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Kira Lannister
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:10:00 -
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UNREAL 4 FPS DEMO
Look the scout (presuming due to that sprint speed) wandering around what appears to be a Gallente inner metropolis building. It even has a Gallente/Minmatar Pirate Factional Weapon. Plasma accelerated bullets that has a damage profile of +5 to shields/+5 to armor. Tots op.
This could be us CCP.
Just do it, take our money.
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P14GU3
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:17:00 -
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Wow, it's almost as if they were mocking/taunting CCP. The architecture can't be coincidental..
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:18:00 -
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Too much earth; I see no new eden here.
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Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:20:00 -
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Then they wouldn't have an excuse for poor netcode
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here.
What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital.
Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh?
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:29:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital. Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh?
And nothing here looks like new eden. It looks like earth 2050
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital. Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh? And nothing here looks like new eden. It looks like earth 2050
Out.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2809
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here.
Luminaire is a temperate world that was fully terraformed before the EVE Gate collapsed. It probably looks a lot like Earth, considering it was terraformed by people from Earth...
And there are 1000s of temperate and terraformed planets in New Eden... 7200 to be exact. It would be will to think than none of them look like Earth.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:40:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital. Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh? And nothing here looks like new eden. It looks like earth 2050 Out.
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:43:00 -
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Typical Caldari depressive settings. Maybe the gallente likes there gardens. One can never be too sure of such things. Maybe they have freed slaves watering the grass.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:52:00 -
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Again. 1000s of temperate and settled worlds.
I guarantee you that at least a few of them look like that.
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:02:00 -
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that looks ******* beautiful.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19008
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:03:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Again. 1000s of temperate and settled worlds.
I guarantee you that at least a few of them look like that.
No considering we fight on most of them.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:31:00 -
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But we never fight in the cities. We are always fighting in industrial settings.
I imagine a Gallente City looks a lot like that.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:38:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:But we never fight in the cities. We are always fighting in industrial settings. I imagine a Gallente City looks a lot like that.
No; its a dank rainy place that would remind you more of the cities of Bladerunner and not Star Trek
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:40:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:But we never fight in the cities. We are always fighting in industrial settings. I imagine a Gallente City looks a lot like that. No; its a dank rainy place that would remind you more of the cities of Bladerunner and not Star Trek That sounds more like the Khanid underground cities.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: No; its a dank rainy place that would remind you more of the cities of Bladerunner and not Star Trek
There are probably tens of thousands of Gallente Cities... I highly doubt they are all dystopian slum cities on rainy planets... At least a few of them have to be nice like that. Maybe a place where only the well-to-do Gallente live?
What on Earth makes you think that every city in New Eden is stereotypical to their Empire?
I'm sure there are beautiful and nasty cities all over the place in New Eden... Even the Minmatar probably have some seriously nice places.
That city, is in my opinion, the spitting image of what a rich and well maintained Gallente City looks like.p
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:48:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:
There are probably tens of thousands of Gallente Cities... I highly doubt they are all dystopian slum cities on rainy planets... At least a few of them have to be nice like that. Maybe a place where only the well-to-do Gallente live?
What on Earth makes you think that every city in New Eden is stereotypical to their Empire?
I'm sure there are beautiful and nasty cities all over the place in New Eden... Even the Minmatar probably have some seriously nice places.
That city, is in my opinion, the spitting image of what a rich and well maintained Gallente City looks like.
Sterotypical Eve; try that for size.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:48:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote: What on Earth makes you think that every city in New Eden is stereotypical to their Empire?
Racism, probably.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2810
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
There are probably tens of thousands of Gallente Cities... I highly doubt they are all dystopian slum cities on rainy planets... At least a few of them have to be nice like that. Maybe a place where only the well-to-do Gallente live?
What on Earth makes you think that every city in New Eden is stereotypical to their Empire?
I'm sure there are beautiful and nasty cities all over the place in New Eden... Even the Minmatar probably have some seriously nice places.
That city, is in my opinion, the spitting image of what a rich and well maintained Gallente City looks like.
Sterotypical Eve; try that for size.
Whatever. You are just being difficult to be difficult at this point.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:12:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
There are probably tens of thousands of Gallente Cities... I highly doubt they are all dystopian slum cities on rainy planets... At least a few of them have to be nice like that. Maybe a place where only the well-to-do Gallente live?
What on Earth makes you think that every city in New Eden is stereotypical to their Empire?
I'm sure there are beautiful and nasty cities all over the place in New Eden... Even the Minmatar probably have some seriously nice places.
