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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.04.10 12:28:00 -
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Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode.
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.04.10 12:42:00 -
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+1 kicked in the dink |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1945
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Posted - 2015.04.10 12:56:00 -
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Even then you still could and most likely will get your $h!t pushed in .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.10 12:59:00 -
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Suck it, slaver!!!
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:11:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Even then you still could and most likely will get your $h!t pushed in. I have a theory on why that is...
Minmatar dropsuits are the fastest dropsuits on the field; highest walk/strafe and sprint. They regen stamina the fastest too.
They also receive innate hacking speed bonuses. The scout gets an additional hacking speed bonus from dropsuit command ON TOP of the innate bonus. They also receive the most lethal service rifle in game right now: CR.
Meanwhile, the Amarr are the slowest dropsuits, with a weapon that has little stopping power against armor, and no hacking bonuses.
Early in the match the Minmatar are able to quickly hack the objectives and installations before the Amarr can field their forces. This gives them a great early-game lead.
So I guess the Amarr need to switch to Minmatar tech so they can compete That seems... silly and poorly designed, if I am being completely honest.
Bremen van Equis wrote:Suck it, slaver!!! Mommy and daddy are talking. Please don't interrupt.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1947
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:31:00 -
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I think your on to something Double R , as I look at the matches that I've played in it seems to happen the exact same way that you mentioned .
Plays out the same way .
Speed kills and their coordinated as frack as well .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3352
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:37:00 -
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Minmatar are righteous! Death to the Slaver scum!
But yea man Amarr have a pretty tough time but the last time we had an event like this, the Amarr actually put up some incredible teams. You guys need to get organised again.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:39:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Even then you still could and most likely will get your $h!t pushed in. I have a theory on why that is... Minmatar dropsuits are the fastest dropsuits on the field; highest walk/strafe and sprint. They regen stamina the fastest too. They also receive innate hacking speed bonuses. The scout gets an additional hacking speed bonus from dropsuit command ON TOP of the innate bonus. They also receive the most lethal service rifle in game right now: CR. Meanwhile, the Amarr are the slowest dropsuits, with a weapon that has little stopping power against armor, and no hacking bonuses. Early in the match the Minmatar are able to quickly hack the objectives and installations before the Amarr can field their forces. This gives them a great early-game lead. So I guess the Amarr need to switch to Minmatar tech so they can compete That seems... silly and poorly designed, if I am being completely honest. Bremen van Equis wrote:Suck it, slaver!!! Mommy and daddy are talking. Please don't interrupt.
Except that people dont and are not forced to run racial fits.......
I for one run a Caldari Assault with a plasma cannon for Minmatar a lot of the time. Unless you are talking about bpo`s / Apex suits but then I would just lol.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:39:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Speed kills and their coordinated as frack as well. The Minmatar meta (MinAssault + MD, MinAssault + SG, MinAssault + CR) has encouraged a lot of players to migrate to Minmatar FW to earn the FotM APEX and other gear. Add to that, the repair tool is the logi's bread and butter, and it is only available from the Minmatar FW store.
It's classic Strategic Dominance. They are running Min FW because it earns them the gear that works the best in every other gamemode.
CommanderBolt wrote:Except that people don't and are not forced to run racial fits.......
I for one run a Caldari Assault with a plasma cannon for Minmatar a lot of the time. Unless you are talking about bpo`s / Apex suits but then I would just lol. I see Minmatar gear when fighting opposite the Minmatar. Things like the CR, SMG, MD, and MinAssault.
It's not rocket science. Minmatar FW awards Minmatar LP which buys Minmatar gear...
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.04.10 15:14:00 -
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Makes me sad I can't be there to wipe the floor with your skulls
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1082
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Posted - 2015.04.10 15:15:00 -
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Don't get me wrong, I've seen some solid AmarrFW Q-syncs lately. But only Q-syncs are the ones that win. And they are mostly the ones composed of proto-ed out corporation squads, not loyalist squads like with you, Nocturnal, or True.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9615
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Posted - 2015.04.10 15:50:00 -
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5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00.
