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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.10 12:28:00 -
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Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode.
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
733
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Posted - 2015.04.10 12:42:00 -
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+1 kicked in the dink |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1945
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Posted - 2015.04.10 12:56:00 -
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Even then you still could and most likely will get your $h!t pushed in .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
331
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Posted - 2015.04.10 12:59:00 -
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Suck it, slaver!!!
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9022
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:11:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Even then you still could and most likely will get your $h!t pushed in. I have a theory on why that is...
Minmatar dropsuits are the fastest dropsuits on the field; highest walk/strafe and sprint. They regen stamina the fastest too.
They also receive innate hacking speed bonuses. The scout gets an additional hacking speed bonus from dropsuit command ON TOP of the innate bonus. They also receive the most lethal service rifle in game right now: CR.
Meanwhile, the Amarr are the slowest dropsuits, with a weapon that has little stopping power against armor, and no hacking bonuses.
Early in the match the Minmatar are able to quickly hack the objectives and installations before the Amarr can field their forces. This gives them a great early-game lead.
So I guess the Amarr need to switch to Minmatar tech so they can compete That seems... silly and poorly designed, if I am being completely honest.
Bremen van Equis wrote:Suck it, slaver!!! Mommy and daddy are talking. Please don't interrupt.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1947
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:31:00 -
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I think your on to something Double R , as I look at the matches that I've played in it seems to happen the exact same way that you mentioned .
Plays out the same way .
Speed kills and their coordinated as frack as well .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3352
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:37:00 -
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Minmatar are righteous! Death to the Slaver scum!
But yea man Amarr have a pretty tough time but the last time we had an event like this, the Amarr actually put up some incredible teams. You guys need to get organised again.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3352
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:39:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Even then you still could and most likely will get your $h!t pushed in. I have a theory on why that is... Minmatar dropsuits are the fastest dropsuits on the field; highest walk/strafe and sprint. They regen stamina the fastest too. They also receive innate hacking speed bonuses. The scout gets an additional hacking speed bonus from dropsuit command ON TOP of the innate bonus. They also receive the most lethal service rifle in game right now: CR. Meanwhile, the Amarr are the slowest dropsuits, with a weapon that has little stopping power against armor, and no hacking bonuses. Early in the match the Minmatar are able to quickly hack the objectives and installations before the Amarr can field their forces. This gives them a great early-game lead. So I guess the Amarr need to switch to Minmatar tech so they can compete That seems... silly and poorly designed, if I am being completely honest. Bremen van Equis wrote:Suck it, slaver!!! Mommy and daddy are talking. Please don't interrupt.
Except that people dont and are not forced to run racial fits.......
I for one run a Caldari Assault with a plasma cannon for Minmatar a lot of the time. Unless you are talking about bpo`s / Apex suits but then I would just lol.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9025
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:39:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Speed kills and their coordinated as frack as well. The Minmatar meta (MinAssault + MD, MinAssault + SG, MinAssault + CR) has encouraged a lot of players to migrate to Minmatar FW to earn the FotM APEX and other gear. Add to that, the repair tool is the logi's bread and butter, and it is only available from the Minmatar FW store.
It's classic Strategic Dominance. They are running Min FW because it earns them the gear that works the best in every other gamemode.
CommanderBolt wrote:Except that people don't and are not forced to run racial fits.......
I for one run a Caldari Assault with a plasma cannon for Minmatar a lot of the time. Unless you are talking about bpo`s / Apex suits but then I would just lol. I see Minmatar gear when fighting opposite the Minmatar. Things like the CR, SMG, MD, and MinAssault.
It's not rocket science. Minmatar FW awards Minmatar LP which buys Minmatar gear...
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
6148
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Posted - 2015.04.10 15:14:00 -
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Makes me sad I can't be there to wipe the floor with your skulls
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1082
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Posted - 2015.04.10 15:15:00 -
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Don't get me wrong, I've seen some solid AmarrFW Q-syncs lately. But only Q-syncs are the ones that win. And they are mostly the ones composed of proto-ed out corporation squads, not loyalist squads like with you, Nocturnal, or True.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9615
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Posted - 2015.04.10 15:50:00 -
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5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00.
