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castba
Rogue Instincts
Ashtar Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:03:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:shaman oga wrote:That happens because you and your friends protostomped too much before.
I call it karmic justice.
Get bored. Ah, come on, almost anyone has at least one proto now.
Yes, but it is more HOW and WHEN it is used.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to..... or should.
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17937
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:03:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:True Adamance wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:True Adamance wrote:Indianna Pwns wrote:I'd say the problem isn't with matchmaking but a cowardly player base that has become fat and lazy feasting on juicy blueberrys. Now that people have to work for their kills they come and ***** about it on the forums instead of sticking it out and put up a good fight.
Think of the game like this though. In Dust you need to fund your actions. You are a business as well as a commodity. In order to appreciate you need to be in a successful corporation, to do that you need to do well, to do well you need better gear, and to get better gear you need SP and ISK, and to get those you need to ensure you are a profitable business/commodity. Morals be damned a player needs to ensure they are profitable above all other things and this means you cannot be wasteful with you lives in game and not always able to be aggressive resulting in the perception that you are "cowardly" a word that really has no meaning in New Eden. For example this is especially important for a group that aspires to Planetary Conquest or Faction Warfare, the former requiring a large initial investment from the players and corporation while the latter requires a sustained flow of ISK to support your long term efforts. If you have to play like a pus$y to make isk then you shouldn't be saving up for PC in the first place. You should be playing a game that takes less skill. Not that dust takes much skill. This playerbase is just full of over analytical nerds from eve who are bad at fps. This is the worst fps playerbase to ever play an fps. Mainly due to the eve community and the F2P aspect of the game that draws in noobs and pre teens. That's right. preteen tryhards from CoD might actually be better then the garbage players that eve brings to the table 'Oh noes I must run basic to protect my isk consumption.'STFU nerds. If you were actually good at the game you could run whatever you want without having to even worry about isk consumption. No one has to "play like a pus$y" to accrue ISK however it is simply a means of doing so that is efficient and reaps the rewards of ISK and Kills. The difference is between players, some like to play aggressively and get to grips with their opponent, other prefer to approach the game more passively. In Pub's I'll either derp around or try to win the ISK war. At this point with Tanks the way they are kills don't mean that much to me but winning the ISK war against a team does. LOL at your isk war. It's monopoly money on a dying F2P FPS. Where is a locker or trashcan when you need one. GET THAT NERD!
Yeah....I think you mistake the above statements for my actually being invested in Dust. At one point I did love the game.....which is not quite true any more.
No sure what your deal is but you seem to be way more invested in this whole mess than I am.
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
-The Nameless City
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Crimson Moon V
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:07:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:
'Oh noes I must run basic to protect my isk consumption.'STFU nerds.
Right... Because when the isk hits 0, which it will if everyone uses only proto in pub matches... What should we run then? No if everyone used proto the scrubs would run out of money and the good players would dominate and stock pile isk like they always have. Good players will be on both sides... It stands to reason that both sides will die... 2 deaths and you need what 400 - 500k isk reward to pay for it? You see a guy die in proto a few times in a match, but they don't care, because the next matches will be 0 deaths against people who aren't able to kill them... That's where most of the 'non pc farmed' isk comes from. Tell me how often you've had a good pub match (an even one with proto on both sides) and you've pulled a profit? Or did you get your money in the easy matches between...
Honestly If I was playing against full 16 of proto I would always go positive in isk.
I will tell you a story. Back in chromeosone a bunch the imperfects and other good players from the community did a proto Q^ event. We would thought that it would be an isk sink and some exciting matches. What happened surprised even us. We all made isk every game. The payouts were 600k to 1.8 mil based on performance. So you are wrong. If you were good enough to kill other proto squads in your proto gear you would actually make more money. Scrubs are going to scrub though so I don't expect much from this community.
Anymore excuses from this scrubby community?
Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
5549
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:15:00 -
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Every day with this community, something new has killed the game.
FFS, yea its bad but its a new system they are constantly dicking around with. Roll with the punches.
If its messed up two days from now, thats different.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17937
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:17:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:
@true-Honestly not much invested into this game anymore. I care very little. I just like trolling and being a royal douche. It's what I do.
Which is ironic given you posts since you were in the Imperfects Ahhrendee or however you spell it and if I recall Chromosome you guys were some of the prolific Proto/High Tier users [not a bad thing] while everyone was trying to play catch up to your guys.
Which is more of less where most of you all got your reputation as nasty slayers.
Not really possible to foster the perception of a skilled community when myself and every other Chromo/Replication vet looks back on the old days with fond nostalgia.
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
-The Nameless City
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
975
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:18:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:I will tell you a story. Back in chromeosone a bunch of the imperfects and other good players from the community did a proto Q^ event. We would thought that it would be an isk sink and some exciting matches. What happened surprised even us. We all made isk every game. The payouts were 600k to 1.8 mil based on performance. So you are wrong. If you were good enough to kill other proto squads in your proto gear you would actually make more money. Scrubs are going to scrub though so I don't expect much from this community.
Back in Chromosome, during an event... Well congrats.
During the payout fookup of 2014 I ran proto and went positive as well... Because the payouts were higher. The payouts are now lower. |
Satori Particle
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:26:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Satori Particle wrote:
OP / Customer makes a post in an open forum and is chastised by a representative of the business. I critized this move and you defend it by saying ignoring customers is optimal under curtain circumstances which would have been fine but he wasn't ignored, he was chastised. Not by just the public which is fine but by a representative of the business. Anyway I'm over it enjoy the circle jerking.