Amarr are the good guys
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9041
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:02:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00. I wonder what 5:00 EVE time is in Central...
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9615
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:10:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00. I wonder what 5:00 EVE time is in Central... Midnight
I'm central too and it sucks, but that matches are so much better.
Amarr are the good guys
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:18:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Midnight I'm central too and it sucks, but that matches are so much better. Well then. ****.
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7th Son 7
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:29:00 -
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lol you sumed up my experience yesterday perfectly Ripley, kicked in the dink lmfao
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Templar XIII
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:18:00 -
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Yeah, you summed it up, Minmatar gear is best gear in game across the board, Minmatar FW therefore best and most sought after by q-syncs.
SUITS: MinAss: fastest, most versatile, best regeneration Assault
MinComm: best Commando, period, Versatile, best/broadest damage bonus, fastest heavy
MinScout: second best Scout, fastest scout, most versatile slot wise, only direct damage bonus to OHK weapon PLUS hacking bonus means faster, safer WP generating; all other scouts have no direct impact to WP generating such as this one does.
MinLogi: best logi bonus, two of them: range and HP distribution, best logi, period.
EQUIPMENT: Remote explosive + Repair tool: best, most effective equipment on market, best WP generating, period.
WEAPONS: - CR, ACR: easy to use, solid damage distribution, shields go almost as fast as armor, no drawbacks, no suit dependance for maximum performance...at all. - MD: range domination, suppression, AOE, CQC dominance, almost no personal skill investment Flaylock: see MD - SMG: best overall solid performance sidearm, medium range, beast damage against armor - HMG: speaks for itself, even Amarr have to buy at Minmatar stores here...
MODULES: - Do not matter, never did, in any faction.
The only thing other factions have OVER the Minmatar is Amarr sentinel, Gallente scout, Amarr Scr/AScr (not over, more equal, see drawbacks vs. none at all) and Caldari plus Gallente tank stuff as only they do have tanks. Other suits are good or solid, no belittling intended, but Minmatar is best. Iam just happy faction store does not sport Assault MDs, and Swarm launchers are still in Caldari store, else this would have been overkill.
As long as some of the most valuable equipment and most of it too is being found solely in Minmatar FW store, the situation will not change. simply making Remote explosives non-minmatar but, say Caldari or Gallente tech, or providing locus grenades as Amarr tech and offer it in FW store would have somewhat shifted balance at least a bit, but alas...no. As you can see, not balancing, buffing or nerfing equipment stats, but managing FW store layout for items (reappointment) should suffice to solidify the situation w/o forcing anyone to re-skill. |
Aderek
Made in Poland... E-R-A
130
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:32:00 -
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I play Min because i like be a Min logi, but, i dont buy LP Suit, because it isnt good trade.
Proto rep tool (boundless) isnt good trade (only 2 hp more that six kin), and price about 8k isk...
Proto logi suit cost about 60k isk, LP version 30 k is and 150 LP. In this same time i get more isk on ambush.
I earn LP and wait for minmatar HAVs ;)
So, maybe remove ISK from LP version? That meybe make more people play any FW...
Good day ;)
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MM proto logi
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Balistyc Farshot
The Exemplars
140
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:39:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Even then you still could and most likely will get your $h!t pushed in .
Just awesome! This thread made me laugh so hard. +1 to all the great posts applied.
The amarr used to have the best heavies and would win due to that but since they are strictly AV now you should just strap a tube of KY to your back out of courtesy.
I will buy you a drink before I am finished because I need the repub CR to fit my voids on my PR MinAS.
I moth balled my PR AmarrHV. But the SCR with a AmAS should rock a bit. Just saying.
Now to start shotgunning and REing again, everyone will love this play style. Face Palm!
