DUST Search - KrinGÇÖs LEX-71 Damage Modifier: How it stands up to the competition.

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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Soldner VonKuechle wrote:

Sgt Kirk wrote:

VAHZZ wrote:

Wait...THIS is the BPO?

Yes.

Is it bad to say im butthurt that this is the BPO?

can i rename Ratatti to Don Quixote?

Yes. To both.

I don't know why you are so mad about a damage mod BPO. It is also a very unique module. I would rather have a unique mod than a what I though we would get (a Complex myofibril BPO).

And you can call Ratatti that, if you want. He can't stop you, but he can do something about it if he feels like it...

I am greatful that they did take the time to make a unique event reward.
Its just so odd that for a man whos hella-intent on breaking cookie-cutter high damage fits in favor of true balance and fitting freedom, to reward a damage mod BPO. Thats why its Quixotic.

Its also odd that SKINs have had no mention of anything since Ratatti said hes got solid ideas for how to get the UI to respond to handling them, as well as the character models themselves. The forum tinfoil hat club is finally wrong about development progression of forum feedback, dev plans, silence, implementation. So i guess they're still working on it (damn optimisism sneaking in there)

sigh, i guess i just have to wait longer for performance updates.
time for glass-cannon Exile AR fits!

"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

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Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2584	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:04:00 - [1] - Quote I'll preface this by stating that it pretty much fits the role of omni-damage mod perfectly. It is useful for that, but not much else. If you use two weapon types, it will be useful to you, if not, then it probably won't be as useful as the damage mods we already have. As such, I won't be comparing it to stacking one type of damage mod. I'll be comparing it to using different combinations of mods. Let's begin. GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 EnhLDM & x1 EnhSDMGÇó +2.62% Light Damage +2.63% Sidearm Damage -30 CPU usage GÇóuses no ISK Winner: Krin's GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 CxLDM & x1 EnhSDMGÇó +1.62% Light Damage +2.62% Sidearm Damage -53 CPU usage -4 PG usage GÇóuses no ISK Winner: Krin's GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 EnhLDM & x1 CxSDMGÇó +2.62% Light Damage +0.62% Sidearm Damage -53 CPU usage -4 PG usage GÇóuses no ISK Winner: Krin's GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 CxLDM & x1 CxSDMGÇó +1.62% Light Damage +0.62% Sidearm Damage -76 CPU usage -8 PG usage GÇóuses no ISK Winner: Krin's As you can see. These modules will be extremely useful for those of us that tend to use both damage mods types in some of our fits, and will have no drawbacks, for better stats. For somebody that equips, say, 3 complex damage mods, however, there will likely be less use, unless you want to expand the weapon you use in combat. Home at Last <3
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9342	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:08:00 - [2] - Quote Will have to double check your math but differently a cool way of putting it. It may have use after all! Just not on commando suits Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Vicious Minotaur 2136	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:17:00 - [3] - Quote Not bad. May see use on some proto fits. But, meh. Myofibrils would have been better. Just sayin'. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2586	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:19:00 - [4] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Will have to double check your math but differently a cool way of putting it. It may have use after all! Just not on commando suits Yeah, it's unfortunate that it isn't very useful for Commandos and Logis(Amlogi will get use out of it for sure though). But I don't see how they could have pleased everyone without making it blatantly OP. 5% would have made it better than pretty much every high slot mod. I'm thrilled about it, personally. For me, this is the equivalent of getting a damage and fitting buff for pretty much all of my fits, along with saving ISK... Like I said, for people that already use two types of damage mods, there is nothing but goodness for us Home at Last <3
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2586	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:21:00 - [5] - Quote Crap. I forgot Complex sidearm mods provide 8% instead of 7. I'll modify them. Krin's still comes out on top, for sure though. Home at Last <3
VAHZZ 867	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:22:00 - [6] - Quote Wait...THIS is the BPO edit: just read the report...dam, was hoping for a weapon or ds but that's cool. Seems interesting fo sure *The supreme art of war, is to subdue the enemy without fighting*.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9842	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:25:00 - [7] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Wait...THIS is the BPO? Yes. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2586	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:25:00 - [8] - Quote Wow. I messed up a bunch of numbers. Krin's still comes out on top in every case, but not as much as I originally thought. I guess I was so excited to share what I though was correct, that I forgot to double check! Home at Last <3
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1708	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:27:00 - [9] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Wait...THIS is the BPO? Yes. Is it bad to say im butthurt that this is the BPO? can i rename Ratatti to Don Quixote? The most Quixotic thing to do, is a BPO damage mod. why the fuck am i surprised?
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2589	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:30:00 - [10] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Wait...THIS is the BPO? Yes. Is it bad to say im butthurt that this is the BPO? can i rename Ratatti to Don Quixote? Yes. To both. I don't know why you are so mad about a damage mod BPO. It is also a very unique module. I would rather have a unique mod than a what I though we would get (a Complex myofibril BPO). And you can call Ratatti that, if you want. He can't stop you, but he can do something about it if he feels like it... Home at Last <3

