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Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5866	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:27:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys, here's my recording of the DUST 514 - Collected Learnings roundtable at Fanfest 2015. I didn't bring a tripod, so most of the shaking is me shifting what hand I was holding up the camera with to avoid dying or loosing my grip on the camera. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_RgGJpoUeg Still processing as of this posting, but I need to make the bus back into town. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game RUST415 661	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:36:00 - [2] - Quote Thanks for uploading this, looking forward to seeing it. Awesome
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5870	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:38:00 - [3] - Quote Now that Im on my phone, I can't check it. Let me know when it works. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Foehammerr Dead Man's Game RUST415 156	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:40:00 - [4] - Quote How long till we can watch it? *De Opresso Liber* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy 1066	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:40:00 - [5] - Quote not so annoyed any more im not crazy......( -í° -£-û -í°)
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 15588	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:42:00 - [6] - Quote It processed gentlemen! 240p for now, but it's watchable. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
DiablosMajora 51	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:43:00 - [7] - Quote Tis up! Prepare your angus
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5878	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:45:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: It processed gentlemen! 240p for now, but it's watchable. Should be 720p... CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 15588	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:45:00 - [9] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It processed gentlemen! 240p for now, but it's watchable. Should be 720p... There's some more processing Youtube needs to do. Either that or it screwed you. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 22929	Posted - 2015.03.19 21:52:00 - [10] - Quote 1:05, a fine assembly of neckbeards. Gallente Guide RIP MAG - Raven vet

postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy 1108	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:02:00 - [11] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Hey guys, here's my recording of the DUST 514 - Collected Learnings roundtable at Fanfest 2015. I didn't bring a tripod, so most of the shaking is me shifting what hand I was holding up the camera with to avoid dying or loosing my grip on the camera. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_RgGJpoUeg Still processing as of this posting, but I need to make the bus back into town. THX about this, i started to be really negative, but that talk about MAG style Objective based mod is interesting. But still not full racials. "Sebiestor Hetzer"
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback. 4783	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:03:00 - [12] - Quote Thanks for filming and uploading this! Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 15595	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:10:00 - [13] - Quote 720p now available. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4322	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:23:00 - [14] - Quote Someone do a TL:DR of it please. I'm not expecting that much to begin with though. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game 1879	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:34:00 - [15] - Quote Is he ******* talking about pve answering the first question or am I completely drunk? One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy 1110	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:35:00 - [16] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Is he ***** talking about pve answering the first question or am I completely drunk? Nope you are not, but still "just maybe". Do not forget WoD and how it finished. "Sebiestor Hetzer**"
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3564	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:44:00 - [17] - Quote Thanks for taking the time. Big shout out to SMB! So that's where you are! :)
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 1077	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:45:00 - [18] - Quote Thanks for uploading this. Very valuable - and motivational - to hear it. I was surprised that Rattati presented ideas for a medium term future for Dust and everyone just rolled with it. Personally I was surprised to hear ideas that reach out further than 6 months. Apparently Dust is in fact not dead at all.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 547	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:50:00 - [19] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Is he ******* talking about pve answering the first question or am I completely drunk? Don't get your hopes up bro, he said rudimentary AI, and that it's far from being implemented. It's experimental. They probalbly took the drone art assets of the old dust trailers and use some sort of simple turret AI to make them fire on the players. He even said you would be able to move back and they stop to shoot... So basically just like turrets that look like drones. Maybe moving on premade paths (but that's already speculation on my side). Edit: I would however like this, especcially if they could iterate on that, and bring a proper drone infestation mode in later versions... but not very probable, and I'm already starting to get my hopes up.... bad merc... really bad merc!
