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Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 5148	Posted - 2015.01.28 04:25:00 - [61] - Quote Ooh someone just got hit with some knowledge (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 15908	Posted - 2015.01.28 04:51:00 - [62] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: And asking me the same amarr be damned questions again tommorrow is likely going to net in an answer that hasn't changed. Stop asking me things you know I cannot answer. Stop asking me things you know I don't have the answer for. And finally I would greatly appreciate if people used less flourish in their concerns addressed because when I ask back "what is wrong?" The answers I get back I translate most of those responses to "I DON'T KNOW" and that is by far and large more frustrating. To example this issue: Blind Justice is perfect. Blind Justice is flawed. and I am complaining about it. Alleviate my concerns. And lastly as others said in this thread. CCP Rattati is all but one man. What I wouldn't give for a clone of him. Of course Warlords is not going to stack against Chromosome/Uprising 1.0; thats like asking for 3 Rattati (Rattatium? Rattaties?) at least. The plural is Rattati "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10899	Posted - 2015.01.28 04:58:00 - [63] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Let's be serious here. I never really expected CCP to achieve any more than this in a short time with a team so small that I can fit them into my Honda Accord. Until Dust gets a bigger team, I'm not going to expect any Jesus features anytime soon. You should be happy that this is happening. When I woke up early today I was WOW. I'm glad PC 2.0 is coming >:D I remember making a thread 7 months ago about PC 2.0 and many of the idiots said " Oh don't expect that soon" Well 7 months later... Now Its happening >:D Well, to be honest, 7 months ago we just got started with CCP Rattati and many people including me didn't have that much hope. Looking back, it seems Rattati is the right choice for Dust development. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8018	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:02:00 - [64] - Quote This thread makes my freaggin head hurt. Maybe CCP Rattati needs to release a dev-blog on the amount of people actually working on Dust 514 right now to put kittens into perspective for the people who think that they're capable of shelling out massive updates. I mean, if you ask me, that small team alone has already shelled out more content in the past three builds than 'The Dark Below' expansion for Destiny, but maybe I'm crazy. Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10900	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:04:00 - [65] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: This thread makes my freaggin head hurt. Maybe CCP Rattati needs to release a dev-blog on the amount of people actually working on Dust 514 right now to put kittens into perspective for the people who think that they're capable of shelling out massive updates. I mean, if you ask me, that small team alone has already shelled out more content in the past three builds than 'The Dark Below' expansion for Destiny, but maybe I'm crazy. I don't think you're crazy. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1432	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:05:00 - [66] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: This thread makes my freaggin head hurt. Maybe CCP Rattati needs to release a dev-blog on the amount of people actually working on Dust 514 right now to put kittens into perspective for the people who think that they're capable of shelling out massive updates. I mean we can infer strongly that its only 5 people because of the new officer suits but kittengod Ratatti, please? I've seen more bad ideas on these forums than the US Congress over the last decade.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8018	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:07:00 - [67] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: This thread makes my freaggin head hurt. Maybe CCP Rattati needs to release a dev-blog on the amount of people actually working on Dust 514 right now to put kittens into perspective for the people who think that they're capable of shelling out massive updates. I mean we can infer strongly that its only 5 people because of the new officer suits but kittengod Ratatti, please? Considering that some of the officer dropsuits are named after a team of devs, could even be less than that xD Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1432	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:09:00 - [68] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: This thread makes my freaggin head hurt. Maybe CCP Rattati needs to release a dev-blog on the amount of people actually working on Dust 514 right now to put kittens into perspective for the people who think that they're capable of shelling out massive updates. I mean we can infer strongly that its only 5 people because of the new officer suits but kittengod Ratatti, please? Considering that some of the officer dropsuits are named after a team of devs, could even be less than that xD like, scotsman.....and logibro..... Just wondering out loud here, please dont exile me forum gods, but didnt scotsman leave the company? and Logibro works eve events/pr now..... I've seen more bad ideas on these forums than the US Congress over the last decade.