I gave you circumstances in which you MUST ignore or fire a customer. If people are watching a play, and someone is talking on a cell phone, it is the responsibility of the theatre to remove said customer so that a greater number of customers can enjoy the show. In Dust, if a player wants something that creates imbalance, and as a result significantly reduces the enjoyment and playability of the game for a great many others, it is CCPs responsibility to ignore that suggestion. What about that is so hard to understand?
This is an open forum so your theater analogy is a fail. Op speaks his opinion on an open forum and is chastised by a representative of the business. Not smart. Simple. |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9019
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:51:00 -
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Satori Particle wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Satori Particle wrote:
OP / Customer makes a post in an open forum and is chastised by a representative of the business. I critized this move and you defend it by saying ignoring customers is optimal under curtain circumstances which would have been fine but he wasn't ignored, he was chastised. Not by just the public which is fine but by a representative of the business. Anyway I'm over it enjoy the circle jerking.
I gave you circumstances in which you MUST ignore or fire a customer. If people are watching a play, and someone is talking on a cell phone, it is the responsibility of the theatre to remove said customer so that a greater number of customers can enjoy the show. In Dust, if a player wants something that creates imbalance, and as a result significantly reduces the enjoyment and playability of the game for a great many others, it is CCPs responsibility to ignore that suggestion. What about that is so hard to understand? This is an open forum so your theater analogy is a fail. Op speaks his opinion on an open forum and is chastised by a representative of the business. Not smart. Simple.
It is smart.
The CPM asked him to be constructive.
He was not being constructive.
Constructive feedback is good for business.
People who can't be constructive aren't good for business, and you are better off without them.
If you can't handle the complexities of business, and how some stakeholders interests conflict, that isn't the problem of anyone else but you.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Satori Particle
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2015.04.02 00:12:00 -
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Dust 514 is better off without people who can't be constructive in forum posts. I don't agree with that statement and will agree to disagree with you. I think Dust is better off without chastising it's dwindling player base wether they are being constructive or not. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.04.02 00:26:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:The Dark Cloud wrote:Running solo? Why should i do that? Why should people play against you? I don't leave matches against Negative-Feedback (or anyone else,) but damn you guys play a boring game... What makes you so special that other people shouldn't be just as free to do as they please? Eh, back in the IMP days we would intentionally sync AGAINST each other. You only get better against tough opponents. Again the issue isn't going against tough players. The issues is the equally matched players (outnumbering the other side on several occasions) leave the match and screw over people on both sides. Eventually these folks will realize they are just going to have to wait forever because, no, they can't farm randoms anymore. I do think that repeatedly leaving matches though should incur a penalty.
We don't really care what you think. |
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DiablosMajora
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Posted - 2015.04.02 00:34:00 -
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@Happy Violentime:
QQ more
@Kain Spero:
simple, 5-10 minute penalty of not being able to queue for another match if you (purposefully) leave early. I foresee potential problems if not coded correctly and you get disconnected.
you could also get rid of the leaderboard until the end of the match.
Prepare your angus
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
979
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Posted - 2015.04.02 00:37:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:shaman oga wrote:That happens because you and your friends protostomped too much before.
I call it karmic justice.
Get bored. Ah, come on, almost anyone has at least one proto now.
Maybe they didn't get a 1 Bill salvage reimbursement 2 weeks before the start of open beta? Maybe they didn't play farmville with molden heath? They may have proto doesn't mean they can afford to run it every game. |
Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6406
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:28:00 -
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It's stupid to just say, proto in pubs is bad.
I was in a match today solo where I had 16 kills and the next best was 5. We were completely wrecked. Is running proto in that scenario is still considered bad?
Most of the bad scenarios are more to do with no coordination or team work at all. The 4 or 5 solo dudes throwing down links get smashed, links get camped, pushing stops. The good players will wreck people that are solo all day long in whatever gear. Certainly win matches. I have a tendency to step up my gear in a close match, but I think that should be expected.
We should be talking about buffing payouts for winning. More components for winning, etc. This more than tiered matches or anything else will improve matches immensely.
The entire problem comes from too many people wanting this to be a solo game. The beauty of this game is in it's team play. CCP should develop around that. |
The Dark Cloud
Negative-Feedback.
4270
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:36:00 -
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lol sorry that im not playing in the "n00b bracket" i just state how things are in the playground for the big boys. I dont hold back on issues on the game that are blatantly obvious from the get go. The Devs need a antagonistic resource to keep them in check and because nobody else is doing it i just do it. This stuff here will even get worse when we add Meta lockout with multiple meta brackets which will splitt the community even more.
Hows this gonna turn out?
skill brackets "n00b" and "vets" with another 3 brackets that are labeled with "STD-ADV-PRO"? And then we still have the 3 game modes on top of that. So basically The grand master plan is to splitt the community into 18 brackets. Yeah im eager too see how thats gonna work. So in the end when everything is implemented i have to wait 1 hour+ to get into a ambush match.
Sorya i highly doubt that you filter usefull information from feedback. You just sit back, nitpick what you like and then throw it at the devs to gain personal advantage. You obviously dont care about vets/good players. I only take that back if i see actions within a week.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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CCP Frame
C C P
C C P Alliance
6094
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:39:00 -
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Please keep your feedback regarding the new matchmaking engine constructive and in this thread. Thank you guys.
CCP Frame, CCP Community Team
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