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1083
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:41:00 -
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While I'd love to rock AFW, 5:00 EvE time is 9-10 PM here on the West Coast.
I'm an early bird.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:43:00 -
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Your theory would be correct if people ran purely racial fits in FW, which they don't.
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Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9050
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:45:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Your theory would be correct if people ran purely racial fits in FW, which they don't. The majority of the suits that I see fighting me are Minmatar. Sure, some are other races, but most are Minatar.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
2000
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:45:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode.
Lol, every AFW has like 4 guys on the field and the rest are in the MCC having a barbecue.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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NIGGSWORM
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
2005
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:45:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode.
Lol, every AFW has like 4 guys on the field and the rest are in the MCC having a barbecue.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:58:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Lol, every AFW has like 4 guys on the field and the rest are in the MCC having a barbecue. Last match it was myself and a squadmate vs. 16. 4 Amarr on the field would have been a blessing.
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
5015
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Posted - 2015.04.10 18:18:00 -
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Don't worry, Triple A is back.
Get scared.
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.04.10 18:58:00 -
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I disagree, it's all a matter of chance no matter what faction you pick, I dabble with all 4 factions and you may run into a qsync at any time, for any side .. I don't see much of a change.
this is 17:00-23:00 ET You never know when a side is syncing - however I avoid time consuming Q-syncs and go with 1 squad It usually means we do a lot of the groundwork capturing/defending points, but with the right blues it is possible to win
- I know a lot of you whine about how cool it is to solo
But, think about it.. would Factions hire lone mercs?? or seek squads/teams to attack/defend land?? They would seek a squad, one-man armies can stay in Public contracts. The Universe is now at peace.
For that reason I think lone mercs should be banned from FW. This way we get help as only squads will be involved..
inb4 - I insist on playing a team based game alone so I play solo - I have a horrible personality so I play solo - My partner beats me for shouting at the TV so I play solo - This guys was mean to me one time so I play solo
Or whatever other reason someone wants to spew, to justify lone mercs taking over/losing land for our Factions
I'm that drunk homeless guy who won't leave..
...Change??
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Sparten 269
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.04.10 19:02:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? Yes.
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
737
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Posted - 2015.04.10 19:04:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:I disagree, it's all a matter of chance no matter what faction you pick, I dabble with all 4 factions and you may run into a qsync at any time, for any side .. I don't see much of a change.
this is 17:00-23:00 ET You never know when a side is syncing - however I avoid time consuming Q-syncs and go with 1 squad It usually means we do a lot of the groundwork capturing/defending points, but with the right blues it is possible to win
- I know a lot of you whine about how cool it is to solo
But, think about it.. would Factions hire lone mercs?? or seek squads/teams to attack/defend land?? They would seek a squad, one-man armies can stay in Public contracts. The Universe is now at peace.
For that reason I think lone mercs should be banned from FW. This way we get help as only squads will be involved..
inb4 - I insist on playing a team based game alone so I play solo - I have a horrible personality so I play solo - My partner beats me for shouting at the TV so I play solo - This guys was mean to me one time so I play solo
Or whatever other reason someone wants to spew, to justify lone mercs taking over/losing land for our Factions
10-4, FW's all yours D1CK
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18146
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Posted - 2015.04.10 20:45:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode. I've played 11 games.
Wins 11 Losses 0
Aero has played a bout 22 games.
Wins 22 Losses 0
We've been up against squads of Warravens, Outer Heaven, Etc.
You guys need to get good.
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And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9055
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Posted - 2015.04.10 20:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode. I've played 11 games. Wins 11 Losses 0 Aero has played a bout 22 games. Wins 22 Losses 0 We've been up against squads of Warravens, Outer Heaven, Etc. You guys need to get good. I have seen the light. It's all so clear now...
Did you have a full squad? Were you queue syncing?
