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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:18:00 -
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Too much earth; I see no new eden here.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:29:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital. Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh?
And nothing here looks like new eden. It looks like earth 2050
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Posted - 2015.03.26 03:40:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital. Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh? And nothing here looks like new eden. It looks like earth 2050 Out.
No
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SMhae7Jf--/18j1kgo0z3kpcjpg.jpg
http://crossingzebras.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/EVE_Source_Page_105_by_Mark_Li.jpg
http://cdn.destructoid.com//ul/262844-eveart.jpg
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:03:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Again. 1000s of temperate and settled worlds.
I guarantee you that at least a few of them look like that.
No considering we fight on most of them.
http://40.media.tumblr.com/24b682560681bd3180136b6c605ee7d6/tumblr_nl5u36xWjD1u3t3e6o9_1280.jpg
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:38:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:But we never fight in the cities. We are always fighting in industrial settings. I imagine a Gallente City looks a lot like that.
No; its a dank rainy place that would remind you more of the cities of Bladerunner and not Star Trek
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:48:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:
There are probably tens of thousands of Gallente Cities... I highly doubt they are all dystopian slum cities on rainy planets... At least a few of them have to be nice like that. Maybe a place where only the well-to-do Gallente live?
What on Earth makes you think that every city in New Eden is stereotypical to their Empire?
I'm sure there are beautiful and nasty cities all over the place in New Eden... Even the Minmatar probably have some seriously nice places.
That city, is in my opinion, the spitting image of what a rich and well maintained Gallente City looks like.
Sterotypical Eve; try that for size.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:12:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
There are probably tens of thousands of Gallente Cities... I highly doubt they are all dystopian slum cities on rainy planets... At least a few of them have to be nice like that. Maybe a place where only the well-to-do Gallente live?
What on Earth makes you think that every city in New Eden is stereotypical to their Empire?
I'm sure there are beautiful and nasty cities all over the place in New Eden... Even the Minmatar probably have some seriously nice places.
That city, is in my opinion, the spitting image of what a rich and well maintained Gallente City looks like.
Sterotypical Eve; try that for size. Whatever. You are just being difficult to be difficult at this point.
More like you have to understand there is a tone with eve that is raw and ugly as the human soul; and quite similar to things in nature; the prettier it is the deadlier. Eve is a morbid place where people who carve their own paths of hope have very filthy hands. The best intentions paved on the roads of bones and the rivers of blood of those whose dreams they crush. Not even the SOE are free of this sin.
It's a cruel universe, it i s a universe where destruction and chaos rule; and because of that it is beautiful in its own right.
There is no way this could ever be a level in Dust 514; or anywhere in New Eden.
Also hexagons?
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:21:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. Luminaire is a temperate world that was fully terraformed before the EVE Gate collapsed. It probably looks a lot like Earth, considering it was terraformed by people from Earth... And there are 1000s of temperate and terraformed planets in New Eden... 7200 to be exact. It would be will to think than none of them look like Earth. Just one problem. None of the buildings in the video look remotely like what I expect to see in New Eden. Not enough gold, so it can't be Amarrian. Not dull-looking or muted enough in color, so it can't be Caldari. No rust in sight, so it can't be Minmatar. Could be Gallentean but I don't see Quafe being advertised.
Those are not Gallente buildings at all. Hell they dont even fit the generic prefabs of new eden and those are the closest to earthen designs we have.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:32:00 -
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pfft the rich gallente cannot be sustained that far away; just not economical at all. Also what sort of society would they be if they kept the poor out? They have to be inclusive after all even if its in pain and suffering and misery.
Also not sure if you check but humans are pretty much a bunch of natural ruining assholes in new eden. The fact we have so many planets makes us squander most of it.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:39:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. What are you talking about, there are flying cars, the windows is shaped like the game slay, and the plasma accelerator on the gun. Tots new eden. Plus the open ceiling, that's just begging for an orbital. Are you a CCP double agent trying to upstage the PS4 movement bruh? And nothing here looks like new eden. It looks like earth 2050 so your saying a world with actual lifelike detail cant possibly be a new eden? New eden sucks
No no no just this environment is entirely wrong; the very fist UE4 demo from last years E3 was far more fitting; there are others. This however screams star trek.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:48:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Regardless whether the demo is New Eden or not(how gives a f*ck), it looks amazing and CCP has to step up and evolve if they want to become respectable developers.
This does not erase the insult the notion of trying to compare it to new eden
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Posted - 2015.03.26 06:10:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Nope. According to EvE lore... All history of Earth was demolished when the gates collapsed. Technology took a massive dive, and they have been slowly rebuilding. Eventually, after their technology became sufficient, they found the ruins of earth starships etc, and salvaged them to learn the technology.
All of the technology they use has been "found" from one point or another, they didn't really develop it themselves. Every race are basically scavengers of some kind or another trying to make their mark in this arena of conflict. It is highly unlikely that they learned of ecology, environmental safety, or even former earth aesthetics because they were given large leaps of which overrode many of the potential points where such things could have been learned. And with all these planets available, why preserve one planet, when you can just move to another? Turn subject planets into garbage yards, and not even bother with pollution standards. They found the technology to let them survive indefinitely in space, so why would a ruined atmosphere mean anything to them?
No doubt, that only the elite of the elite get to live in cities that are so open and under populated. But those cities would be HEAVILY engineered to fulfill a certain architecture style. Most of the planets are war-zones caused by the masses of mini corporations vying for property and sales presence. You have to remember that unless it is one of the core home worlds, the governments really couldn't care less what happens on them.
