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HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2015.02.20 06:56:00 - [1] - Quote Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens 1081	Posted - 2015.02.20 07:27:00 - [2] - Quote This is more proof that shotguns and REs need to be looked at. Changes to Damage mods!
Izlare Lenix Pub Stars 1265	Posted - 2015.02.20 07:41:00 - [3] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: This is more proof that shotguns and REs need to be looked at. ^ this. Nova knives can't do the type of kills SGs can. Novas have to be charged and SGs have almost 5x the range. Also, REs can be tossed too far, too easily. Take away SGs and REs and nobody would say scouts are OP. SGs and REs seriously need to be looked into, but we all know CCP is too busy changing dropsuit colors to actually look into game balance. The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens 1081	Posted - 2015.02.20 07:59:00 - [4] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: This is more proof that shotguns and REs need to be looked at. ^ this. Nova knives can't do the type of kills SGs can. Novas have to be charged and SGs have almost 5x the range. Also, REs can be tossed too far, too easily. Take away SGs and REs and nobody would say scouts are OP. SGs and REs seriously need to be looked into, but we all know CCP is too busy changing dropsuit colors to actually look into game balance. Proposed fixes? Tone down the shotgun's ROF a little. A high alpha weapon like that should not be able to shoot that fast. In exception from Bon's shotgun. For RE's? Rework the timer. It was supposed to be 5 seconds but for some reason they are still 2.5 seconds and nerf their throwing range. Changes to Damage mods!
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 321	Posted - 2015.02.20 10:39:00 - [5] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY Great video, thank you. But Scouts are not OP, Heavies are. GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 947	Posted - 2015.02.20 10:55:00 - [6] - Quote I don't see how exactly this shows scouts are OP. That map is great for scouts so they have an innate advantage on it, as well as heavies, as do most maps with tight corners and winding walkways. He also dies a lot, which is normal since he was in the line of fire many times - another bad thing for a scout. The throwing of remote explosives could become a problem, because the timer is definitely not 5 seconds, but at the moment I think it provides a good hard counter to heavies, which seem to everywhere nowadays, and I believe their HMG will be in line for a small nerf come next patch.
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4038	Posted - 2015.02.20 11:09:00 - [7] - Quote Try to pass in the exact same stream of bulletts and get rekt twice as fast, the rest is just RE. Some have luck, some have money, trading is not a crime. Minmatar omni-merc
Grease Spillett Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 752	Posted - 2015.02.20 11:31:00 - [8] - Quote I think this is proof he who lags not in pc is god mode. Next time you see me, bring more friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6276	Posted - 2015.02.20 12:00:00 - [9] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: This is more proof that shotguns and REs need to be looked at. ^ this. Nova knives can't do the type of kills SGs can. Novas have to be charged and SGs have almost 5x the range. Also, REs can be tossed too far, too easily. Take away SGs and REs and nobody would say scouts are OP. SGs and REs seriously need to be looked into, but we all know CCP is too busy changing dropsuit colors to actually look into game balance. People complain that everything is OP. It's not the SG and REs, though. You can put that on a Commando and people would just shrug it off and say something else rather than OP. Also, knives'absolute range is 2.5m. Shotgun's optimal is 5m. I wouldn't amount for its effective range since it has a high drop after that. It's the combination that's OP because a scout makes it easier to use them to their full potential by avoiding scans.
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 322	Posted - 2015.02.20 12:04:00 - [10] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Also, knives'absolute range is 2.5m. Shotgun's optimal is 5m. I wouldn't amount for its effective range since it has a high drop after that. It's the combination that's OP because a scout makes it easier to use them to their full potential by avoiding scans. and the minmatar bonus is an awesome incentive to go knifey. knives are underrated in Dust and I'd like to see more stabbing slashing weapons like swords and spears. and maybe the crybaby heavies could have big spiky balls to swing around ahem... GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥

Buwaro Draemon WarRavens 1082	Posted - 2015.02.20 12:53:00 - [11] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: Joel II X wrote: Also, knives'absolute range is 2.5m. Shotgun's optimal is 5m. I wouldn't amount for its effective range since it has a high drop after that. It's the combination that's OP because a scout makes it easier to use them to their full potential by avoiding scans. and the minmatar bonus is an awesome incentive to go knifey. knives are underrated in Dust and I'd like to see more stabbing slashing weapons like swords and spears. and maybe the crybaby heavies could have big spiky balls to swing around ahem... Why the hell would futuristic warfare have battles of swords and spears when there are a shitton of bullets and explosions going all around them? Don't get me wrong, Nova Knifes are extremely fun to play and challenging, but their play style holds no place in Dust. Especially if maps and battles get bigger. From my stand point, The only difference I see in running a speed tanked MinScout with knifes and a CoD player with Marathon and Lightweight as perks with the ballistic knife (Black Ops 2) is that in one you have to pay in game currency every time you die. Other than that, it is the same playstyle. Rum around hoping nobody sees you and slash enemies from behind. Get spotted? Run out of there and out of enemy sights as fast as you can. Why am I saying this? Because I want Dust to evolve into the massive battle, tactical shooter it was said to be rather than free-to-play twitch shooter. Which is what we basically have now. Changes to Damage mods!
