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White-Lion Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 69	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:23:00 - [1] - Quote I am having sort of mixed emotions about these new BPO vehicles. For the most part im fine with the LAV, but the HAV I can see being spammed on the field. Which if you have an AV support on your team it should be fine but, for those that dont, they know that relying on blueberries for AV duty doesnt ever work out. I also believe that the dropship BPO is a very bad idea solely on the basis of the many accounts of ramming i have recieved from militia dropship taking out a 600k isk ads just because the team is doesnt have any form of AV to effectivly combat it. I think vehicle warfare will greatly decline due to the lack of risk involved in loosing a BPO tank or dropship. Sure it can be used for its intended purpose such as transport, but there wont be worth while fights in public contracts anymore (as far as vehicle warfare). How all ads battles end...
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1707	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:24:00 - [2] - Quote Lol... The tears will be plenty. Also, pretty sure you have to buy the mods and turrets, I don't think it will come pre fitted. As for vehicle warfare, I hope it will be a step in the right direction, as people will be more inclined to fight vehicles with it without having to risk sooooo much. Progression might be a thing. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 5191	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:26:00 - [3] - Quote InB4Soraya LAVs are the only BPOs being released. The other Quafe vehicles are BPC (eliminated on destruction). This wasn't promoted well by CCP I see. Neckbeard for Good charity shave
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5694	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:26:00 - [4] - Quote There is no BPO tanks or dropships. They're BPCs, one-time use. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5694	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:27:00 - [5] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: InB4Soraya LAVs are the only BPOs being released. The other Quafe vehicles are BPC (eliminated on destruction). This wasn't promoted well by CCP I see. **ing **. Same minute even. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5755	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:47:00 - [6] - Quote They're not-... Oh. You guys got this covered. Okay, then.
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2900	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:51:00 - [7] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: InB4Soraya LAVs are the only BPOs being released. The other Quafe vehicles are BPC (eliminated on destruction). This wasn't promoted well by CCP I see. Lol post of the day. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
B1G Boss B0SS initiative 39	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:59:00 - [8] - Quote White-Lion wrote: I am having sort of mixed emotions about these new BPO vehicles. For the most part im fine with the LAV, but the HAV I can see being spammed on the field. Which if you have an AV support on your team it should be fine but, for those that dont, they know that relying on blueberries for AV duty doesnt ever work out. I also believe that the dropship BPO is a very bad idea solely on the basis of the many accounts of ramming i have recieved from militia dropship taking out a 600k isk ads just because the team is doesnt have any form of AV to effectivly combat it. I think vehicle warfare will greatly decline due to the lack of risk involved in loosing a BPO tank or dropship. Sure it can be used for its intended purpose such as transport, but there wont be worth while fights in public contracts anymore (as far as vehicle warfare). They are bpc's not bpo's Snake. Snake? SNAAAAAKE!!!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1742	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:06:00 - [9] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: There is no BPO tanks or dropships. They're BPCs, one-time use. People can't read Crush them
zDemoncake Horizons' Edge 295	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:11:00 - [10] - Quote I'm sure hoping that all these Quafe skins aren't an underlying tone that the Quafe Company is amassing a private army. CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division *My soul, your beats!* Enemy to many; equal to none.