DRT 99 Commando Perkone Caldari State 231	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:31:00 - [11] - Quote Basic sidearm damage mods start out at 4% not 3% as some others are stating. On that note, this fits perfectly in between basic and adv as far as light weapons go and is a direct upgrade as far as heavy weapons go, compared to adv heavy dmg mods. Also they take the same PG / CPU as militia damage mods - if you use those then you can trade these in for some more damage and less isk
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9345	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:37:00 - [12] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Will have to double check your math but differently a cool way of putting it. It may have use after all! Just not on commando suits Yeah, it's unfortunate that it isn't very useful for Commandos and Logis(Amlogi will get use out of it for sure though). Oh for sure, my Amarr Logi is going to be very happy very soon. I was trying to fit a Complex Light and Sidearm damage mod to my fit (because why on earth does the Amarr Logi ak.0 have a 3/4 H/L slot layout? Got to use the highs on something I guess) but it wasn't quite possible because of fitting costs. That is no longer an issue! On top of that, I always use assault scramblers on my logis which is getting a huge buff, and two of my three equipment slots are deployables (uplinks and hives) which are getting a max carried buff. Ah yes, this will be good. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1708	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:43:00 - [13] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Wait...THIS is the BPO? Yes. Is it bad to say im butthurt that this is the BPO? can i rename Ratatti to Don Quixote? Yes. To both. I don't know why you are so mad about a damage mod BPO. It is also a very unique module. I would rather have a unique mod than a what I though we would get (a Complex myofibril BPO). And you can call Ratatti that, if you want. He can't stop you, but he can do something about it if he feels like it... I am greatful that they did take the time to make a unique event reward. Its just so odd that for a man whos hella-intent on breaking cookie-cutter high damage fits in favor of true balance and fitting freedom, to reward a damage mod BPO. Thats why its Quixotic. Its also odd that SKINs have had no mention of anything since Ratatti said hes got solid ideas for how to get the UI to respond to handling them, as well as the character models themselves. The forum tinfoil hat club is finally wrong about development progression of forum feedback, dev plans, silence, implementation. So i guess they're still working on it (damn optimisism sneaking in there) sigh, i guess i just have to wait longer for performance updates. time for glass-cannon Exile AR fits! When in doubt, take the least expected/most ridiculous and bring it front and center. Thatll fuck em up