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.04.10 21:22:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode. I've played 11 games. Wins 11 Losses 0 Aero has played a bout 22 games. Wins 22 Losses 0 We've been up against squads of Warravens, Outer Heaven, Etc. You guys need to get good. I have seen the light. It's all so clear now... Did you have a full squad? Were you queue syncing?
6 Matches on Wednesday - Myself and Aero + 4 randomly assigned guys who all turned out to be very good
Apparently Aero and Malleus won about 10 matches on their on the Thursday as well.
5 Matches Yesterday - Myself, Isa, Malleus,Crale +2 guys we met earlier in the week.
We haven't even really gotten around to properly syncing yet.
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
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Templar XIII
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Posted - 2015.04.11 17:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: You guys need to get good.
This and D1CK's comments are nothing but selfrighteous, and most of all: They are wrong.
If you took the time and took a look at the realities, you'd have noticed, that Amarr FW holds roughly 33% of territory, and this is the best it has ever been, thanks to this glorious event.
It is right, that a good, organized squad or two can win any match, but this rule applies to any faction. You and your squad may have nice matches and win, but this is not the case for the rest of Amarr FW participants, and the FW map speaks of it in hard numbers. The fact Amarr holds 33% at best, Minmatar holds 66% tells us that Minmatar has more organized squads and dedicated players. And this is no coincidence:
As I explained before supply and demand are the ruling factors here, and people tend to be pragmatic, opportunistic, even greedy. Had Minmatar store not overwhelmingly more 'nice goods', participation would be more even. Despite this being factional warfare, most people do sign in for quasi aurum and 'specialized' goods, for PC training and others simply jump on the winner's train. Some even sign up for factional/roleplaying reasons, but these may be seen as the unicorns of DUST.
Saying people simply need to get good is nothing but a display of poor character. Good matches need good people and squads, right. But good people and squads need reasons to fight. Minmatar FW store offers more tangible reasons to fight for than the Amarr FW store atm. This too is a fact. FW district holdership is the logical result.
The same rules apply for Gallente vs. Caldari FW.
So please try and be constructive for once.
**Please forgive my english, as Iam no native to this language.** |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9638
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Posted - 2015.04.11 17:27:00 -
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I must be having some crazy good luck because I'm going on around about 10 game win streaks each day. Yesterday I was syncing with one other squad but before that I was squadding with just one corp member.
Amarr are the good guys
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Templar XIII
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Posted - 2015.04.11 17:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I must be having some crazy good luck because I'm going on around about 10 game win streaks each day. Yesterday I was syncing with one other squad but before that I was squadding with just one corp member.
You are right, you are a lucky guy. The FactionWarfare Starmap tell us, a lot others are not.
CCP Ratati and team did a pretty good job with matchmaking mini update and will hopefully improve on it. Now, FW in general needs more balancing out store item allocation to even out incentives to fight for each given faction w/o reigniting the buff/nerf cycle or force re-skilling. |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1924
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Posted - 2015.04.11 17:41:00 -
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Templar XIII wrote:True Adamance wrote: You guys need to get good.
This and D1CK's comments are nothing but selfrighteous, and most of all: They are wrong.
How so?? I don't say you need to get good.. I am saying you should not be able to play FW unless part of a squad or team
How is that any more self righteous than saying 'I want to play FW solo' FW is a mode that not only matters to EVE but to many Dust mercs as well. What faction would hire lone mercs to fight an army?? are you crazy??
This is why FW is unplayable for certain sides at times.. 1 squad cannot beat the squad 2/3 on the enemy side...
If it's self righteous that I want a team-based gamemode where we fight for land to be a TEAM based gamemode then.. I'm guilty
I want FW to have squads active.. so teams can actually fight... Opposed to the current.. 1 team vs 1 rag-tag collection of LP farmers
tl;dr If you can't play in a team. stay in Pubs
I'm that drunk homeless guy who won't leave..
...Change??