Nirwanda Vaughns 1290	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:31:00 - [11] - Quote Be nice to have other ways to obtain the new BPOs than the highly flawed strongbox method. i'd rather just go out and spend 20-30k AUR on suits/weapons/LAV bpos than p*s about buying keys or grinding daily missions for them. if the warbarge subsystem that generates keys was out it wouldn't be so bad but it just seems like a desperate attempt at getting more keys bought. perhaps if the strongbox loot had regular modules removed and was exclusivly limited edition items then more players would buy them. i'd feel more rewarded gettign 1-3 officer weapons than 19 frontline mk-IIs. i'm at 80m sp wtf do i want with a frontline mk-II Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner*

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 15876	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:22:00 - [12] - Quote Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1713	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:26:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Lel. Its OK Rattati, just normal forum drivel. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Sequal's Back Intara Direct Action Caldari State 205	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:31:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Hahaha that's quite true indeed ^^ But anyways, before hoping to get interesting things in strongboxes, imma pray to get keys ~~. Got only 10 so far, and all these frontline dropsuits can burn in hell!!! Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4464	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:34:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market We're bipolar Seriously Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8000	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:49:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Missed the point entirely. It's not that we want to buy it directly on the market, it's just we want some guarantee that we're not going to get caught in a long run of bad-luck that requires EXTRAORDINARY amounts of money to find even a single BPO/BPC, let alone the one we're shooting for. Another factor is that BPO's being in strongboxes insinuate that there's a chance we'll get more than one, which is unnecessary. There's also the factor of the strongbox/key ratio just from playing the game - it's incredibly one sided. I've got 75+ just chilling in storage and I haven't really played the game in two weeks. The game hands these things out like candy but we're expected to get keys through daily missions (which is skewed as well because they sometimes are only reward for the Savant daily mission, which requires you to spend aurum for the instant boost...) Everyone hates strongboxes in their current form. They're given out far too freely and -EXPENSIVE- as hell to open at the rate they're given out. It's the fact that we have to not only play the game, but are basically forced to spend exorbitant amounts of money for a -chance- to get the thing we want. Make sense? Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 15889	Posted - 2015.01.28 02:34:00 - [17] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Missed the point entirely. It's not that we want to buy it directly on the market, it's just we want some guarantee that we're not going to get caught in a long run of bad-luck that requires EXTRAORDINARY amounts of money to find even a single BPO/BPC, let alone the one we're shooting for. Another factor is that BPO's being in strongboxes insinuate that there's a chance we'll get more than one, which is unnecessary. There's also the factor of the strongbox/key ratio just from playing the game - it's incredibly one sided. I've got 75+ just chilling in storage and I haven't really played the game in two weeks. The game hands these things out like candy but we're expected to get keys through daily missions (which is skewed as well because they sometimes are only reward for the Savant daily mission, which requires you to spend aurum for the instant boost...) Everyone hates strongboxes in their current form. They're given out far too freely and -EXPENSIVE- as hell to open at the rate they're given out. It's the fact that we have to not only play the game, but are basically forced to spend exorbitant amounts of money for a -chance- to get the thing we want. Make sense? Why do you want guaranteed, better looking, not even more powerful gear? I know a few WoW raiders that have the same issue except that their gear is actually better, and they have no guarantees. "Forced" is a very weird word in this circumstance. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8004	Posted - 2015.01.28 02:49:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Missed the point entirely. It's not that we want to buy it directly on the market, it's just we want some guarantee that we're not going to get caught in a long run of bad-luck that requires EXTRAORDINARY amounts of money to find even a single BPO/BPC, let alone the one we're shooting for. Another factor is that BPO's being in strongboxes insinuate that there's a chance we'll get more than one, which is unnecessary. There's also the factor of the strongbox/key ratio just from playing the game - it's incredibly one sided. I've got 75+ just chilling in storage and I haven't really played the game in two weeks. The game hands these things out like candy but we're expected to get keys through daily missions (which is skewed as well because they sometimes are only reward for the Savant daily mission, which requires you to spend aurum for the instant boost...) Everyone hates strongboxes in their current form. They're given out far too freely and -EXPENSIVE- as hell to open at the rate they're given out. It's the fact that we have to not only play the game, but are basically forced to spend exorbitant amounts of money for a -chance- to get the thing we want. Make sense? Why do you want guaranteed, better looking, not even more powerful gear? I know a few WoW raiders that have the same issue except that their gear is actually better, and they have no guarantees. "Forced" is a very weird word in this circumstance. Because that's the entire premise of vanity items? O.o;; Take a look at Warframe for instance. You can totally get some different helmets through playing the game but to my knowledge there's no way to obtain animation sets, color palettes (to color your suit), or different texture patterns through in-game play. It's all monetization based. There's no real 'gamble' at it, the players aren't throwing in $10 to -MAYBE- get what they want among a whole host of other options like we do with the Strongboxes. It's one thing we've been trying to get through to you guys at CCP is that you have this -GLORIOUS- opportunity to make tones of money by allowing players to spend money to look a certain way on the battlefield without it having to be an 'upgrade' or 'better performing' gear (I.E: BPO's or APEX suits which reduce ISK losses). People will pay for the color schemes. And yeah, okay, 'forced' is the wrong word... Incentivized/encouraged, more like. I don't really care for the Kaalakiota Scout. I don' want it, I don't run Scout. So if I throw $10 worth of money to get some keys, open up a bunch of strongboxes, I have a -chance- at getting a Kaalakiota Scout just as much as a Roden Sentinel (which is what I want). It'd be different if there was a trading system where I could trade that Kaalakiota Scout with someone for a Roden Sentinel. I'd be chill with that. But there's not, so, in order to look flashy on the battlefield I have to invest as much money as necessary to get the kittened thing x3 Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 493	Posted - 2015.01.28 02:56:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Missed the point entirely. It's not that we want to buy it directly on the market, it's just we want some guarantee that we're not going to get caught in a long run of bad-luck that requires EXTRAORDINARY amounts of money to find even a single BPO/BPC, let alone the one we're shooting for. Another factor is that BPO's being in strongboxes insinuate that there's a chance we'll get more than one, which is unnecessary. There's also the factor of the strongbox/key ratio just from playing the game - it's incredibly one sided. I've got 75+ just chilling in storage and I haven't really played the game in two weeks. The game hands these things out like candy but we're expected to get keys through daily missions (which is skewed as well because they sometimes are only reward for the Savant daily mission, which requires you to spend aurum for the instant boost...) Everyone hates strongboxes in their current form. They're given out far too freely and -EXPENSIVE- as hell to open at the rate they're given out. It's the fact that we have to not only play the game, but are basically forced to spend exorbitant amounts of money for a -chance- to get the thing we want. Make sense? Why do you want guaranteed, better looking, not even more powerful gear? I know a few WoW raiders that have the same issue except that their gear is actually better, and they have no guarantees. "Forced" is a very weird word in this circumstance. Talking to my mate Ulaenyth who runs raids constantly on WoW and picked up WoD preorder and he had this to say about it: Ulaenyth wrote: If done right, raid drops arn't really random. The drops may not be beneficial for you but it may be beneficial for others in your group. We both think this is a brilliant thing you have done Rattati but at the same time we would like to see Factional Encrypted Keys that will give us a better chance to get Quafe suits for the faction we use. Have it so we earn these through LP and daily missions. Also personally I would like to have more missions where I can earn more encrypted keys as I only get 1-2 a week in missions. Also I cannot afford to buy mass amounts of keys with Aurum as I have to put my family first. Edit: Also P2P trading will help with this as well. Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more! - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8004	Posted - 2015.01.28 03:01:00 - [20] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Talking to my mate Ulaenyth who runs raids constantly on WoW and picked up WoD preorder and he had this to say about it: We both think this is a brilliant thing you have done Rattati but at the same time we would like to see Factional Encrypted Keys that will give us a better chance to get Quafe suits for the faction we use. Have it so we earn these through LP and daily missions. Also personally I would like to have more missions where I can earn more encrypted keys as I only get 1-2 a week in missions. Also I cannot afford to buy mass amounts of keys with Aurum as I have to put my family first. Edit: Also P2P trading will help with this as well. Exactly. Problem is those BPC Aurum stuff are anywhere from $0.03 - $0.05 PER SUIT, which is a lot of money to lose ($5.00 per 100 suits). That's why BPO's are so popular, $10 will net you a permanent cosmetic that not only looks flashy but has a game-changing effect: Reduced ISK losses. Tack on the fact that we're now gambling for the chance to obtain them with a very limited opportunity through in-game methods (the 1-2 keys a week thing) and these cosmetics are -INSANELY- valuable just because of the amount of time/play/money involved in obtaining them with any sort of consistency. Even EVE Online is moving away from the 'cost per issue' thing and going to permanent licenses that apply to the ISK cost ship because they realize they're more likely to persuade people to buy the skins if they only have to buy them once xD Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback

axis alpha Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 514	Posted - 2015.01.28 03:50:00 - [21] - Quote I think its awesome you only get some dropsuits and other stuff only in strongboxes. It makes it super rare to get items. Exciting if you ask me I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5771	Posted - 2015.01.28 03:54:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Just another reason why I wuvs you. You be da cool dev, along with all them GMs who post. Actually, everyone working on Dust, right now.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 798	Posted - 2015.01.28 03:55:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Exactly now go and do your homework properly and add that stuff to the market. You can keep the BPO's as drops from the strongbox but 99% of the players would rather buy the thing directly as trying their luck on this nonesense. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Kaughst Nyain San 820	Posted - 2015.01.28 04:08:00 - [24] - Quote Reintroduce drone survival, make it so you have higher chance to get keys. Boom Don't think about that, think about all the money.