Izlare Lenix Pub Stars 1266	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:04:00 - [12] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: This is more proof that shotguns and REs need to be looked at. ^ this. Nova knives can't do the type of kills SGs can. Novas have to be charged and SGs have almost 5x the range. Also, REs can be tossed too far, too easily. Take away SGs and REs and nobody would say scouts are OP. SGs and REs seriously need to be looked into, but we all know CCP is too busy changing dropsuit colors to actually look into game balance. People complain that everything is OP. It's not the SG and REs, though. You can put that on a Commando and people would just shrug it off and say something else rather than OP. Also, knives'absolute range is 2.5m. Shotgun's optimal is 5m. I wouldn't amount for its effective range since it has a high drop after that. It's the combination that's OP because a scout makes it easier to use them to their full potential by avoiding scans. My pro scout has been 1 shoot by SG at 11m many, many times. Knives can not do that. You also can't dance, jump or strafe with knives like you can with a SG since charging knives slows your movement. My point is knives are probably the most powerful weapon in Dust since you can one swipe most suits. However they are also the most balanced because of the limited range, charge up time and increased vulnerability when charging and limited to walking speed. SGs and REs have none of these draw backs on any suit and their limited range is nullified by scout speed. Knives are the only high alpha weapon with multiple negatives that give them balance. SGs and REs only have limited range as a balancing factor (yet still much farther than knives) which is why when you use SGs and REs in a scout, they are not balanced at all. SG ROF needs to be reduced and REs should have more of an animation and less throwing range. The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
JUPA SACH R34L T4LK 368	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:14:00 - [13] - Quote man, this community cries for everything Karma
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1592	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:17:00 - [14] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: This is more proof that shotguns and REs need to be looked at. This. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6780	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:20:00 - [15] - Quote Try that shotgun on a MN Assault. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5981	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:21:00 - [16] - Quote Scouts are fine. Nova Knives, Shotguns, and Remote Explosives are all counters to HMG Sentinels. The problem is that Assault suits do not have an advantage against Scouts. For proper Rock/Paper/Scissors balance the Assault suit should have as much of an advantage over the Scout as the HMG Sentinel has over the Assault suit. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6780	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:22:00 - [17] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: 1. SGs and REs have none of these draw backs on any suit and their limited range is nullified by scout speed. 2. Knives are the only high alpha weapon with multiple negatives that give them balance. SGs and REs only have limited range as a balancing factor (yet still much farther than knives) which is why when you use SGs and REs in a scout, they are not balanced at all. 3. SG ROF needs to be reduced and REs should have more of an animation and less throwing range. 1. Assault Speed is now more or less equal to Scout Speed. 2. Whether you believe it or not, Shotguns have a very real Optimal Range of 5 meters. 3. So a weapon with a 5m range should have lower DPS than a Fine Rifle? Seems legit. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6780	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:26:00 - [18] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Scouts are fine. Nova Knives, Shotguns, and Remote Explosives are all counters to HMG Sentinels. The problem is that Assault suits do not have an advantage against Scouts. For proper Rock/Paper/Scissors balance the Assault suit should have as much of an advantage over the Scout as the HMG Sentinel has over the Assault suit. o/ Fox You're almost always right, but less so in this case. Just skilled into three Assaults after having run Scout exclusively since Beta. I am at no disadvantage against Scouts in AM, MN or GA Assault; in fact, fitting the latter two as Scouts (damps, biotics, precision) make for better Scouts than any Scout. Further, I've far better odds against Heavies in my Heavy Scouts than I ever had in a Scout suit. > Twice the HP, similar speed, comparable profile and scans. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1495	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:31:00 - [19] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Minja playstyle doesn't belong in a shooter Why am I saying this? Because I want Dust to evolve into the massive battle, tactical shooter it was said to be rather than free-to-play twitch shooter. Which is what we basically have now. And infiltration and assassination have no place in either of these things why?
Doyle Reese Ready to Play 536	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:33:00 - [20] - Quote honestly, REs are dumb yes, but it's because the animation doesn't show where the RE will end up, it just sort of teleports there. THAT's what makes RE stupid

IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1495	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:35:00 - [21] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Scouts are fine. Nova Knives, Shotguns, and Remote Explosives are all counters to HMG Sentinels. The problem is that Assault suits do not have an advantage against Scouts. For proper Rock/Paper/Scissors balance the Assault suit should have as much of an advantage over the Scout as the HMG Sentinel has over the Assault suit. o/ Fox You're almost always right, but less so in this case. Just skilled into three Assaults after having run Scout exclusively since Beta. I am at no disadvantage against Scouts in AM, MN or GA Assault. In fact, fitting the latter two as Scouts (damps, biotics, precision, scanner) make for better Scouts than any Scout. I need only fit one precision amp and Falloff picks up any would-be assassins; I don't always catch them, but I'm certainly not at a disadvantage against them (I find the opposite true). Further, I've far better odds against Heavies in my "Heavy Scouts" than I ever had in a Scout suit. Twice the HP, similar speed/stamina, comparable profile/scans. The only things missing are the lolCloak and REs. Yeah I can run around in an ADV Gal Assault at 9.18m/s, 27 / 24 precision / profile and ~600 HP. With more CPU / PG flexibility for the rest.
