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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.02.01 20:32:00 -
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Bored at work, need some entertaining discussion to make the next three hours pass.
Are you a Cardiac Regulator kinda guy(/girl) or a Kinetic Catalyzer kinda guy(/girl)? Explain your reasonings why.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.02.01 20:40:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Kincats.
Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja.
I tend to disagree. Maybe for the MinScout, sure, but there's a lot to consider for anyone else. For instance, here's some math.
Cat Merc likes to use Kinetic Catalyzers, I'm more of a Cardiac Regulator kind of person. Let's say for the sake of Argument that Cat Merc and I were both using a Gallente Assault with nothing on it but our respective biotics. This gives him a 12.6% increase to sprint speed and I get a 110% increase to my max stamina and stamina recharge.
What this means is that he's able to move a grand total of 0.93m/s faster than myself, which helps in the whole of 18.5s that base stamina allows... But if we imagination a situation in which he's chasing me, and we're 100m apart, by the end of that 18.5s he'll only be 28m closer by the time he runs out of stamina. Meanwhile I've still got more than half of my stamina left, continuing to sprint ahead and increasing the gap while he's struggling for a breather.
IMO, Kinetic Catalyzers are great for running down slow targets and closing short gaps but the Cardiac Regulator is where it's at if you're wanting to not only outlast your pursuer but leave him in the dust by incredible ranges.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.02.01 20:45:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:I think they should employ a hybrid of the two. Reduce percentages tho.
Was actually thinking about this early. Cut the benefits of both down a notch and hybridize both.
Kin Cats giving an 8% increase to sprint speed instead of 10% but with an additional 25% stamina/stamina regen.
Cardiac Regulator giving a 75-80% increase to stamina/stamina regen with a 2.5% to sprint speed.
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.02.01 21:09:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Kincats.
Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. Snip I know. That's why I said FOR THE MINJA.
WELL I'M SORRY FOR TRYING TO SPARK UP SOME CONVERSATION MISS PRISSY PANTS, I DID SAY I WANTED SOME DISCUSSION IN THE OP YANNO; BUT IT'S COOL BRAH, I HAD YOU COVERED HERE
Aeon Amadi wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Kincats.
Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. I tend to disagree. Maybe for the MinScout, sure, but there's a lot to consider for anyone else. For instance, here's some math.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.02.01 21:17:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cardiac Regs all the way cause I jump too much.
I'm addicted to dat spacebar key.
NB4 KB/M hatebomb
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.02.01 21:22:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:All Gucci wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Cardiac Regulators are relatively useless on Amarr and Min suits, they're more needed and more worthy of the slot sacrifice on gal/gal suits, but kincats are great for all, especially Min and Amarr. amarr benefit the least out of all the suits so we amarr tend to keep away from kincats.... it's not worth it for us No Amarr have a great stamina pool to compliment it, amarr benefit more than cal/gal. Not worth it, for the same pg cost we can just put a complex rep .... reactives with kincats still dont benefit us because just a 2% movement speed reduction will stop an amarr assault from jumping over a railing 
But soon you will be able to put Myrofibrals in the highs and be able to increase your jump height =3
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.02.01 22:18:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Bored at work, need some entertaining discussion to make the next three hours pass.
Are you a Cardiac Regulator kinda guy(/girl) or a Kinetic Catalyzer kinda guy(/girl)? Explain your reasonings why. BOTH. Unless I am wearing minmatar suits... no need for the cardiac... if i stop for a second to scan, then my stamina is full.. sometimes i think it is overpowered... but then i remember that minmatars are paper-thin and it's an okay trade-off.
Not really. I get as much tank out of my Min Assault as I do my Gal Assault.
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.02.01 23:32:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Kincats.
Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. I tend to disagree. Maybe for the MinScout, sure, but there's a lot to consider for anyone else. For instance, here's some math. Cat Merc likes to use Kinetic Catalyzers, I'm more of a Cardiac Regulator kind of person. Let's say for the sake of Argument that Cat Merc and I were both using a Gallente Assault with nothing on it but our respective biotics. This gives him a 12.6% increase to sprint speed and I get a 110% increase to my max stamina and stamina recharge. What this means is that he's able to move a grand total of 0.93m/s faster than myself, which helps in the whole of 18.5s that base stamina allows... But if we imagination a situation in which he's chasing me, and we're 100m apart, by the end of that 18.5s he'll only be 28m closer by the time he runs out of stamina. Meanwhile I've still got more than half of my stamina left, continuing to sprint ahead and increasing the gap while he's struggling for a breather. IMO, Kinetic Catalyzers are great for running down slow targets and closing short gaps but the Cardiac Regulator is where it's at if you're wanting to not only outlast your pursuer but leave him in the dust by incredible ranges. Yes, but when he runs out of stamina, he shoots you in the back at the now closer range...
Which is cool, if he's within range of his weaponry and can keep a steady aim at a target running dead sprint. 18.5 seconds is a long time to gain 28m.
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.02.02 01:38:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Cardiac Regs all the way cause I jump too much.
I'm addicted to dat spacebar key. You'll only be able to jump 3 times since it's % based...
But you'll also recover stamina quicker so that you can sprint out of danger.
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.02.02 12:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Kincats.
Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. I tend to disagree. Maybe for the MinScout, sure, but there's a lot to consider for anyone else. For instance, here's some math. Cat Merc likes to use Kinetic Catalyzers, I'm more of a Cardiac Regulator kind of person. Let's say for the sake of Argument that Cat Merc and I were both using a Gallente Assault with nothing on it but our respective biotics. This gives him a 12.6% increase to sprint speed and I get a 110% increase to my max stamina and stamina recharge. What this means is that he's able to move a grand total of 0.93m/s faster than myself, which helps in the whole of 18.5s that base stamina allows... But if we imagination a situation in which he's chasing me, and we're 100m apart, by the end of that 18.5s he'll only be 28m closer by the time he runs out of stamina. Meanwhile I've still got more than half of my stamina left, continuing to sprint ahead and increasing the gap while he's struggling for a breather. IMO, Kinetic Catalyzers are great for running down slow targets and closing short gaps but the Cardiac Regulator is where it's at if you're wanting to not only outlast your pursuer but leave him in the dust by incredible ranges. That only works for long distances. When you apply that to CQC combat, where Gallente Assaults are supposed to thrive, that simply stops to work in your favor nearly as much.
Lol, I love the italics. Because you know I'm going to bring up Heavies. Which is why I use the Cardiac Regulator to begin with considering that I'm already faster than them and having that much more stamina is going to put me WELL out of harm's way. No more of this "HMG killed you from 40-50m away" non-sense x3
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.02.02 12:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Kincats.
Apparently they give a better advantage in every circumstance for the minja. I tend to disagree. Maybe for the MinScout, sure, but there's a lot to consider for anyone else. For instance, here's some math. Cat Merc likes to use Kinetic Catalyzers, I'm more of a Cardiac Regulator kind of person. Let's say for the sake of Argument that Cat Merc and I were both using a Gallente Assault with nothing on it but our respective biotics. This gives him a 12.6% increase to sprint speed and I get a 110% increase to my max stamina and stamina recharge. What this means is that he's able to move a grand total of 0.93m/s faster than myself, which helps in the whole of 18.5s that base stamina allows... But if we imagination a situation in which he's chasing me, and we're 100m apart, by the end of that 18.5s he'll only be 28m closer by the time he runs out of stamina. Meanwhile I've still got more than half of my stamina left, continuing to sprint ahead and increasing the gap while he's struggling for a breather. IMO, Kinetic Catalyzers are great for running down slow targets and closing short gaps but the Cardiac Regulator is where it's at if you're wanting to not only outlast your pursuer but leave him in the dust by incredible ranges. That only works for long distances. When you apply that to CQC combat, where Gallente Assaults are supposed to thrive, that simply stops to work in your favor nearly as much. Lol, I love the italics. Because you know I'm going to bring up Heavies. Which is why I use the Cardiac Regulator to begin with considering that I'm already faster than them and having that much more stamina is going to put me WELL out of harm's way. No more of this "HMG killed you from 40-50m away" non-sense x3 Eh, dual kin cats saved me from the wrath of the HMG many times.
-Shrug- Guess it's personal preference then. I still have issues with the HMG on my Min Assault so speed isn't the issue for me. I like to stay around cover where I have to run a lot of twists and turns.
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