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3252	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:52:00 - [20] - Quote That passion for dust is real. Thanks for the upload! Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5889	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:55:00 - [21] - Quote He's really talking more like primitive stuff it seems, enough to try out guns and learn to play, bit not like a sophisticated PvE. This is actually not something I was expecting either.. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4184	Posted - 2015.03.19 22:57:00 - [22] - Quote Someone with a TL DR written version? Please, I'm not a master at oral comprehension. Pimp my Barge
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy 1070	Posted - 2015.03.19 23:01:00 - [23] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: He's really talking more like primitive stuff it seems, enough to try out guns and learn to play, bit not like a sophisticated PvE. This is actually not something I was expecting either.. If he does so he could make some awesome lore events........maybe Sleepers hacking into our trainning drones building labs and such for something.... Or Sleeper Drones (Designed for ground combat)deploying from orbit in random public matches by sleeper ships looking for some kind of techonolgy and we have to kill asmany as them as we can (they are very strong) then ccp looks at howmany we killed and gives us Jove weapons and suits (howmany we get is based on howmuch the player killed) made from salvaged Sleeper drone parts im not crazy......( -í° -£-û -í°)
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 548	Posted - 2015.03.19 23:02:00 - [24] - Quote My guess is that they already had the drone mode in the works, so he at least has some art assets to work with. But without somebody who knows how to programm stuff like that, it has to be as simple as possible. Which also makes it impossible to use it to earn isk, since it would be to easy if they have no proper AI to shoot back effectively. Check this out at 2:00min That was the promise, but obviously something went wrong, or somebody just couldn't find the Duct Tape in his cubicle...
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5891	Posted - 2015.03.19 23:08:00 - [25] - Quote Well, they had drone art assets for that trailer they did. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game 1879	Posted - 2015.03.19 23:09:00 - [26] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: He's really talking more like primitive stuff it seems, enough to try out guns and learn to play, bit not like a sophisticated PvE. This is actually not something I was expecting either.. Yes exactly I did not really expect anything about this, that s why I was so surprised to hear him talking about drones and stuff. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9452	Posted - 2015.03.19 23:18:00 - [27] - Quote Since it seems pretty clear the models for the drones are already there, and an AI aiming mechanism is already there from the turrets, I'd be fine with simply deploying to random map with my 6 person max squad to shoot at stationary drones that respawn in the same places every so often. No time limit on this mode, no ISK gain, no skill point gain.And again, not even being able to choose your map or deploy with anything more than your squad because I'm trying to think of the simplest thing possible. This mode would be good for exploring the maps looking for good vantage points and routes, working on some game tactics, and getting a sense for just how much more DPS one fit does opposed to another or how much more tank one fit has opposed to another (from a hands on sense opposed to numerical sense). Turn FF on for hilarity. When you're done leave the "match" and try again and hope you get the map you want. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17773	Posted - 2015.03.19 23:25:00 - [28] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Since it seems pretty clear the models for the drones are already there, and an AI aiming mechanism is already there from the turrets, I'd be fine with simply deploying to random map with my 6 person max squad to shoot at stationary drones that respawn in the same places every so often. No time limit on this mode, no ISK gain, no skill point gain.And again, not even being able to choose your map or deploy with anything more than your squad because I'm trying to think of the simplest thing possible. This mode would be good for exploring the maps looking for good vantage points and routes, working on some game tactics, and getting a sense for just how much more DPS one fit does opposed to another or how much more tank one fit has opposed to another (from a hands on sense opposed to numerical sense). Turn FF on for hilarity. When you're done leave the "match" and try again and hope you get the map you want. GET DOWN AERO! Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy 1094	Posted - 2015.03.19 23:38:00 - [29] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Since it seems pretty clear the models for the drones are already there, and an AI aiming mechanism is already there from the turrets, I'd be fine with simply deploying to random map with my 6 person max squad to shoot at stationary drones that respawn in the same places every so often. No time limit on this mode, no ISK gain, no skill point gain.And again, not even being able to choose your map or deploy with anything more than your squad because I'm trying to think of the simplest thing possible. This mode would be good for exploring the maps looking for good vantage points and routes, working on some game tactics, and getting a sense for just how much more DPS one fit does opposed to another or how much more tank one fit has opposed to another (from a hands on sense opposed to numerical sense). Turn FF on for hilarity. When you're done leave the "match" and try again and hope you get the map you want. Then we could have a competive pve slayer fits Highly aggresive Drones 80 clones one cru The drones are deployed from space (by orbitals or something) Total amount of drones is 50 deployed in one match im not crazy......( -í° -£-û -í°)
Foehammerr Dead Man's Game RUST415 156	Posted - 2015.03.20 00:27:00 - [30] - Quote There was a discussion of EVE DUST connection/lore and no one thought to talk about sansha incursions, let alone anything having to do with any of the new Content coming out in eve with all the new stations, hubs, and POSes. Rattati is really pushing for the Raid system, this could really work in eve as a preliminary strike for a major offensive in null sov space, exactly the same as how he wants it for PC. *De Opresso Liber* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5924	Posted - 2015.03.20 00:35:00 - [31] - Quote Foehammerr wrote: Rattati is really pushing for the Raid system, this could really work in eve as a preliminary strike for a major offensive in null sov space, exactly the same as how he wants it for PC. PC is very much DUST's version of null sov. If PC was working well, and DUST was working well, I don't think it's crazy talk to think about PC and the sov system being integrated down the road. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 187	Posted - 2015.03.20 00:43:00 - [32] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Foehammerr wrote: Rattati is really pushing for the Raid system, this could really work in eve as a preliminary strike for a major offensive in null sov space, exactly the same as how he wants it for PC. PC is very much DUST's version of null sov. If PC was working well, and DUST was working well, I don't think it's crazy talk to think about PC and the sov system being integrated down the road. If CCP cared about connection they would had done a better at trying to do it since the game been out. The office at Iceland has to put work work in this as well and the Dust team is small. I doubt anything will come up.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2226	Posted - 2015.03.20 00:52:00 - [33] - Quote Am I the only one who is happy to learn BPO's and Boosters will be tradable? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Foehammerr Dead Man's Game RUST415 156	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:04:00 - [34] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Foehammerr wrote: Rattati is really pushing for the Raid system, this could really work in eve as a preliminary strike for a major offensive in null sov space, exactly the same as how he wants it for PC. PC is very much DUST's version of null sov. If PC was working well, and DUST was working well, I don't think it's crazy talk to think about PC and the sov system being integrated down the road. If CCP cared about connection they would had done a better at trying to do it since the game been out. The office at Iceland has to put work work in this as well and the Dust team is small. I doubt anything will come up. The can mess with PC all they want, but at this point not much is going to convince new people that never done pc to play it . Only maybe older players that played it to try it. It's like you didn't even watch the video which would have made that comment moot. JL3Eleven wrote: Am I the only one who is happy to learn BPO's and Boosters will be tradable? I am also excited. I imagine boosters, especially omega and faction boosters will be our PLEX *De Opresso Liber* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 802	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:12:00 - [35] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Am I the only one who is happy to learn BPO's and Boosters will be tradable? no, no you are not... But First, thanks to Soraya for uploading this stuff, you really came through! Second, let's hear it for Rattati man... I mean, where are Rouge or CCP-Z? fired already or working on legion? Ceo of CCP giggles when he talks about Dust and jokingly asks if there are fans in the room... I think rattati is really putting his back under Dust. Yeah he's getting paid for it but think about it... He's crunching numbers, taking old art assets into the game, trying stuff, painting stuff, making planetairy conquest changes, and so on and so forth. That's one hell of a job for one man to think about...