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VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound RUST415
276
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Posted - 2015.04.11 18:20:00 -
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once amar r on a point there hard to move off . why you have minny heavy assaults .
asian haters united lol .
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VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound RUST415
276
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Posted - 2015.04.11 18:23:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Your theory would be correct if people ran purely racial fits in FW, which they don't. The majority of the suits that I see fighting me are Minmatar. Sure, some are other races, but most are Minmatar. Which only makes sense. When you win for a faction you earn that faction's LP, which in turn allows you to purchase that faction's gear. Seeing people in Minmatar gear when they are fighting for the Minmatar is expected and encouraged. i love seeing this . i always try to run same gear as fw im in . just feels right
asian haters united lol .
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1291
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Posted - 2015.04.11 18:24:00 -
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I find it annoying when i see a proto caldari assaullt on the other side
I know you wan't it ( -í° -£-û -í°)
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Templar XIII
145
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Posted - 2015.04.11 18:37:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Templar XIII wrote:True Adamance wrote: You guys need to get good.
This and D1CK's comments are nothing but selfrighteous, and most of all: They are wrong. How so?? I don't say you need to get good.. I want FW to have squads active.. so teams can actually fight... Opposed to the current.. 1 team vs 1 rag-tag collection of LP farmers tl;dr If you can't play in a team. stay in Pubs
You argument on basis of Amarr having too many solos, and you assume I like to go solo and do so most of the time? So wrong, my friend.
You should not ask, why Amarr have so many solos, you should ask, why they do not have as many organized squads. And believe me, it does surely have nothing to do with being pro-fictional-race-Amarr having any impact on personal play preference or socializing skills. It has to do with lack of incentive for squads and corps to indulge.
But you are right in not being self-righteous, as True was meant with this. You my friend are simply guilty of being short-sighted. |
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
2673
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Posted - 2015.04.11 18:43:00 -
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VALCORE72 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Your theory would be correct if people ran purely racial fits in FW, which they don't. The majority of the suits that I see fighting me are Minmatar. Sure, some are other races, but most are Minmatar. Which only makes sense. When you win for a faction you earn that faction's LP, which in turn allows you to purchase that faction's gear. Seeing people in Minmatar gear when they are fighting for the Minmatar is expected and encouraged. i love seeing this . i always try to run same gear as fw im in . just feels right I think you're the minority...
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Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9083
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Posted - 2015.04.11 21:11:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I think you're the minority... I also run the faction appropriate gear. It's more common that you think it is.
I wish it gear was locked to Caldari/Amarr vs. Gallente/Minmatar... assuming the gear was even remotely balanced.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.11 21:18:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:I think you're the minority... I also run the faction appropriate gear. It's more common that you think it is. I wish it gear was locked to Caldari/Amarr vs. Gallente/Minmatar... assuming the gear was even remotely balanced. Or characters were locked or had a greater penalty when fighting for other factions.
This help even out the mode some.
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Aisha Ctarl
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Posted - 2015.04.11 21:20:00 -
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Templar XIII wrote:True Adamance wrote: You guys need to get good.
This and D1CK's comments are nothing but selfrighteous, and most of all: They are wrong. If you took the time and took a look at the realities, you'd have noticed, that Amarr FW holds roughly 33% of territory, and this is the best it has ever been, thanks to this glorious event. It is right, that a good, organized squad or two can win any match, but this rule applies to any faction. You and your squad may have nice matches and win, but this is not the case for the rest of Amarr FW participants, and the FW map speaks of it in hard numbers. The fact Amarr holds 33% at best, Minmatar holds 66% tells us that Minmatar has more organized squads and dedicated players. And this is no coincidence: As I explained before supply and demand are the ruling factors here, and people tend to be pragmatic, opportunistic, even greedy. Had Minmatar store not overwhelmingly more 'nice goods', participation would be more even. Despite this being factional warfare, most people do sign in for quasi aurum and 'specialized' goods, for PC training and others simply jump on the winner's train. Some even sign up for factional/roleplaying reasons, but these may be seen as the unicorns of DUST. Saying people simply need to get good is nothing but a display of poor character. Good matches need good people and squads, right. But good people and squads need reasons to fight. Minmatar FW store offers more tangible reasons to fight for than the Amarr FW store atm. This too is a fact. FW district holdership is the logical result. The same rules apply for Gallente vs. Caldari FW. So please try and be constructive for once. **Please forgive my english, as Iam no native to this language.**
How dare you speak to a member of Triple A like that!
