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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.21 21:35:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Can anyone name me a weapon that the Core Focused repair tool can outrep within its optimal?
HMG. ARR. Rare but Viziam SCR can.... oh and FG, PLC
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
826
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Posted - 2015.02.21 22:04:00 -
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@OP- No.
@ Everyone naming off weapons that the Core outreps- No, mostly. A couple of the militia variants, with no prof and no mods, maybe. But all the rest, lolno.
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MRBH1997
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2015.02.22 10:06:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:I believe that reptools are close to what reping armor tanks were, (well we don't need them to turn out like those ) and well i believe that they need an overheat mechanic because the core reps what 80 per seconds thats crazy. All that needs to happen is for the heavy or amarr ass to take cover for a few seconds and then hops back out full HP. Its as if the logi is an extra module. I mean shouldn't the logi repair you when its needed not 24/7 it seems wrong to rep right through damage sheilds cant even do that, and the only vehicle that could got nerfed because of it.
I say no to messing with repair tools, they have never been an issue. Either kill the logi, remote them, or get a heavy to fight them. Logi heavy combo is something that requires tactics, not nerfs.
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iKILLu osborne
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.22 10:20:00 -
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i would much rather deal with heavy & logi combo, then two rep heavies syncing there fire.
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Match Omega
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.02.22 13:02:00 -
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I main logi with 3 different proto logis(amarr, min, gal) so I kind of would like a capacitor, but like the cloak longer the higher the tier, mainly so that logis that only rep and never look else where will actually do other logi work and support the rest of the team like picking people up, or laying down ammo or maybe learn to give some support fire when necessary, because if not the logis of the future are gonna be really dumb, and allot of logis out there already are really dumb |
Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1763
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Posted - 2015.02.22 14:42:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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Mister Goo
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
148
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Posted - 2015.02.22 17:38:00 -
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emm kay wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Can anyone name me a weapon that the Core Focused repair tool can outrep within its optimal? laser rifle, REs, shotgun, CR, scr (if amarr suit), pLc, Forge gun, HMG, burst AR, novas, kalakiota tac. sniper, freedom assault MD.
Alena, thats easy NONE
emm kay just for your knowledge Core focused maxed min skills =156.25 a second Militia Laser no mods/no skills=170 DPS vs Armor Best Repair tool in game can not even out repair the worst armor weapon in the game. There is a problem and it is not the repair tool.
All the rest of the weapons you listed LOLZ but good troll
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Alena Ventrallis
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
2554
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:37:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Can anyone name me a weapon that the Core Focused repair tool can outrep within its optimal? HMG. ARR. Rare but Viziam SCR can.... oh and FG, PLC You're kidding right?
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
10
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:37:00 -
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emm kay wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Can anyone name me a weapon that the Core Focused repair tool can outrep within its optimal? laser rifle, REs, shotgun, CR, scr (if amarr suit), pLc, Forge gun, HMG, burst AR, novas, kalakiota tac. sniper, freedom assault MD.
Some of those need damage mods... more than 1 to rip throughout the core focus
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
637
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:37:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Repair Tools are fine.
This.
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
10
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:52:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Can anyone name me a weapon that the Core Focused repair tool can outrep within its optimal? HMG. ARR. Rare but Viziam SCR can.... oh and FG, PLC You're kidding right?
Whatcha mean by that?
One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
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Alena Ventrallis
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
2557
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Posted - 2015.02.23 00:47:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Can anyone name me a weapon that the Core Focused repair tool can outrep within its optimal? HMG. ARR. Rare but Viziam SCR can.... oh and FG, PLC You're kidding right? Whatcha mean by that? Any weapon that does more than 156 DPS on armor can outDPS the Core Focused. There isn't a weapon in the game that fills this criteria.
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Contemplate what I've been clinging to
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
688
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Posted - 2015.02.23 02:08:00 -
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Actually -- tbh, I kind of agree with the OP. I'm not sure about a heat cool down, but reptools feel a bit OP.
The rep tool always applies 100% of its healing. Guns NEVER apply 100% of their DPS. Saying that it only offsets 1/3rd damage is fallacious.
Does not require aiming. Or even facing.
And the phrase Kill the logi then the heavy will die is also fallacious. In some situations sure -- in many to most not only will the Heavy not die, the logi won't die before the heavy kills you.
I'm a heavy. I like reptools. But even I admit that they are far too efficient and loleasy to use. People wonder why heavies are spammed and blame EHP and HMGs and all sorts of stupid stuff like that when they completely forget about reptools, wheelchair heavies, etc...
It's mindbogglingly stupid. |
Zindorak
Nyain Chan
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Posted - 2015.02.23 02:17:00 -
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tritan abbattere
DBAG CORE
57
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Posted - 2015.02.23 02:52:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Actually -- tbh, I kind of agree with the OP. I'm not sure about a heat cool down, but reptools feel a bit OP.
The rep tool always applies 100% of its healing. Guns NEVER apply 100% of their DPS. Saying that it only offsets 1/3rd damage is fallacious.
Does not require aiming. Or even facing.
And the phrase Kill the logi then the heavy will die is also fallacious. In some situations sure -- in many to most not only will the Heavy not die, the logi won't die before the heavy kills you.
I'm a heavy. I like reptools. But even I admit that they are far too efficient and loleasy to use. People wonder why heavies are spammed and blame EHP and HMGs and all sorts of stupid stuff like that when they completely forget about reptools, wheelchair heavies, etc...
