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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
2032
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Posted - 2015.04.15 22:02:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Elpedo Hughes wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Bro, i'm loyalty rank 2 or 3 and I've been playing since chromosome. Seriously CCP?? Seriously? So you think you should have a say on a game you've spent nothing on? You think someone who has played the game for only 30 minutes but spent over $100 should have a say on anything? Tell me, what would happen if all the players that didn't spend any money on Dust were to just stop playing and leave? You will have a very small player pool left. Matchmaking and game queues get screwed, and the remaining paying players will become unhappy with the small player pool. They too will start dropping out and Dust is left with a player pool size which isn't enough to sustain CCP's finances. Tl;dr Time spent on a game also equates to loyalty and deserves the same respect.
Lol. U r a beast.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1051
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Posted - 2015.04.15 22:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:How can you be 2 or 3?
You'd only just scrape a loyalty ranking of 3 if you hadn't bought aurum...
Think about that for a bit.... |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9260
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:21:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Tl;dr
Time spent on a game also equates to loyalty and deserves the some respect. Fixed. F2Pers are valuable, but in the end if they don't spend some pocket change on Dust they aren't helping the game stay afloat.
@Ripley_Riley
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
2032
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:27:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Harpyja wrote:Tl;dr
Time spent on a game also equates to loyalty and deserves the some respect. Fixed. F2Pers are valuable, but in the end if they don't spend some pocket change on Dust they aren't helping the game stay afloat.
You do realize that if we actually had to pay for this game- most of us would never have even picked it up considering the terrible IGN reviews and other reviews. Also- in my opinion- time spent on a game deserves more respect than money. I'm not rich nor are a lot of other players that play. If you pay, great you get arum and can buy stuff with secondary currency and buy respec (I'm not hatin) but when it comes to key things like trading- it should be available to everyone especially people that have played this game two three years.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
10125
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:31:00 -
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I think you're lying. There's no way on earth you're so low. My secondary character is higher than you and I haven't spent a dime on it.
As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Patrick57
9906
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:32:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Pay to win? The bonuses granted by loyalty rank focus on ISK and LP gains. ISK and LP can be attained by just playing the damn game. Pay to win would be if loyalty rank granted you +10% armor HP, increased shield recharge rates, or something. Wilhelm Klingspor wrote:I know, they need to look up the word loyalty and see if they didn't mix it up with prosperity, royalty, generosity rank.
The butthurt inside me is spreading... i can feel it Paying customer keep the lights on and development going for everyone. They are keeping the game the F2Pers enjoy going. That's loyalty. If this game was worth investing in I would. Anyway- the team that brings the more isk stands a better chance at winning. Also, trading (pay for loyalty 4) = more officer weapons to some people = win.
this post reads like you didn't even read his post |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
724
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:33:00 -
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Your only level 2 or 3 if you made the account and never really played on it. Not a valid argument ~(._.~)
The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
(~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
76
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:35:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:If this game was worth investing in I would. Anyway- the team that brings the more isk stands a better chance at winning. Also, trading (pay for loyalty 4) = more officer weapons to some people = win. You can earn loyalty rank 4 through play. Since the benefit can be earned without spending a time it is not pay to win. For it to be pay to win the feature would only be available for paying customers. That is not the case. It's just FASTER to pay. While that's true, its a matter of degree. It should be feasible for someone to unlock trading with a reasonable amount of effort and not paying. I'm not entirely sure how long it would take to unlock trading without paying, but if it's taking you know like....6 months to do, that's pretty ridiculous for a feature which is common to online games coming out of the gate. I understand the intention of the Loyalty Rank limitation, but I think we need to take a hard look at exactly how long it will take someone to reach that with reasonable play and no AUR spent.
lower it to 3 i've been playing for almost a year now and I play a lot, im barely rank 3 |
maeth-01 2501
Savage Bullet
General Tso's Alliance
62
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:42:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Bro, i'm loyalty rank 2 or 3 and I've been playing since chromosome. Seriously CCP?? Seriously?