*smacks you*
Proud member of Triple A. #rollingold
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.04.11 21:48:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:I disagree, it's all a matter of chance no matter what faction you pick, I dabble with all 4 factions and you may run into a qsync at any time, for any side .. I don't see much of a change.
this is 17:00-23:00 ET You never know when a side is syncing - however I avoid time consuming Q-syncs and go with 1 squad It usually means we do a lot of the groundwork capturing/defending points, but with the right blues it is possible to win
- I know a lot of you whine about how cool it is to solo
But, think about it.. would Factions hire lone mercs?? or seek squads/teams to attack/defend land?? They would seek a squad, one-man armies can stay in Public contracts. The Universe is now at peace.
For that reason I think lone mercs should be banned from FW. This way we get help as only squads will be involved..
inb4 - I insist on playing a team based game alone so I play solo - I have a horrible personality so I play solo - My partner beats me for shouting at the TV so I play solo - This guys was mean to me one time so I play solo
Or whatever other reason someone wants to spew, to justify lone mercs taking over/losing land for our Factions
So is there any place for the solo player? Pubs sure aren't it, neither is FW, and of course not PC.
This is the reason why there are so few people who play dust. Look at eve, it took between 6-7 years before there were more players in low-sec/null-sec than high-sec. If you make a game, even if it is MMO, you need to have solo content. Dust has none. It is squad up or get lost.
We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit upgrades because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.04.11 21:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode. I've played 11 games. Wins 11 Losses 0 Aero has played a bout 22 games. Wins 22 Losses 0 We've been up against squads of Warravens, Outer Heaven, Etc. You guys need to get good. I have seen the light. It's all so clear now... Did you have a full squad? Were you queue syncing? 6 Matches on Wednesday - Myself and Aero + 4 randomly assigned guys who all turned out to be very good Apparently Aero and Malleus won about 10 matches on their on the Thursday as well. 5 Matches Yesterday - Myself, Isa, Malleus,Crale +2 guys we met earlier in the week. We haven't even really gotten around to properly syncing yet.
True you are delusional. Look at the FW ownership maps, it is pretty clear that amarr/caldari constantly get destroyed. You play during Dust's low-time, in a very specific time-zone. Outside of that Amarr FW is absolutely horrible.
If you want a decent metric, ask CCP Ratatti the total LP earned per faction... I would be will to bet that minmatar/gallente FW is an order of magnitude higher than caldari/amarr. This would indicate a completely broken system. Just because you can find a squad or two to stomp FW in off-hours, doesn't mean it is balanced. Haven't you ever heard of observational bias?
We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit upgrades because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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nelo kazuma
1.U.P Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.04.11 21:55:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Even then you still could and most likely will get your $h!t pushed in . Nope me n my fellow cal are doing it n were winning just tasks initiative |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.11 22:07:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode. I've played 11 games. Wins 11 Losses 0 Aero has played a bout 22 games. Wins 22 Losses 0 We've been up against squads of Warravens, Outer Heaven, Etc. You guys need to get good. I have seen the light. It's all so clear now... Did you have a full squad? Were you queue syncing? 6 Matches on Wednesday - Myself and Aero + 4 randomly assigned guys who all turned out to be very good Apparently Aero and Malleus won about 10 matches on their on the Thursday as well. 5 Matches Yesterday - Myself, Isa, Malleus,Crale +2 guys we met earlier in the week. We haven't even really gotten around to properly syncing yet. True you are delusional. Look at the FW ownership maps, it is pretty clear that amarr/caldari constantly get destroyed. You play during Dust's low-time, in a very specific time-zone. Outside of that Amarr FW is absolutely horrible. If you want a decent metric, ask CCP Ratatti the total LP earned per faction... I would be will to bet that minmatar/gallente FW is an order of magnitude higher than caldari/amarr. This would indicate a completely broken system. Just because you can find a squad or two to stomp FW in off-hours, doesn't mean it is balanced. Haven't you ever heard of observational bias?