+ getting flack from the forums for it. So props for him! GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 187	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:13:00 - [36] - Quote Foehammerr wrote: Avinash Decker wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Foehammerr wrote: Rattati is really pushing for the Raid system, this could really work in eve as a preliminary strike for a major offensive in null sov space, exactly the same as how he wants it for PC. PC is very much DUST's version of null sov. If PC was working well, and DUST was working well, I don't think it's crazy talk to think about PC and the sov system being integrated down the road. If CCP cared about connection they would had done a better at trying to do it since the game been out. The office at Iceland has to put work work in this as well and the Dust team is small. I doubt anything will come up. The can mess with PC all they want, but at this point not much is going to convince new people that never done pc to play it . Only maybe older players that played it to try it. It's like you didn't even watch the video which would have made that comment moot. JL3Eleven wrote: Am I the only one who is happy to learn BPO's and Boosters will be tradable? I am also excited. I imagine boosters, especially omega and faction boosters will be our PLEX Yeah I did watch the video. CCP at this point is focusing on VR if CCP really cared about Dust/Eve connection they would done much more then they had been. The Iceland office needs to put work into the connection with Dust( like null sec/PC), but thats obviously not the priority right now. It probably won't happen in a long while. Since the team is smaller and working on another project certain things probably won't even happen; either because money, certain people aren't there, time, etc
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy 1197	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:16:00 - [37] - Quote With this trading more people will start buying boosters as free isk......i like this More money in CCP wallets..... im not crazy......( -í° -£-û -í°)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17776	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:19:00 - [38] - Quote Foehammerr wrote: There was a discussion of EVE DUST connection/lore and no one thought to talk about sansha incursions, let alone anything having to do with any of the new Content coming out in eve with all the new stations, hubs, and POSes. Rattati is really pushing for the Raid system, this could really work in eve as a preliminary strike for a major offensive in null sov space, exactly the same as how he wants it for PC. But True Slaves and True Citizens are humanoid enemies. You would have to be able to create such models to adequately represent them. Moreover we know from established cannon that they aggressively target planets with large populations. We do not fight in such locations due to CONCORD restictions. This would require a massive change in CCP's map design as well as a lore shift in the part of CONCORD. Simply easier to work with Rogue Drones than anything else. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
NoExsplosionsMgee Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 346	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:25:00 - [39] - Quote Kinda disapointed that nobody in the Q&A asked about wether or not a transfer to the PlayStation 4 was going to be a thing for Dust. You'd would think that a question like that would be extremely important to ask when it comes to the future of this game. :\ PRAISE THE SUN!! \ \|Gö¼\|' /
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy 1197	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:26:00 - [40] - Quote Rogue Drones - Escaped from labs as testing subjects creating and manufacturing more drones and upgrading thier self. Only appearing after battles to salvage whats left of the gear left by the immortal soliders to upgrade thier weaponry systems. im not crazy......( -í° -£-û -í°)

STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 471	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:27:00 - [41] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Pagl1u M wrote: Is he ******* talking about pve answering the first question or am I completely drunk? Don't get your hopes up bro, he said rudimentary AI, and that it's far from being implemented. It's experimental. They probalbly took the drone art assets of the old dust trailers and use some sort of simple turret AI to make them fire on the players. He even said you would be able to move back and they stop to shoot... So basically just like turrets that look like drones. Maybe moving on premade paths (but that's already speculation on my side). Edit: I would however like this, especcially if they could iterate on that, and bring a proper drone infestation mode in later versions... but not very probable, and I'm already starting to get my hopes up.... bad merc... really bad merc! Did my homework on this one brah... http://www.reddit.com/r/dust514/comments/1wdbig/jobsccpgames_ai_programmer_shanghai/ They hired this guy last summer. You don't hire someone for rudimentary AI. CCP is tossing money at Dust 514 this late in the cycle... Follow the money... http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 550	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:27:00 - [42] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Am I the only one who is happy to learn BPO's and Boosters will be tradable? He said however not at first... So the first iteration, will be without Blueprint and Booster trading!