That city, is in my opinion, the spitting image of what a rich and well maintained Gallente City looks like.
Sterotypical Eve; try that for size. Whatever. You are just being difficult to be difficult at this point.
More like you have to understand there is a tone with eve that is raw and ugly as the human soul; and quite similar to things in nature; the prettier it is the deadlier. Eve is a morbid place where people who carve their own paths of hope have very filthy hands. The best intentions paved on the roads of bones and the rivers of blood of those whose dreams they crush. Not even the SOE are free of this sin.
It's a cruel universe, it i s a universe where destruction and chaos rule; and because of that it is beautiful in its own right.
There is no way this could ever be a level in Dust 514; or anywhere in New Eden.
Also hexagons?
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:14:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. Luminaire is a temperate world that was fully terraformed before the EVE Gate collapsed. It probably looks a lot like Earth, considering it was terraformed by people from Earth... And there are 1000s of temperate and terraformed planets in New Eden... 7200 to be exact. It would be will to think than none of them look like Earth.
Just one problem. None of the buildings in the video look remotely like what I expect to see in New Eden. Not enough gold, so it can't be Amarrian. Not dull-looking or muted enough in color, so it can't be Caldari. No rust in sight, so it can't be Minmatar. Could be Gallentean but I don't see Quafe being advertised.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:21:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. Luminaire is a temperate world that was fully terraformed before the EVE Gate collapsed. It probably looks a lot like Earth, considering it was terraformed by people from Earth... And there are 1000s of temperate and terraformed planets in New Eden... 7200 to be exact. It would be will to think than none of them look like Earth. Just one problem. None of the buildings in the video look remotely like what I expect to see in New Eden. Not enough gold, so it can't be Amarrian. Not dull-looking or muted enough in color, so it can't be Caldari. No rust in sight, so it can't be Minmatar. Could be Gallentean but I don't see Quafe being advertised.
Those are not Gallente buildings at all. Hell they dont even fit the generic prefabs of new eden and those are the closest to earthen designs we have.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
There are probably tens of thousands of Gallente Cities... I highly doubt they are all dystopian slum cities on rainy planets... At least a few of them have to be nice like that. Maybe a place where only the well-to-do Gallente live?
What on Earth makes you think that every city in New Eden is stereotypical to their Empire?
I'm sure there are beautiful and nasty cities all over the place in New Eden... Even the Minmatar probably have some seriously nice places.
That city, is in my opinion, the spitting image of what a rich and well maintained Gallente City looks like.
Sterotypical Eve; try that for size. Whatever. You are just being difficult to be difficult at this point. More like you have to understand there is a tone with eve that is raw and ugly as the human soul; and quite similar to things in nature; the prettier it is the deadlier. Eve is a morbid place where people who carve their own paths of hope have very filthy hands. The best intentions paved on the roads of bones and the rivers of blood of those whose dreams they crush. Not even the SOE are free of this sin. It's a cruel universe, it i s a universe where destruction and chaos rule; and because of that it is beautiful in its own right. There is no way this could ever be a level in Dust 514; or anywhere in New Eden. Also hexagons?
I understand that New Eden is a dark and depression emotastical place for you to cut yourself in, but to say that there aren't ANY nicer looking cities in the many millions of cities that there probably are is just ******* ********.
I know for a fact that there are luxury companies in New Eden. And that there are uber-rich people. Where do they live? In the slums with everyone else?
No. They probably live on beautiful planets in beautiful cities in the beautiful houses and go do business or recreation in beautiful cities. I know that if I had billions of ISK, and lived in New Eden, I'd want to live there, rather than just to top level of some slum...
The Gallente in particular have a massive class gap, where the poor live in squalor and the rich live in stupendous luxury. I'm imagining something like Elysium, but a completely different planet, rather than just a space station...
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:32:00 -
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pfft the rich gallente cannot be sustained that far away; just not economical at all. Also what sort of society would they be if they kept the poor out? They have to be inclusive after all even if its in pain and suffering and misery.
Also not sure if you check but humans are pretty much a bunch of natural ruining assholes in new eden. The fact we have so many planets makes us squander most of it.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:37:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital. Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh? And nothing here looks like new eden. It looks like earth 2050 so your saying a world with actual lifelike detail cant possibly be a new eden? New eden sucks
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:39:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital. Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh? And nothing here looks like new eden. It looks like earth 2050 so your saying a world with actual lifelike detail cant possibly be a new eden? New eden sucks
No no no just this environment is entirely wrong; the very fist UE4 demo from last years E3 was far more fitting; there are others. This however screams star trek.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:41:00 -
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Nope. According to EvE lore... All history of Earth was demolished when the gates collapsed. Technology took a massive dive, and they have been slowly rebuilding. Eventually, after their technology became sufficient, they found the ruins of earth starships etc, and salvaged them to learn the technology.