Mate just because our squads and syncs are winning doesn't mean anyone else is pulling thumb out of ass. We can win our fights all day every day but PCLAS and the syncs we work with are the only ones doing it and we're doing it during the FW popular hours as well as off.
Some of the best matches we've been having are against sync'd groups of players because they can actually bring more to the table because they care about winning.
I'm not saying that were doing better than our opposition because we are not. We're a less popular faction with a directly attributed smaller player base to draw from so we do not cannot do what the other factions do and draw on multiple squads around the clock. However that's not the say the Minmatar teams we've come up against are good, we've fought three teams this weekend actually worth a damn.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.04.11 23:16:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00. I wonder what 5:00 EVE time is in Central... Midnight I'm central too and it sucks, but that matches are so much better.
F*ck it. I'll hop on at midnight.
FOR THE MINMATAR
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poopy pantzs
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.11 23:26:00 -
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Corps treat Amarr FW the exact same as PC. So no thank you.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.11 23:35:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00. I wonder what 5:00 EVE time is in Central... Midnight I'm central too and it sucks, but that matches are so much better. F*ck it. I'll hop on at midnight. FOR THE MINMATAR Please do. Me want fight u.
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And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2015.04.11 23:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00. I wonder what 5:00 EVE time is in Central... Midnight I'm central too and it sucks, but that matches are so much better. F*ck it. I'll hop on at midnight. FOR THE MINMATAR Please do. Me want fight u. Kick his skirt wearing ass Ghost!!
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.04.12 11:18:00 -
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Templar XIII wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Templar XIII wrote:True Adamance wrote: You guys need to get good.
This and D1CK's comments are nothing but selfrighteous, and most of all: They are wrong. How so?? I don't say you need to get good.. I want FW to have squads active.. so teams can actually fight... Opposed to the current.. 1 team vs 1 rag-tag collection of LP farmers tl;dr If you can't play in a team. stay in Pubs You argument on basis of Amarr having too many solos, and you assume I like to go solo and do so most of the time? So wrong, my friend. You should not ask, why Amarr have so many solos, you should ask, why they do not have as many organized squads. And believe me, it does surely have nothing to do with being pro-fictional-race-Amarr having any impact on personal play preference or socializing skills. It has to do with lack of incentive for squads and corps to indulge. With squads I do not speak of what you find in channels such as PIE GC or Amarr One, they could as well be randoms and solos, as they do not communicate at all on the battlefield despite being in one voice channel, and they behave solo despite having joined a squad, even if given objectives to defend. But you are right in not being self-righteous, as True was meant with this. You my friend are simply guilty of being short-sighted. **Sorry, if some sentences sound a bit awkward, this is not my native tongue.**
My argument is - Factions should not have solo players deploying
Yes it's how it has been.. but it leaves FW as a mode where most mercs just farm LP, they don't care for fights - I'd much rather it was based on being part of the team, and helping factions gain land..
And ALL factions have these solo mercs.. Not just the Amarr Sometimes it might be a player trying to help the team.. but more often it is someone who AFK's after 1 death and farms some LP along with it
I have seen your points on Amarr having less items = less players But you are forgetting that a lot of Vets fight for them, they are not a weak side
The problem is team layouts
1 squad + 10 randoms is at a big disadvantage fighting 2 squads + 4 randoms
I get that solo mercs need a gamemode.. but I do not agree that it should be FW we are taking/defending land for factions, it should take more thought than, just hitting deploy
I'm that drunk homeless guy who won't leave..
