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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:20:00 -
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Try that shotgun on a MN Assault.
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:22:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:
1. SGs and REs have none of these draw backs on any suit and their limited range is nullified by scout speed.
2. Knives are the only high alpha weapon with multiple negatives that give them balance. SGs and REs only have limited range as a balancing factor (yet still much farther than knives) which is why when you use SGs and REs in a scout, they are not balanced at all.
3. SG ROF needs to be reduced and REs should have more of an animation and less throwing range.
1. Assault Speed is now more or less equal to Scout Speed.
2. Whether you believe it or not, Shotguns have a very real Optimal Range of 5 meters.
3. So a weapon with a 5m range should have lower DPS than a Fine Rifle? Seems legit.
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:26:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Scouts are fine. Nova Knives, Shotguns, and Remote Explosives are all counters to HMG Sentinels.
The problem is that Assault suits do not have an advantage against Scouts. For proper Rock/Paper/Scissors balance the Assault suit should have as much of an advantage over the Scout as the HMG Sentinel has over the Assault suit.
o/ Fox
You're almost always right, but less so in this case. Just skilled into three Assaults after having run Scout exclusively since Beta. I am at no disadvantage against Scouts in AM, MN or GA Assault; in fact, fitting the latter two as Scouts (damps, biotics, precision) make for better Scouts than any Scout.
Further, I've far better odds against Heavies in my Heavy Scouts than I ever had in a Scout suit.
> Twice the HP, similar speed, comparable profile and scans.
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:32:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
Dude the scouts "job " is to hack objectives. As well as provide reconisions, not to slay 1300 armor heavys with three shots.
I beg to differ. Please explain:
* Nova Knives
* bad Scout passive scans
* passive scans w/out WP
* GA Logi bonus
* the math behind 3-shotting 1,300 armor
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:52:00 -
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@ Fox
My gut feeling is that we went a 'bit too far with Scout nerfs and a 'bit too far with Assault buffs. Rattati has hinted at upcoming changes to backpedal speed; this could bring Assault v Scout closer to balance.
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Posted - 2015.02.20 17:15:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Minassaults running shotguns are worse.
MN Assault absolutely makes for a better shotgunner, but he has higher odds of being scanned down before getting into range. He needs at least 2 KinCats to shotgun, and he needs 3 damps to beat competitive scans.
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Posted - 2015.02.20 17:46:00 -
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maluble wrote:
Lol 5m, ive been killed at 20m by a sg and u had a good amount of hp.
Not since Chrome. Grab a shotgun and point it at stationary target. Walk backwards and watch your efficiency readout. Observe what happens at 5m, and keep an eye on that readout out to 20m.
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:18:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
Light Suit- Hack objectives, provide recon, take out light loners.
Is it Scouts or the GA Logi who gets a bonus to Active Scans?
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