All of the technology they use has been "found" from one point or another, they didn't really develop it themselves. Every race are basically scavengers of some kind or another trying to make their mark in this arena of conflict. It is highly unlikely that they learned of ecology, environmental safety, or even former earth aesthetics because they were given large leaps of which overrode many of the potential points where such things could have been learned. And with all these planets available, why preserve one planet, when you can just move to another? Turn subject planets into garbage yards, and not even bother with pollution standards. They found the technology to let them survive indefinitely in space, so why would a ruined atmosphere mean anything to them?
No doubt, that only the elite of the elite get to live in cities that are so open and under populated. But those cities would be HEAVILY engineered to fulfill a certain architecture style. Most of the planets are war-zones caused by the masses of mini corporations vying for property and sales presence. You have to remember that unless it is one of the core home worlds, the governments really couldn't care less what happens on them.
As mentioned before, the only lands that would have such open architecture would be for the highly wealthy... which would mean a massive selection of personal armadas circling the planet ready to intercept even the smallest bug that would try an uninvited landing. If combat did happen to take place on the ground, there would have to be more crashed ships than buildings littering the landscape.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:42:00 -
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Regardless whether the demo is New Eden or not(how gives a f*ck), it looks amazing and CCP has to step up and evolve if they want to become respectable developers.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:48:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Regardless whether the demo is New Eden or not(how gives a f*ck), it looks amazing and CCP has to step up and evolve if they want to become respectable developers.
This does not erase the insult the notion of trying to compare it to new eden
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Posted - 2015.03.26 06:00:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Regardless whether the demo is New Eden or not(how gives a f*ck), it looks amazing and CCP has to step up and evolve if they want to become respectable developers. This does not erase the insult the notion of trying to compare it to new eden
Yet you were the one who first brought up New Eden.
The original comparison was specifically with regards to DUST and the content within (current or desired): Faction weapons, damage profiles, the map.... And even then, the comparison was not explicitly literal, and could easily be understood in a more generalized sense, or in a manner more pertaining to graphical fidelity.
Then you came along, and mentioned New Eden, bringing forth the comparisons.
The "insult," as you say, partially rests on your shoulders.
Not that I care, merely giving an impartial analysis of events.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 06:04:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Nope. According to EvE lore... All history of Earth was demolished when the gates collapsed. Technology took a massive dive, and they have been slowly rebuilding. Eventually, after their technology became sufficient, they found the ruins of earth starships etc, and salvaged them to learn the technology.
All of the technology they use has been "found" from one point or another, they didn't really develop it themselves. Every race are basically scavengers of some kind or another trying to make their mark in this arena of conflict. It is highly unlikely that they learned of ecology, environmental safety, or even former earth aesthetics because they were given large leaps of which overrode many of the potential points where such things could have been learned. And with all these planets available, why preserve one planet, when you can just move to another? Turn subject planets into garbage yards, and not even bother with pollution standards. They found the technology to let them survive indefinitely in space, so why would a ruined atmosphere mean anything to them?
No doubt, that only the elite of the elite get to live in cities that are so open and under populated. But those cities would be HEAVILY engineered to fulfill a certain architecture style. Most of the planets are war-zones caused by the masses of mini corporations vying for property and sales presence. You have to remember that unless it is one of the core home worlds, the governments really couldn't care less what happens on them.
As mentioned before, the only lands that would have such open architecture would be for the highly wealthy... which would mean a massive selection of personal armadas circling the planet ready to intercept even the smallest bug that would try an uninvited landing. If combat did happen to take place on the ground, there would have to be more crashed ships than buildings littering the landscape.
In terms of modern inhabitants of New Eden, you're correct. But in terms of human history from the moment we first drew animals on cave walls back on Earth to the moment Dust Mercenaries and Eve Capsuleers dominate the cluster in New Eden, we have developed the technology ourselves. We just had to relearn it.
PS: Back on earth, it was believed that the first computer was developed during World War II. But archaeologists later discovered that the first real computer was developed by the Ancient Greeks long before the fall of the Roman Empire. Of course, the ancient computer was completely analog but served its function as a computer complete with input/output features.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 06:10:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Nope. According to EvE lore... All history of Earth was demolished when the gates collapsed. Technology took a massive dive, and they have been slowly rebuilding. Eventually, after their technology became sufficient, they found the ruins of earth starships etc, and salvaged them to learn the technology.