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1056	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:42:00 - [25] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Missed the point entirely. It's not that we want to buy it directly on the market, it's just we want some guarantee that we're not going to get caught in a long run of bad-luck that requires EXTRAORDINARY amounts of money to find even a single BPO/BPC, let alone the one we're shooting for. Another factor is that BPO's being in strongboxes insinuate that there's a chance we'll get more than one, which is unnecessary. There's also the factor of the strongbox/key ratio just from playing the game - it's incredibly one sided. I've got 75+ just chilling in storage and I haven't really played the game in two weeks. The game hands these things out like candy but we're expected to get keys through daily missions (which is skewed as well because they sometimes are only reward for the Savant daily mission, which requires you to spend aurum for the instant boost...) Everyone hates strongboxes in their current form. They're given out far too freely and -EXPENSIVE- as hell to open at the rate they're given out. It's the fact that we have to not only play the game, but are basically forced to spend exorbitant amounts of money for a -chance- to get the thing we want. Make sense? Why do you want guaranteed, better looking, not even more powerful gear? I know a few WoW raiders that have the same issue except that their gear is actually better, and they have no guarantees. "Forced" is a very weird word in this circumstance. Because that's the entire premise of vanity items? O.o;; Take a look at Warframe for instance. You can totally get some different helmets through playing the game but to my knowledge there's no way to obtain animation sets, color palettes (to color your suit), or different texture patterns through in-game play. It's all monetization based. There's no real 'gamble' at it, the players aren't throwing in $10 to -MAYBE- get what they want among a whole host of other options like we do with the Strongboxes. It's one thing we've been trying to get through to you guys at CCP is that you have this -GLORIOUS- opportunity to make tones of money by allowing players to spend money to look a certain way on the battlefield without it having to be an 'upgrade' or 'better performing' gear (I.E: BPO's or APEX suits which reduce ISK losses). People will pay for the color schemes. And yeah, okay, 'forced' is the wrong word... Incentivized/encouraged, more like. I don't really care for the Kaalakiota Scout. I don' want it, I don't run Scout. So if I throw $10 worth of money to get some keys, open up a bunch of strongboxes, I have a -chance- at getting a Kaalakiota Scout just as much as a Roden Sentinel (which is what I want). It'd be different if there was a trading system where I could trade that Kaalakiota Scout with someone for a Roden Sentinel. I'd be chill with that. But there's not, so, in order to look flashy on the battlefield I have to invest as much money as necessary to get the kittened thing x3 Your right 100% give me the option to buy what I want and I will and do. Give me the option to gamble and I will do without. I have 5 bpo g-I scouts because I chose to buy them for the skins. I will not buy keys because I do not gamble. It is bad enough I have to spend so much time in game selling off all the junk I get in mission rewards and salvage. I would be pissed if i bought keys only to sell the junk got from the strongbox to vendor for next to nothing isk. simple trading might help with that. but is it going to be simple 2 way trading or simple 1 way scam trading If you can't kill them scan them. Meta 13 Proto Stomp G-I Scout
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18531	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:51:00 - [26] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Take a look at Warframe for instance. You can totally get some different helmets through playing the game but to my knowledge there's no way to obtain animation sets, color palettes (to color your suit), or different texture patterns through in-game play. It's all monetization based. There's no real 'gamble' at it, the players aren't throwing in $10 to -MAYBE- get what they want among a whole host of other options like we do with the Strongboxes. Every warframe comes with 2 animation sets default to them. They also have bad value considering you cannot preview these things on how they may look on your warframe that isnt the original owner of it. Various Color pallets and skin textures of varying degrees are offered throughout the year for a low price of 1k credits or even given for free as a thank you. Also can be considered bad value because you have no idea how they may look on your warframe. Armor bits and scarfs can be obtained from the Void Trader how well you can farm is all a gamble though worse so than other games RNG though. Also you have no idea how they may look on your warframe. Sigils are a means of customizing your war-frames chest and back emblems are obtainable via syndicates. You can get other kinds of sigils for amazing feats and luck. (Stalker's) Oddly enough the ONLY thing I noted so far that gives you a preview of what it may look like. Also there is no buy-able sigils aside from the founders pack. Badges are a means of adorning your shoulders of accomplishments; only one badge is sold for premium currency and that would be your clan's own badge. Rest has to be earned. Platinum is trade-able thus in theory all cosmetics can be eventually obtained. However the things people are willing to pay for and the chances of you getting said items are very RNG like probably worse-so than the crates and even more so the market shifts often so by the time you finally get that one thing; people wont be buying it anymore. Based on the current trade times it may take you 150+ traded items just to get some basic cosmetics and of course there is the work effort in making the trade item appealing like modding a card to full energy; a 1000 core and 2,000,000 credit effort at times. Worst offering from DE? 5 card pack for real money; RNG generally gives you the worst/most worthless cards in the game. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 592	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:52:00 - [27] - Quote I really like the strongbox concept, and many other games have them. (CounterStrike comes to mind, and if I am not wrong you can't get keys at all in that game without forking out $$$). The only snag I have with Dust system, which was mentioned by Aeon, is the relative drop rate of boxes vs keys. I think it's simple math really. - If a player get 100 boxes for every "free" key per week, we quicky calculate it would cost roughly 80000 AUR/ per week to open them all, leaving a bit of sour taste. Realising it would cost a fortune to "keep up", he buys 0 keys as a result (gives up). - if a player get 10 boxes for every "free" key per week, it will cost to roughly 8000 AUR per week to "keep up", which is much more attainable, and the likelihood that "the average Joe" would buy some keys are increased, in the end making MORE money for CCP. I can only speak of myself of course, but my desire to fork out AUR for the keys would increase if the box/key ratio were smaller. As stated, this is my ONLY problem with the strongbox concept, and I just love the new stuff you plan to add!