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 462	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:35:00 - [22] - Quote I've seen minmitar assault with SG and RE's do just as good as that video with the scout
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1796	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:38:00 - [23] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: al nize mk2 wrote: Joel II X wrote: Also, knives'absolute range is 2.5m. Shotgun's optimal is 5m. I wouldn't amount for its effective range since it has a high drop after that. It's the combination that's OP because a scout makes it easier to use them to their full potential by avoiding scans. and the minmatar bonus is an awesome incentive to go knifey. knives are underrated in Dust and I'd like to see more stabbing slashing weapons like swords and spears. and maybe the crybaby heavies could have big spiky balls to swing around ahem... Why the hell would futuristic warfare have battles of swords and spears when there are a shitton of bullets and explosions going all around them? I don't know, why do people in the 21st century use knives? Guns were invented over 1000 years ago, why do we still use these stupid, obsolete bladed weapons? It's science fiction, man. Why don't they just use invisible nanorobots to kill soldiers? Because that would make for boring gameplay. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1790	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:41:00 - [24] - Quote when will we stop being surprised at this.... OMG!! that -300hp Light Frame used dirty tactics to kill me!!! they should Git Gud and go toe-toe with suits w/3x their hp The Scout imo, is meant to be and needed as an Assassin.. fast, deadly but weak in a fire-fight If CCP want anything less form it, just do us a favour and remove the suit from gameplay.. No one likes to be insta-glibbed... and always point the finger at Scouts.. Yet a Scout can be insta-glibbed by crossfire of most Dust weapons, nevermind being shot directly so it's really a case of kill or be killed on both sides of a fight with a scout .. Shotguns?? nasty enough but have to get in suicide range.. I would not argue some changes here, but the effect will be the same Blap = dead, Blap Blap = dead, and mercs will still complain Assaults and Commandos are already the counter, I sh!t my pants when facing either The issue here is, I run actual 'Scout' fits, not 600hp+ sh!t bricks tanked fits So to balance Scouts, make Ewar a viable choice and limit dual tanking = dead scouts for everyone
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1790	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:44:00 - [25] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: al nize mk2 wrote: Joel II X wrote: Also, knives'absolute range is 2.5m. Shotgun's optimal is 5m. I wouldn't amount for its effective range since it has a high drop after that. It's the combination that's OP because a scout makes it easier to use them to their full potential by avoiding scans. and the minmatar bonus is an awesome incentive to go knifey. knives are underrated in Dust and I'd like to see more stabbing slashing weapons like swords and spears. and maybe the crybaby heavies could have big spiky balls to swing around ahem... Why the hell would futuristic warfare have battles of swords and spears when there are a shitton of bullets and explosions going all around them? I don't know, why do people in the 21st century use knives? Guns were invented over 1000 years ago, why do we still use these stupid, obsolete bladed weapons? It's science fiction, man. Why don't they just use invisible nanorobots to kill soldiers? Because that would make for boring gameplay. I use my super heated Nova Knives, to cut through your suit can carve a hole in your chest It may be a knife, which would be useless in Dust.. But why would I use Knives packing more heat than a Volcano vs advanced suit technology?? yeah, thats why
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3235	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:14:00 - [26] - Quote Taking nothing away from my friends in Forsaken Empire, but I'm not sure we should be judging the efficacy of scouts when going up against them. Jake's a beast, and has been for a long time, but I'd like to see how he does against one of the better teams....as I doubt he'd put up 38 kills.
JAKE REDBLOOD T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 32	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:23:00 - [27] - Quote Expanding on what Leadfoot said, it was against forsaken empire... they probably have the worst heavies in pc..like ever! Besides in a scout it is all about how you think, situational awareness is what's op. If I can chuck a re on five people whilst they're looking the other way and not paying no attention to what's going on behind them, quite honestly they deserve to die. If a good heavy sees me from 15m* I'm dead..other wise they're in my optimal, i hold no responcibility for what happens next! :) It's funny because most people that complain about scouts have never actually used one themselves, you think you can take me? Hit me up! I'll cue against ya, reck yo ass and put it on YouTube! o7 My YouTube Channel
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3235	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:28:00 - [28] - Quote I also don't think I saw a scanner the entire time. That's just not good strategy, IMO, particularly when going up against 3rdRock....as it would both locate their heavies and assault suits, and also force Jake and the other scouts to dampen up and become even more squishy.