All of the technology they use has been "found" from one point or another, they didn't really develop it themselves. Every race are basically scavengers of some kind or another trying to make their mark in this arena of conflict. It is highly unlikely that they learned of ecology, environmental safety, or even former earth aesthetics because they were given large leaps of which overrode many of the potential points where such things could have been learned. And with all these planets available, why preserve one planet, when you can just move to another? Turn subject planets into garbage yards, and not even bother with pollution standards. They found the technology to let them survive indefinitely in space, so why would a ruined atmosphere mean anything to them?
No doubt, that only the elite of the elite get to live in cities that are so open and under populated. But those cities would be HEAVILY engineered to fulfill a certain architecture style. Most of the planets are war-zones caused by the masses of mini corporations vying for property and sales presence. You have to remember that unless it is one of the core home worlds, the governments really couldn't care less what happens on them.
As mentioned before, the only lands that would have such open architecture would be for the highly wealthy... which would mean a massive selection of personal armadas circling the planet ready to intercept even the smallest bug that would try an uninvited landing. If combat did happen to take place on the ground, there would have to be more crashed ships than buildings littering the landscape. In terms of modern inhabitants of New Eden, you're correct. But in terms of human history from the moment we first drew animals on cave walls back on Earth to the moment Dust Mercenaries and Eve Capsuleers dominate the cluster in New Eden, we have developed the technology ourselves. We just had to relearn it. PS: Back on earth, it was believed that the first computer was developed during World War II. But archaeologists later discovered that the first real computer was developed by the Ancient Greeks long before the fall of the Roman Empire. Of course, the ancient computer was completely analog but served its function as a computer complete with input/output features.
Geocentric earth calculators where awesome! (And still frighteningly accurate) took us a rather long time to reverse engineer it.
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P14GU3 wrote:Wow, it's almost as if they were mocking/taunting CCP. The architecture can't be coincidental..
tbh this "architecture" resembles a lot of "shiny" sci-fi if loosely looked at, but I've never seen this "proper" in EVE-O... Anywhere.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Maken Tosch wrote:
In terms of modern inhabitants of New Eden, you're correct. But in terms of human history from the moment we first drew animals on cave walls back on Earth to the moment Dust Mercenaries and Eve Capsuleers dominate the cluster in New Eden, we have developed the technology ourselves. We just had to relearn it.
PS: Back on earth, it was believed that the first computer was developed during World War II. But archaeologists later discovered that the first real computer was developed by the Ancient Greeks long before the fall of the Roman Empire. Of course, the ancient computer was completely analog but served its function as a computer complete with input/output features.
Ehrm.... That's not quite an accurate way to look at this problem.
There is a MASSIVE gap between understanding how to get something to work by copying it's fabrication point for point, and understanding the reasons of WHY something works, and HOW this conclusion was expected.
For example, if a race of humans had crash landed on a planet on a ship full of subservient nanomachines... and they had a technology wipe like the EvE pioneers had, the populations might eventually figure out how to get the machines to build objects, and hence believe it to be a form of sorcery etc. As a result the population would never learn about biology, such as bacteria and viruses, and believe that exorcism is the cure for all ailments. (as in using the nanomachines to take care of things)
This same setup will happen for any kind of technology that one gets suddenly. We can see it in third-world countries around the globe, this very same pattern. People learn only as much as they need to build and use the item, but not anything regarding what the item actually IS.
Now, if you were to upscale that... to the massive degree that EvE has it... and it's an entirely different league of mislead assumptions and un-investigated logic. They can produce it, and they can use it, but their tweaking of the technology is clunky, and innovations are slow, due to the fact they have little understanding of what the core physics and mechanics were in the first place.
Piggybacking on technology that you only investigate as far as how to use, and slight improvements in personal use can have devastating effects. One such example would be the Sleepers. The capsuleers don't know they why or how about these entities, and yet they are still allowing such technology to be spread throughout their homes.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.03.26 06:50:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
In terms of modern inhabitants of New Eden, you're correct. But in terms of human history from the moment we first drew animals on cave walls back on Earth to the moment Dust Mercenaries and Eve Capsuleers dominate the cluster in New Eden, we have developed the technology ourselves. We just had to relearn it.
PS: Back on earth, it was believed that the first computer was developed during World War II. But archaeologists later discovered that the first real computer was developed by the Ancient Greeks long before the fall of the Roman Empire. Of course, the ancient computer was completely analog but served its function as a computer complete with input/output features.