Im half way through 2 and I have probably only played about 10 FW in the last 2 years........ are you sure your playing it right
Laugh, and the world laughs with you;Weep, and you weep alone
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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:45:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Bro, i'm loyalty rank 2 or 3 and I've been playing since chromosome. Seriously CCP?? Seriously?
It takes like 24 years playing 8 hours a day and being a decent player to reach Rank 15.
At some point the "Pay to get sooner" Argument to avoid the "Pay to win" Argument becomes moot.
If it's pay money or wait 24 years... It's ******* pay to win. No matter how much fanboys want to sugar coat it.
Warbarge is no different.
CCP's underhanded business practices have completely turned me off from ever putting another dollar into this IP. |
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9264
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:55:00 -
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JJ'S wrote:It takes like 24 years playing 8 hours a day and being a decent player to reach Rank 15. Except we aren't talking about loyalty rank 15, you tool. We are talking about loyalty rank 4. That's the rank needed to open up simple player trading, if you forgot in the span of 2 pages.
Sir Dukey wrote:in my opinion- time spent on a game deserves more respect than money. Ask a business who they respect though. The guy who has played Dust 514 for two years and hasn't spent a dime or the guy who has played for two years and spent $20+
I'll give you two guesses, but you'll only need one.
@Ripley_Riley
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Meric Voyer
Universal Rogue Traders
33
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:58:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:
Faster =/= p2w
If you can't pay aurum at least pay attention.
Bahahaha. Nail. Head. Thoroughly hit. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7081
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:58:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:If you are rank 2 or 3 then spend like $5 - $10 and you will be at 4.
Otherwise, you will need to play more. Much more. Spend money on Dust? LOL.
It's 5 dollars, bro. That's below minimum wage. |
Meric Voyer
Universal Rogue Traders
33
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:00:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Time spent on a game also equates to loyalty and deserves the same respect.
+1
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9264
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:01:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:It's 5 dollars, bro. That's below minimum wage. ******* thank you.
If OP wasn't a giant shitass about loyalty rank I would offer to send him a $10 PSN card because I can afford it right now.
@Ripley_Riley
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Meric Voyer
Universal Rogue Traders
33
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:02:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Harpyja wrote:Tl;dr
Time spent on a game also equates to loyalty and deserves the some respect. Fixed. F2Pers are valuable, but in the end if they don't spend some pocket change on Dust they aren't helping the game stay afloat.
Fixed? What about the word "the" that you left in there?
"the some respect"
lol, is that a CCP fix? bahahaha |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9264
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:03:00 -
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Meric Voyer wrote:Fixed? What about the word "the" that you left in there?
"the some respect"
lol, is that a CCP fix? bahahaha  I'm on my phone damn it. You don't know how hard it is to edit quotes on this thing with my sausage fingers.
@Ripley_Riley
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
2034
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:04:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:If you are rank 2 or 3 then spend like $5 - $10 and you will be at 4.
Otherwise, you will need to play more. Much more. Spend money on Dust? LOL. It's 5 dollars, bro. That's below minimum wage.
I can't afford that m8. I'm a broke ass college student.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Meric Voyer
Universal Rogue Traders
33
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:05:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote: I'm on my phone damn it. You don't know how hard it is to edit quotes on this thing with my sausage fingers.
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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:13:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:JJ'S wrote:It takes like 24 years playing 8 hours a day and being a decent player to reach Rank 15. Except we aren't talking about loyalty rank 15, you tool. We are talking about loyalty rank 4. That's the rank needed to open up simple player trading, if you forgot in the span of 2 pages.
If you think in very very small brain functions at a time and are unable to see the entire picture past a simple trading feature....
Then i would be a tool?
If you however understand that it takes 28 years to reach rank 15... It doesn't matter what freaking rank your talking about.... or WHAT magical feature CCP has decided to tie into it.
