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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:28:00 -
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CCP I am personally displeased, to say the least, with the limit of only 3 myos and here is a few reasons why...
- Stacking myos bred new life into us Plasma Cannon, Mass Driver and Flaylock users.
- Stacking myos open up whole new paths, new portions of the map unseen to us before. (A direct gameplay enhancement, 3 myo limit just doesn't cut it past hopping on top of containers)
- Stacking myos was in no way OP (By this week barely anyone was even using myos, if it was OP you would see masses flock to the 'new meta')
- Stacking myos could have easily been handled a different type of 'nerf' if people truly felt they were over powered (such as other suit reductions when using them)
- 3 Myo limit is a direct nerf to Melee warriors. I don't know the exact damage percentage we are down now but its hefty. Imagine your gun being nerfed by 20-30 % or more! 
Please bare in mind that when stacking myos the user is foregoing, EWAR, shields, and damage mods for the benefit of jumping high and hitting hard. As such I strongly urge CCP and the community to at least rethink the changes.
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:31:00 -
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I didn't mind the Myros cause either my AScR or ScR would just shoot them out the sky cause they can't really move in the air
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:32:00 -
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With the RE and myo changes, my "B-2 Spirit" callogi bombet has been put to rest. Its a sad, explosive lacking day.
That being said, i still have my "B-1 Lancer" MD minja that shall avenge his brothers death at the hands of the emergent gameplay killers.
Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:34:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:I didn't mind the Myros cause either my AScR or ScR would just shoot them out the sky cause they can't really move in the air
Exactly! Like a hot knife through butter. Hence why no body but the few crazies were using them on a regular basis.
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:35:00 -
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Nah. It was not working as intended. |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:36:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Nah. It was not working as intended.
What, because it was fun and exciting?  
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:46:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Joel II X wrote:Nah. It was not working as intended. What, because it was fun and exciting?
Because what was fun for you was not fun for everyone.
I strongly disagree with a reversal to the Myofibs. As Joel said, they were never intended to work like they did, and this change is hardly the worst thing that could happen.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
2910
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:47:00 -
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My min. scout has always had a 3 myo limit so I'm good with this.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:49:00 -
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No
CPM 1, Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:52:00 -
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Not a valid answer unless the question was "does ratatti care" or "will IWS seek a 3rd CPM term"
Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 19:57:00 -
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I can not understand how this is a direct nerf to melee warriors.
I can not understand how the word nerf is even being used here when nothing on the myo`s has changed.
At best some suits now have a restrictions on something that was never intended
to work that way in the first place.
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You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
My like button is back. C:<
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DDx77
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:03:00 -
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I agree with all your points
I am an avid myofib user - I effin' love em'
It might be too soon to tell if this is a crippling nerf or not
They are limiting to 3 in the meantime until they figure out the stacking penalties
My opinion is that it's balanced, I die very often from just falling damage
Why they don't just limit to 4 and call it a day I don't know. |
Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:10:00 -
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Signed even though you aren't asking for them.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:14:00 -
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Gee, very constructive IWS
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Billy Jr
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:19:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:Gee, very constructive IWS
I know. It's like he's ******* Shakespeare with the way he makes his words flow. Magnificent! |
Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:19:00 -
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No. They weren't supposed to work like that.
They're still not working as intended.
Rattati said that they're working on the code so myof. will have thier right pentaly. Until then, 3 max for use.
When they'll fix the problem you will jump way less than you do now.
Caldari Loyalist
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:21:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Nah. It was not working as intended.
^ This.
The heights achieved at 4x and 5x were ridiculous.
Shoot scout with yes.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:24:00 -
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I've never had problems in melee before myos were changed to give also jump and i always used 3 of them.
Mobility with 3 is perfect, with 4 it starts to be silly.
Jump is ok, rocketjump should not belong to Dust.
Shaman's Shack - A place to trade
Training to be a packed RE master launcher
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:30:00 -
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If the penalties for stacking can stay the same for Melee damage but cap at 3 for jump height, I would approve.
Untill then, lets limit all modules stackability just to be fair... you want 4 kincats? noooope 3 is max... you want 4 complex reps.... NOOOOOOPE 3 is max, no pocket repper for you, you want to be super damp with 4 profile dampeners on, negatron!!! 3 is max homie... 4 armor plates on your amarr sent, YUUUUUROUTAAHEERRREE 3 is max now mr kankles..
Some people who are not fully skilled into Hand-to-Hand combat have to stack 4-5 Basic/ ENhanced Myofibers to make a halfway decent left hook..... those are the ones I don't want discouraged....
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2278
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:32:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Joel II X wrote:Nah. It was not working as intended. ^ This. The heights achieved at 4x and 5x were ridiculously awesome .
Yes they were
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:34:00 -
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I will admit that I was originally a fan of this change but once the spam from it being new wore off I became more indifferent.