Ehrm.... That's not quite an accurate way to look at this problem. There is a MASSIVE gap between understanding how to get something to work by copying it's fabrication point for point, and understanding the reasons of WHY something works, and HOW this conclusion was expected. For example, if a race of humans had crash landed on a planet on a ship full of subservient nanomachines... and they had a technology wipe like the EvE pioneers had, the populations might eventually figure out how to get the machines to build objects, and hence believe it to be a form of sorcery etc. As a result the population would never learn about biology, such as bacteria and viruses, and believe that exorcism is the cure for all ailments. (as in using the nanomachines to take care of things) This same setup will happen for any kind of technology that one gets suddenly. We can see it in third-world countries around the globe, this very same pattern. People learn only as much as they need to build and use the item, but not anything regarding what the item actually IS. Now, if you were to upscale that... to the massive degree that EvE has it... and it's an entirely different league of mislead assumptions and un-investigated logic. They can produce it, and they can use it, but their tweaking of the technology is clunky, and innovations are slow, due to the fact they have little understanding of what the core physics and mechanics were in the first place. Piggybacking on technology that you only investigate as far as how to use, and slight improvements in personal use can have devastating effects. One such example would be the Sleepers. The capsuleers don't know they why or how about these entities, and yet they are still allowing such technology to be spread throughout their homes. Edit: Oh, and regarding the use of the Unreal Engine? https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4Look down near the bottom of the page. See if anything there catches your eye.
Not saying unreal isn't a way forward just stating the example being boasted as an insult to dust 514 fails as the architecture presented looks nothing like what we have.
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The actual shapes used inside of the building are highly gallente. Large, thick, curved objects.
The color scemes, however, only have a slight resemblance. And the exterior doesn't look terribly Gallente at all.
The cityscape itself looks nothing like something out of New Eden.
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D3ATH CARD RUST415
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CCP take the cash it's yours!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 07:33:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:The actual shapes used inside of the building are highly gallente. Large, thick, curved objects.
The color scemes, however, only have a slight resemblance. And the exterior doesn't look terribly Gallente at all.
The cityscape itself looks nothing like something out of New Eden.
Hexa.... gons....
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While i would love to see new eden presented in such quality and on a larger scale the actual demo here is more like a destiny prequal in my eyes. This is the golden age and the darkness is about to arrive.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Nice graphics! I wish we could have Dust on PC, we probably won't reach this lvl of quality, but there would be a huge improvment in texture loading, framerates, graphics in general, etc.. Please CCP.. The fact that this guy has almost exactly the same PC I built 2 years ago is even more provocating!
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
364
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Posted - 2015.03.26 11:54:00 -
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Saying that it is nothing that would exist in New Eden because what we have is just dumb. We fight in war torn low security spaces that have generic structures dropped on them for fast use.
You can not argue the viability of structures based on design alone. Let's not forget that many cities were built before the Eve Gate collapsed and the faction wars broke out. These cities would have been modeled after a future earth as this is where the original travelers came from with hopes of creating a new earth.
@IWS Please refrain from any future RP you just suck at it.
@OP Thanks for the vid, that looks amazing and one can only dream of some day having such function in a New Eden based FPS. |
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Sky-FIRE
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Pretty impressive demo.
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Ultra health! Turok 2 |
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Armored Dragon Dust
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hexa.... gons....
Your bored aren't you?
Anyway,
CCP you might want to seriously consider moving on to the next engine, i already made a post about this, but that has been ignored.
P14GU3 wrote: Wow, it's almost as if they were mocking/taunting CCP. The architecture can't be coincidental..
I wouldn't say they were mocking CCP, they just know what they are doing, and have been making these games for a very long time, and have a dedicated community and mod base, and... well... yeah, they are just better. Get the free base game, with micro-transactions for content that are made by the community modders, or better yet, make your own mods and go sell them! it's better then dust will ever be. |
Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles.
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y'all are getting off topic...
The video looks very nice and with CCP artists, could make the environment very "New Eden"
The main takeaway from watching the video is that the new UR4 engine looks sharp as hell and should be considered when CCP moves DUST 514 to PS4.
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Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:The actual shapes used inside of the building are highly gallente. Large, thick, curved objects.
The color scemes, however, only have a slight resemblance. And the exterior doesn't look terribly Gallente at all.
The cityscape itself looks nothing like something out of New Eden. Hexa.... gons....
CCP does have an obsession with them. It's true.
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Ghost Kaisar
Negative-Feedback
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:But we never fight in the cities. We are always fighting in industrial settings. I imagine a Gallente City looks a lot like that. No; its a dank rainy place that would remind you more of the cities of Bladerunner and not Star Trek
IWS, let me be real freaking blunt here.