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5927	Posted - 2015.03.20 01:46:00 - [43] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Am I the only one who is happy to learn BPO's and Boosters will be tradable? He said however not at first... So the first iteration, will be without Blueprint and Booster trading! The biggest reason for this is exploit prevention. If there's a bug in the system, and it moves around some AUR items, no big deal. If there's a bug in the system and it starts screwing with thousands of people's AUR items, that's a much bigger problem to fix. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2228	Posted - 2015.03.20 02:15:00 - [44] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Am I the only one who is happy to learn BPO's and Boosters will be tradable? He said however not at first... So the first iteration, will be without Blueprint and Booster trading! Thanks for telling me what I already know! Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Dreis Shadowweaver Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 2251	Posted - 2015.03.20 02:39:00 - [45] - Quote Please, TL;DR??? Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis(Ishukone Nova Knives)saxonmish
P14GU3 UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E 1368	Posted - 2015.03.20 03:15:00 - [46] - Quote First off, thanks to Soroya for this video. This is exactly the type of thing the CPM is here for IMO. Secondly, some of you may know that I'm one of these crappy bittervets who probably b-ítches and trolls more than I do anything constructive on these forums. I've banged heads with Rattati and others in pretty much every subforum dust has. I've even been banned a few times for it. But I know we all just want to see dust thrive instead of crumble. There are a lot of good (and bad) ideas on these forums, and this little roundtable allows me some glimmer of hope that this game can be what it once was destined to be. Rattati seems to be on the right track for the most part ( myofibs) with the PvE,? instructions after the first few battles for new players (one thing I suggested in the survey,) and new gamemode type. Honestly, I didn't really expect anything from the Dust team for fanfest, and maybe that's why I have my hopes up a bit now, but I like what the future (may) hold for dust. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4334	Posted - 2015.03.20 03:27:00 - [47] - Quote So Acq from MAG but is a movable objective but you have to hack it and then it moves and it requires new tactics like no camping. New matchmaking code, splits playerbase into 2 based off of quality, vets fight each other and noobs fight each other. Trading, unlocked in stages, BPO/boosters included 32player non PVP mode, idiot drones Is that it really? The audience all of 7people didn't even ask any relevent questions like what is the future for the game? You could have put this on a postcard and sent it to fanfest from china, i'm sure hilmar wouldn't have mind just giving a quick read to the audience which contained the only dust player there. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
P14GU3 UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E 1369	Posted - 2015.03.20 03:30:00 - [48] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: words Did you really expect anything more? Im surprised we are getting that much in the next 6 months or so TBH.. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4334	Posted - 2015.03.20 03:40:00 - [49] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: words Did you really expect anything more? Im surprised we are getting that much in the next 6 months or so TBH.. TBH i expected nothing and everything. But considering matchmaking will remain broke i bet, the new mode maybe slightly intresting for 5mins or so after everyone has got bored running around the map like a headless chicken and trading will liven things up and players via for BPOs and boosters with ISK. That really basic PVE with idiot drones could be good if they did a your squad against an unlimited amount and see how long you last with decent rewards the longer it goes on. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2798	Posted - 2015.03.20 03:44:00 - [50] - Quote Interesting discussion. I'm very disappointed CCP Rouge wasn't there. Also, I completely disagree with the point of lasers being different colors just for the hell of it. That's tacky. There are times when DUST should differ from EVE, like the complexity of EVE's damage types and ammo is unnecessarily complex, or overheating modules and burning them out/repairing them with nanite paste etc. But there is a lot more DUST should be taking from EVE like rich ewar (target painting, tracking disruptors, webs, neuts, sensor damps etc.), capacitors, shield repair, the richness of module choices, etc. Having lasers with colors that represent their ranges is one of those aspects that should be brought over. We can have heavy beam lasers, light turret beam lasers and heavy turret beam lasers (even a shorter range beam variant--perhaps the assault?), all with different ranges and corresponding colors. This gives tactical information to your enemy and adds richness to the game. We loose the ability to do this when we start using different colors just because they're pretty. That's shortsighted and could limit cool gameplay opportunities down the road. I really wish CCP Rattati (the rest of the DUST team too) could spend a few hours each week in frigate brawls with Red vs. Blue in EVE. I think capturing that fast-paced style of EVE combat would be excellent for DUST and work well as a model for how vehicle combat should work in DUST. DUST would be a lot richer if our lead developer had a better connection to EVE (the intense, fast-paced parts at least). It's great that CCP Rattati has a background in FPS games (that's a must really), but to truly do DUST justice they need to really "get" EVE (perhaps to a lesser degree, but it still needs to be there). I'm most excited about player trading and the proposed matchmaking improvements. Player trading is much needed, and if Boosters can be sold for ISK, it is my hope that this can be used as an analogue for PLEX in DUST. If we ever got to the point where real money could be used to get ISK through a reliable market mechanism, the next logical step imo, is to delete all AUR gear (excluding BPO's) - converting it to the equivalent ISK versions, and unlock STD, ADV, & PRO at level 1 of the respective skill. This would radically clean up the database, and the market windows. That's a kind of tiericide I could get behind because anyone can use PRO stuff, it's just a matter of having the ISK to pay for it. I'm pretty sure revenue would go up with this model. Best PvE idea ever!