...Change??
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.12 11:34:00 -
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Don't care about being self righteous. If we want to win then we simply have to try harder. As a militia there is not use bitching about how we're losing. Rather than doing so we need to working harder to ensure we are a more cohesive and skilled player base and more importantly one that does not give up solely because things are difficult.
If nothing else we need to ensure every fight is hard fought and that if ground is given the enemy team bleeds for it. Honestly my antagonistic stance comes purely from the fact that it seems more often than not our guys are more taken to complaining about the situation than doing something about it.
C'mon guys we went through this in 2013. We either harden the **** up or get face rolled as we [Min and Amarr Militia's] spent time exchanging WZ dominance.
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Hawkings Greenback
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Posted - 2015.04.12 12:18:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote: inb4 - I have a horrible personality so I play solo
. . . but, but, but i do have a horrible personality
inb4 - get gud skrubbb
But every night I burn.
Screaming the animal scream.
Every night I burn.
Dreaming the crow-black dream.
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
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Posted - 2015.04.12 12:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode. I've played 11 games. Wins 11 Losses 0 Aero has played a bout 22 games. Wins 22 Losses 0 We've been up against squads of Warravens, Outer Heaven, Etc. You guys need to get good.
You got lucky with some of those - my squad on the other side had put bounties on random mercs and were chasing them round the battles. We didn't notice we were losing til the nice Dust lady pointed it out as the mcc exploded :<
And no, q-syncs don't always help. I've been in a match where we redlined 15 guys from the same corp In Amarr FW before. They held their closest objective for less than a minute before being pushed back. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.12 18:40:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode. I've played 11 games. Wins 11 Losses 0 Aero has played a bout 22 games. Wins 22 Losses 0 We've been up against squads of Warravens, Outer Heaven, Etc. You guys need to get good. You got lucky with some of those - my squad on the other side had put bounties on random mercs and were chasing them round the battles. We didn't notice we were losing til the nice Dust lady pointed it out as the mcc exploded :< And no, q-syncs don't always help. I've been in a match where we redlined 15 guys from the same corp In Amarr FW before. They held their closest objective for less than a minute before being pushed back.
Saw you in a battle but I don't believe "we were placing bounties on your team" is a good enough reason for loosing.
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
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Posted - 2015.04.12 18:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode. I've played 11 games. Wins 11 Losses 0 Aero has played a bout 22 games. Wins 22 Losses 0 We've been up against squads of Warravens, Outer Heaven, Etc. You guys need to get good. You got lucky with some of those - my squad on the other side had put bounties on random mercs and were chasing them round the battles. We didn't notice we were losing til the nice Dust lady pointed it out as the mcc exploded :< And no, q-syncs don't always help. I've been in a match where we redlined 15 guys from the same corp In Amarr FW before. They held their closest objective for less than a minute before being pushed back. Saw you in a battle but I don't believe "we were placing bounties on your team" is a good enough reason for loosing.
I know, but it did mean that 6 of us were running around trying to kill the same 3 people all match, and contributed very little. There may have been multiple drunk members involved, and I'd had more than a safe amount of sugar.
I did make several million isk off the bounties though xD |
Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.04.16 17:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00. I wonder what 5:00 EVE time is in Central... Midnight I'm central too and it sucks, but that matches are so much better. F*ck it. I'll hop on at midnight. FOR THE MINMATAR Please do. Me want fight u.
I'm sorry, I ended up studying practically all weekend (And most of this week).
I just took the hardest test of my life two hours ago. Got 18 out of 31 on multiple choice and did above average and was told I did well.
Haven't even gotten to see the short answer yet. We were told we need to redefine our definitions of success.
Freaking Organic Chemistry.
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Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
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