I don't give a SINGLE F*** about whether it looks like Dust or not.
So long that it PLAYS like Dust, and doesn't LAG TO HELL like Dust.
Cosmetics can come later. I just want a game that doesn't leave me feeling like I'm trudging through molasses.
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Look at the gallente lag facililty, octogons everywhere. So because they are octogons, they wouldn't possibly use hexagons, that would be silly
Look at the buildings, they mostly have slanted or rounded tops. The big "dome" in the building he is in, I swear I've seen something just like it in the lag facility.. Yeah it's not very gallente-like at all.
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:12:00 -
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Titus Stryker wrote:y'all are getting off topic...
The video looks very nice and with CCP artists, could make the environment very "New Eden"
The main takeaway from watching the video is that the new UR4 engine looks sharp as hell and should be considered when CCP moves DUST 514 to PS4.
*Decrease color saturation *Add Rain Mood *Add Quafe Vending Machines *Adds Shipping Container *Add MCC Floating in the air.
There you go voila. Some desaturation and depression. There you go New Eden.
Plus the hexagons is a tribute to slay, while the rich and privileged are enjoying the luxurious life, the architects designed with windows with hexa...gons... as a tribute to the war and bloodshed that took to build this beautiful place.
Every time you gaze past those windows, while your eyes see the beauty of this metropolitan paradise, your mind sees the war and bloodshed that it took to build this place. Everything has its price.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:19:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:The actual shapes used inside of the building are highly gallente. Large, thick, curved objects.
The color scemes, however, only have a slight resemblance. And the exterior doesn't look terribly Gallente at all.
The cityscape itself looks nothing like something out of New Eden. Hexa.... gons.... CCP does have an obsession with them. It's true.
No do they not; its an extremely rare shape only featured about... 4 times entirely outside of shields and cloaks.
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:25:00 -
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It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:40:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit.
The problem is that you have an art director that very bent on keeping the theme.
Are there plenty of places like this? not as likely as you think; but the common theme is that the more man gets involved in a place the more ruinious it becomes. Also we're borderline terrraforming capabilities. Lots of places are not earthlike at all but rather entire profiles of some extreme places on earth. We certainly don't have the capabilities of turning barren and desert worlds into oasis. Hell caldari prime has had more than 800 years to get warmed up the damn place is still an effing snowball.
Its likely why people rather take their vacations on stations than planets.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital. Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh? And nothing here looks like new eden. It looks like earth 2050
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit. The problem is that you have an art director that very bent on keeping the theme.
Would it be impossible for him to design structures in UE4?
What's so special about UE3 that stops him from keeping the theme in other engines?
Point of this thread is about the possibility of using UE4 engine. You guys seem sidetracked.
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
2730
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Posted - 2015.03.26 18:06:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit. The problem is that you have an art director that very bent on keeping the theme. Are there plenty of places like this? not as likely as you think; but the common theme is that the more man gets involved in a place the more ruinious it becomes. Also we're borderline terrraforming capabilities. Lots of places are not earthlike at all but rather entire profiles of some extreme places on earth. We certainly don't have the capabilities of turning barren and desert worlds into oasis. Hell caldari prime has had more than 800 years to get warmed up the damn place is still an effing snowball. Its likely why people rather take their vacations on stations than planets.
I bet that would change if they went forward with an Eve Social Game.
Eve: Citizen (Copy right infringement???) Think PS Home, but with more Quafe! You are your avatar, you wake up in your posh little condo. Go to the local hub, read about the recent revolt of Minnie Slaves from an Amarr Slave Cargo Ship. Play a game of Slay. Drink your Quafe Tea (I assume you like tea), and head on over to the space elevator.
From their you decide where you want to transfer your conscience. Maybe your corp currently needs you in the Valkyrie division to assist a squadron sweep, then they need you on Dust later to defend a district. Then make your way back to Eve Citizen just in time to spend all that hard earned isk on a "date" with a little min hottie named Becky. Turns out Becky couldn't make it because her Slave Master lost the keycard to her cage. So you log unto EVE to go mine rocks in highsec, because honestly that's the most stress free thing you've done all day.
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles.
464
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Posted - 2015.03.26 18:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit. The problem is that you have an art director that very bent on keeping the theme. Are there plenty of places like this? not as likely as you think; but the common theme is that the more man gets involved in a place the more ruinious it becomes. Also we're borderline terrraforming capabilities. Lots of places are not earthlike at all but rather entire profiles of some extreme places on earth. We certainly don't have the capabilities of turning barren and desert worlds into oasis. Hell caldari prime has had more than 800 years to get warmed up the damn place is still an effing snowball. Its likely why people rather take their vacations on stations than planets. Did you even read Templar One? I think to go to a beach vacation planet...where the helicopter gets shot down whatever. I recall someones wife and daughter going to a beach vacation...