It's mindbogglingly stupid.
Biggest counter to heavy/logi combo is explosives. There a slow And easy to spam explosives at. Logi can't be near a heavy when getting hit by explosives making it harder to repair him. But if you think the rep tool is over powered then instead of nerfing add a hard counter? In eve they have ECM and energy-neutralizers to stop logi from working. I have suggested this in one of my posts called "Active ewar."
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
10
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Posted - 2015.02.23 03:37:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Can anyone name me a weapon that the Core Focused repair tool can outrep within its optimal? HMG. ARR. Rare but Viziam SCR can.... oh and FG, PLC You're kidding right? Whatcha mean by that? Any weapon that does more than 156 DPS on armor can outDPS the Core Focused. There isn't a weapon in the game that fills this criteria. As a matter of fact, that number is the Core Focused with MinLogi to 5, so there is literally no possible way a reptool can outrep any weapon within its optimal.
I still laugh at said numbers..... I've done so before and been on the receiving end.... it is possible... extremely hard and requires u to think. But possiable
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
688
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Posted - 2015.02.23 03:54:00 -
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tritan abbattere wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Actually -- tbh, I kind of agree with the OP. I'm not sure about a heat cool down, but reptools feel a bit OP.
The rep tool always applies 100% of its healing. Guns NEVER apply 100% of their DPS. Saying that it only offsets 1/3rd damage is fallacious.
Does not require aiming. Or even facing.
And the phrase Kill the logi then the heavy will die is also fallacious. In some situations sure -- in many to most not only will the Heavy not die, the logi won't die before the heavy kills you.
I'm a heavy. I like reptools. But even I admit that they are far too efficient and loleasy to use. People wonder why heavies are spammed and blame EHP and HMGs and all sorts of stupid stuff like that when they completely forget about reptools, wheelchair heavies, etc...
It's mindbogglingly stupid. Biggest counter to heavy/logi combo is explosives. There a slow And easy to spam explosives at. Logi can't be near a heavy when getting hit by explosives making it harder to repair him. But if you think the rep tool is over powered then instead of nerfing add a hard counter? In eve they have ECM and energy-neutralizers to stop logi from working. I have suggested this in one of my posts called "Active ewar."
Well, no, with the range of reptools and the limited blast radius of explosives its not super effective. I've advocated using explosive weapons to 'encourage' camping logies and heavies out -- but in practice it is somewhat, but only barely, effective. It's not really hard for the heavy to stand out in the open, and maintain HMG fire while the logi hides far enough around a corner to not get caught by any splash. Of course this is all related to location.
But, temporary 'suppression' equipment (such as a disruption grenade) would be cool, but easily unbalanced if not carefully implemented. Still, with the fact you only need to land it once before making a push, it's a cool idea. |
killertojo42
KnightKiller's inc.
159
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:31:00 -
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Why the hell is the core repair tool being brought up, they are barely used because the extremely close range needed gets me and most other logis killed and most logis are minmataar OP behind a rep tool just like how a repping hive is OP in a caldari logi's hands or a Gal logi is OP to scouts and how amarr logis can turn some proto links into 2 second spawners, logis are the weakest in combat and are only good for almost only what equipment their suit gets a bonus for, if any of you can think of any bonuses minmataar logis can get to make them viable if their equipment is nerved I'm up for a discussion but just a nerf because logis seem OP even though they can only do one single thing and because of that they do it damn good
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
739
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Posted - 2015.02.23 09:05:00 -
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We tried this many times. I gave up. Let them have their crutch tool. Some people just aren't good so they follow others around like puppies. Core grenades, burst hmg's, and remotes rip them up, and I get mad points doing it.
While I agree, the masses just want to hold r1.
We train our logies to be shooters first, and heavies to be self sufficient.
If you just wanna rep the whole match apply to anywhere but death card. Go where they run bush, and kd pad.
We actually like to win a little here.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
739
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Posted - 2015.02.23 09:09:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Why the hell is the core repair tool being brought up, they are barely used because the extremely close range needed gets me and most other logis killed and most logis are minmataar OP behind a rep tool just like how a repping hive is OP in a caldari logi's hands or a Gal logi is OP to scouts and how amarr logis can turn some proto links into 2 second spawners, logis are the weakest in combat and are only good for almost only what equipment their suit gets a bonus for, if any of you can think of any bonuses minmataar logis can get to make them viable if their equipment is nerved I'm up for a discussion but just a nerf because logis seem OP even though they can only do one single thing and because of that they do it damn good
punctuation please!
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.02.23 09:16:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Can anyone name me a weapon that the Core Focused repair tool can outrep within its optimal? HMG. ARR. Rare but Viziam SCR can.... oh and FG, PLC You're kidding right? Whatcha mean by that? Any weapon that does more than 156 DPS on armor can outDPS the Core Focused. There isn't a weapon in the game that fills this criteria. As a matter of fact, that number is the Core Focused with MinLogi to 5, so there is literally no possible way a reptool can outrep any weapon within its optimal.
Just add 3, 4, or even 5 lol.... hold on while I laugh.... lmao, haha haha hahaha!
Ok, wait. A haha haha hahaha!
I'm sorry, but I've seen this ridiculous tactic used lol! Oh man when that remote goes off in the kill feed lol!
I can't stop laughing rotflmao! Every other point is red, and their still repping him lol!
Oooooooooohhhh lol! My side hurts ah!
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