Amarr are the good guys
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9041
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:02:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00. I wonder what 5:00 EVE time is in Central...
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9615
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:10:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:5:00 EVE time is when the Amarr shine. I've been doing that for the past few days, queuing solo, and winning each match. It's not like we're going up against nobody either, there's still Minmatar syncs, but all the Amarr blue berries are sleeping so the Amarr side only gets competent players.
Sitting at 175k Imperial Guard LP, nearly all of it after 5:00. I wonder what 5:00 EVE time is in Central... Midnight
I'm central too and it sucks, but that matches are so much better.
Amarr are the good guys
Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:18:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Midnight I'm central too and it sucks, but that matches are so much better. Well then. ****.
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:29:00 -
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lol you sumed up my experience yesterday perfectly Ripley, kicked in the dink lmfao
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Templar XIII
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:18:00 -
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Yeah, you summed it up, Minmatar gear is best gear in game across the board, Minmatar FW therefore best and most sought after by q-syncs.
SUITS: MinAss: fastest, most versatile, best regeneration Assault
MinComm: best Commando, period, Versatile, best/broadest damage bonus, fastest heavy
MinScout: second best Scout, fastest scout, most versatile slot wise, only direct damage bonus to OHK weapon PLUS hacking bonus means faster, safer WP generating; all other scouts have no direct impact to WP generating such as this one does.
MinLogi: best logi bonus, two of them: range and HP distribution, best logi, period.
EQUIPMENT: Remote explosive + Repair tool: best, most effective equipment on market, best WP generating, period.
WEAPONS: - CR, ACR: easy to use, solid damage distribution, shields go almost as fast as armor, no drawbacks, no suit dependance for maximum performance...at all. - MD: range domination, suppression, AOE, CQC dominance, almost no personal skill investment Flaylock: see MD - SMG: best overall solid performance sidearm, medium range, beast damage against armor - HMG: speaks for itself, even Amarr have to buy at Minmatar stores here...
MODULES: - Do not matter, never did, in any faction.
The only thing other factions have OVER the Minmatar is Amarr sentinel, Gallente scout, Amarr Scr/AScr (not over, more equal, see drawbacks vs. none at all) and Caldari plus Gallente tank stuff as only they do have tanks. Other suits are good or solid, no belittling intended, but Minmatar is best. Iam just happy faction store does not sport Assault MDs, and Swarm launchers are still in Caldari store, else this would have been overkill.
As long as some of the most valuable equipment and most of it too is being found solely in Minmatar FW store, the situation will not change. simply making Remote explosives non-minmatar but, say Caldari or Gallente tech, or providing locus grenades as Amarr tech and offer it in FW store would have somewhat shifted balance at least a bit, but alas...no. As you can see, not balancing, buffing or nerfing equipment stats, but managing FW store layout for items (reappointment) should suffice to solidify the situation w/o forcing anyone to re-skill. |
Aderek
Made in Poland... E-R-A
130
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:32:00 -
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I play Min because i like be a Min logi, but, i dont buy LP Suit, because it isnt good trade.
Proto rep tool (boundless) isnt good trade (only 2 hp more that six kin), and price about 8k isk...
Proto logi suit cost about 60k isk, LP version 30 k is and 150 LP. In this same time i get more isk on ambush.
I earn LP and wait for minmatar HAVs ;)
So, maybe remove ISK from LP version? That meybe make more people play any FW...
Good day ;)
dust514.pl, wcogram.pl, i-play24.net
MM proto logi
60 kk SP and growing
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Balistyc Farshot
The Exemplars
140
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:39:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Even then you still could and most likely will get your $h!t pushed in .
Just awesome! This thread made me laugh so hard. +1 to all the great posts applied.
The amarr used to have the best heavies and would win due to that but since they are strictly AV now you should just strap a tube of KY to your back out of courtesy.
I will buy you a drink before I am finished because I need the repub CR to fit my voids on my PR MinAS.