This band aid is just not necessary since most myo spammers realized that by stacking 4 - 5 they were pretty much going to get one shot when they land assuming they do not fall and die from their own jump after taking a couple of hits. This is pretty balanced as far as I am concerned.
I also believe the 3 limit should be repealed just because it sets a dangerous precedent for a new level of band aid fixes that CCP is so good at. Remove the limit and fix the stacking issue when you can. What happens when damage mods get tweaked and the stacking penalty gets broken on those? How about shield extenders or rechargers? This change just sets us on a path of having our fittings dictated by random rules just because of broken code. These kind of rules are bad for everyone. |
Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
650
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:38:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Joel II X wrote:Nah. It was not working as intended. What, because it was fun and exciting?
The game in its entirety was not designed around myo jumping. Therefore, an exploit. Redesigning other game elements would most likely never happen with this game now.
Uprising redesigned the maps just to nerf sniping by blocking LoS areas. Maps were reduced in size which would be the exact opposite thing to do if you were going to factor in high jumping.
Regular running and gunning hasn't even been properly fixed yet.
There was never a reason to add this stupid Titanfall/Destiny gimmick.
You need to have fun jumping? Rent an inflatable.
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:51:00 -
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I practiced for weeks in a bouncy house...for WHAT!!?
Never stacked more than three...more useful for melee attacks directly out of a cloak. 
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2278
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:54:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Joel II X wrote:Nah. It was not working as intended. What, because it was fun and exciting? The game in its entirety was not designed around myo jumping. Therefore, an exploit. Redesigning other game elements would most likely never happen with this game now. Uprising redesigned the maps just to nerf sniping by blocking LoS areas. Maps were reduced in size which would be the exact opposite thing to do if you were going to factor in high jumping. Regular running and gunning hasn't even been properly fixed yet. There was never a reason to add this stupid Titanfall/Destiny gimmick. You need to have fun jumping? Rent an inflatable.
Broken logic is broken.
"Unintended design" arguement is weak at best.
Other unintended things still left in the game.
Sticky REs make jihad lava
6 man repper/slayer commando squads
Dropship surfing
Blocking mcc missiles
Low speed lav squishing
Havs in general.
PCs various clusterfuucks. Notably less though currently.
Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
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Ku Shala
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:56:00 -
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double cal logi nerf ... keep nerfing the weakest suit , 9 pg for a cpu mod there goes my perfect fit I guess ill be making alot of new fits before pcs tonight
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)
Caldari Loyalist
22 230 780 sp in drop suit upgrades
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
6455
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Posted - 2015.05.07 20:58:00 -
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It only attracted the ****** PC/MD/Flaylock users, because it was a cheap tactic.
Some details can be ignored
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.05.07 21:03:00 -
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The 3 myo limit is just because they weren't able to get the stacking penalty for jumping to work correctly, so it's a temp fix till they get that sorted out.
"When in doubt, dropship out"
If you see me, bring AV to collect ISK
DUST STUFF
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DUST Fiend
16878
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Posted - 2015.05.07 21:09:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Broken logic is broken.
"Unintended design" arguement is weak at best.
CCP Rattati wrote:As was plainly explained with the Myofibril mods, we wanted to increase the jumping height so that stacking 3 would allow to get on top of the large containers. The plan was for stacking penalties to take care of the rest, as the 4th and 5th module under stacking penalties add incrementally almost zero improvement under normal circumstances. However, the stacking penalty does not work currently, and we havenGÇÖt found the cause. Until the cause has been found and a fix deployed, we will be limiting Myofibrils to 3 per loadout which is almost the same effect. It was silly fun while it lasted, but, ultimately not the designed intent.
"When in doubt, dropship out"
If you see me, bring AV to collect ISK
DUST STUFF
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.07 21:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Broken logic is broken.
"Unintended design" arguement is weak at best.
CCP Rattati wrote:As was plainly explained with the Myofibril mods, we wanted to increase the jumping height so that stacking 3 would allow to get on top of the large containers. The plan was for stacking penalties to take care of the rest, as the 4th and 5th module under stacking penalties add incrementally almost zero improvement under normal circumstances. However, the stacking penalty does not work currently, and we havenGÇÖt found the cause. Until the cause has been found and a fix deployed, we will be limiting Myofibrils to 3 per loadout which is almost the same effect. It was silly fun while it lasted, but, ultimately not the designed intent.
Fully aware that he stated that many many times, ive parroted it myself for weeks upon its initial release.
Im pointing out hypocrisy in "intended design" arguments.
Im okay with accepting broken cose and bandaid fixes, but unfortunately the amount of fuucks i give for the intended design excuse ran out about the same time "waves of opportunity " become the norm.
Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7335
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Posted - 2015.05.07 21:23:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Joel II X wrote:Nah. It was not working as intended. What, because it was fun and exciting?
No. I wrote why. |
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