DUST Search - Cardiac Regulator or Kinetic Catalyzer?

Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:

All Gucci wrote:

Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:

All Gucci wrote:

Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:

Cardiac Regulators are relatively useless on Amarr and Min suits, they're more needed and more worthy of the slot sacrifice on gal/gal suits, but kincats are great for all, especially Min and Amarr.

amarr benefit the least out of all the suits so we amarr tend to keep away from kincats.... it's not worth it for us

No Amarr have a great stamina pool to compliment it, amarr benefit more than cal/gal.

Not worth it, for the same pg cost we can just put a complex rep .... reactives with kincats still dont benefit us because just a 2% movement speed reduction will stop an amarr assault from jumping over a railing Straight

Mr. Pubstar, that is your opinion, I don't know why I bother explaining sometimes, there are a lot of amarr assault slayers that run dual kincat amarr assaults because they know how to use it, not everyone relies on pure HP mods. And I am not only talking about the amarr assault but i know you are, always.

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Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8190	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:32:00 - [1] - Quote Bored at work, need some entertaining discussion to make the next three hours pass. Are you a Cardiac Regulator kinda guy(/girl) or a Kinetic Catalyzer kinda guy(/girl)? Explain your reasonings why. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 5197	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:33:00 - [2] - Quote Speed is always praised (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1886	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:34:00 - [3] - Quote Kincats. Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 You got gud - DAAAA BEAST
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 21530	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:37:00 - [4] - Quote Kincats. *Vote 'Keshava' for a new Gallente vehicle name!* Gallente Guide to DUST
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8190	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:40:00 - [5] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Kincats. Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. I tend to disagree. Maybe for the MinScout, sure, but there's a lot to consider for anyone else. For instance, here's some math. Cat Merc likes to use Kinetic Catalyzers, I'm more of a Cardiac Regulator kind of person. Let's say for the sake of Argument that Cat Merc and I were both using a Gallente Assault with nothing on it but our respective biotics. This gives him a 12.6% increase to sprint speed and I get a 110% increase to my max stamina and stamina recharge. What this means is that he's able to move a grand total of 0.93m/s faster than myself, which helps in the whole of 18.5s that base stamina allows... But if we imagination a situation in which he's chasing me, and we're 100m apart, by the end of that 18.5s he'll only be 28m closer by the time he runs out of stamina. Meanwhile I've still got more than half of my stamina left, continuing to sprint ahead and increasing the gap while he's struggling for a breather. IMO, Kinetic Catalyzers are great for running down slow targets and closing short gaps but the Cardiac Regulator is where it's at if you're wanting to not only outlast your pursuer but leave him in the dust by incredible ranges. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Grease Spillett Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 650	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:43:00 - [6] - Quote I think they should employ a hybrid of the two. Reduce percentages tho. Next time you see me, bring more friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 846	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:43:00 - [7] - Quote Cardiacs because gallente suits all have smoking problems and can only run for so long. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk #We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 272	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:44:00 - [8] - Quote Cardiac Regulators are relatively useless on Amarr and Min suits, they're more needed and more worthy of the slot sacrifice on gal/gal suits, but kincats are great for all, especially Min and Amarr.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8190	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:45:00 - [9] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: I think they should employ a hybrid of the two. Reduce percentages tho. Was actually thinking about this early. Cut the benefits of both down a notch and hybridize both. Kin Cats giving an 8% increase to sprint speed instead of 10% but with an additional 25% stamina/stamina regen. Cardiac Regulator giving a 75-80% increase to stamina/stamina regen with a 2.5% to sprint speed. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
TritusX PH4NT0M5 197	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:45:00 - [10] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Cardiacs because gallente suits all have smoking problems and can only run for so long. What if you had a Complex KinCat and Reg on a proto min scout with max biotics you've got yourself a nova knifer who will chase you down and and never stop some guy
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 272	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:47:00 - [11] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: I think they should employ a hybrid of the two. Reduce percentages tho. Was actually thinking about this early. Cut the benefits of both down a notch and hybridize both. Kin Cats giving an 8% increase to sprint speed instead of 10% but with an additional 25% stamina/stamina regen. Cardiac Regulator giving a 75-80% increase to stamina/stamina regen with a 2.5% to sprint speed. Would be perfect for gal/cal suits.
