DUST Search - KrinGÇÖs LEX-71 Damage Modifier: How it stands up to the competition.

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

I'll preface this by stating that it pretty much fits the role of omni-damage mod perfectly. It is useful for that, but not much else.
If you use two weapon types, it will be useful to you, if not, then it probably won't be as useful as the damage mods we already have.
As such, I won't be comparing it to stacking one type of damage mod.
I'll be comparing it to using different combinations of mods.

Let's begin.

GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 EnhLDM & x1 EnhSDMGÇó
+2.62% Light Damage
+1.62% Sidearm Damage
-30 CPU usage
GÇóuses no ISK
Winner: Krin's

GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 CxLDM & x1 EnhSDMGÇó
+0.62% Light Damage
+1.62% Sidearm Damage
-53 CPU usage
-4 PG usage
GÇóuses no ISK
Winner: Krin's

GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 EnhLDM & x1 CxSDMGÇó
+2.62% Light Damage
-0.27% Sidearm Damage
-53 CPU usage
-4 PG usage
GÇóuses no ISK
Winner: Krin's

GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 CxLDM & x1 CxSDMGÇó
+0.62% Light Damage
-0.27% Sidearm Damage
-76 CPU usage
-8 PG usage
GÇóuses no ISK
Winner: Krin's

As you can see, these modules will be extremely useful for those of us that tend to use both damage mods types in some of our fits, and will have no drawbacks for flat out better stats.
For somebody that equips, say, 3 complex damage mods, however, there will likely be less use, unless you want to expand the weapons you use in combat.

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ANAHEIM Darko Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2015.03.12 09:03:00 - [31] - Quote I for one am happy with this module! --Cellar Door
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5254	Posted - 2015.03.12 09:09:00 - [32] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: This further proves no one cares about Logis at CCP anymore. No blue tags in our Logi thread in Feedback, no buffs in sight, and now a damage mod BPO? Curious. One of my Alts and my Minmando will use the **** out of this however. I am always amazed that literally any issue can turn into "CCP WHY U HATE LOGIS!?" Usually banned for being too awesome.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2607	Posted - 2015.03.12 09:32:00 - [33] - Quote Could I get a Dev explaining how the stacking penalties apply when you use more unorthodox arrangements of damage mods? Usually, when you use damage mods that have different values, it counts the ones with the highest value first. This assures the most efficient damage increase. So if you use, say, a Complex LDM and an Enhanced LDM, the stacking penalty is applied to the Enhanced LDM. Pretty straight forward... But what if you use something like 2 Krin's and Complex LDM? By following the normal logic, I want to assume that the Krin's modules will be reduced at a normal rate, but would the stacking penalty also apply to the Sidearm Damage as well, even though the mod at the bottom of the stack is an LDM and not a SDM? Something like this would make all the difference between these modules being useful or not. The way I see it, 1 of 3 things will happen, and depending on what it is, these mods have highly varied usability. 1.) Stacking Penalty for Damage is applied only to the same damage types. By using an LDM, the effect will only apply to the light damage portion of the Krin's mods. 2.)Stacking Penalty is applied to the whole mod, regardless of what kind of damage mods you use. By using a LDM along with Krin's, you would effectively lowering your sidearm damage, for example. 3.) Stacking penalties don't transfer from other damage mods to Krin's at all. Using a LDM and a Krin's would result in no penalties between the two. Clarification would be greatly appreciated. Home at Last <3
ScI-Iurk Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 65	Posted - 2015.03.12 09:41:00 - [34] - Quote And is it possilbe to fix the numbers in the fitting screen to show the correct values so people can see this for themselfs.
LT SHANKS You In The Nutz 5399	Posted - 2015.03.12 09:48:00 - [35] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: So, on an Assault ak.0, which combination would be better? Complex Light Damage Mod x2 + Complex Sidearm Damage Mod x1 V.S. Krin's BPO Mod x2 + Complex Light Weapon Damage Mod x1 Krin's setup: +13.25% Light Damage +7.62% Sidearm Damage Uses 76 less CPU, and 8 less PG. Uses 11,190 less ISK Other setup: +13.51% Light Damage +8% Sidearm Damage Honestly, I'd use the Krin's. I feel like wetting my pants. Also because the AScR buff is near!
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2608	Posted - 2015.03.12 09:56:00 - [36] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I feel like wetting my pants. Also because the AScR buff is near! Bit of an issue though. We don't know how the relationships work as far as stacking penalties are concerned when using different mods along with the Krin's mods. 1 of 3 things might happen. I'll show you different results depending on what one happens... I'll use 2 Krin's and 1 LDM as my test. 1.) Stacking Penalty for Damage is applied only to the same damage types. By using an LDM, the effect will only apply to the light damage portion of the Krin's mods. +13.25% Light Damage +7.62% Sidearm Damage 2.)Stacking Penalty is applied to the whole mod, regardless of what kind of damage mods you use. By using a LDM along with Krin's, you would effectively be lowering your sidearm damage. +13.25% Light Damage +6.25% Sidearm Damage 3.) Stacking penalties don't transfer from other damage mods to Krin's at all. Using a LDM and a Krin's would result in no penalties between the two. +14.62% Light Damage +7.62% Sidearm Damage As you can see, the results are different, depending on how the game works put the stacking penalties. Home at Last <3
Nirwanda Vaughns 1539	Posted - 2015.03.12 10:00:00 - [37] - Quote it will fit in perfectly with Archdukes Mk.0 seeign as you have all 3 weapon types the BPO is just meant for that suit Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
ROMULUS H3X research lab 371	Posted - 2015.03.12 10:06:00 - [38] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: I'll preface this by stating that it pretty much fits the role of omni-damage mod perfectly. It is useful for that, but not much else. If you use two weapon types, it will be useful to you, if not, then it probably won't be as useful as the damage mods we already have. As such, I won't be comparing it to stacking one type of damage mod. I'll be comparing it to using different combinations of mods. Let's begin. GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 EnhLDM & x1 EnhSDMGÇó +2.62% Light Damage +1.62% Sidearm Damage -30 CPU usage GÇóuses no ISK Winner: Krin's GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 CxLDM & x1 EnhSDMGÇó +0.62% Light Damage +1.62% Sidearm Damage -53 CPU usage -4 PG usage GÇóuses no ISK Winner: Krin's GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 EnhLDM & x1 CxSDMGÇó +2.62% Light Damage -0.27% Sidearm Damage -53 CPU usage -4 PG usage GÇóuses no ISK Winner: Krin's GÇóx2 Krin's [VS] x1 CxLDM & x1 CxSDMGÇó +0.62% Light Damage -0.27% Sidearm Damage -76 CPU usage -8 PG usage GÇóuses no ISK Winner: Krin's As you can see, these modules will be extremely useful for those of us that tend to use both damage mods types in some of our fits, and will have no drawbacks for flat out better stats. For somebody that equips, say, 3 complex damage mods, however, there will likely be less use, unless you want to expand the weapons you use in combat. Have to say it but: These Modules are WORTHLESS untill the WEAPON SWITCH GLITCH/BUG is fixed. Thank you. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 921	Posted - 2015.03.12 11:19:00 - [39] - Quote Reiterate its usefullness for the amarr logi and my other fits where i'm scraping just enough fitting space for something simple left over. It'll be nice on a BPO suit as well. Yet 2 krins vs Two light damage mods or two side arm damage mods and the krins loses every time. Just saying its not bad, but a 9 day 5 million clone event for this super secret BPO, is underwhelming to say the least. Alot of people were expecting suits. Module is a good safe route that gives everybody the option to use, instead of say, caldari quafe CK.0, but it diddn't need a week long challenge for it. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 675	Posted - 2015.03.12 11:33:00 - [40] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Not bad. May see use on some proto fits. But, meh. Myofibrils would have been better. Just sayin'. Yep. Gassault Calogi and more. Respec Pending. `- Open Beta Vet - 38 mil sp - - Director of Corrosive Synergy -`

Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2544	Posted - 2015.03.12 17:40:00 - [41] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: So, on an Assault ak.0, which combination would be better? Complex Light Damage Mod x2 + Complex Sidearm Damage Mod x1 V.S. Krin's BPO Mod x2 + Complex Light Weapon Damage Mod x1 Krin's setup: +13.25% Light Damage +7.62% Sidearm Damage Uses 76 less CPU, and 8 less PG. Uses 11,190 less ISK Other setup: +13.51% Light Damage +8% Sidearm Damage Honestly, I'd use the Krin's. Doing the same thing on my alt's GalScout double damage modded BuAR fitting. PSN: RationalSpark
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2653	Posted - 2015.03.12 17:44:00 - [42] - Quote I will be running tests on Krin's since people are claiming it only applies to sidearm damage. Please queue FW so I can get some friendly fire going for the tests. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Monty Mole Clone Ametat Security Amarr Empire 283	Posted - 2015.03.12 17:57:00 - [43] - Quote is this this mod counted as the same as a normal light or sidearm damage mod by the game because only the same type of mods receive stacking pens? sorry if this is a stupid question Dust 514 hurts Go Fabulous or go home
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6654	Posted - 2015.03.12 18:17:00 - [44] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: So, on an Assault ak.0, which combination would be better? Complex Light Damage Mod x2 + Complex Sidearm Damage Mod x1 V.S. Krin's BPO Mod x2 + Complex Light Weapon Damage Mod x1 Krin's setup: +13.25% Light Damage +7.62% Sidearm Damage Uses 76 less CPU, and 8 less PG. Uses 11,190 less ISK Other setup: +13.51% Light Damage +8% Sidearm Damage Honestly, I'd use the Krin's. With stacking penalties, unless you're using this mod for BPO fits, I wouldn't really use it. It increases damage by 4% to all weapons. Normal heavy and light are 3% boosts, and it has the same CPU and PG of a militia damage mod.
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 237	Posted - 2015.03.12 18:25:00 - [45] - Quote this will be the number 1 damage mod I use on my heavy. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzz0FbBPVUbF6yWex1wb_A
Phosis Norg Mad Clone Posse 24	Posted - 2015.03.23 18:12:00 - [46] - Quote Greetings, I noticed that when I look at the suit stats for a fit where I have a Krin's Damage Mod AND a Complex Light Damage mod, there does not appear to be any stacking. Is that intended? That is, lets say you take have an AR for your Light weapon on an Assault suit, and an SMG for your sidearm (doesn't really matter). You put on a Krin's Damage Mod AND a Complex Light Damage Mod for that fitting. When you display the stats for the fitting, where it shows damage for Light weapon, it will show 1.07, and for Sidearm it will show 1.04. But since the description of the Krin states that it adds 4% damage for ALL handheld weapons, shouldn't the Light weapon damage show 1.11 (or 1.10 with a stacking penalty) ? 4% for Krin + 7% for Complex Light Damage Modd?
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1139	Posted - 2015.03.23 18:23:00 - [47] - Quote When you're killing things, you want more damage to the gun you're using. Complex light dmg mods are winning this. And since you can fit everything proto and complex... then why not? Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List


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