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2981	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:15:00 - [69] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I mean, WarBarges as just a menu item for giving yourself more solo boosts? I thought maybe we might be seeing them as an asset used for PC. Weren't these things supposed to be the size of Orcas and hold an entire Corporation? Now they're just a single-person ship? For the first Expansion of this game, this feels a bit meh. Considering several wondrous bug fixes it has, hell no. If Warlords was just the warbarges, then I might be a wee disappointed, but personally they sound interesting (I just hope to god they are close to being balanced on release)... ... But there were three particular bug fixes which will improve quality-of-life in the game immensely, MCRUs will actually be selectable, no more wasting time loading into an almost-finished-match or even worse a victory screen... ... Best of all... ... GOD DAMN VEHICLES WILL STOP TELEPORTING A METER UPON HITTING THE SELECT SCREEN THUS FIREBALLING AGAINST THE NEAREST OBJECT OR FALLING THROUGH THE BOTTOM OF THE MAP! Oh how much bloody damned isk I've lost through the entire history of dust that way... So yeah, I'm ridiculously happy that these issues have been fixed, these are very important quality of life fixes imo. Add in the rest of the stuff and I'm pretty happy. Second best update yet imo. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8022	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:17:00 - [70] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: This thread makes my freaggin head hurt. Maybe CCP Rattati needs to release a dev-blog on the amount of people actually working on Dust 514 right now to put kittens into perspective for the people who think that they're capable of shelling out massive updates. I mean we can infer strongly that its only 5 people because of the new officer suits but kittengod Ratatti, please? Considering that some of the officer dropsuits are named after a team of devs, could even be less than that xD like, scotsman.....and logibro..... Just wondering out loud here, please dont exile me forum gods, but didnt scotsman leave the company? and Logibro works eve events/pr now..... Pretty much. Foxfour is primarily Eve Online, Wolfman is primarily Project Legion. Logicloop left as well. Nullarbor is back on Eve. Sometimes I think CCP Rattati is the only one on Dust 514 anymore >_>; Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback

Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2981	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:19:00 - [71] - Quote I'm kinda happy wolfman left, iirc he butchered vehicles into the over-simplified mess we have now with the cookie-cutter builds. The current vehicle plan sounds lovely, oh so lovely. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1433	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:21:00 - [72] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I'm kinda happy wolfman left, iirc he butchered vehicles into the over-simplified mess we have now with the cookie-cutter builds. The current vehicle rehaul plan sounds lovely, oh so lovely. I miss heat sinks and resistance mods so much, its kinda disturbing. My poor tank alt hasnt been touched in a month because boooooooooooooooo I've seen more bad ideas on these forums than the US Congress over the last decade.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8026	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:21:00 - [73] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I'm kinda happy wolfman left, iirc he butchered vehicles into the over-simplified mess we have now with the cookie-cutter builds. The current vehicle rehaul plan sounds lovely, oh so lovely. Bearing in mind that Blam was crazy and assumed balance came from implementing functionless features because they sounded cool. Remnant and Wolfman are both producers, not game designers. Rattati thinks like an Engineer, so it works out. There's no real set "criteria" for what makes a good game designer, you either have it or you don't. One thing is for certain though: Having a developer be both a producer -and- a game designer doesn't work very well, based on previous experience with Uprising builds >_>;;; Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
killian178 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 93	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:45:00 - [74] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: To me, anything X 1.0 should be game changing and awesome new stuff, not just some goofy reskins of old stuff and the addition of a new thing that gives you bonuses in matches, but that you will never see in matches. This is basically just Uprising 1.11. I believe your gonna be very disappointed with the world... Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7280	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:46:00 - [75] - Quote I'm actually impressed by how much they did given their limited assets. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Zaria Min Deir 0uter.Heaven 1113	Posted - 2015.01.28 05:49:00 - [76] - Quote Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Iria Gren Liquid Swords 91	Posted - 2015.01.28 08:26:00 - [77] - Quote warlord has every thing i have asked of this game, a commando bpo
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1459	Posted - 2015.01.28 11:15:00 - [78] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its how you go about saying things that is making you so easily ignorable; I am a bit sick and tired of asking what's up and you and like minded individuals splurge and buffet on your own angst Those are strong words. Fortunately they are also accurate words. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1455	Posted - 2015.01.28 11:40:00 - [79] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Warbarges as present in 1.0 are kinda the base of the platform to build on. I'd say Warlords as an expansion is the sum of it's releases. There is a lot more coming. The PC stuff is important to take our time with because as the feedback area has shown, it's a contentious topic that needs time to collect feedback and get it right. There's some exciting crud coming. Quit saying, "we, our, us" as if you are a developer. You got voted in by default. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Duke Noobiam The Dukes of Death 354	Posted - 2015.01.28 12:48:00 - [80] - Quote Not underwhelmed in the least. This small team of developers is putting out a release every month (excluding the Christmas break) since September. Releases include more than simply coding (testing, building the deployment package, QA), This team is putting out new features and fixes at a great pace. Keep up the good work CCP. Rattati, thank your team for us at tomorrow's scrum.