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:50:00 - [12] - Quote Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: Cardiac Regulators are relatively useless on Amarr and Min suits, they're more needed and more worthy of the slot sacrifice on gal/gal suits, but kincats are great for all, especially Min and Amarr. amarr benefit the least out of all the suits so we amarr tend to keep away from kincats.... it's not worth it for us Director / Slayer / Emperor
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7560	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:54:00 - [13] - Quote TritusX wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Cardiacs because gallente suits all have smoking problems and can only run for so long. What if you had a Complex KinCat and Reg on a proto min scout with max biotics you've got yourself a nova knifer who will chase you down and and never stop The stamina recharge rate on a Minja is so fast that if you had a 2nd KinCat instead of a Reg I think you would be better off. If you find that you are running out of a juice a lot however, maybe reconsider that Reg. At the very least they are less resource intensive than KinCats. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 272	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:56:00 - [14] - Quote All Gucci wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: Cardiac Regulators are relatively useless on Amarr and Min suits, they're more needed and more worthy of the slot sacrifice on gal/gal suits, but kincats are great for all, especially Min and Amarr. amarr benefit the least out of all the suits so we amarr tend to keep away from kincats.... it's not worth it for us No Amarr have a great stamina pool to compliment it, amarr benefit more than cal/gal.
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1824	Posted - 2015.02.01 20:56:00 - [15] - Quote Can't wait for the new Myofibs with included black hops Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1886	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:04:00 - [16] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Kincats. Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. Snip I know. That's why I said FOR THE MINJA. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 You got gud - DAAAA BEAST
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8191	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:09:00 - [17] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Kincats. Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. Snip I know. That's why I said FOR THE MINJA. WELL I'M SORRY FOR TRYING TO SPARK UP SOME CONVERSATION MISS PRISSY PANTS, I DID SAY I WANTED SOME DISCUSSION IN THE OP YANNO; BUT IT'S COOL BRAH, I HAD YOU COVERED HERE Aeon Amadi wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Kincats. Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. I tend to disagree. Maybe for the MinScout, sure, but there's a lot to consider for anyone else. For instance, here's some math. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy 7	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:14:00 - [18] - Quote Ok. What I want to do in the new warlords update is stack myrofobils, save one extender, and on the other side put a KinCat and damp (though these days you don't need a damp unless there is a galogi so it's better off just using that slot for something else) then run Knives and a Flaylock/ CR. Love that super high jump and speed while I knife or blow you up
Funkmaster Whale Whale Pod 2804	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:15:00 - [19] - Quote Cardiac Regs all the way cause I jump too much. I'm addicted to dat spacebar key. Follow me on Twitch.tv!
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8191	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:17:00 - [20] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: Cardiac Regs all the way cause I jump too much. I'm addicted to dat spacebar key. NB4 KB/M hatebomb Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 167	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:19:00 - [21] - Quote Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: All Gucci wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: Cardiac Regulators are relatively useless on Amarr and Min suits, they're more needed and more worthy of the slot sacrifice on gal/gal suits, but kincats are great for all, especially Min and Amarr. amarr benefit the least out of all the suits so we amarr tend to keep away from kincats.... it's not worth it for us No Amarr have a great stamina pool to compliment it, amarr benefit more than cal/gal. Not worth it, for the same pg cost we can just put a complex rep .... reactives with kincats still dont benefit us because just a 2% movement speed reduction will stop an amarr assault from jumping over a railing Director / Slayer / Emperor
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8191	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:22:00 - [22] - Quote All Gucci wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: All Gucci wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: Cardiac Regulators are relatively useless on Amarr and Min suits, they're more needed and more worthy of the slot sacrifice on gal/gal suits, but kincats are great for all, especially Min and Amarr. amarr benefit the least out of all the suits so we amarr tend to keep away from kincats.... it's not worth it for us No Amarr have a great stamina pool to compliment it, amarr benefit more than cal/gal. Not worth it, for the same pg cost we can just put a complex rep .... reactives with kincats still dont benefit us because just a 2% movement speed reduction will stop an amarr assault from jumping over a railing But soon you will be able to put Myrofibrals in the highs and be able to increase your jump height =3 Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5925	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:22:00 - [23] - Quote Kincats. Because I like Speed. I use both on my Amarr Scout, however. Run fo' days.