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8030	Posted - 2015.01.28 06:34:00 - [28] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Every warframe comes with 2 animation sets default to them. They also have bad value considering you cannot preview these things on how they may look on your warframe that isnt the original owner of it. True, but considering there's no comparison point for Dust 514, a moot point. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Various Color pallets and skin textures of varying degrees are offered throughout the year for a low price of 1k credits or even given for free as a thank you. Also can be considered bad value because you have no idea how they may look on your warframe. Armor bits and scarfs can be obtained from the Void Trader how well you can farm is all a gamble though worse so than other games RNG though. Also you have no idea how they may look on your warframe. You can absolutely preview color options on your warframe simply by hovering the mouse over the selected color. Most of the palettes given on sale or for free are often holiday event-themed, such as the Easter palette. Armor bits/scarves can also be previewed in your arsenal by hovering the mouse over the selected item and the Void Trader will sell them as a random chance with -exceptionally- high in-game costs due to the fact that you have to sell orokin parts en masse (which will take you hours and hours of farming) and then wait for the trader to both come around and just so happen to be offering the item you want. This is completely different than not knowing what the trader is selling and buying blindly. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sigils are a means of customizing your war-frames chest and back emblems are obtainable via syndicates. You can get other kinds of sigils for amazing feats and luck. (Stalker's) Oddly enough the ONLY thing I noted so far that gives you a preview of what it may look like. Also there is no buy-able sigils aside from the founders pack. Badges are a means of adorning your shoulders of accomplishments; only one badge is sold for premium currency and that would be your clan's own badge. Rest has to be earned. Again, sigils have no comparison point in Dust 514 and are thereby a moot point. In either case, you still know what the hell you are getting in some way, shape, or form when making a purchase or working toward that end, even if it is not directly on your suit. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Platinum is trade-able thus in theory all cosmetics can be eventually obtained. However the things people are willing to pay for and the chances of you getting said items are very RNG like probably worse-so than the crates and even more so the market shifts often so by the time you finally get that one thing; people wont be buying it anymore. Based on the current trade times it may take you 150+ traded items just to get some basic cosmetics and of course there is the work effort in making the trade item appealing like modding a card to full energy; a 1000 core and 2,000,000 credit effort at times. Worst offering from DE? 5 card pack for real money; RNG generally gives you the worst/most worthless cards in the game. We also have no trading system, and thereby this point is also moot. I have also said that this system would not be nearly as bad if we -DID- have a trading system with which I could trade my "Not what I wanted" BPO for the "What I wanted" BPO. Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 596	Posted - 2015.01.28 06:50:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, so now it's terrible to be able to earn free Quafe and Faction gear, just by playing... 1) I hate strongboxes, also there is nothing useful in them and I don't buy AUR, pay to win!!!! 2) Adds amazing stuff to strongboxes 3) Why can't I just buy this stuff directly for AUR in the Market Rattati, how many keys can a player even get during normal play? I occasionally get daily events with one or two keys and ridiculous requirements, but that's about it. Your entire approach to strongboxes is broken. People would be more likely to pay money for them if there was a flow of "just one more. I just want to open one more/that last box", which can't be achieved if boxes are so ***** common and keys are so ***** rare.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9360	Posted - 2015.01.28 06:52:00 - [30] - Quote To be Fair I said in the beginning that I wanted to buy a Stand alone BPO LAV, Arkena and Cat Merc did as well. *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!* *~Democracy will win!*



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