Its difficult being right :/

How would you know? o_O

dont quote me on this but I believe its to give passengers fair time to bail since transport ships can have 6 passengers plus a pilot. instapop would be wp jackpot. dropships can be bounced and hit from alot more angles than a lav or hav.also remember tanks lavs and drop ships use to burn to death if you didnt have a decent repair mod.

Because if dropship pilots have to lose their ISK AND die they would all ragequit.

Its like the like farms you joined before

It just works

You know when there's more than one, your 2 to 3 AV squad can still clear them all up right? If they're all boxed together, move, or set up a trap. Chase them with LAVs. Block exits with REs, force them to move by dancing around them throwing REs and AV nades at them. If they aren't hacking or preventing a hack, they aren't doing much to actually help the match, unless your team is stupidly running at the tanks over and over, in which case that's on them.

Unless a single proto AV fit costs 1.3 million, or a single proto tank costs 200k, then there's going to be some push and pull. You can't have a magical 1v1 environment unless everything is on a 1 to 1 scale.

Bring another tank. Or a dropship. AFK if you're bad. Tanks go down all the time to halfway descent AV squads and other vehicles, not quite sure what you're doing wrong

RE's do nothing while hardeners are on. AV Grenades do nothing while hardeners are on. Chasing an HAV in an LAV is suicide. You can't ambush a tank when it can road kill you in two directions at a time. Setting up a trap won't happen if it's a double hardener double repper camper tank. I have never actually seen a team win when said team goes out of their way to destroy a proto double hardener double repper camper tank, there's a good chance that it might be been because 3/8ths (6/16) of the team had to spend their teams resources to destroy the tank. I think at this point you should've given up.

What is this blasphemy? My likes are harvested from the wild.

Why is it that dropships don't explode in the air once they run out of hit points? Tanks explode. LAVs explode. Even the MCC explodes. Why is the dropship special?

Yes, it explodes when it hits the ground, but that gives pilots plenty of time to jump out, right?

Just something I noticed last night as we took down a couple dropships.

So you admit that your team overcommited to handling a tank that likely wasn't getting too many kills anyways, since it had to drive off for all of it's cycles, and likely was driving off if 6 players were pelting it with AV.

Sounds like your team should have given up since they clearly aren't good at AV, and instead focused on just holding the points that the tank can't hack.

This has irked me forever, and I continue to advocate dropships actually exploding so dropship pilots actually (occasionally) die.

You're a voice of sanity, Ku.

It's probably the longest running Urban Myth that Dropships don't explode in midair from enemy fire.

They DO explode in midair if hit appropriately. "Appropriately" means (from what I have been able to witness firsthand):

--an ADDITIONAL shot from a Rail installation or Main Rail Turret, after the DS has reached burning/smoking animation

--an ADDITIONAL shot from an LP-skilled Forge carrier, after the DS has gone into "burn" animation.

--a mishap interception with a Ship-class Cannon round (the type of missile that is only fired from the MCC belly-turret or one of the Null Cannon nozzles).

The little beehive fireworks from Swarms will never trigger it----it's the one-shot punch that does it.


Because we TEND to overheat our Railgun Turrets before we can successfully "give em one last pulse with my name on it"GǪ

Because worried DS operators TEND to ditch-n-abandon their vehicle on a roof before you can finish shooting (thus "locking" the vehicle into a weird burn-animation that has to blow out on its own)...

Because it's not too frequent that DS drivers linger in the path of the MCC-missiles (after the first time it happens to us, we learn fast)GǪ.

Because Large Rail Turrets have been "trimmed" by the Devs to make it really hard to hose a DS within the Railgun's limited RoFGǪ.

GǪ.you just don't witness the midair-pops of a DS too often. But that's all on the players, not on this "special privilege" that the DS-Urban Legend keeps foisting on the community.
I used to turret-gun for HAVs and Installations quite a bit in the past, so I've seen the "midairs". Most of you just won't notice them---you're busy, and there's just too much other stuff going on around you to waste watching dropships all day. LOL!

Trying this on the next dropship I down.

Does it only work on ones you shoot down yourself or can you shoot one someone else has downed and trigger the explosion?

If the tank wasn't getting too many kills anyways then why would 6/16 players on a team go out of their way to waste their own ISK trying to help their team? 6/16 is not a team, that is a squad. This always happens on domination which means there's only one point for the tanker to worry about, that means we wouldn't be able to get any other points. You've just been jumping to conclusions this entire time. Read my posts twice before you make even more mistakes.

It doesn't take 6 proto AV to down a proto tank, even with both hardeners up. Either your AV "squad" was rocking basic / advanced gear, or you guys were doing something really, really wrong.

Also, domination is a ***** because you can't get any real angle of attack. Of all the game modes, Domination is dominated most easily by the team with the strongest vehicle presence, unless the objective is indoors. Different game modes take different tactics.

But, fielding a competent AV squad is definitely the first step, and if SIX of you couldn't down the tank, well...not sure what to tell you.

When you run proto AV there aren't just vehicles, there are infantry. And those infantry will guard the only thing capable of protecting the point, no matter how many frontline suits it takes. We're using full advanced basic medium suits so we don't go negative while hunting this unicorn. While we do get plenty of kills from the worker bees surrounding their queen, our team still refuses to do anything but enjoy a nice cup of tea in a DS while watching what's going on. The HAV will get bored and hunt for the berries and the berries will die by a horde of infantry and this shiny yellow tank. Also, you're putting quotation marks around the word squad as if that isn't what it actually is called, what have you been playing?

I already did. Respecced myself out of them.

That being said, jumping out most of the time just results in you committing suicide via the flaming wreckage running you over in midair.

"Oh sweet lawd guys it's a HAV, switch to AV before it can destroy the suppl- okay it destroyed the supply depot. Let's run back to the- okay it killed everyone. Alright respawn in AV. Okay, everyone wait until the hardeners are down aaaan- **** some infantry got me. Respawn. ****! They fielded a second HAV. Where are you guys? They are camping the drop uplink? Okay. Just focus fire on that HAV. HIS HARDENERS ARE DOWN! YEAH! HE'S AT 20% ARMOR! HE... ran away faster than we could ever sprint. Okay. J-just... I don't know anymore."

Tactics.

Don't be Judge R, DUST Fiend. Never go full Judge R.

You might finally get a kill

Yup. As a career AV user, it's very painful to get no kills since vehicles are so OP.

I watched you gain almost 4k likes in 2 days

So why is there only one AV shooting him if your whole team is boxed in?

Isn't it kind of sad you had to get alts to like your post?

Also, lies are lies. 2 people with AV can kill a tank from full HP maximum hardeners and a plate... in about 4 seconds.

OH WAIT! You must be those guys who hide about 200m away taking pot shots, and wondering why the tank doesn't die when half of your attacks hit the terrain instead of the vehicles right?
That's the ONLY explanation. If you actually had an AV fit, and you were in close combat with it, you could take more than half of its health out solo... and that's with hardeners up... In about 10 seconds.
And if no hardeners... Pppppftt. it's dead.

The difference between people who get into combat, and people who hide on the edges in an AV fit, is quite a large gap.