Duke Noobiam The Dukes of Death 354	Posted - 2015.01.28 12:54:00 - [81] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Warbarges as present in 1.0 are kinda the base of the platform to build on. I'd say Warlords as an expansion is the sum of it's releases. There is a lot more coming. The PC stuff is important to take our time with because as the feedback area has shown, it's a contentious topic that needs time to collect feedback and get it right. There's some exciting crud coming. Quit saying, "we, our, us" as if you are a developer. You got voted in by default. He may not be coding, but Ratati has said he communicates with the CPM multiple times a day. He's a part of the team and most importantly the part of the team to which we have the most access. Quit biting the hand that feeds us.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8051	Posted - 2015.01.28 13:16:00 - [82] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Warbarges as present in 1.0 are kinda the base of the platform to build on. I'd say Warlords as an expansion is the sum of it's releases. There is a lot more coming. The PC stuff is important to take our time with because as the feedback area has shown, it's a contentious topic that needs time to collect feedback and get it right. There's some exciting crud coming. Quit saying, "we, our, us" as if you are a developer. You got voted in by default. He may not be coding, but Ratati has said he communicates with the CPM multiple times a day. He's a part of the team and most importantly the part of the team to which we have the most access. Quit biting the hand that feeds us. CPM are on the in-game credits, as well (then again, so are all the employees that got laid off last year and prior). And yeah.. They do feed us buuuut some of those CPM guys like to feed kitten flavored chocolate.. Gotta be careful who you accept treats from, if any. Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 227	Posted - 2015.01.28 14:51:00 - [83] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Warbarges as present in 1.0 are kinda the base of the platform to build on. I'd say Warlords as an expansion is the sum of it's releases. There is a lot more coming. The PC stuff is important to take our time with because as the feedback area has shown, it's a contentious topic that needs time to collect feedback and get it right. There's some exciting crud coming. Here is my feedback, mr CPM. Go talk to CCP and tell them to drop the warbarges until it is a corporate ship used to transport mercs in Eve where one of our pilots controls them. Then tell them to scrap the Free-to-play model and port in to Legion and put the characters on the same subscription model as Eve. Oh and by-the-way, this sucks. I will reserve my stronger wording of my opinion on this matter for my bathroom. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5731	Posted - 2015.01.28 14:59:00 - [84] - Quote For people trying to guess dev numbers from named suits, bear in mind that there have always been a number of devs in Shanghai that have never posted on the forums, and hence who have names that are not public, hence do not have named suits. And of course, as other players pointed out, some named suits may be named after devs no longer working on DUST as well. Unfortunately, suits will not give you any realistic answer about the size of the dev team. DJINN Jecture wrote: Here is my feedback, mr CPM. Go talk to CCP and tell them to drop the warbarges until it is a corporate ship used to transport mercs in Eve where one of our pilots controls them. Then tell them to scrap the Free-to-play model and port in to Legion and put the characters on the same subscription model as Eve. Oh and by-the-way, this sucks. I will reserve my stronger wording of my opinion on this matter for my bathroom. No. :) CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1441	Posted - 2015.01.28 15:08:00 - [85] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: For people trying to guess dev numbers from named suits, bear in mind that there have always been a number of devs in Shanghai that have never posted on the forums, and hence who have names that are not public, hence do not have named suits. And of course, as other players pointed out, some named suits may be named after devs no longer working on DUST as well. Unfortunately, suits will not give you any realistic answer about the size of the dev team. DJINN Jecture wrote: Here is my feedback, mr CPM. Go talk to CCP and tell them to drop the warbarges until it is a corporate ship used to transport mercs in Eve where one of our pilots controls them. Then tell them to scrap the Free-to-play model and port in to Legion and put the characters on the same subscription model as Eve. Oh and by-the-way, this sucks. I will reserve my stronger wording of my opinion on this matter for my bathroom. No. :) Ah damm. Could yooooouuuuu clue us in further than that Soraya? New term: Quitter-vet. Someone who hasn't played for a substantial time but thinks they can solve its problems.