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 273	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:27:00 - [24] - Quote All Gucci wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: All Gucci wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: Cardiac Regulators are relatively useless on Amarr and Min suits, they're more needed and more worthy of the slot sacrifice on gal/gal suits, but kincats are great for all, especially Min and Amarr. amarr benefit the least out of all the suits so we amarr tend to keep away from kincats.... it's not worth it for us No Amarr have a great stamina pool to compliment it, amarr benefit more than cal/gal. Not worth it, for the same pg cost we can just put a complex rep .... reactives with kincats still dont benefit us because just a 2% movement speed reduction will stop an amarr assault from jumping over a railing Mr. Pubstar, that is your opinion, I don't know why I bother explaining sometimes, there are a lot of amarr assault slayers that run dual kincat amarr assaults because the know to use it, not everyone relies on pure HP mods. And I am not only talking about the amarr assault but i know you are, always.
Binx Klepto Molon Labe. 21	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:28:00 - [25] - Quote You have to ask yourself do I stay behind cover and let my shield recharge or do I run away so my enemy can't attack me. When you run your enemy as just as much time as you do to repair any damage taken. I use both but it depends on the weapon I'm using. Fellow Flaylock Believer
Funkmaster Whale Whale Pod 2804	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:35:00 - [26] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Funkmaster Whale wrote: Cardiac Regs all the way cause I jump too much. I'm addicted to dat spacebar key. NB4 KB/M hatebomb The hate would make sense if KB/M (specifically mouse) actually worked properly in this game. Mouse aiming is still utter shite and anyone who says otherwise is just ignorant. Follow me on Twitch.tv!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7330	Posted - 2015.02.01 21:46:00 - [27] - Quote Kinetic Catalyzers when I'm running no more than one plate and Cardiac Regulators when I'm running two or more plates. At less than two plates having a cardiac regulator isn't justifiable unless you are running a heavy suit. If you have two or more regular plates than having a Kinetic Catalyzer really isn't going to make enough of a difference since you will run out of stamina long before the Catalyzer makes a difference to your performance. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
ROMULUS H3X research lab 296	Posted - 2015.02.01 22:03:00 - [28] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Bored at work, need some entertaining discussion to make the next three hours pass. Are you a Cardiac Regulator kinda guy(/girl) or a Kinetic Catalyzer kinda guy(/girl)? Explain your reasonings why. BOTH. Unless I am wearing minmatar suits... no need for the cardiac... if i stop for a second to scan, then my stamina is full.. sometimes i think it is overpowered... but then i remember that minmatars are paper-thin and it's an okay trade-off. FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8195	Posted - 2015.02.01 22:18:00 - [29] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Bored at work, need some entertaining discussion to make the next three hours pass. Are you a Cardiac Regulator kinda guy(/girl) or a Kinetic Catalyzer kinda guy(/girl)? Explain your reasonings why. BOTH. Unless I am wearing minmatar suits... no need for the cardiac... if i stop for a second to scan, then my stamina is full.. sometimes i think it is overpowered... but then i remember that minmatars are paper-thin and it's an okay trade-off. Not really. I get as much tank out of my Min Assault as I do my Gal Assault. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 168	Posted - 2015.02.01 22:40:00 - [30] - Quote Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: All Gucci wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: All Gucci wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: Cardiac Regulators are relatively useless on Amarr and Min suits, they're more needed and more worthy of the slot sacrifice on gal/gal suits, but kincats are great for all, especially Min and Amarr. amarr benefit the least out of all the suits so we amarr tend to keep away from kincats.... it's not worth it for us No Amarr have a great stamina pool to compliment it, amarr benefit more than cal/gal. Not worth it, for the same pg cost we can just put a complex rep .... reactives with kincats still dont benefit us because just a 2% movement speed reduction will stop an amarr assault from jumping over a railing Mr. Pubstar, that is your opinion, I don't know why I bother explaining sometimes, there are a lot of amarr assault slayers that run dual kincat amarr assaults because they know how to use it, not everyone relies on pure HP mods. And I am not only talking about the amarr assault but i know you are, always. I have yet to see a fast amarr assault.... maybe they die too quick to be noticed lol Dual kincat amarr is laughable even borderline foolish. But IMO Director / Slayer / Emperor

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