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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.07 16:07:00 -
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There is a distinct possibility that we will have dropsuit skins in the near-ish future. Maybe... probably.
This is CCP we're talking about so we can never be sure anything will happen. Work with me here.
Let's suppose that skins do become a thing. Assuming skins are organized by [Size] [Race] [Skin Color]... Medium Amarr Navy for example. Also assume they will be BPO's. How much would you pay for a single skin?
I would not not pay more than 4000 AUR ($1.99 USD) per skin. Thoughts?
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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The Modern Creature
Incorruptibles
17
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Posted - 2015.04.07 16:15:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:There is a distinct possibility that we will have dropsuit skins in the near-ish future. Maybe... probably.
This is CCP we're talking about so we can never be sure anything will happen. Work with me here.
Let's suppose that skins do become a thing. Assuming skins are organized by [Size] [Race] [Skin Color]... Medium Amarr Navy for example. Also assume they will be BPO's. How much would you pay for a single skin?
I would not not pay more than 4000 AUR ($1.99 USD) per skin. Thoughts?
I'd say the Navy skins should be LP store only, like 30,000LP and 250,000 ISK. But for regular skins I think 4000 AUR would be right. Quafe skins however... Boxes.
Attention passengers I will be your captain for the evening, I'm sure we won't run into any swarms but just inc- JUMP!!!
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1042
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Posted - 2015.04.07 16:21:00 -
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I wouldn't
I might get some from LP store , but just like in eve with the nexus store.. I didn't buy any of them either. I ran around finding them through exploration , that would be bad ass to do something like that in dust..but that vision and many others will never be realized sadly. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3677
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Posted - 2015.04.07 16:29:00 -
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It is hard to determine an acceptable price.
In League of Legends, you can see your character so the skin being 5, 10, 20 dollars is something that people can generally find some acceptance with.
For DUST, you are only going to see it when you are in your quarter, your friends won't see it for being able to show off, and the person trying to kill you doesn't give a stinky turd what you look like as the battles are too fast to go "That guy has a Caldari Navy skin!" My favorited skin is the Caldari 'Raven' Assault with an Exile Assault Rifle and NOTHING else in it. I call it Cheeves. It only exists if I want to call in a vehicle as a cheap suit and because I love the white, digital camouflage on it. If that was a skin, what do I care if my enemies see it; I already 'got mine'.*
It is the same problem in EVE. Aside from you, the only way people are going to see your vanity items is if you snapshot them in your profile picture. Pretty easy if it is the Looking Glass Ocular Implant (monocle), which goes for roughly 70 dollars worth of Aurum. But for something like Men's Commando Pants, which is about 15 dollars worth of Aurum, it isn't as easy.
* maybe that is the reason I am a terrible lover...
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
General Tso's Alliance
213
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Posted - 2015.04.07 16:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:There is a distinct possibility that we will have dropsuit skins in the near-ish future. Maybe... probably.
This is CCP we're talking about so we can never be sure anything will happen. Work with me here.
Let's suppose that skins do become a thing. Assuming skins are organized by [Size] [Race] [Skin Color]... Medium Amarr Navy for example. Also assume they will be BPO's. How much would you pay for a single skin?
I would not not pay more than 4000 AUR ($1.99 USD) per skin. Thoughts?
Under the premise that it would be superficial only $1.99USD sounds fair. |
Avallo Kantor
604
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Posted - 2015.04.07 16:43:00 -
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I suppose that depends on the quality and selection.
Right now BPOs are roughly 20k AUR, and after already having a BPO of my chosen frame any others would just be purely visual changes.
For example, I don't mind the idea of there being "premium" skins such as the FW-only Navy SKINS, or higher-end SKINS for 10 - 20k AUR. (Think the complex patterns on some suits)
If they can develop tons of very simple recolors, those I'd be willing to pay more like 2 - 3k AUR for. (Think an Amarr where the gold was replaced with Silver or Bronze) |
The Modern Creature
Incorruptibles
17
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Posted - 2015.04.07 16:51:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:It is hard to determine an acceptable price.
In League of Legends, you can see your character so the skin being 5, 10, 20 dollars is something that people can generally find some acceptance with.
