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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.14 21:46:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:also some ISK on it's way to FW, you heard it here first That doesn't stop the LP grind. How many Caldari or Amarr FW matches do you run per week? Do you know how long it takes to get 10k LP as an Amarr or Caldari loyalist, much less 100k LP? I can get about 10k loyalty pts in 6 matches bro...? 10 days of that and you should have your APEX or SKIN suit. Am I missing something? I don't play FW because it doesn't pay out ISK but I sat down the other day to play GFW and went from like 579 LP to like 30,000 LP in a day. Is it harder in other factions? gall fw is easy mode.
Except when it's not. I've been in a few today and won 50 percent of them.
Half of the wins we got were stomps and the other half were hard fought wins.
The half I lost were to Proto stomps.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.15 00:27:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Except when it's not. I've been in a few today and won 50 percent of them.
Half of the wins we got were stomps and the other half were hard fought wins.
The half I lost were to Proto stomps. I believe I played eight matches today. I won two. Of the two matches I won, one was a stomp* and one was a decent fight where both sides were giving it their all.
To make matters worse, when I fight and I lose my Standing doesn't move at all. Even though I kept trying through the stomp the Amarr don't think I'm loyal enough apparently. Not even a +5 Standing "Thanks for not leaving the match".
*: It felt weird being on the other side of the stomp. I almost felt bad. Then I remember how badly one of the Min FW queue syncs were (officer weapons and dropsuits, logi trains, core locus spam, etc.) and I didn't feel quite as bad.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Lac Nokomis
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.15 00:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Except when it's not. I've been in a few today and won 50 percent of them.
Half of the wins we got were stomps and the other half were hard fought wins.
The half I lost were to Proto stomps. I believe I played eight matches today. I won two. Of the two matches I won, one was a stomp* and one was a decent fight where both sides were giving it their all. To make matters worse, when I fight and I lose my Standing doesn't move at all. Even though I kept trying through the stomp the Amarr don't think I'm loyal enough apparently. Not even a +5 Standing "Thanks for not leaving the match". *: It felt weird being on the other side of the stomp. I almost felt bad. Then I remember how badly one of the Min FW queue syncs were (officer weapons and dropsuits, logi trains, core locus spam, etc.) and I didn't feel quite as bad.
Are you fighting the urge to join a FW Q'ing channel? I'm pretty sure its common knowledge to not go at it alone in FW. But it sounds like you do it anyways?
Yeah, broken mechanics, but lets talk solutions instead of the pain, as I think FW players behavior speaks for itself. |
Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.15 00:42:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:also some ISK on it's way to FW, you heard it here first That doesn't stop the LP grind. How many Caldari or Amarr FW matches do you run per week? Do you know how long it takes to get 10k LP as an Amarr or Caldari loyalist, much less 100k LP? I can get about 10k loyalty pts in 6 matches bro...? 10 days of that and you should have your APEX or SKIN suit. Am I missing something? I don't play FW because it doesn't pay out ISK but I sat down the other day to play GFW and went from like 579 LP to like 30,000 LP in a day. Is it harder in other factions? gall fw is easy mode. Except when it's not. I've been in a few today and won 50 percent of them. Half of the wins we got were stomps and the other half were hard fought wins. The half I lost were to Proto stomps.
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Lac Nokomis
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.15 00:51:00 -
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After rediscovering my roots and grinding FW for the last week I plead you guys to raise the price.
Of both APEX and the skins. Both are way too low IMO. You shouldn't be able to grind FW for a week with boosters and buy 2 Apex suits. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.15 00:53:00 -
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Lac Nokomis wrote:Are you fighting the urge to join a FW Q'ing channel? I'm pretty sure its common knowledge to not go at it alone in FW. But it sounds like you do it anyways?
Yeah, broken mechanics, but lets talk solutions instead of the pain, as I think FW players behavior speaks for itself. I don't go in alone, I have a squad put together of corpmates. Sometimes it's just one other person, other times I have a full time, but I do not solo queue FW. I know better than that.