JAKE REDBLOOD T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 32	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:50:00 - [29] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: I also don't think I saw a scanner the entire time. That's just not good strategy, IMO, particularly when going up against 3rdRock....as it would both locate their heavies and assault suits, and also force Jake and the other scouts to dampen up and become even more squishy. And I'll take your challenge, Jake, but I'm not dumb enough to try to go up against you in a scout suit with a shotgun. :) lol yeah, i always have one damp and in pc I'm normally forced to go at least two or three, but not fighting them guys ;) My YouTube Channel
altair Dovahkiin Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:17:00 - [30] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY sorry but all I see is a scout doing his job and people that do not know how to use heavies Bravery doesn't mean you aren't scared. It means you go anyway

HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 32	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:19:00 - [31] - Quote altair Dovahkiin wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY sorry but all I see is a scout doing his job and people that do not know how to use heavies Dude the scouts "job " is to hack objectives. As well as provide reconisions, not to slay 1300 armor heavys with three shots. *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6789	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:32:00 - [32] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Dude the scouts "job " is to hack objectives. As well as provide reconisions, not to slay 1300 armor heavys with three shots. I beg to differ. Please explain: * Nova Knives * bad Scout passive scans * passive scans w/out WP * GA Logi bonus * the math behind 3-shotting 1,300 armor Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5987	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:38:00 - [33] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Scouts are fine. Nova Knives, Shotguns, and Remote Explosives are all counters to HMG Sentinels. The problem is that Assault suits do not have an advantage against Scouts. For proper Rock/Paper/Scissors balance the Assault suit should have as much of an advantage over the Scout as the HMG Sentinel has over the Assault suit. o/ Fox You're almost always right, but less so in this case. Just skilled into three Assaults after having run Scout exclusively since Beta. I am at no disadvantage against Scouts in AM, MN or GA Assault. I need only fit one precision amp and Falloff picks up any would-be assassins; I don't always catch them, but I'm certainly not at a disadvantage against them (I find the opposite true). In fact, fitting the latter two like Scouts (ewar, biotics, scanner) make for better Scouts than any Scout. I've far better odds against Heavies in my "Super Scout Suits" than I ever had in a Scout suit. Examples: Minmatar Assault Gallente Assault Well over 200% the HP, comparable speed/stamina, equivalent scans. The only things missing are the lolCloak and REs. Swap the brick for damps, and you've got 24dB profile and still twice the HP of similarly fit Scout. If you haven't yet done so, Fox, I highly recommend skilling into MN Assault and seeing this firsthand. There is no better Scout than the MN Assault Scout. Perhaps Assault Suits have been buffed enough to do the job already, and it is simply now a matter of training the users to operate them properly. It would not be the first time that imbalance was a matter of education rather than stats. When they fixed hit detection and added Aim Assist back in it took the larger DUST community over nine months to learn to strafe again. So, maybe all we need is more experienced Scouts running Assault suits to show the dedicated Assault players how it is done. As to the Min Assault I am fully skilled into that suit, and fully aware of its abilities, but I found that the better I got at playing Min Assault the worse I was getting at HMG Sentinel, so a want back to being a dedicated Sentinel so I would not lose my edge. (It was a dual edge to begin with.) With my slow reaction time the Sentinel is a better fit for me than the faster suits. I am more of a Tortoise than a Hare. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Funky Pshyco Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 31	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:44:00 - [34] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: altair Dovahkiin wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY sorry but all I see is a scout doing his job and people that do not know how to use heavies Dude the scouts "job " is to hack objectives. As well as provide reconisions, not to slay 1300 armor heavys with three shots. That's wrong. You can use boundless remote explosives if you want to kill heavys dude..
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6790	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:52:00 - [35] - Quote @ Fox My gut feeling is that we went a 'bit too far with Scout nerfs and a 'bit too far with Assault buffs. Rattati has hinted at upcoming changes to backpedal speed; this could bring Assault v Scout closer to balance. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
altair Dovahkiin Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:53:00 - [36] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: altair Dovahkiin wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY sorry but all I see is a scout doing his job and people that do not know how to use heavies Dude the scouts "job " is to hack objectives. As well as provide reconisions, not to slay 1300 armor heavys with three shots. also to get rid of uplinks and it is every players job to stop the enemies advance any way you can. at 3:46 he attack to two heavies TWO HEAVIES!! that do not now how to use them . is that his fault NO and heavies are easy mode. Bravery doesn't mean you aren't scared. It means you go anyway
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 2302	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:54:00 - [37] - Quote Minassaults running shotguns are worse. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3242	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:04:00 - [38] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Minassaults running shotguns are worse. Truth. They tank enough HP that it makes killing them before they close the gap and kill you even harder than a scout. With a scout, you can often backpeddle and kill them, with a Min Assault that becomes much harder.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6793	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:15:00 - [39] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Minassaults running shotguns are worse. MN Assault absolutely makes for a better shotgunner, but he has higher odds of being scanned down before getting into range. He needs at least 2 KinCats to shotgun, and he needs 3 damps to beat competitive scans. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 205	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:19:00 - [40] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: This is more proof that shotguns and REs need to be looked at. ^ this. Nova knives can't do the type of kills SGs can. Novas have to be charged and SGs have almost 5x the range. Also, REs can be tossed too far, too easily. Take away SGs and REs and nobody would say scouts are OP. SGs and REs seriously need to be looked into, but we all know CCP is too busy changing dropsuit colors to actually look into game balance. People complain that everything is OP. It's not the SG and REs, though. You can put that on a Commando and people would just shrug it off and say something else rather than OP. Also, knives'absolute range is 2.5m. Shotgun's optimal is 5m. I wouldn't amount for its effective range since it has a high drop after that. It's the combination that's OP because a scout makes it easier to use them to their full potential by avoiding scans. Lol 5m, ive been killed at 20m by a sg and u had a good amount of hp.