FYI, Templar One is an EVE/Dust related book...
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 18:12:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit. The problem is that you have an art director that very bent on keeping the theme. Would it be impossible for him to design structures in UE4? What's so special about UE3 that stops him from keeping the theme in other engines? Point of this thread is about the possibility of using UE4 engine. You guys seem sidetracked. bold and underlined ^
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Ronin Merc
Defenders of the Helghast Dream The Ditanian Alliance
9
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit. The problem is that you have an art director that very bent on keeping the theme. Would it be impossible for him to design structures in UE4? What's so special about UE3 that stops him from keeping the theme in other engines? Point of this thread is about the possibility of using UE4 engine. You guys seem sidetracked.
Unfortunately some would rather derail the thread so people are not thinking about the fact that the game could be better.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit. The problem is that you have an art director that very bent on keeping the theme. Would it be impossible for him to design structures in UE4? What's so special about UE3 that stops him from keeping the theme in other engines? Point of this thread is about the possibility of using UE4 engine. You guys seem sidetracked. Unfortunately some would rather derail the thread so people are not thinking about the fact that the game could be better. I wonder if his corn cob keeps him from using bar stools.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:For example, if a race of humans had crash landed on a planet on a ship full of subservient nanomachines... and they had a technology wipe like the EvE pioneers had, the populations might eventually figure out how to get the machines to build objects, and hence believe it to be a form of sorcery etc. As a result the population would never learn about biology, such as bacteria and viruses, and believe that exorcism is the cure for all ailments. (as in using the nanomachines to take care of things)
That's not generally how it goes, at least not for long. Generally when someone is intelligent enough to get a machine to work it means they have an (though limited) understanding of mechanical engineering. Because let's face it, a bunch of agrarian-level inhabitants will never be able to get a machine to turn on if they don't even know what powers it let alone how to recreate such a power source. So unless someone in their society happens to be a skilled tinkerer who loves to experiment with all kinds of mechanical things, they'll never get around to getting those machines to work. Of course, such tinkerers are often regarded in agrarian societies as eccentric or crazy people.
Quote: This same setup will happen for any kind of technology that one gets suddenly. We can see it in third-world countries around the globe, this very same pattern. People learn only as much as they need to build and use the item, but not anything regarding what the item actually IS.
I find that exceedingly hard to believe because if a group of people learned how to build and use a tool, by then they will have learned and understood what the tool is mainly because they built it. Now if you took away the "build" factor and only taught them how to use it, then they might never fully understand what they were given.
Quote: Now, if you were to upscale that... to the massive degree that EvE has it... and it's an entirely different league of mislead assumptions and un-investigated logic. They can produce it, and they can use it, but their tweaking of the technology is clunky, and innovations are slow, due to the fact they have little understanding of what the core physics and mechanics were in the first place.
That is why the Amarr Empress Jamyl Sarum I had her guys build and use new implants from scratch based on the sleep implants they acquired but without the sleeper taint that the originals had. The first users of the sleeper implants did have problems with the sleeper taint, but after much reverse engineering to the point of being able to make an implant from scratch, this made the Templar program successful later on and then Jamyl offered the improved versions of the implants to the rest of the empires. Everything we learn is clunky and slow at first until we later learn how to refine it and make it more effective.
Quote: Piggybacking on technology that you only investigate as far as how to use, and slight improvements in personal use can have devastating effects. One such example would be the Sleepers. The capsuleers don't know they why or how about these entities, and yet they are still allowing such technology to be spread throughout their homes.
See my last statement regarding the Empress.
Also, the capsule technology used by Eve capsuleers was given by the Jove Directorate under collaboration with the Ishukone Corporation which wasn't implemented cluster wide until well after all of the trial and errors have worked out the kinks. The Jovians are human as well. Only genetically and technologically advanced since they were the only ones that never lost their technology when the Eve Gate collapsed.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. You mean water and trees?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:55:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit. The problem is that you have an art director that very bent on keeping the theme. Would it be impossible for him to design structures in UE4? What's so special about UE3 that stops him from keeping the theme in other engines? Point of this thread is about the possibility of using UE4 engine. You guys seem sidetracked. Unfortunately some would rather derail the thread so people are not thinking about the fact that the game could be better.