As mentioned before, the only lands that would have such open architecture would be for the highly wealthy... which would mean a massive selection of personal armadas circling the planet ready to intercept even the smallest bug that would try an uninvited landing. If combat did happen to take place on the ground, there would have to be more crashed ships than buildings littering the landscape. In terms of modern inhabitants of New Eden, you're correct. But in terms of human history from the moment we first drew animals on cave walls back on Earth to the moment Dust Mercenaries and Eve Capsuleers dominate the cluster in New Eden, we have developed the technology ourselves. We just had to relearn it. PS: Back on earth, it was believed that the first computer was developed during World War II. But archaeologists later discovered that the first real computer was developed by the Ancient Greeks long before the fall of the Roman Empire. Of course, the ancient computer was completely analog but served its function as a computer complete with input/output features.
Geocentric earth calculators where awesome! (And still frighteningly accurate) took us a rather long time to reverse engineer it.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 06:50:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
In terms of modern inhabitants of New Eden, you're correct. But in terms of human history from the moment we first drew animals on cave walls back on Earth to the moment Dust Mercenaries and Eve Capsuleers dominate the cluster in New Eden, we have developed the technology ourselves. We just had to relearn it.
PS: Back on earth, it was believed that the first computer was developed during World War II. But archaeologists later discovered that the first real computer was developed by the Ancient Greeks long before the fall of the Roman Empire. Of course, the ancient computer was completely analog but served its function as a computer complete with input/output features.
Ehrm.... That's not quite an accurate way to look at this problem. There is a MASSIVE gap between understanding how to get something to work by copying it's fabrication point for point, and understanding the reasons of WHY something works, and HOW this conclusion was expected. For example, if a race of humans had crash landed on a planet on a ship full of subservient nanomachines... and they had a technology wipe like the EvE pioneers had, the populations might eventually figure out how to get the machines to build objects, and hence believe it to be a form of sorcery etc. As a result the population would never learn about biology, such as bacteria and viruses, and believe that exorcism is the cure for all ailments. (as in using the nanomachines to take care of things) This same setup will happen for any kind of technology that one gets suddenly. We can see it in third-world countries around the globe, this very same pattern. People learn only as much as they need to build and use the item, but not anything regarding what the item actually IS. Now, if you were to upscale that... to the massive degree that EvE has it... and it's an entirely different league of mislead assumptions and un-investigated logic. They can produce it, and they can use it, but their tweaking of the technology is clunky, and innovations are slow, due to the fact they have little understanding of what the core physics and mechanics were in the first place. Piggybacking on technology that you only investigate as far as how to use, and slight improvements in personal use can have devastating effects. One such example would be the Sleepers. The capsuleers don't know they why or how about these entities, and yet they are still allowing such technology to be spread throughout their homes. Edit: Oh, and regarding the use of the Unreal Engine? https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4Look down near the bottom of the page. See if anything there catches your eye.
Not saying unreal isn't a way forward just stating the example being boasted as an insult to dust 514 fails as the architecture presented looks nothing like what we have.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 07:33:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:The actual shapes used inside of the building are highly gallente. Large, thick, curved objects.
The color scemes, however, only have a slight resemblance. And the exterior doesn't look terribly Gallente at all.
The cityscape itself looks nothing like something out of New Eden.
Hexa.... gons....
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:19:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:The actual shapes used inside of the building are highly gallente. Large, thick, curved objects.
The color scemes, however, only have a slight resemblance. And the exterior doesn't look terribly Gallente at all.
The cityscape itself looks nothing like something out of New Eden. Hexa.... gons.... CCP does have an obsession with them. It's true.
No do they not; its an extremely rare shape only featured about... 4 times entirely outside of shields and cloaks.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:40:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:It's completely crazy to insinuate that their isn't Planet Hilton Marriott where the sun is shining and you have a few lawns.
I'm guessing none of the planets are subject to terraformed coasts where water meets land, also known as a beach? Wolfie needs a vacation, get off your warbarge your getting barge fever bruh. Not every single person in New Eden wants to Mine rocks or be born in a human goo robot to continually fight an endless war, or fly around in a jet fighter to get blown up all the time (soon).
Some just want to relax, feel the sun, swim, read, and be.
Your just used to the war-torn industrial sectors. I'll take you on a vacay (my treat) show you the finer things in life. Just don't be a weirdo and walk around in your caldari suit.
The problem is that you have an art director that very bent on keeping the theme.
Are there plenty of places like this? not as likely as you think; but the common theme is that the more man gets involved in a place the more ruinious it becomes. Also we're borderline terrraforming capabilities. Lots of places are not earthlike at all but rather entire profiles of some extreme places on earth. We certainly don't have the capabilities of turning barren and desert worlds into oasis. Hell caldari prime has had more than 800 years to get warmed up the damn place is still an effing snowball.
Its likely why people rather take their vacations on stations than planets.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:58:00 -
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The Jove empire wasn't exactly around during the gate collaspe; remember they dug up sleepers as we would have dug up ancient egyptians. Just that they had a first crack at not just sleepers but all the terran tech they can find; the only ones they left alone where stargates and one missing nova cannon.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:01:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Too much earth; I see no new eden here. You mean water and trees?
More like this city looks untouched.
Have to remember there was a significantly very horrific empire wide war 100 years prior and many more minor conflicts since then. I mean having a super carrier slam into your then pristine capital city with no concern for how much damage you're going to cause makes Acurio disaster seem small despite the scale of the sizes of the two ships involved.
Hell more recently Sansha incursions have gotten most worlds on edge now. Its weaking governments as everyone is living in constant fear of being indoctrinated.
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