Boll Spirit Iberica Racing Team 47	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:20:00 - [41] - Quote I don-¦t know why people is always complaining about scouts , what we see in the vid is an excellente guy running a scout who is doing well his work . He-¦s playing Planetary Conquer in a CQC map , special dedicated to heavies and scouts, so how is he supposed to play ? specially in a map where a team use full squads of heavies , the strategy force you to use the shootgun // nova and boundless remotes . If you are not happy about this , do not keep complaining about my brothers scouts and use a logi gal with scanners ( this will force a gallente scout to use at least 3 complex dampeners, and you-¦ll be able to detect the others racial scouts ). I think most of you will erase the scout role from the game , but thinking deeply , this game won-¦t be funny anymore ...
WARRIOR GAC Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION 361	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:31:00 - [42] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY Nope, he is a good shotgunner. *Grupo de Asalto Chacal*
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7899	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:36:00 - [43] - Quote Doyle Reese wrote: honestly, REs are dumb yes, but it's because the animation doesn't show where the RE will end up, it just sort of teleports there. THAT's what makes RE stupid This and the timer seemingly not being set to 5 seconds like it was supposed to are the only legit complaints about REs I can see. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6797	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:46:00 - [44] - Quote maluble wrote: Lol 5m, ive been killed at 20m by a sg and u had a good amount of hp. Not since Chrome. Grab a shotgun and point it at stationary target. Walk backwards and watch your efficiency readout. Observe what happens at 5m, and keep an eye on that readout out to 20m. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 443	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:52:00 - [45] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY There were a ton more HMG kills in the killfeed than shotgun kills, just because you watched a video of one of our best slayers running a shotgun/RE fit doesnt mean its OP. Shotgun has some serious drawbacks to it, I dont think it in itself is overpowered. REs are more debateable and in their current state I think they are pretty overpowered, but could be balanced alot better if they would reduce the distance they can be thrown or reduced the damage so it took more of them to kill someone.
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 33	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:59:00 - [46] - Quote doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot.So no such thing as best shotgunner, but noce try. *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1596	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:02:00 - [47] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot. Sorry but this is really really stupid. fix it in "doesn't take skill to use RE"...but really, that was so stupid! One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Nos Nothi 2564	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:10:00 - [48] - Quote A guy that knows his role is OP. You guys are hilariously stupid, and have been so about this 'issue' foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I dont give a damn anymore. Im glad i dont hang out here. Recon is an Art Min Scout best Chef in New Eden, Gal Scout best Tour-Guide PSN Sil4ntChaozz/PROfits Silent Chaozz
altair Dovahkiin Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:16:00 - [49] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot.So no such thing as best shotgunner, but noce try. that just proves you have never done it. shotgun are harder then HMG I do both HMG is easy mode Bravery doesn't mean you aren't scared. It means you go anyway
VAHZZ 511	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:32:00 - [50] - Quote I need to look into this... ~ Proud Sniper Scout

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11029	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:50:00 - [51] - Quote First off, I'm glad I'm finally able to log into the forums to say this. 1. The video you posted is NOT proof that scouts are OP. The match was a PC battle which demands competitive players and that all available tools be used however the players sees fit in order to win. PC is not like a public match where you just fight for laughs and giggles. You lose very expensive gear in these matches and you are pitted against players who are also very much likely running all proto or at least most of the time. I know it's a PC battle just by looking at the clone count. 2. The player died a lot in a scout suit. 3. He is a skilled scout as he was taking full advantage of the environment which provides a lot of cover for him but it also means he had to deal with heavies with HMGs which appeared to be everywhere in that Orbital Artillery Outpost. Therefore he had to really be on his toes and stay focused in order to survive. 4. In regarding to dealing so much alpha damage from a scout, that was because the guy was often using remote explosives in conjunction with a shotgun and other players shooting at his targets. Also, the vast majority of the kills I have seen on that video clearly took far more than just a single shot per heavy. The video you provided is proof of that. The players that got killed in one shot were mostly assaults and/or scouts. 5. The Minmatar scout suit has a built-in knife bonus that enables a proto-knife user to OHK most heavies but that alone requires a massive amount of skill to use. So try telling me again why a scout should only be doing non-combat stuff. 6. I saw the guy also die to heavies. PS: I have tried both hmgs and shot guns recently. The hmg seems easier to use. I couldn't hit the broad side of a heavy with a shotgun. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
JAKE REDBLOOD T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:11:00 - [52] - Quote You guys are going to love the reup ;) My YouTube Channel
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 33	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:22:00 - [53] - Quote Thanks for the Video for proof, mabye CCP will open their eyes now. *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