For DUST, you are only going to see it when you are in your quarter, your friends won't see it for being able to show off, and the person trying to kill you doesn't give a stinky turd what you look like as the battles are too fast to go "That guy has a Caldari Navy skin!" My favorited skin is the Caldari 'Raven' Assault with an Exile Assault Rifle and NOTHING else in it. I call it Cheeves. It only exists if I want to call in a vehicle as a cheap suit and because I love the white, digital camouflage on it. If that was a skin, what do I care if my enemies see it; I already 'got mine'.*
It is the same problem in EVE. Aside from you, the only way people are going to see your vanity items is if you snapshot them in your profile picture. Pretty easy if it is the Looking Glass Ocular Implant (monocle), which goes for roughly 70 dollars worth of Aurum. But for something like Men's Commando Pants, which is about 15 dollars worth of Aurum, it isn't as easy.
* maybe that is the reason I am a terrible lover...
You don't get to see your character in TF2 but they have a whole economy about hats and other pieces of eye candy. The only time you get to see it is when you die or taunt.
Attention passengers I will be your captain for the evening, I'm sure we won't run into any swarms but just inc- JUMP!!!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8914
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:24:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:Under the premise that it would be superficial only $1.99USD sounds fair. Skins would be 100% cosmetic. Dropsuit BPOs provide the player with a small advantage: a free dropsuit. Skins do absolutely nothing except make you look a bit different.
I should also mention that some of the skins would be available from their respective LP stores for a hefty price, much the same way we see APEX dropsuits.
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
271
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:38:00 -
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25k LP
"You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8915
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:40:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:25k LP Does that mean you would not pay aurum for it?
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
271
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:43:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Regnier Feros wrote:25k LP Does that mean you would not pay aurum for it?
Yes, I wouldn't pay aurum
"You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
718
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:51:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:There is a distinct possibility that we will have dropsuit skins in the near-ish future. Maybe... probably.
This is CCP we're talking about so we can never be sure anything will happen. Work with me here.
Let's suppose that skins do become a thing. Assuming skins are organized by [Size] [Race] [Skin Color]... Medium Amarr Navy for example. Also assume they will be BPO's. How much would you pay for a single skin?
I would not not pay more than 4000 AUR ($1.99 USD) per skin. Thoughts?
Honestly after as money as i've spent on this game, they could probably charge 5-10 dollars and I will still buy it, let me tell you why. When something is for sale in the Marketplace my first thought is "that's too much no way". Then guess what I do? guess what I ****** do? I end up buyin that gosh darn ***** anyway  lol. So hopefully not too many people that play Dust think like me.............. jeez 
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Harry Bawlss
Fatal Absolution
240
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:54:00 -
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Shouldn't pay for skins. Should be something to earn. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8916
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:06:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Honestly after as money as i've spent on this game, they could probably charge 5-10 dollars and I will still buy it, let me tell you why. When something is for sale in the Marketplace my first thought is "that's too much no way". Then guess what I do? guess what I ****** do? I end up buyin that gosh darn ***** anyway lol. So hopefully not too many people that play Dust think like me.............. jeez It happens to the best of us. There are times when I think Dust should be investigated and have regulations put on it like a controlled narcotic.
Harry Bawlss wrote:Shouldn't pay for skins. Should be something to earn. Why? Cheap, purely cosmetic purchases are great ways to keep a F2P funded and devs employed. A whole helluva lot better than dropsuit BPOs.
Also, I said in an earlier post that you can optionally earn the skins in the LP store for each faction. That allows people who can't / won't buy aurum to still earn a skin.
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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MrBlobz
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:08:00 -
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Harry Bawlss wrote:Shouldn't pay for skins. Should be something to earn.
Skins are the least scummy way for a company to monetize a free to play game. If this was a full price game I would agree with you, but not for F2P.
I'd probably pay 5 dollars, but I think if CCP made them more like 1 or 2 dollars I'd end up spending more in the long run. |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3310
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:37:00 -
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It entirely depends how they work precisely and more importantly how do they look!
Aurum wise I would expect that they would be a little more expensive than a mere 4k aurum but there are many possibilities to have LP ones for the factions.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:41:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:It entirely depends how they work precisely and more importantly how do they look!
Aurum wise I would expect that they would be a little more expensive than a mere 4k aurum but there are many possibilities to have LP ones for the factions. In my mind, there would be a special slot in the fitting window that would accept a skin module. These skin modules can be moved around in the same way any other module can.