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 18373	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:47:00 - [14] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Wait...THIS is the BPO? Yes. Is it bad to say im butthurt that this is the BPO? can i rename Ratatti to Don Quixote? Yes. To both. I don't know why you are so mad about a damage mod BPO. It is also a very unique module. I would rather have a unique mod than a what I though we would get (a Complex myofibril BPO). And you can call Ratatti that, if you want. He can't stop you, but he can do something about it if he feels like it... I am greatful that they did take the time to make a unique event reward. Its just so odd that for a man whos hella-intent on breaking cookie-cutter high damage fits in favor of true balance and fitting freedom, to reward a damage mod BPO. Thats why its Quixotic. Its also odd that SKINs have had no mention of anything since Ratatti said hes got solid ideas for how to get the UI to respond to handling them, as well as the character models themselves. The forum tinfoil hat club is finally wrong about development progression of forum feedback, dev plans, silence, implementation. So i guess they're still working on it (damn optimisism sneaking in there) sigh, i guess i just have to wait longer for performance updates. time for glass-cannon Exile AR fits! All actively being worked on "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9349	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:49:00 - [15] - Quote What are the ISK costs of STD/ADV/PRO damage mods really quick? Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
LT SHANKS You In The Nutz 5393	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:49:00 - [16] - Quote So, on an Assault ak.0, which combination would be better? Complex Light Damage Mod x2 + Complex Sidearm Damage Mod x1 V.S. Krin's BPO Mod x2 + Complex Light Weapon Damage Mod x1
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1708	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:49:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Is it bad to say im butthurt that this is the BPO? can i rename Ratatti to Don Quixote? Yes. To both. I don't know why you are so mad about a damage mod BPO. It is also a very unique module. I would rather have a unique mod than a what I though we would get (a Complex myofibril BPO). And you can call Ratatti that, if you want. He can't stop you, but he can do something about it if he feels like it... I am greatful that they did take the time to make a unique event reward. Its just so odd that for a man whos hella-intent on breaking cookie-cutter high damage fits in favor of true balance and fitting freedom, to reward a damage mod BPO. Thats why its Quixotic. Its also odd that SKINs have had no mention of anything since Ratatti said hes got solid ideas for how to get the UI to respond to handling them, as well as the character models themselves. The forum tinfoil hat club is finally wrong about development progression of forum feedback, dev plans, silence, implementation. So i guess they're still working on it (damn optimisism sneaking in there) sigh, i guess i just have to wait longer for performance updates. time for glass-cannon Exile AR fits! All actively being worked on i hate that it is quite impossible for me personally to be mad at you. When in doubt, take the least expected/most ridiculous and bring it front and center. Thatll fuck em up
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2594	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:52:00 - [18] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: What are the ISK costs of STD/ADV/PRO damage mods really quick? 1,275 3,420 5,595 Home at Last <3
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2641	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:55:00 - [19] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: i hate that it is quite impossible for me personally to be mad at you. I know right? Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2594	Posted - 2015.03.12 04:56:00 - [20] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: So, on an Assault ak.0, which combination would be better? Complex Light Damage Mod x2 + Complex Sidearm Damage Mod x1 V.S. Krin's BPO Mod x2 + Complex Light Weapon Damage Mod x1 Krin's setup: +13.25% Light Damage +7.62% Sidearm Damage Uses 76 less CPU, and 8 less PG. Uses 11,190 less ISK Other setup: +13.51% Light Damage +8% Sidearm Damage Honestly, I'd use the Krin's. Home at Last <3