I want the game to be better. Hell, it would be great if Dust was ported over with UE4.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:58:00 -
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The Jove empire wasn't exactly around during the gate collaspe; remember they dug up sleepers as we would have dug up ancient egyptians. Just that they had a first crack at not just sleepers but all the terran tech they can find; the only ones they left alone where stargates and one missing nova cannon.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:01:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. You mean water and trees?
More like this city looks untouched.
Have to remember there was a significantly very horrific empire wide war 100 years prior and many more minor conflicts since then. I mean having a super carrier slam into your then pristine capital city with no concern for how much damage you're going to cause makes Acurio disaster seem small despite the scale of the sizes of the two ships involved.
Hell more recently Sansha incursions have gotten most worlds on edge now. Its weaking governments as everyone is living in constant fear of being indoctrinated.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Jove empire wasn't exactly around during the gate collaspe; remember they dug up sleepers as we would have dug up ancient egyptians. Just that they had a first crack at not just sleepers but all the terran tech they can find; the only ones they left alone where stargates and one missing nova cannon.
That's strange, I haven't heard of that. The only reference I can find on the Jove is this.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Jove
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:08:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:UNREAL 4 FPS DEMOLook the scout (presuming due to that sprint speed) wandering around what appears to be a Gallente inner metropolis building. It even has a Gallente/Minmatar Pirate Factional Weapon. Plasma accelerated bullets that has a damage profile of +5 to shields/+5 to armor. Tots op. This could be us CCP. Just do it, take our money.
Overall, I prefer UE4 over the UE3 that we have. I'm just curious how long it would take to get it done.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:06:00 -
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I see no new eden!
Where is my burning trees?!
I know you wan't it ( -í° -£-û -í°)
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. You mean water and trees? More like this city looks untouched. Have to remember there was a significantly very horrific empire wide war 100 years prior and many more minor conflicts since then. I mean having a super carrier slam into your then pristine capital city with no concern for how much damage you're going to cause makes Acurio disaster seem small despite the scale of the sizes of the two ships involved. Hell more recently Sansha incursions have gotten most worlds on edge now. Its weaking governments as everyone is living in constant fear of being indoctrinated.
Wow, you don't even understand the lore that you attempt to spout.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. You mean water and trees? More like this city looks untouched. Have to remember there was a significantly very horrific empire wide war 100 years prior and many more minor conflicts since then. I mean having a super carrier slam into your then pristine capital city with no concern for how much damage you're going to cause makes Acurio disaster seem small despite the scale of the sizes of the two ships involved. Hell more recently Sansha incursions have gotten most worlds on edge now. Its weaking governments as everyone is living in constant fear of being indoctrinated.
The Gallente-Caldari War ended about 100 years ago. We had tense standoffs and a conflict over Caldari Prime recently, but nothing major beyond that except for FW battles in low-sec systems. But those are largely fought by Eve capsuleers and Dust mercenaries.
As for Sansha's Nation, the Eve capsuleers seem to be doing alright at keeping Sansha at bay despite the recent emergent threat posed by the Drifters and Circadian Drones entering high-sec space.
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Union118
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:57:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:UNREAL 4 FPS DEMOLook the scout (presuming due to that sprint speed) wandering around what appears to be a Gallente inner metropolis building. It even has a Gallente/Minmatar Pirate Factional Weapon. Plasma accelerated bullets that has a damage profile of +5 to shields/+5 to armor. Tots op. This could be us CCP. Just do it, take our money. Dont take my money. Earn it first ccp. Kira quit making ccp jealous.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 22:02:00 -
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Union118 wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:UNREAL 4 FPS DEMOLook the scout (presuming due to that sprint speed) wandering around what appears to be a Gallente inner metropolis building. It even has a Gallente/Minmatar Pirate Factional Weapon. Plasma accelerated bullets that has a damage profile of +5 to shields/+5 to armor. Tots op. This could be us CCP. Just do it, take our money. Dont take my money. Earn it first ccp. Kira quit making ccp jealous.
Trying to inspire them!
>:]
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Justice Darling
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.03.26 22:28:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:UNREAL 4 FPS DEMOLook the scout (presuming due to that sprint speed) wandering around what appears to be a Gallente inner metropolis building. It even has a Gallente/Minmatar Pirate Factional Weapon. Plasma accelerated bullets that has a damage profile of +5 to shields/+5 to armor. Tots op. This could be us CCP. Just do it, take our money.
That looked like a good Demo for a station fight - the window view of a planet, maybe add some stars and call it a day with some concord and some armageddon's with smartbombs going at it out the window |
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