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5731	Posted - 2015.01.28 15:21:00 - [86] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Could yooooouuuuu clue us in further than that Soraya? Sadly, no. :( CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1457	Posted - 2015.01.28 15:35:00 - [87] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Warbarges as present in 1.0 are kinda the base of the platform to build on. I'd say Warlords as an expansion is the sum of it's releases. There is a lot more coming. The PC stuff is important to take our time with because as the feedback area has shown, it's a contentious topic that needs time to collect feedback and get it right. There's some exciting crud coming. Quit saying, "we, our, us" as if you are a developer. You got voted in by default. He may not be coding, but Ratati has said he communicates with the CPM multiple times a day. He's a part of the team and most importantly the part of the team to which we have the most access. Quit biting the hand that feeds us. CPM members who actively seek to better the game for themselves does not impress me. You keep thinking he is some type of something if you wish. I know he is in it for only himself. The CPM should be representing the community, not what THEY think should happen. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Vyuru Algintal Core Gallente Federation 72	Posted - 2015.01.28 15:43:00 - [88] - Quote Quote: I think we need to put things into context. At FF 14, Rouge fcked us over. We thought the game was dead, and had no idea what to expect from the future. Legion wasn't even "Green Lit," so even the PC gamers couldn't look forward to it. Then along comes Rattati, making no promises, but arranging the numbers so that the weapons and dropsuits gradually become more and more balanced. We are told not to expect patches, and nothing was ever promised (hence the reason smart people said not to expect anything, contrary to what was said previously in the thread regarding those people). Then we got 1.9, and 1.10. Wow. Suddenly we were getting real updates again! They weren't huge, and nothing massive was really added, but they were certainly larger changes than the hotfixes. And now we are talking about content like warbarges and PC 2.0 that we thought were pipe dreams just a few months ago. The content itself might not be huge an significant, but the fact we are here at all is. I find lots of things that anger me about the game, and have played only once in 3 months or so because of it, but even I can acknowledge and be grateful that positive changes are occurring. Heck, to put it into even more context, Alot of us thought those were pipe dreams back before Dust was officially put on indefinite hold no updates status. The fact that Rattati is making more meaningful* updates with a smaller team than his predecessor speaks volumes to me. I for one, am happy with the updates we have gotten. And I think it's important to mention the meaningful updates again. How many times did we wait several months to get a tweak to weapons or suits, then have to wait another couple of months for another tweak, then another tweak months down the road. Then we get smacked with, "we're so busy making tweaks we can't work on updates" Have we seen Rattati do this? Nope. What we see is Rattati asking players for help in balancing things, let's us know he's working on it, we get our hotfix/balance done, maybe a minor tweak, and a "Oh and by the way, 1.9/1.10 is coming out next week FYI surprise!" Honestly? I'd love to see Rattati in control of Legion.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5733	Posted - 2015.01.28 15:52:00 - [89] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Warbarges as present in 1.0 are kinda the base of the platform to build on. I'd say Warlords as an expansion is the sum of it's releases. There is a lot more coming. The PC stuff is important to take our time with because as the feedback area has shown, it's a contentious topic that needs time to collect feedback and get it right. There's some exciting crud coming. Quit saying, "we, our, us" as if you are a developer. You got voted in by default. By the use of "our" there, I did mean CCP, the CPM, and the playerbase as a sum whole feedback and revision process. Planetary Conquest revamp work cannot be done in a vacuum by CCP. It was important for CCP to get the plan out the door and for players to have a lot of time to make and push changes to it. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5750	Posted - 2015.01.28 16:48:00 - [90] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Warbarges as present in 1.0 are kinda the base of the platform to build on. I'd say Warlords as an expansion is the sum of it's releases. There is a lot more coming. The PC stuff is important to take our time with because as the feedback area has shown, it's a contentious topic that needs time to collect feedback and get it right. There's some exciting crud coming. Quit saying, "we, our, us" as if you are a developer. You got voted in by default. By the use of "our" there, I did mean CCP, the CPM, and the playerbase as a sum whole feedback and revision process. Planetary Conquest revamp work cannot be done in a vacuum by CCP. It was important for CCP to get the plan out the door and for players to have a lot of time to make and push changes to it. I may not like you, but I at least understand the ****** position of being blamed for everything because you aren't authorized to tell us anything about what CCP is actually doing, thus we honestly have no measure of your competence. That being said, if CCP wants this game to be doing more than riding on the occasional AURUM purchases of a group of angry bittervets, they need to really step up the pace on content. I will also say that the Project Legion situation has been hanging up in the air for far too long. You and your fellow CPM members would be well served to hound CCP about telling us SOMETHING about what the Shanghai division is working on. Marketing Team be damned. I think we're all heavily invested enough in this to deserve at least a few tiny scraps of info. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha



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