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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.01 19:44:00 -
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Hey, remember when I told you proto stompers that your actions have consequences and that you will only have yourselves to blame when CCP does something about it?
Welcome to the retribution.
Enjoy your stay.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.01 20:21:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:As was announced, they are testing this. Constructive feedback is useful, and you can place it in Rattati's thread. Whining about it and talking about your patience is not useful and you should stop bothering to do it. Rattati's thread? Where? You could've linked it no? Jesus. Put a ******* announcement up.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=198028
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.01 22:11:00 -
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Satori Particle wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:As was announced, they are testing this. Constructive feedback is useful, and you can place it in Rattati's thread. Whining about it and talking about your patience is not useful and you should stop bothering to do it. What an idiotic reply, almost as bad as the one I'm submitting. Treating the dwindling player base like disposable pawns doesn't sound very smart to me. Constructive feedback is useful if you do something constructive with it, not otherwise. This game is failing and taking it lightly only makes it worse.
Rattati actually listens to constructive feedback.
Its one of the things he does best.
If you think bltching and moaning about it will get something done, you are deluded.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.01 22:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Indianna Pwns wrote:I'd say the problem isn't with matchmaking but a cowardly player base that has become fat and lazy feasting on juicy blueberrys. Now that people have to work for their kills they come and ***** about it on the forums instead of sticking it out and put up a good fight.
Think of the game like this though. In Dust you need to fund your actions. You are a business as well as a commodity. In order to appreciate you need to be in a successful corporation, to do that you need to do well, to do well you need better gear, and to get better gear you need SP and ISK, and to get those you need to ensure you are a profitable business/commodity. Morals be damned a player needs to ensure they are profitable above all other things and this means you cannot be wasteful with you lives in game and not always able to be aggressive resulting in the perception that you are "cowardly" a word that really has no meaning in New Eden. For example this is especially important for a group that aspires to Planetary Conquest or Faction Warfare, the former requiring a large initial investment from the players and corporation while the latter requires a sustained flow of ISK to support your long term efforts.
That might be good in theory, but in reality there reality ISK is imaginary.
The pleasure these people get from feeling like they are superior by stomping new players that just want to have fun is not imaginary.
Regardless of how narrow you try and focus something, the world is broader and has more incentives and motivations than what you describe.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.01 22:27:00 -
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Satori Particle wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Satori Particle wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:As was announced, they are testing this. Constructive feedback is useful, and you can place it in Rattati's thread. Whining about it and talking about your patience is not useful and you should stop bothering to do it. What an idiotic reply, almost as bad as the one I'm submitting. Treating the dwindling player base like disposable pawns doesn't sound very smart to me. Constructive feedback is useful if you do something constructive with it, not otherwise. This game is failing and taking it lightly only makes it worse. Rattati actually listens to constructive feedback. Its one of the things he does best. If you think bltching and moaning about it will get something done, you are deluded. I don't think simply bitching and moaning will get something done, nor did I think OP was simply bitching and moaning. I'm pointing out that OP is a customer or maybe a potential customer and treating your customers like disposable pawns isn't very smart even if they ***** and whine. Anyone who has worked in customer service knows this to be fundamental.
I work in customer service, and have for many years.
What I also know, as in this case and mine, is that sometimes consumers interests come into conflict with one another, and you are put in the middle and must do the best you can to please as many people as possible.
I would argue that giving time to those that make an honest effort towards helping, encouraging those who aren't to do so, and ignoring consumers that may be a greater negative than a positive is the best way forwards. Sometimes as a business, you MUST fire a customer.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.01 22:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
As I have said before I do not believe one can hold themselves responsible for the enjoyment of their opponents in a competitive PvP game. This is because no matter what I do to pursue my own enjoyment it will likely directly conflict with your own. That's not to say I wouldn't want to foster a pleasant line of communication or community outside of the game....but in game I'm not responsible for making anyone enjoy the game more or less than they should.
I understand the wider implications yes however to what level do you hold me or any other player responsible for your enjoyment of the game?
Its one thing to be indifferent to whether or not what you do affects others in game, or how it affects others.
It is a completely different set of circumstances when the goal of someone IS to ruin the enjoyment of the game for others.
That is what we are talking about with some of these players.
And if your enjoyment of the game requires that there be other players to play against, and your behaviors reduce the chances of their being someone else to play against, than it seems logical that you SHOULD care about how what you do affects others.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:01:00 -
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Satori Particle wrote:
OP / Customer makes a post in an open forum and is chastised by a representative of the business. I critized this move and you defend it by saying ignoring customers is optimal under curtain circumstances which would have been fine but he wasn't ignored, he was chastised. Not by just the public which is fine but by a representative of the business. Anyway I'm over it enjoy the circle jerking.
I gave you circumstances in which you MUST ignore or fire a customer.
If people are watching a play, and someone is talking on a cell phone, it is the responsibility of the theatre to remove said customer so that a greater number of customers can enjoy the show.
In Dust, if a player wants something that creates imbalance, and as a result significantly reduces the enjoyment and playability of the game for a great many others, it is CCPs responsibility to ignore that suggestion.
What about that is so hard to understand?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:51:00 -
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Satori Particle wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Satori Particle wrote:
OP / Customer makes a post in an open forum and is chastised by a representative of the business. I critized this move and you defend it by saying ignoring customers is optimal under curtain circumstances which would have been fine but he wasn't ignored, he was chastised. Not by just the public which is fine but by a representative of the business. Anyway I'm over it enjoy the circle jerking.
I gave you circumstances in which you MUST ignore or fire a customer. If people are watching a play, and someone is talking on a cell phone, it is the responsibility of the theatre to remove said customer so that a greater number of customers can enjoy the show. In Dust, if a player wants something that creates imbalance, and as a result significantly reduces the enjoyment and playability of the game for a great many others, it is CCPs responsibility to ignore that suggestion. What about that is so hard to understand? This is an open forum so your theater analogy is a fail. Op speaks his opinion on an open forum and is chastised by a representative of the business. Not smart. Simple.
It is smart.
The CPM asked him to be constructive.
He was not being constructive.
Constructive feedback is good for business.
People who can't be constructive aren't good for business, and you are better off without them.
If you can't handle the complexities of business, and how some stakeholders interests conflict, that isn't the problem of anyone else but you.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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