JAKE REDBLOOD T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:28:00 - [54] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Thanks for the Video for proof, mabye CCP will open their eyes now. Yeah they might need too ban me, I'm quite op My YouTube Channel
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1505	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:29:00 - [55] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot.So no such thing as best shotgunner, but noce try. You just totally lost whatever credibility you had left with this statement. Now thinking 0 / 10
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 33	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:32:00 - [56] - Quote JAKE REDBLOOD wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Thanks for the Video for proof, mabye CCP will open their eyes now. Yeah they might need too ban me, I'm quite op NO.. funny though. You did a "good" job. But a scout should not kill 1300 armor heavys in two to three shots. *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
JAKE REDBLOOD T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:33:00 - [57] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot.So no such thing as best shotgunner, but noce try. LOL! What does a heavy do? My YouTube Channel
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 33	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:36:00 - [58] - Quote JAKE REDBLOOD wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot.So no such thing as best shotgunner, but noce try. LOL! What does a heavy do? HAHAHAH.. their job is to KILL, mainly front entrances to make way for scouts to hack ETC. *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Nos Nothi 2564	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:36:00 - [59] - Quote JAKE REDBLOOD wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot.So no such thing as best shotgunner, but noce try. LOL! What does a heavy do? I would normally say dont argue with a not smart person but since he used your video as 'proof' (lol)...... Recon is an Art Min Scout best Chef in New Eden, Gal Scout best Tour-Guide Scout haven't been OP since 1.8
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 459	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:43:00 - [60] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: I think this is proof he who lags not in pc is god mode. Yep, those guys were moving normal speed and not even seeing and tracking him. Swap this around and he could be on a heavy and do the same thing. Lag though, is why scouts are OP due to taking advantage of the delay in loading to get high alpha. Not to mention the game changing mechanics toward a simple run around in circles and shoot, shoot, shoot arena rumble. See how he backed up casually as he's getting shot? Yeah, on my system It wouldn't register for over a second later and I'd be dead. I have to move much quicker than that which is impossible due to mechanics. There's no module to back up any faster. Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.

Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 447	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:47:00 - [61] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: JAKE REDBLOOD wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot.So no such thing as best shotgunner, but noce try. LOL! What does a heavy do? HAHAHAH.. their job is to KILL, mainly front entrances to make way for scouts to hack ETC. The answer is "point and shoot". Your absurd oversimplification of how to use shotguns can be used on every weapon in this game.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1505	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:57:00 - [62] - Quote Damn Jake - just watching the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY#t=8m25 Would love to see that jump-strafing from the heavy's p.o.v. Awesome tactics. gg
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7910	Posted - 2015.02.20 21:02:00 - [63] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: JAKE REDBLOOD wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot.So no such thing as best shotgunner, but noce try. LOL! What does a heavy do? HAHAHAH.. their job is to KILL, mainly front entrances to make way for scouts to hack ETC. The answer is "point and shoot". Your absurd oversimplification of how to use shotguns can be used on every weapon in this game. Not to mention his oversimplification of game roles. He can say scouts are only for hacking all he wants, but there are 4 scouts, and only one with a hacking bonus. Not to mention CCP has repeatedly stated scouts are also assassins. Unfortunately CCP doesn't listen to nonsense and anecdotal info. There is a reason they use data from a much larger sample size to make decisions. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 456	Posted - 2015.02.20 21:20:00 - [64] - Quote they're not
Tyjus Vacca Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 319	Posted - 2015.02.20 21:32:00 - [65] - Quote JAKE REDBLOOD wrote: Expanding on what Leadfoot said, it was against forsaken empire... they probably have the worst heavies in pc..like ever! Besides in a scout it is all about how you think, situational awareness is what's op. If I can chuck a re on five people whilst they're looking the other way and not paying no attention to what's going on behind them, quite honestly they deserve to die. If a good heavy sees me from 15m* I'm dead..other wise they're in my optimal, i hold no responcibility for what happens next! :) It's funny because most people that complain about scouts have never actually used one themselves, you think you can take me? Hit me up! I'll cue against ya, reck yo ass and put it on YouTube! o7 Challenge Accepted sniper changes !!? O_o