I hate that queue syncing is the only way to consistently earn victories in FW. That seems like a huge flaw in the gamemode itself. Which makes the idea of saving up 100k LP more infuriating.
Also, for those who are just now joining the thread, please cast your vote: https://strawpoll.me/4341661 Is the 100k LP + 10mil ISK price for FW SKINs fair? Should it be decreased? Increased? Let your voice be heard.
Lac Nokomis wrote:After rediscovering my roots and grinding FW for the last week I plead you guys to raise the price.
Of both APEX and the skins. Both are way too low IMO. You shouldn't be able to grind FW for a week with boosters and buy 2 Apex suits. Hmm... without boosters the price is too high, but with boosters it seems attainable. Good catch Lac.
I don't think that is a coincidence.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.15 01:31:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:
I hate that queue syncing is the only way to consistently earn victories in FW. That seems like a huge flaw in the gamemode itself. Which makes the idea of saving up 100k LP more infuriating.
To some degree I do as well.....but in its current iteration this is just how it is since locality cannot be chosen and FW should be less forgiving than Public Match Making.
I mean I can go out plexing in EVE, which is what flips the systems, solo if I want to and can go flying around looking for PvP solo as well. However I cannot and should not ever complain if a small gang of players flying around in the same area drops in on me and blows my ship up. I either should have run from the fight or been in my own squad.
However in Dust there is no real way to run and go plexing elsewhere or in a safer, more limited plex, other than leaving the match and trying to re-queue.
"Crush all who complain!"
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.15 12:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:However in Dust there is no real way to run and go plexing elsewhere or in a safer, more limited plex, other than leaving the match and trying to re-queue. This right here. The problem with comparing FW in Eve and Dust is that you can choose your level of engagement in Eve to an extent. In Dust you either get participate in the stomp or are stomped. I don't see even matches. Which brings up a good question: Did the matchmaking update get applied to FW? Probably not considering it would add to the already high wait times.
There also isn't an incentive to stay and fight for your faction. New players have a standing 0 with every faction. When they lose a match (which will happen a lot) they will earn 200-ish LPs and 0 Standing. What is the incentive to stay, exactly? Why would anyone play for the faction that loses as often as the Amarr/Caldari?
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.16 14:53:00 -
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Bumping for a few more votes in the poll.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.21 14:33:00 -
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We are at 98 votes guys. Can I get just two more?
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.21 14:48:00 -
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So yesterday my small sync (only 8 at the time) bumped into a near full Minmatar sync. We played it out, made some good pushes, but ultimately never had a chance. Next match we get deployed against the same people, and realizing this cycles would go on, we leave match to get out of sync with them. Some may call it cowardly or poor sport or whatever, but it's really picking your battles. Syncs going to sync, better for your faction to ensure the other victories. Maybe we'd of stayed if losing a battle wasn't the most unrewarding thing ever.
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp
Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.21 14:50:00 -
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Fix FW, then evaluate whether the LP rice needs changed, current FW mechanics I"d say lower it. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.21 14:53:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Maybe we'd of stayed if losing a battle wasn't the most unrewarding thing ever. And this, ladies and genlemercs, is why FW is shite right now. Getting your ass handed to you has absolutely no gain (lol200LPs) so why bother sticking it out. And adding ISK won't provide enough incentive either, Rattati.
Banjo Robertson wrote:Fix FW, then evaluate whether the LP rice needs changed, current FW mechanics I'd say lower it. CCP Rattati seems to believe PC is the marquee feature of Dust 514 and FW is the redheaded step child. Except for potentially adding in ISK rewards I have not heard any improvements coming to FW.
@Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.21 15:25:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati seems to believe PC is the marquee feature of Dust 514 and FW is the redheaded step child. Except for potentially adding in ISK rewards I have not heard any improvements coming to FW.
Because FW involves NPC corps and CCP loves everything 100% player driven, as if you can't get great player stories out of FW if it ever got some attention.
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares = PIE Inc, Amarr dedicated Corp
Channel for AFW Squads & Orbitals: PIE Ground Control
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