VAHZZ 867	Posted - 2015.03.12 05:04:00 - [21] - Quote The Krin's is definitely welcomed on my GalAss, I barely use shields anyway. *The supreme art of war, is to subdue the enemy without fighting*.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1389	Posted - 2015.03.12 05:06:00 - [22] - Quote This further proves no one cares about Logis at CCP anymore. No blue tags in our Logi thread in Feedback, no buffs in sight, and now a damage mod BPO? Curious. One of my Alts and my Minmando will use the **** out of this however. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9349	Posted - 2015.03.12 05:13:00 - [23] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: This further proves no one cares about Logis at CCP anymore. No blue tags in our Logi thread in Feedback, no buffs in sight, and now a damage mod BPO? Curious. One of my Alts and my Minmando will use the **** out of this however. Why would a Minmando benefit from this? Assuming you don't have fitting trouble or ISK trouble then two light damage mods will be better. As for logis this is a great benefit to Amarr logis and if CCP ever does the sub-classes idea for logis (two variants per race, 1L 0S 4E and 1L 1S 3E) then other logis could benefit as well. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1389	Posted - 2015.03.12 05:16:00 - [24] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: This further proves no one cares about Logis at CCP anymore. No blue tags in our Logi thread in Feedback, no buffs in sight, and now a damage mod BPO? Curious. One of my Alts and my Minmando will use the **** out of this however. Why would a Minmando benefit from this? Assuming you don't have fitting trouble or ISK trouble then two light damage mods will be better. As for logis this is a great benefit to Amarr logis and if CCP ever does the sub-classes idea for logis (two variants per race, 1L 0S 4E and 1L 1S 3E) then other logis could benefit as well. Minmando because free damage mods. On a Proto fit though, no way. Damage mods on a Logi? That's just wrong, imho. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9349	Posted - 2015.03.12 05:19:00 - [25] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: This further proves no one cares about Logis at CCP anymore. No blue tags in our Logi thread in Feedback, no buffs in sight, and now a damage mod BPO? Curious. One of my Alts and my Minmando will use the **** out of this however. Why would a Minmando benefit from this? Assuming you don't have fitting trouble or ISK trouble then two light damage mods will be better. As for logis this is a great benefit to Amarr logis and if CCP ever does the sub-classes idea for logis (two variants per race, 1L 0S 4E and 1L 1S 3E) then other logis could benefit as well. Minmando because free damage mods. On a Proto fit though, no way. Damage mods on a Logi? That's just wrong, imho. Care to explain what other uses a Logi ak.0 has with 3 high slots? Shields? Get out! Precision? What's the point if you don't amplify and then you're losing armor. Melee? Maybe now that it also includes jump, maybe. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3571	Posted - 2015.03.12 05:23:00 - [26] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: This further proves no one cares about Logis at CCP anymore. No blue tags in our Logi thread in Feedback, no buffs in sight, and now a damage mod BPO? My Amarrian logi enjoys this mod just fine, thank you. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1389	Posted - 2015.03.12 05:38:00 - [27] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Care to explain what other uses a Logi ak.0 has with 3 high slots? Shields? Get out! Precision? What's the point if you don't amplify and then you're losing armor. Melee? Maybe now that it also includes jump, maybe. On an Amarr Logi, which is more focused on Combat than true support? Of course it makes sense. So do precision enhancers. 2 complex gives you last build Scout passive scans. Add the new BPO we just earned and you're good to go. On a purely support and squishy Logi? No point when Ewar and Tank can be fit, imo. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
JDEZ09 Dark Side Alliance 95	Posted - 2015.03.12 05:54:00 - [28] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Will have to double check your math but differently a cool way of putting it. It may have use after all! Just not on commando suits Yeah, it's unfortunate that it isn't very useful for Commandos and Logis(Amlogi will get use out of it for sure though). Oh for sure, my Amarr Logi is going to be very happy very soon. I was trying to fit a Complex Light and Sidearm damage mod to my fit (because why on earth does the Amarr Logi ak.0 have a 3/4 H/L slot layout? Got to use the highs on something I guess) but it wasn't quite possible because of fitting costs. That is no longer an issue! On top of that, I always use assault scramblers on my logis which is getting a huge buff, and two of my three equipment slots are deployables (uplinks and hives) which are getting a max carried buff. Ah yes, this will be good. I use my amarr logis as AV fits from time to time, having these blueprints just might be a good idea for a balance between dealing out swarm damage and being able to defend myself with a sidearm. The pg/cpu is alot less harsh, as well, which means that you can spam the best nanohives on the market, and still have room for great armor plating and repair modules. It is also fantastic for my Tash Murkon logis. They could be budget AV fits
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3492	Posted - 2015.03.12 06:50:00 - [29] - Quote It will fit rather nicely on my advanced Gal Assault with ARR & BrScP -- a suit I use both weapons extensively. Bravo, CCP, on introducing what appears to be a unique yet balanced BPO. [edited to add: Great post Fizzer! Appreciate you running & sharing the numbers.]
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 374	Posted - 2015.03.12 07:36:00 - [30] - Quote I use to put 2 complex light dmg & 1 enh sidearm dmg mod on my proto amarr assault, I'll switch for 2 krin's and 1 comp light! It'll be great on advanced fits mostly ;) Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.



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