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 1029	Posted - 2015.02.20 21:41:00 - [66] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: JAKE REDBLOOD wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: doesn't take skil to use shotguns, just point and shoot.So no such thing as best shotgunner, but noce try. LOL! What does a heavy do? HAHAHAH.. their job is to KILL, mainly front entrances to make way for scouts to hack ETC. i though it was scouts which clear the way for the rest of the team to set up and logi's hack while heavies defend. if you guys tried a different tactic rather than heavy logi all the time, you probs wouldnt of lost 450 clones in 2 battles SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:15:00 - [67] - Quote Wow you guys really got your roles messed up. Logi- provide support for entire team Heavy- Clear and make way for smaller suits to hack etc. ( CROWD CONTROL ) Light Suit- Hack objectives, provide recon, take out light loners. Tank- Eliminate Turrets, Tanks, and other major threats. AV- Take out vehicles *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6806	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:18:00 - [68] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Light Suit- Hack objectives, provide recon, take out light loners. Is it Scouts or the GA Logi who gets a bonus to Active Scans? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7916	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:26:00 - [69] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Wow you guys really got your roles messed up. Logi- provide support for entire team Heavy- Clear and make way for smaller suits to hack etc. ( CROWD CONTROL ) Light Suit- Hack objectives, provide recon, take out light loners. Tank- Eliminate Turrets, Tanks, and other major threats. AV- Take out vehicles Look, you don't get to be THE ONE that defines roles. If you don't like the roles as CCP defines them, go play somewhere else. Also, you completely left out Commandos and Assaults, which would unfortunately infringe on your over large idea of a Heavy's role. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2015.02.20 23:01:00 - [70] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Wow you guys really got your roles messed up. Logi- provide support for entire team Heavy- Clear and make way for smaller suits to hack etc. ( CROWD CONTROL ) Light Suit- Hack objectives, provide recon, take out light loners. Tank- Eliminate Turrets, Tanks, and other major threats. AV- Take out vehicles Look, you don't get to be THE ONE that defines roles. If you don't like the roles as CCP defines them, go play somewhere else. Also, you completely left out Commandos and Assaults, which would unfortunately infringe on your over large idea of a Heavy's role. The cool thing about Dust is that you have many options. BUT CCP themselves intended the roles to be a certain way. The following i have listed previously is what CCP had planned. NOT MY OWN OPINION *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*

PARKOUR PRACTIONER Nos Nothi 2576	Posted - 2015.02.21 00:40:00 - [71] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Wow you guys really got your roles messed up. Logi- provide support for entire team Heavy- Clear and make way for smaller suits to hack etc. ( CROWD CONTROL ) Light Suit- Hack objectives, provide recon, take out light loners. Tank- Eliminate Turrets, Tanks, and other major threats. AV- Take out vehicles Look, you don't get to be THE ONE that defines roles. If you don't like the roles as CCP defines them, go play somewhere else. Also, you completely left out Commandos and Assaults, which would unfortunately infringe on your over large idea of a Heavy's role. The cool thing about Dust is that you have many options. BUT CCP themselves intended the roles to be a certain way. The following i have listed previously is what CCP had planned. NOT MY OWN OPINION But you certainly wouldnt mind if it worked the way it was intended. But, the freedom of customization and choice is what makes it so fun. What if it worked EXCATLY how it was intended. Would the game be interesting if everything went according to plan? It might be more balanced, but would it be interesting? Recon is an Art Min Scout best Chef in New Eden, Gal Scout best Tour-Guide Scout haven't been OP since 1.8
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9858	Posted - 2015.02.21 00:55:00 - [72] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY Those are some **** poor heavies. They couldn't even win a 2v1 Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2015.02.21 01:09:00 - [73] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Wow you guys really got your roles messed up. Logi- provide support for entire team Heavy- Clear and make way for smaller suits to hack etc. ( CROWD CONTROL ) Light Suit- Hack objectives, provide recon, take out light loners. Tank- Eliminate Turrets, Tanks, and other major threats. AV- Take out vehicles Look, you don't get to be THE ONE that defines roles. If you don't like the roles as CCP defines them, go play somewhere else. Also, you completely left out Commandos and Assaults, which would unfortunately infringe on your over large idea of a Heavy's role. The cool thing about Dust is that you have many options. BUT CCP themselves intended the roles to be a certain way. The following i have listed previously is what CCP had planned. NOT MY OWN OPINION But you certainly wouldnt mind if it worked the way it was intended. But, the freedom of customization and choice is what makes it so fun. What if it worked EXCATLY how it was intended. Would the game be interesting if everything went according to plan? It might be more balanced, but would it be interesting? There`s a difference between fun and being killed in .5 seconds every 20 secconds. Thats not what CCP wants........ or do they *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
JAKE REDBLOOD T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2015.02.21 13:22:00 - [74] - Quote In case anyone wants to watch the reup ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkYHQVs0Ms&feature=youtu.be My YouTube Channel
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 38	Posted - 2015.02.21 21:53:00 - [75] - Quote Thanks for all the Comments and VIEW`S! *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Zindorak Nyain Chan 1714	Posted - 2015.02.21 22:18:00 - [76] - Quote They are fine. Shotgun does what it's supposed to do; do lots of damage at a short distance. RE's are useful for anti spider tanking. Anyway nice gameplay and what's your fit Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 38	Posted - 2015.02.22 05:35:00 - [77] - Quote ya "ANTI TANKING" they do everything but anti tanking *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 1175	Posted - 2015.02.22 05:36:00 - [78] - Quote REs should be placed not tossed. Nemo me impune lacessit CCP - Announcing games at the same time as killing the ones you love CCP - No Credibility
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 41	Posted - 2015.02.22 18:25:00 - [79] - Quote Ya I agree *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