I moth balled my PR AmarrHV. But the SCR with a AmAS should rock a bit. Just saying.
Now to start shotgunning and REing again, everyone will love this play style. Face Palm!
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1083
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:41:00 -
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While I'd love to rock AFW, 5:00 EvE time is 9-10 PM here on the West Coast.
I'm an early bird.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
2645
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:43:00 -
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Your theory would be correct if people ran purely racial fits in FW, which they don't.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm a monster
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9050
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:45:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Your theory would be correct if people ran purely racial fits in FW, which they don't. The majority of the suits that I see fighting me are Minmatar. Sure, some are other races, but most are Minatar.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
2000
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:45:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode.
Lol, every AFW has like 4 guys on the field and the rest are in the MCC having a barbecue.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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NIGGSWORM
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
2005
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:45:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode.
Lol, every AFW has like 4 guys on the field and the rest are in the MCC having a barbecue.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9051
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:58:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Lol, every AFW has like 4 guys on the field and the rest are in the MCC having a barbecue. Last match it was myself and a squadmate vs. 16. 4 Amarr on the field would have been a blessing.
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
5015
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Posted - 2015.04.10 18:18:00 -
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Don't worry, Triple A is back.
Get scared.
Scrambling brains since 5/14/13
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1915
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Posted - 2015.04.10 18:58:00 -
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I disagree, it's all a matter of chance no matter what faction you pick, I dabble with all 4 factions and you may run into a qsync at any time, for any side .. I don't see much of a change.
this is 17:00-23:00 ET You never know when a side is syncing - however I avoid time consuming Q-syncs and go with 1 squad It usually means we do a lot of the groundwork capturing/defending points, but with the right blues it is possible to win
- I know a lot of you whine about how cool it is to solo
But, think about it.. would Factions hire lone mercs?? or seek squads/teams to attack/defend land?? They would seek a squad, one-man armies can stay in Public contracts. The Universe is now at peace.
For that reason I think lone mercs should be banned from FW. This way we get help as only squads will be involved..
inb4 - I insist on playing a team based game alone so I play solo - I have a horrible personality so I play solo - My partner beats me for shouting at the TV so I play solo - This guys was mean to me one time so I play solo
Or whatever other reason someone wants to spew, to justify lone mercs taking over/losing land for our Factions
I'm that drunk homeless guy who won't leave..
...Change??
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Sparten 269
Horizons' Edge
100
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Posted - 2015.04.10 19:02:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? Yes.
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
737
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Posted - 2015.04.10 19:04:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:I disagree, it's all a matter of chance no matter what faction you pick, I dabble with all 4 factions and you may run into a qsync at any time, for any side .. I don't see much of a change.
this is 17:00-23:00 ET You never know when a side is syncing - however I avoid time consuming Q-syncs and go with 1 squad It usually means we do a lot of the groundwork capturing/defending points, but with the right blues it is possible to win
- I know a lot of you whine about how cool it is to solo
But, think about it.. would Factions hire lone mercs?? or seek squads/teams to attack/defend land?? They would seek a squad, one-man armies can stay in Public contracts. The Universe is now at peace.
For that reason I think lone mercs should be banned from FW. This way we get help as only squads will be involved..
inb4 - I insist on playing a team based game alone so I play solo - I have a horrible personality so I play solo - My partner beats me for shouting at the TV so I play solo - This guys was mean to me one time so I play solo
Or whatever other reason someone wants to spew, to justify lone mercs taking over/losing land for our Factions
10-4, FW's all yours D1CK
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18146
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Posted - 2015.04.10 20:45:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alright, so Amarr FW is like drinking molten lead while simultaneously getting kicked in the dink.
Is the only solution to queue sync an entire team of blues? That seems like the only way to earn a victory in this godforsaken gamemode. I've played 11 games.
Wins 11 Losses 0
Aero has played a bout 22 games.
Wins 22 Losses 0
We've been up against squads of Warravens, Outer Heaven, Etc.
You guys need to get good.
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
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