NoExsplosionsMgee Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 348	Posted - 2015.03.20 04:55:00 - [51] - Quote bump PRAISE THE SUN!! \ \|Gö¼\|' /
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2569	Posted - 2015.03.20 06:53:00 - [52] - Quote Thanks for posting this Soraya. Sounds like the PVE mode is going to be glorified target practice with fairly dumb drones, but that's a perfect environment for new peeps(and old) to get a handle on weapons, etc. Making it on the cheap with existing assets and primitive AI is fine, giving new players a stress-free place to experiment would be valuable for the NPE. PSN: RationalSpark
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 329	Posted - 2015.03.20 07:29:00 - [53] - Quote I know dust is a different style of game but this is eszentially whats eve had for years. Ships that sat there and pretty much did nothing unless you got close/triggered them or shot them. This could also be available for different numbers of players similar to raids maybe (could this work solo?). Perhaps it could also be a daily mission? So that players are compelled to be involved for some extra rewards, salvage maybe since drones are supposed to be scavengers. Have the drones in groups around objectives like a wreck so that its like you are capturing it then hack it to claim salvage for yourself/your team. I would also suggest that these are presented as a list of possible salvage sites maybe from an agent rather than battlefinder somehow, it is still a lobby experience but i feel battlefinder only increases this awareness. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 551	Posted - 2015.03.20 09:52:00 - [54] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Am I the only one who is happy to learn BPO's and Boosters will be tradable? He said however not at first... So the first iteration, will be without Blueprint and Booster trading! Thanks for telling me what I already know! Just a clarification for everybody else, otherwise people would get their hopes up for the first release of simple trading.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 3582	Posted - 2015.03.20 10:13:00 - [55] - Quote from the very beginning, every item was planned to be tradeable, it was part of the long term plan to have boosters and other AUR items to be the dust equivalent of EVE's PLEX. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Haerr Nos Nothi 2564	Posted - 2015.03.20 11:16:00 - [56] - Quote tl;dr: Vyzion Eyri - Collected learnings from Collected Learnings - A summary? Make sure that you didn't miss watching the Dust 514 2015 Keynote: LINK
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge 1065	Posted - 2015.03.20 11:42:00 - [57] - Quote Old school games had very simple AI and we're still fun.... If I am assuming right and the turrets drop from an mcc in orbit.... What if the mcc has been taken over by a rogue AI but is stuck in orbit... Or wants to be in orbit to get something.... We have to hold the null cannon to take it down but it is dropping turrents on us and hacking back the null cananon randomly..... Hell, put the dumb AI into drop suits, even if hey just stand there and shoot back it would be as if this rogue AI is throwing all it has at us, including the drop suits that we're in storage in its ship that it half hazardly hacked and drop a sub-routine in.... Then perhaps if all goes exceptionally well the could write in the proper AI to make it much more challenging. But from the looks of some of the blues on my team they would have trouble with these "dumb" AI's Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.


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