HOLY PERFECTION UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E 55	Posted - 2015.03.05 20:43:00 - [80] - Quote PLAYER TRADING GOT PUSHED BACK *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*

xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 696	Posted - 2015.03.05 23:37:00 - [81] - Quote well, now you sound like KingThunderBolt Scouts are not OP....eWar doesn't even work for fuck sake! retired lurking replying
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 696	Posted - 2015.03.05 23:38:00 - [82] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Damn Jake - just watching the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY#t=8m25 Would love to see that jump-strafing from the heavy's p.o.v. Awesome tactics. gg was it his first time knifing? retired lurking replying
HOLY PERFECTION molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 91	Posted - 2015.03.28 17:12:00 - [83] - Quote Scouts i dont like you XD *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
HOLY PERFECTION molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 91	Posted - 2015.03.28 17:48:00 - [84] - Quote xavier zor wrote: well, now you sound like KingThunderBolt Scouts are not OP....eWar doesn't even work for fuck sake! im white *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11283	Posted - 2015.03.28 18:39:00 - [85] - Quote Why the frakk are we necroing this thread again? Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
HOLY PERFECTION molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 90	Posted - 2015.03.28 18:48:00 - [86] - Quote Why NOT *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
mollerz 6371	Posted - 2015.03.28 19:05:00 - [87] - Quote lots of lame here.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8862	Posted - 2015.03.28 20:38:00 - [88] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Scouts i dont like you XD That is a valid opinion. Stating that Scouts are OP because of that opinion is just foolish. All you do is label yourself as a troll and someone who cannot be relied upon to give honest feedback, and essentially take yourself out of the picture if you ever want to really present an idea. Better hope there is nothing you actually care about in game to which you ever want/need changes. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
HOLY PERFECTION molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 90	Posted - 2015.03.28 21:06:00 - [89] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Scouts i dont like you XD That is a valid opinion. Stating that Scouts are OP because of that opinion is just foolish. All you do is label yourself as a troll and someone who cannot be relied upon to give honest feedback, and essentially take yourself out of the picture if you ever want to really present an idea. Better hope there is nothing you actually care about in game to which you ever want/need changes. UMM.. have you read the thread at the top biggining of the thread. It show why scouts are OP. Also i have it explained, search scouts are OP, or shotties. *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8865	Posted - 2015.03.28 21:10:00 - [90] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: One Eyed King wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Scouts i dont like you XD That is a valid opinion. Stating that Scouts are OP because of that opinion is just foolish. All you do is label yourself as a troll and someone who cannot be relied upon to give honest feedback, and essentially take yourself out of the picture if you ever want to really present an idea. Better hope there is nothing you actually care about in game to which you ever want/need changes. UMM.. have you read the thread at the top biggining of the thread. It show why scouts are OP. Also i have it explained, search scouts are OP, or shotties. But they aren't. Even people who played scouts between 1.0 and 1.7 are switching to Assaults. If scouts were that OP, they still would be the most prevalent suit worn, but they aren't, not by a long shot. Just because they kill you doesn't mean they are OP. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

HOLY PERFECTION molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 90	Posted - 2015.03.28 21:24:00 - [91] - Quote No ask anyone. 8/10 people agree that they are OP *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8867	Posted - 2015.03.28 21:33:00 - [92] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: No ask anyone. 8/10 people agree that they are OP Rattati's opinion and data are the only concern I have. I doubt 8/10 do, because if they did, they would be running them and not Assaults. Assaults are the new meta now, but go ahead and believe what you want. I don't really care if you make a fool of yourself. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
HOLY PERFECTION molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 90	Posted - 2015.03.28 22:50:00 - [93] - Quote ok thanks i will *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 485	Posted - 2015.03.29 05:08:00 - [94] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Go to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhlRDqcRsY scout is not op, jake is just a SOB immune to lag
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4454	Posted - 2015.03.29 05:22:00 - [95] - Quote Noticed how he died more when not tanking his scout. Actual scout fits=UP. Tanked scout fits=sentinels with passive scans you can shared with a squad. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 59	Posted - 2015.03.29 05:45:00 - [96] - Quote It seems ccp purposely giving scouts second equipment slots for R.Es cuz the bpos come equipped with cloak n remotes which I think is perfectly acceptable I dont run scouts n lately havent had issue putting them down. What I do have a issue with is shotguns clip size 8 is way to much an officer variant sure but with that many bullets n its reload speed its ridiculous u can wipe out 3 or 4 people with one clip. Id suggest maybe down to 5 or 6 breach gets 3 shots. Plus their regen on any scouts is way to high considering their assault conterparts are the ones who should be getting them and before anyone says ohh their low hp is the reason no cuz they have enough slots and cpu/pg to surpass that. Secondly id say bring the max equipment down to 8 bandwith so if the wanna throw uplinks they can have 2 out but if they throw remote one pops which to me is fair scouts shouldnt be better logis than logis


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