Of course, I am speculating.
If CCP keeps with the primary colors of the navy factions in Eve Online then these skins should look pretty nice. I see your point though.
Something we haven't considered yet: what if CCP made these skins BPCs. 4000 AUR for 1000 Medium Amarr Navy skins or something like that. I have to say I would probably not purchase skins if they were BPCs. Would anyone else?
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8918
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:54:00 -
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MrBlobz wrote:I'd probably pay 5 dollars, but I think if CCP made them more like 1 or 2 dollars I'd end up spending more in the long run. With cosmetic items like this the cheaper CCP can afford to make them, the better. You want new players who have played a week to look at the market and see something they can easily justify spending money on with a very low price point.
Look at League of Legends and their champion skins. I have played maybe 10 hours of LoL but I still bought a Nexus skin just because he looked badass and it was pocket change.
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3684
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:56:00 -
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The Modern Creature wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:It is hard to determine an acceptable price.
In League of Legends, you can see your character so the skin being 5, 10, 20 dollars is something that people can generally find some acceptance with.
For DUST, you are only going to see it when you are in your quarter, your friends won't see it for being able to show off, and the person trying to kill you doesn't give a stinky turd what you look like as the battles are too fast to go "That guy has a Caldari Navy skin!" My favorited skin is the Caldari 'Raven' Assault with an Exile Assault Rifle and NOTHING else in it. I call it Cheeves. It only exists if I want to call in a vehicle as a cheap suit and because I love the white, digital camouflage on it. If that was a skin, what do I care if my enemies see it; I already 'got mine'.*
It is the same problem in EVE. Aside from you, the only way people are going to see your vanity items is if you snapshot them in your profile picture. Pretty easy if it is the Looking Glass Ocular Implant (monocle), which goes for roughly 70 dollars worth of Aurum. But for something like Men's Commando Pants, which is about 15 dollars worth of Aurum, it isn't as easy.
* maybe that is the reason I am a terrible lover... You don't get to see your character in TF2 but they have a whole economy about hats and other pieces of eye candy. The only time you get to see it is when you die or taunt.
Few things about TF2 though:
1. Your teammates will generally see it more as character model are bigger.
2. Hats add more than just a recoloring of a dropsuit. Heavy with a Football helmet over a Scout that is purple.
3. The opponent sees it perfectly when you kill them through the "killer snapshot."
4. The items are seen whenever you choose the load out.
5. The pre-game start lets you show it off.
I think these differences make for, well, a different kind of beast though TF2 is a good counter-example to my point. My main problem is that CCP has priced things really crazy high. At least League of Legends gives you a skin and a new splash page and, depending on the price, new particle effects and voice acting. Dunno if "digital camo assault" can keep up with hats or LoL skins. Will be interesting to see, assuming it happens.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6973
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:58:00 -
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Probably nothing because I have my Quafe. Unless... I can bring their old fabulousness back... |
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3311
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:59:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:It entirely depends how they work precisely and more importantly how do they look!
Aurum wise I would expect that they would be a little more expensive than a mere 4k aurum but there are many possibilities to have LP ones for the factions. In my mind, there would be a special slot in the fitting window that would accept a skin module. These skin modules can be moved around in the same way any other module can. Of course, I am speculating. If CCP keeps with the primary colors of the navy factions in Eve Online then these skins should look pretty nice. I see your point though. Something we haven't considered yet: what if CCP made these skins BPCs. 4000 AUR for 1000 Medium Amarr Navy skins or something like that. I have to say I would probably not purchase skins if they were BPCs. Would anyone else?
A pretty cool idea, I think that would be there general direction as that's kind of what they are doing with EVE skins right?
As for BPC`s I would be put off by that. Would much rather buy a permanent skin.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8918
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:00:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Probably nothing because I have my Quafe. Unless... I can bring their old fabulousness back... Imagine if CCP created a 'Quafe' skin that could apply to all dropsuits of that Size and Race.
Gallente Light 'Quafe'
You could stick it on a std, adv, or proto dropsuit.
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
710
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:17:00 -
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Hmm... What would be a good price point?
It depends on the SKINs I suppose.
Simple (one colour) variations should not cost you much, perhaps 1000-3000 AUR.
More complex (camo etc) can go for 3000-6000 AUR.
