge . Heimdallr69 wrote:On a ps4 sure..on this hunkajunk PS3 hell no Also, this... Is a very real problem. We need to get this game on a platform that players have less problem spending money on.
You would sub just for SKIN sales? :P Anything else that might incentivize you to subscribe?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
160
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 05:41:00 -
[8] - Quote
Ripley Riley wrote:Aiwha Bait wrote:You would sub just for SKIN sales? :P Anything else that might incentivize you to subscribe? Those built in boosters mentioned above would tempt me. Perhaps X free keys every month. To integrate with the existing warbarge monetization; subbers' component factories are 50% more efficient.
I could get behind that, I suppose. If the Experimental Facility produced an extra weapon/suit on top of what you get from your Warbarge level. That'd be nice.
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
160
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 05:49:00 -
[9] - Quote
Talos Vagheitan wrote:This will be a question when Dust crosses to its next platform as well: Keep F2P, or go subscription
I would say drop the subscription idea all together. Either keep it F2P (you make some fine points about that), or make me pay $20 or $30 one to have the game forever, and keep microtransaction in the game.
>inb4 Assassins Creed: Unity had microtransactions. Look how people enjoyed that. F*ck that.
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
160
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 13:13:00 -
[10] - Quote
I figured it had been proposed before. Thanks for that link Rather helpful. I'd like to keep this tin-foil free, however, for obvious reason. I'm curious as to what your thoughts are, Aeon.
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
160
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 13:19:00 -
[11] - Quote
Pokey Dravon wrote:Actually the SKIN idea is pretty legit too since it has little benefit in actual gameplay but is also a nice benefit for people who are willing to pay for it.
Yeah. I would be totally fine if they offered special subscriber SKINs, or whatever, but I know that some people aren't too keen on that. But you're spot on, Pokey. It doesn't give any benefit in-game, so it's not pay-to-win, which is always a plus.
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
160
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 13:23:00 -
[12] - Quote
Ghural wrote:No.
There is simply not enough content to justify a 15 buck a month subscription.
C'mon give me something more to work with. You can't just say 'no'. Let me ask you some questions to get you talking; If DUST had an optional subscription model, would you be opposed to it for the community as a whole? The game would still maintain a free-to-play model, but if you wanted to throw $10 or $15 at CCP, you could. If such a model were implemented, what incentives do you think DUST should have for subscribers?
Speak, yo. Gimee more than just 'no'.
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
160
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 13:25:00 -
[13] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:the topic discussed is KEEPING the free-to-play setup of the game and offering an OPTIONAL (not required) 15 dollar/month sub that might have such benefits as:
- one active and one passive booster active so long as the sub is paid - 50% discount on cosmetic items such as SKINs - An Aurum allotment of X amount per paid month - X number of keys per month
things like that.
Players who opt NOT to utilize this feature...
Have the same options they have now.
Correct. Breakin, I'm curious to hear what your thoughts are this whole matter. Care to share?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
160
|
Posted - 2015.05.31 13:26:00 -
[14] - Quote
Yokal Bob wrote:No need for a subscription as the game has become very limited to the majority of the playerbase. Boosters? and put the SP where? Skins? a novelty thats as good as putting a chicken on my head. AUR? meh, still novelty at this point.
To make a sub worthwhile, an total server reset would have to be done in terms of SP, ISK, inventory and PC etc. There would have to be more things for us to skill into. In my opinion it would only be worthwhile doing for the PS4.
Or the PC ;)
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
168
|
Posted - 2015.06.03 04:35:00 -
[15] - Quote
Seurimas Otg wrote:I would love to see a good, friendly subscription model in DUST. A MUD I played for a while picked up a side-subscription model, on top of microtransactions, that I felt worked very well and could work very well here.
So, the basic is idea is to just load on a bunch of ala carte bonuses for subscription, a bonus to microtransactions, and a bit of currency to boot.
For example, the $15 Dust subscription could look like:
* 25% bonus to passive SP gain (increases by 2% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 35%) * 15% bonus to active SP gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 20%) * 10% bonus to ISK gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 15%) * 10% bonus to LP gain (increases by 1% for each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 15%) * 15% more Aurum when purchased (increases by 4% each month you keep your subscription active, to a max of 35%) * 10 hacked decryptor keys (a month) * 20,000 Aurum (a month) (slightly than if you just spent the $15 on Aurum)
That's just an example, and maybe not perfectly suited to DUST, but I'd buy the crap out of it!
Yep, yep! So much this! Hope CCP Rattati is taking notes *winks*
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
|
|
|
|