When it is taking you potentially 28 years to gain 15 ranks... How many to gain 4? How does the current system even make sense?
Oh yea, I forgot... you wanted to talk about an extremely small picture and don't want any side facts or information getting in the way of that narrowly small picture. |
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
947
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:17:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Meric Voyer wrote:Fixed? What about the word "the" that you left in there?
"the some respect"
lol, is that a CCP fix? bahahaha I'm on my phone damn it. You don't know how hard it is to edit quotes on this thing with my sausage fingers.
I know them feels bro... I know them feels...
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9266
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:18:00 -
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JJ'S wrote:When it is taking you potentially 28 years to gain 15 ranks... How many to gain 4? How does the current system even make sense? LR XP needed grows exponentially. The requirement starts very small and increases more and more with each level. Getting from 2 -> 3 for example, will take muuuch less time than 6 -> 7. Comparing getting to rank 15 with the time it takes to get to rank 4 is asinine in a way I cannot describe with words.
Of course it's going to take longer.
If you want to improve this then help the community come up with ways to generate LR XP faster. I've got a thread open (that you have already shitposted in). Increasing the speed we gain LR XP through play will reduce that "28 years to rank 15" you keeping screaming about.
@Ripley_Riley
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
265
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Posted - 2015.04.16 01:14:00 -
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You definitely should be higher. I have played since uprising 1.3- present and I am a corporal. Still need some to reach rank 4 and I've never used ISk.
48th Special Operations Force.
Twitter- @48SOF
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
71
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Posted - 2015.04.16 01:47:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Spend money on Dust? LOL. Then don't complain when your loyalty rank isn't high? Purchasing AUR is the fastest way to get loyalty rank. I also have a hard time believing that you have been here since beta and only have 2 - 3 loyalty rank. Have you checked it recently? Do you play a match per week or something? Pay to win?
It is pay for convenience mainly.
One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
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thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
431
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:14:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Bro, i'm loyalty rank 2 or 3 and I've been playing since chromosome. Seriously CCP?? Seriously?
Hahahahahahha |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1120
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:49:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Spend money on Dust? LOL. Then don't complain when your loyalty rank isn't high? Purchasing AUR is the fastest way to get loyalty rank. I also have a hard time believing that you have been here since beta and only have 2 - 3 loyalty rank. Have you checked it recently? Do you play a match per week or something? Pay to win?
free to play? |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7090
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Posted - 2015.04.16 16:31:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Joel II X wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:If you are rank 2 or 3 then spend like $5 - $10 and you will be at 4.
Otherwise, you will need to play more. Much more. Spend money on Dust? LOL. It's 5 dollars, bro. That's below minimum wage. I can't afford that m8. I'm a broke ass college student.
Get a job, ya damn hippie. I'm a full time college student and have a part time job. I could buy an Elite Pack every week of I wanted to. |
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
1107
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Posted - 2015.04.16 16:39:00 -
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I started playing in Uprising 1.4, never spent a penny on Dust, loyalty rank 4. |
Ion Durziac
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
5
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Posted - 2015.04.16 16:41:00 -
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OMFG loyalty rank 3 actually exsists!?!?!?
Rage quitting is for losers throw a chair first and leave the match - Ion Durziac. Professional Chair Thrower
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Ion Durziac
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
5
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Posted - 2015.04.16 16:42:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Joel II X wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:If you are rank 2 or 3 then spend like $5 - $10 and you will be at 4.
Otherwise, you will need to play more. Much more. Spend money on Dust? LOL. It's 5 dollars, bro. That's below minimum wage. I can't afford that m8. I'm a broke ass college student. Get a job, ya damn hippie. I'm a full time college student and have a part time job. I could buy an Elite Pack every week of I wanted to.
Good Job?
Rage quitting is for losers throw a chair first and leave the match - Ion Durziac. Professional Chair Thrower
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