Unique faction skins can go even higher, with a LP equivalent in the relevant store.
In addition: There should always be some skins not obtainable in any store, and only obtainable through events, missions and pure luck (I.e strongboxes). |
LOOKMOM NOHANDS
489
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Posted - 2015.04.07 21:31:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:There is a distinct possibility that we will have dropsuit skins in the near-ish future. Maybe... probably.
This is CCP we're talking about so we can never be sure anything will happen. Work with me here.
Let's suppose that skins do become a thing. Assuming skins are organized by [Size] [Race] [Skin Color]... Medium Amarr Navy for example. Also assume they will be BPO's. How much would you pay for a single skin?
I would not not pay more than 4000 AUR ($1.99 USD) per skin. Thoughts?
Like warbarge components I will only spend whatever AUR I have left over once I buy keys and boosters. Basically I will never have one if they cost more than a faction booster. |
Piercing Serenity
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
875
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:51:00 -
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To my understanding, SKINs will allow us to both customize the appearance of drop suits, as well as modify base stats of the drop suit (by color). So I would say all SKINs that give bonuses should cost ISK. Cosmetic SKINs should be between $0.99 and $1.99, with a bundle of 3 SKINs being $4.99
I got enemies,
got a lot of enemies
, got a lot of people tryna drain me of this energy
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bathtubist
TRUE SAVAGES
Learning Alliance
81
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:54:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:There is a distinct possibility that we will have dropsuit skins in the near-ish future. Maybe... probably.
This is CCP we're talking about so we can never be sure anything will happen. Work with me here.
Let's suppose that skins do become a thing. Assuming skins are organized by [Size] [Race] [Skin Color]... Medium Amarr Navy for example. Also assume they will be BPO's. How much would you pay for a single skin?
I would not not pay more than 4000 AUR ($1.99 USD) per skin. Thoughts?
if they make the skins dropable (scavenge wise) then yea |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
3312
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Posted - 2015.04.07 23:34:00 -
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Harry Bawlss wrote:Shouldn't pay for skins. Should be something to earn.
*coughapexcough*
AND
Mmmmm...
Plasma Cannon :3
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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Indianna Pwns
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2015.04.08 02:11:00 -
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-ú0.99 |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9590
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Posted - 2015.04.08 02:20:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:There is a distinct possibility that we will have dropsuit skins in the near-ish future. Maybe... probably.
This is CCP we're talking about so we can never be sure anything will happen. Work with me here.
Let's suppose that skins do become a thing. Assuming skins are organized by [Size] [Race] [Skin Color]... Medium Amarr Navy for example. Also assume they will be BPO's. How much would you pay for a single skin?
I would not not pay more than 4000 AUR ($1.99 USD) per skin. Thoughts? Honestly after as money as i've spent on this game, they could probably charge 5-10 dollars and I will still buy it, let me tell you why. When something is for sale in the Marketplace my first thought is "that's too much no way". Then guess what I do? guess what I ****** do? I end up buyin that gosh darn ***** anyway lol. So hopefully not too many people that play Dust think like me.............. jeez
I remember when the Seen pack came out and every time a saw a Dren suit I thought "lol you spent $100 on a free to play game." I've now spent over that, except I have no Dren suits.
Amarr are the good guys
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9590
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Posted - 2015.04.08 02:22:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:It entirely depends how they work precisely and more importantly how do they look!
Aurum wise I would expect that they would be a little more expensive than a mere 4k aurum but there are many possibilities to have LP ones for the factions. In my mind, there would be a special slot in the fitting window that would accept a skin module. These skin modules can be moved around in the same way any other module can. Of course, I am speculating. If CCP keeps with the primary colors of the navy factions in Eve Online then these skins should look pretty nice. I see your point though. Something we haven't considered yet: what if CCP made these skins BPCs. 4000 AUR for 1000 Medium Amarr Navy skins or something like that. I have to say I would probably not purchase skins if they were BPCs. Would anyone else? A pretty cool idea, I think that would be there general direction as that's kind of what they are doing with EVE skins right? As for BPC`s I would be put off by that. Would much rather buy a permanent skin.
Why off put? What if you just want a cheaper option to look cool for your quarters? Plus BPCs should be purchased with small quantities of ISK.
Amarr are the good guys
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